Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-15 Thread Steven Frederick
Yeah, I've run noodles for years and, since an unfortunate episode with a herniated disc in my neck last summer, find myself wanting to shorten the reach beyond what is possible to accomplish by using a shorter stem. I put a set of short/shallow bars from Soma (HWY 1) on my latest bike and

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-15 Thread Patrick Moore
Would raising them significantly make them work? Don't suppose this hasn't occurred to you, but it does allow me to mention that after replacing the Midge bar on the Fargo with a much narrower but much deeper drop 44 cm B 135, I found that placing the bar about 1 above the saddle -- 2 higher than

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-15 Thread Hugh Smitham
Patrick, Yes, that essentially describes my set up and why my drops feel so good. When I sit up hands on top of the bar I sit fairly upright so I get the best of both. When riding a carbon race bike I could only stand being in the drops for a really brief period. What Steven described would

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-15 Thread Steven Frederick
I did run the drops higher than my saddle for a while right after I recovered enough to get back on my drop-barred bikes but it feels unbalanced to me and puts too much pressure on my hands. Same (hand pressure) problem, plus lack of varied hand-position and back angle options keeps me from using

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-15 Thread Patrick Moore
I forgot to add that, with bars set up as described, 5 miles in the hooks nonstop is no problem, almost indefinitely with the Fargo. I am doing neck stretching exercises recommended by Mark Rosenberg (?) at howtostretch.com, but given that I routinely ride 5 miles or so in the hooks non stop --

[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-13 Thread fulf
Yes, love the drops. I've had them on my Atlantis since day one and have never considered changing. I really enjoyed reading your description, Hugh. I know the feeling you describe. Well done. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-13 Thread Bryan
Hi, Hugh Sounds good. Let me know if you ever have a Sunday off from work and want to ride. Bryan On Monday, August 12, 2013 6:07:34 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Hey Bryan, Thanks I am enjoying the Hilsen. We need to get a ride in soon. I figure you've been busy of late. Best, Hugh

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-13 Thread Ryan
Agreed I've been flirting with the idea of taking off the Nitto Dream bars ...whatever the model# is from my Road and completely switching out to M bars which I use on my other 3 bikes But...the drop bars...especially with those dreamy TRP road levers are the ticket for the longer rides

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-13 Thread hsmitham
Bryan. I have Sunday mornings off I can feasibly start at 8 am do a 20 or 25 miler with some lunch and then split for work. If we met say around Griffith park we could ride some of the LA river trail then loop up to the observatory and down garbage truck back to our cars? I'm also open to

[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread William
I love drops. I have drop bars on all my bikes. I run 'em high on the Bombadil, and run 'em low on my new lightweight rando bike. I run them in between on the other bikes, including my Hilsen. Drops are where it's at, for me. If I ever get around to a Betty Foy build, it also will be with

[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread Bryan
Hi, Hugh I love the drops! Both of my Rivs proudly sport 46 Noodles. I've done the Moustache and Albatross thing (I still have Albatrosses mounted on my old kid-hauling Stumpjumper), but Noodles rule for all my riding needs - commuting, off road, pavement, whatever. Noodles are the only

[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread dougP
Hugh: You've really captured a feeling in your description of you ride. Those times are truly special. As to the bars, I've always been comfortable with drops but occasionally muse on trying an upright bar on my Atlantis. I've tried Moustache bars on another bike couldn't get used to

[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread Joe K
I have always loved the drops, and almost all my adult bikes have had them. I guess it's partly because I came to love biking during the '70s bike boom, and that's how the bikes were set up. So I got comfortable on those. Then I tried some more-or-less Alba-type bars (on a nice Schwinn

[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Great description, Hugh. What you describe is exactly what I felt when I test rode a Homer. I had been thinking Atlantis, Sam or possibly a Hunqa. But the test ride Homer fit perfectly and cajoled me forward. The Atlantis, Sam and Hunqa were all suddenly in 2nd place. Regarding bars... I have

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Hey Bryan, Thanks I am enjoying the Hilsen. We need to get a ride in soon. I figure you've been busy of late. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Bryan bwedg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Hugh I love the drops! Both of my Rivs proudly sport 46 Noodles. I've done the

[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread Evan Spacht
Hugh, Your post made me feel a bit of nostalgia for my 41cm Noodles! I envy your comfort on the Noodles because for me I could never quite find them relaxed. If only I had a longer arms, and didn't have as much of a reach (with even the shortest stem) I'd probably have kept them. I dig the

[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread dougP
Comfort is king. Aero only matters in a headwind or hurry. dougP On Monday, August 12, 2013 6:27:11 PM UTC-7, Evan Spacht wrote: Hugh, Your post made me feel a bit of nostalgia for my 41cm Noodles! I envy your comfort on the Noodles because for me I could never quite find them relaxed.

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
Andy. Thanks for the kind words. As far as bars go if I had the bikes you speak of I'm sure I'd love up right bars on a cargo or strictly city bicycle. I remember considering the Atlantis, Hillborne and Hilsen , the Hilsen obviously won because it promised to carry a medium load but was willing

Re: [RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread cyclotourist
Albas and M-bars are great, but lack that extra position in the drops that I find necessary on longer rides (3 hrs). Yes there are multiple hand positions on those bars, but they're on the same plane, so my arm, neck and shoulder muscles don't get enough change in the ride to be most comfortable.

[RBW] Re: Love the Drops.

2013-08-12 Thread Mike Schiller
no disagreement here... I have 46 cm Noodles on all of my bikes I ride any distance on (well one has Soba's...but it's the same design). Even have a spare set or two sitting in storage for the next bike project. I'm trying upright bars on my new city bike but it just doesn't feel