Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-29 Thread justinaugust
Or you could take the approach that Rob at Ocean Air did. - Nitto Lamp Holder - Handlebar straps wrapped around the lamp holder -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thanks Rod. Yea, I understand that one part gets mounted to the bike, but I don't see anyone selling that half separately. That leaves me with the need to buy two decaleurs at $85 each. Not impossible but a lot more than the $25 VO I was thinking about when I thought about a larger bag.

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-29 Thread Ron Mc
gratuitous bag photos http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP5280013.jpg Versatility is wonderful. The rando bag is great, and I pretty much wear it all winter for stuffing layers. But in the summer, I usually have the small trunksack up front. Here's another

[RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thanks, Steve, Ron, David. The information is very useful. I did not understand how adjustable the Bertoud decaleur was, vs the VO. But the questions just seem to get more complicated instead of less. I have the VO rack with the integrated receiver on the Saluki, but no darn decaleur! It

[RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Mike Schiller
the Berthoud decaleur comes off by just sliding the pin out. Easy peasy. I think they are the best designed on the market. You could have a frame builder make up a fixed position upper mount if you switch the same bag between two bikes. I did that and it was cheaper than buying another

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
RuthWorks SF website: http://ruthworkssf.blogspot.com/p/prices-and-ordering.html On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.comwrote: snip The RuthWorks bag looks nice but without a web site its hard to know. Michael -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Ron Mc
Michael, I think you need to consider the Bertaud decaleur a permanent part of one bike - you really can't easily move the bike side of the decaleur from bike to bike - the bolt that holds it on becomes the handlebar bolt in your stem. .

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/28/2014 02:39 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: Thanks, Steve, Ron, David. The information is very useful. I did not understand how adjustable the Bertoud decaleur was, vs the VO. Yes, the arms pivot through a range of at least several cm. on the Berthoud; the other, male on the bag, female

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/28/2014 02:52 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: the Berthoud decaleur comes off by just sliding the pin out. Easy peasy. I think they are the best designed on the market. The tricky part is inserting the rod, because you have to line up the tubes on the bag with the tubes that are part of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Ron Mc
I've shown this photo before, um, even on this thread - another use of acorn leather washers http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP2050003.jpg Before I put these on, I rattled out an M5 on the first ride. I check tightness on these infrequently but have never

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Ron Mc
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP2050007.jpg better view of the leather washers On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:06:25 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I've shown this photo before, um, even on this thread - another use of acorn leather washers

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Joe Bunik
Tangential q: is there a source for an additional set of Berthoud bag hardware (i.e. just the tubes that mount to the bag)? =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 5/28/14, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP2050007.jpg better view

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/28/2014 04:17 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: Tangential q: is there a source for an additional set of Berthoud bag hardware (i.e. just the tubes that mount to the bag)? I would write Gilles Berthoud if I were looking for that. I wrote him once back in 2005 via the web form with a question and he

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Mike Schiller
I've never used a cotter pin. Stays put without on my bike , even on rocky dirt roads. Inserting the pin has always been very easy, perhaps do to the original alignment. The adjustability of the Berthoud is so it can go on different bikes and bags. This adaptor was designed and made for a

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/28/2014 06:55 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: I've never used a cotter pin. Stays put without on my bike , even on rocky dirt roads. Inserting the pin has always been very easy, perhaps do to the original alignment. YMMV: I've lost the paper clip and had the rod start to back out on its own.

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Mike Schiller
any compentant rackmaker can make something similar. Mine was made by this guy http://matthewscustomcycles.blogspot.com/ On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:04:53 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 05/28/2014 06:55 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: I've never used a cotter pin. Stays put without on my

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Ron Mc
I thought the cheap brass safety pin that came with the Bertaud decaleur was, well, cheap. I'm sure I have the only Inconel 617 spring clip on a Bertaud decaleur https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-izdooxMc1ns/U4ZyI6ItytI/BQ8/e3mEuBew6j0/s1600/aaaP5280002.JPG I borrowed a piece of wire

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Ron Mc
macro of the spring clip - it doesn't come out unless you want it out. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaaP5280003.jpg On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:33:52 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I thought the cheap brass safety pin that came with the Bertaud decaleur was,

[RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Oliver S.
While you might be able to get the off-the-shelf options to work, it can be a fun project to make your own decaleur. There's a DIY decaleur flickr group at: https://www.flickr.com/groups/2215203@N24/ There are probably several others out there too. Mine's

Re: [RBW] Re: Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/28/2014 07:31 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: any compentant rackmaker can make something similar. Mine was made by this guy http://matthewscustomcycles.blogspot.com/ I know of a couple of rack makers who were not frame builders, but they both seem to have left the business. I also know of