[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-22 Thread Jim
To join in Peter M' s point, Rivendell bikes (particularly the Atlantis) have excellent resale, at least in the US. So if you decide to sell the bike later (unlikely) you most likely will get a good part of your investment back without much difficulty. I think what is at risk is $500 to $700

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-21 Thread redsydude
I have no advice but here is an anode to your cathode. My whole life I’ve been a $200 bike person. Last year I owned four of them and I was sick of the clutter so I gathered together one groupset of the best parts, sold or gave away everything else and bought a new Sam Hillborne frameset. I

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-21 Thread Clayton
Hi Emily, I bought my Atlantis new in '99 or so. I have owned many bikes, but my Atlantis is the one bike I will never sell. I love it. I have had 3 back surgeries and is the most comfortable bike I have ridden. I don't own a car, so I ride this bike daily and have hauled 80 lbs or more. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-21 Thread Jim Bronson
Awesome post redsydude I have a bike that I paid like $160 for off of Ebay and probably wasn't worth even that, an old early 80s gas pipe Nishiki. It's what I use when I need to ride somewhere and lock up a bike. I keep thinking I will make some improvements, but then looking at the frame, it's

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-21 Thread Bruce Herbitter
On a club ride last weekend, pal Frank (on a racked and fendered Bilenky) and I (on a racked and fendered Saluki -not far different from an Atlantis) pulled away at 18 - 20 avg from the F85/Roubaix pack, just because we were felling perky. The Saluki feels comfortable, not heavy. (Tires are GB

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-21 Thread Michael
At $4,000 the Atlantis costs $16.60 a month over 20 year period. (4k$) Or, if one opts for a less expensive, but same genre-ed bike: Surly LHT: $5.41 a month over 20 year period. (1300$) If I had the intention of riding the bike for the rest of my life, I'd skip the coffee shop a coupla

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
Go for it! The folks at Riv will steer you well. If you had to sell an organ to raise the money, then that might be a little irresponsible. If you buy the bike but then don't ride it, then you wasted your money. Think of those people who bought 4000 dollar exercise equipment for their New

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Emily! You know you want to buy it ... after all you wrote the Riv fan club to ask if you should. Grin. Didja think we'd talk you out of it? Of course you should buy it. But it is hard to take that leap. I live in Colorado, bought my Hunqapillar without a test ride, site unseen save the

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Chris Chen
I guess it comes down to, $4k on an Atlantis or a bike of such quality is not a waste of money, because you'll have a big smile every time you ride it. But at the same time you don't *need* to spend $4k to have fun on a bicycle, obviously. There are plenty of folks that ride mountain bike

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Peter Morgano
From an investment standpoint Rivendells hold their value well in case you ever need to liquidate. Oh and they are amazing to ride and are beautiful to boot! On Mar 20, 2014 6:11 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: I guess it comes down to, $4k on an Atlantis or a bike of such quality is

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread dougP
Emily: What are you riding now? What about it do you like and what do you dis-like? What would you like it to do or be that it's not? As to the Atlantis, it's a bike you will ride forever provided it meets your needs. I bought mine from Rivendell in early 2003, based on phone calls and

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread hsmitham
Emily, Obviously, we don't know your personal finances, with that aside I agree with Chris there are other fine bicycles out there that will cost far less and do all that you want a bike to do but with less aesthetic beauty like the Surly's. I never thought I'd be able to afford a Rivendell

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread murphyjrfk
Just my two cents I lucked into a used Atlantis a few years ago. Low and behold I sold it (my wife and I were paying for our wedding-needed the money etc). I love my wife but boy do I regret selling it! I have a riv again- albeit not an Atlantis- but a good blue Bleriot that fit the budget! I

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread tdusky
I own an Atlantis along with other fine steel bikes. The Atlantis is a tough stout do anything bike. Everybody has different needs and opinions. I ride a 64cm bike and weigh 205 lbs. Even for touring with 30 or 40 pounds it feels stout. As a bike gets larger it flexes more, frame builders go

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Tom raises a good question. OTOH, while I've no dog in this fight, and just for the record, I recall being impressed a few years ago when a woman listmember -- whom I have no reason to believe was an exceptionally large person -- reported on list that she enjoyed taking 24 mph pulls at the front

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
I've gotta take issue with your belief that a small Atlantis would feel like a boat anchor, Tom. On what do you base that? Seems to me Grant can be trusted to make any bike he produces excellent for it's purposes at any size he produces. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, March 20, 2014

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread tdusky
If the the large Atlantis is a boat anchor I would bet the small is as well. This is just my opinion. As is everyone else making comments here. Tires will also make a huge difference on the feel of the bike. :) Tom On Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:33:29 AM UTC-4, Emily Hutchinson wrote: Hello,

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Hugh Smitham
If your used to Carbon then yeah Steel can feel like an anchor...after riding on steel a while it's just a mind set and that anchor still seems to get from point A to point B with some rose smelling along the way :-) ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Eunice Chang
Emily, I'm going to quote someone who was wiser than me. If it makes you happy and enjoy the rides more, the cost is trivial. If it makes you ride more, that's a bonus. It's more of a quality thing. And if you can afford it, go for it. If you can't, you might want to look for an used Atlantis or

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Patrick Moore
But he is used to steel -- an Atlantis. He is You are We are They are etc. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: If your used to Carbon then yeah Steel can feel like an anchor...after riding on steel a while it's just a mind set and that anchor still

[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread dougP
At 130 pounds the Atlantis will feel like a boat anchor. Not true. My wife weighs less than this and loves the ride of her 47 cm Atlantis. She has ridden enough different bikes in the last 30+ years to have enough experience to make the call. dougP On Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:07:00 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Hugh Smitham
Yes I know that Mr. Moore from querqe it was a tongue in cheek comment. Not the smell the roses part though. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Patrick Moore
OK, I am sometimes too serious myself. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I know that Mr. Moore from querqe it was a tongue in cheek comment. Not the smell the roses part though. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you

Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

2014-03-20 Thread Hugh Smitham
No worries Patrick I too can be to serious, for me humor is necessary I should have a Einstein quote that reads Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving giggle. -- Albert Einstein Though not sure he'd have said that...maybe someone with a bunch of time will look