[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle blogs again!

Hi Joe, Thanks for sharing her new blog. I too have been checking periodically and have always been disappointed that she didn't resurface after she took a break. I'm so glad to see her back, even if tentatively. It was just last week that I had deleted the Lovely Bicycle bookmark from my

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Well I'm not leaving the list. I feel strongly about my position, I just think it was placed in the wrong forum. "White knighting" is the same bollocks as "virtue signaling"..it places the blame on the person who objects to something happening that was wrong. I'm not going to play that game. I

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I think “I should’ve DM’d that guy” is the wrong moral to draw from this story. There was some hilariously inappropriate white knight shit going down across the board, and if that came at me offline, I would post it all publicly and leave the list. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this

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Also, I don't think Chris is a bad guy, I just think he had a thought in the middle of a busy day that maybe needed more editing before Send. I've done it a hundred times so I get it. Internet is an absurdly fast way to express a thought, and sometimes it bites us in the ass. Been there. --

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Yes, I agree I should have gone after this offline. I apologise to everyone for doing it here, and for my language. My presentation is that one should accept when they've screwed up and make amends for it without qualifiers. I screwed up by persuing the argument publicly. That's on me. --

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I both love and hate all of you now. Velouria doesn’t read this list, and none of us deserve an apology on her behalf. Canti-Sams are not my favorite, but I sure wish the new Frank Jones Sr. singlespeeds came in 60, 62, 64 sizes. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because

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In hindsight I propose that others consider attacking or or questioning each other in PM’s. Regarding Canti Sams is there any talk of a 66cm + version for us 100PBH individuals? Or does that shift me back to the AHH vs Sam post. Love this List just not the occasional squabbling over

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Canti-Sams are awesome! Great point! On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 4:24:49 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote: > > So, uh, how 'bout those new canti Sams, guys? > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

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I'm sorry, it just bothers me that we were celebrating Velouria's return and it turned into this ridiculous crap. Now I've got this guy on PM calling me "a sad little man", which is just perfect. Yeah, I'm sad that Velouria might search her blog name and find that some guy was put out because

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Agreed. My brother died suddenly six years ago. I had some people respond similarly to Christopher when I wasn’t able to complete some reviews on the website I wrote for at the time. They subsequently were reprimanded by their bosses and blackballed by some news sites for their behavior (not at

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I'm sick of this stupid new world we live in where truth is whatever we say it is, and a thoughtless comment is just another POV. Sorry, sometimes saying the wrong thing is just wrong. Two years ago my friend - only 38-years-old - was diagnosed with Stage 3B colon cancer. She immediately went

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So, uh, how 'bout those new canti Sams, guys? On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 6:40:25 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I have manfully resisted comment here, but I will add my agreement to > Mark's, with the further addition that perhaps Christopher might have > considered that LB could indeed

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I have manfully resisted comment here, but I will add my agreement to Mark's, with the further addition that perhaps Christopher might have considered that LB could indeed have undergone something traumatic enough to put her off this particular blog in a very sudden manner. But yes, I think that,

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I specifically got into moralizing and passing judgment. I stand by it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I see nothing malicious or offensive in this post, just an opinion about what he would have preferred. In brief: Glad she is doing well. Don't think it was right to stop the blog with no explanation. Free to do what she wants, but appears she could have told us something, since she was in fact

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Dude, you gave the woman shit for not updating you appropriately, using words like "it's not right" and "unnecessary", and you still haven't apologized for it. We've gotten a bunch of claptrap about "I was busy" and "sorry it was taken that way", which is not how apologies work. I've said stuff

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

It is absurd to say or imply that I don’t get it, I am lying, I lack compassion and/ or empathy, that my worry was less than genuine, I am the problem and possibly the reason she walked away from her blog. You know nothing about me. Nothing. That you can’t understand how a post could say

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Honestly, the comments on this post are probably a perfect example of the type of behavior that prompted her to just walk away/ take a break. As a regular visitor to her blog I have a fair idea of possible things that were going on with her, my only concern with the abruptness of the posts

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Christopher Murray wrote:* I did mean that it would have been nice to post something in May or June or whenever just saying she was taking a break. * It may seem weird, but even looking at or thinking about something, never mind taking the energy to write even a short post, can be impossible

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

It's quite clear that something severe happened to the young lady last year,vand whatever that thing was has created a life change she is still coping with (see: "I ride for sport when weather and health permit"). She owes us no explanations. -- You received this message because you are

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Patrick well said, Ahem John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Christopher, it takes guts to examine what you wrote with fresh eyes and then edit your misque to match your intent. Thank you. You may still be missing something, however minor. The noise of a busy life (I find “busy” always an indication I’m putting the wrong thing ahead of the right thing)

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Hi Christopher- I’m glad to see your intent wasn’t to act as if you were owed something. That is heartening. However the impact and the affect was perceived as such. You have to reckon with that. It’s important to understand the difference and the ways in which our intent isn’t important when

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I reread my initial post because I was confused about what was so offensive about it. At that point, I realized it could be interpreted to say something I didn’t mean. So I posted to explain what I meant and what my intentions were. This is the truth. You can believe what you want to believe.

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Your clarification is a rewrite. You said it "wasn't right" that she didn't update, and "unnecessary." I'm sorry, but you can't just erase the original statement - which seemed bizarrely harsh to me - and pretend the current one is what you really meant. You can apologize and revise..that's the

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

To clarify my original post (which upon rereading and reflection is in need of clarification): I did not mean she owed anyone an explanation for her absence. Nor that she had an obligation to share details about herself, situation, or life she did not want to share. I did mean that it would

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I would click like on your post Patrick if it was an option. Glad she is doing okay and will enjoy what ever she chooses to write, though I do enjoy a good hear review. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

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Good for you, Patrick. Beams, indeed. On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 2:02:35 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Uh, lads? If you can’t think of 20 life events her first paragraphs might > refer to, be thankful you’ve not had the challenge and suffering in your > own life to have a clue what

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Thank you, Patrick. It's (literally) painfully obvious that Velouria experienced some sort of trauma last year and is recovering from it. It's none of our business why she was gone, I'm just glad she's doing better. It can happen to anyone at any time. Joe Bernard Novato CA. -- You

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Your self-righteous, smug response proves my point. So I thank you. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Och! Christopher. Me thinks yer looking for injury if “lads” in a cycling group is insulting. We’re all lads and lassies ‘er, aye? As for the rest, your response if better proof of my point, which I’d thought you’d missed, than I could have made meself. I thank you. With abandon, Patrick --

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Patrick, I can guarantee I can think of the life events the first paragraph may refer to. That you imply otherwise is insulting. To use the terms “lads” to imply I/we are young, inexperienced, or have not experienced the extreme challenges life can bring is also insulting. Chris -- You

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Thank you Deacon for adding this. David > On Jan 4, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Uh, lads? If you can’t think of 20 life events her first paragraphs might > refer to, be thankful you’ve not had the challenge and suffering in your own > life to have a clue

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Uh, lads? If you can’t think of 20 life events her first paragraphs might refer to, be thankful you’ve not had the challenge and suffering in your own life to have a clue what she might have experienced. She is excellent with words and tells us all we need to know here, if we but choose to

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Happy to hear she is well but I don’t think it is right to just stop writing with no explanation. She is, of course, free to do as she wishes but not updating for 8 months with no explanation seems unnecessary (especially as she was updating her knitting blog). I have enjoyed her blog over the

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Quite glad she's back, I was afraid I or somebody else had put her off after her last post on geometry, Modern vs. Classic with contentious comments. I reached out to inquire about her wellbeing, but got no reply. If you read her blog frequently you could probably gather that she is a very

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Hi Richard, Yes, it certainly caught my attention that she had been drawn back to film (versus digital). And, yes, that does remind us of people (someone!?) possibly close by. I don't believe it is just nostalgia, but I used to be very interested in photography when younger, with a small

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Bob, Thanks for posting this. Happy to see her back. I missed reading about her riding experiences. Interesting that she says she will be using film in her cameras. Does that sound familiar? Best regards, Richard On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Thanks for the post BOB glad to hear she is back more or less and OK. Also good to hear from an RBW fan from my home town. GHS Clas of '70 here. Marc On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Funny as I just read her blog before jumping over to here. I used to be an avid reader but kind of tapered off with her move to Ireland. Although I continued to read it it just didn’t grab me as before. I, for one, did enjoy her bike and product reviews. She changed her cycling over time and

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Thanks Bob, for the link. That's a gentle update, and a good omen for the new year. I wish her the best. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:04:06 AM UTC-8, Bob Lovejoy wrote: > > Sorry - and glad! - to resurrect this particular post... > > http://lovelybike.blogspot.com

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I do totally agree. The stories, pictures, reports of adventures and discoveries, those were and are the things I really appreciate. I am just so glad to know she is ok, riding her bike, enjoying life even with the seemingly inevitable challenges and surprises that we all face at times. I

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Thanks for sharing. I am glad, cause I really enjoy the writing. I suspect I won't miss the tech/spec posts anyways. I really enjoyed the stories and exploring the various aspects of cycling in her life. On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote: > > Sorry - and

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Sorry - and glad! - to resurrect this particular post... http://lovelybike.blogspot.com An update from Velouria... nothing earth shattering but very real, very grounded, and made me nod in agreement and smile. To a great 2018 for all, Bob L. Galesburg, IL On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Her last tweet was June 1st..nothing dramatic about it. I suspect she just ran out of things to say about bikey stuff after moving so far past the blog's incarnation as the musings of a new cyclist. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Not much information really but this was over on the iBob list... She does post pictures at times on Instagram. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/internet-bob/_G0LT4BHka8/CC7s0VV_BQAJ Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle: Clementine

One thousand miles in two months is pretty impressive for any Clementine. Good work! Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 1:34:46 PM UTC-7, Clementine59 wrote: > > My exactly two month old Clementine reached 1000+ miles today. Terrific > bike! > > > -- You

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle: Clementine

My exactly two month old Clementine reached 1000+ miles today. Terrific bike! On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 12:45:20 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote: > > > http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/09/clementine-belated-befuddled-bedazzled.html#more > > > Tim B: Here's a quote for you "*And when

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle: Clementine

Wally: Thanks for posting. Her post is just the intro! She says she'll do a full review in the future, but toward the end she writes: "I want to meander endlessly. Yet despite this, the bike eats up miles. And I am left with the impression of getting to my destination quickly, without that

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle Blog

Besides having a thing for redheads, I love Veloria's blog. She's smart, a good writer, and humble. There are quit a few bike blogs written by women that touch on the Rivendell world. Look for 'em! On Feb 26, 8:07 pm, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: I've noticed that organzied rides

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle Blog

Interesting blog I especially enjoy her statement about the site being frivolous and entirely self-indulgent. To me, that shows a high level of self awareness. Other bloggers should be so humble. I enjoy her article about why a custom bike. We really don't know how many women follow this

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Me, me, me, pick me, pick me1!! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:15 AM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Interesting blog I especially enjoy her statement about the site being frivolous and entirely self-indulgent. To me, that shows a high level of self awareness. Other bloggers should