Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

2017-02-21 Thread Garth
Ahahahah . . . . . some things are indeed better left unsaid . . . . On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 4:20:22 PM UTC-5, Daniel D. wrote: > > WRONG! I drew a picture in MSpaint to illustrate why you're wrong. But > thought better about posting it. > > On Monday, February 20, 2017 at

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2017-02-21 Thread Daniel D.
WRONG! I drew a picture in MSpaint to illustrate why you're wrong. But thought better about posting it. On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 3:15:00 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote: > > Crotchless would be a skirt. The "manly men" of Scotland wear them on > occasion , and wannabe's.. -- You received

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2017-02-20 Thread Meade Anderson
> > A new first, but not for Grant, crotchless shorts to go with the crotch > cut out on saddles... meade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

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2017-02-20 Thread Garth
Crotchless would be a skirt. The "manly men" of Scotland wear them on occasion , and wannabe's.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2017-02-20 Thread sameness
No kidding. Talk about leaving us hanging! Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 1:17:35 PM UTC-8, Brian Campbell wrote: > > I hear the next batch are crotchlessDoes anyone know when these are > supposed to be ready? > -- You received this message because you

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2017-02-20 Thread Eric Norris
Can’t imagine how this email made it past my PG-rated filters ... --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) > On Feb 20, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: > > I hear the next batch are crotchless. -- You received this message because

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2017-02-20 Thread Brian Campbell
I hear the next batch are crotchlessDoes anyone know when these are supposed to be ready? On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote: > > I wish they went crazy with these. polka dots, fluorescent colors, > mismatched legs, and a rigid belt (replaced all mine) would

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2017-02-19 Thread drew
I'll buy if they can match the gusset to my skin tone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

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2017-02-19 Thread Clayton.sf
I wish they went crazy with these. polka dots, fluorescent colors, mismatched legs, and a rigid belt (replaced all mine) would make me pull the trigger immediately. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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2017-02-18 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a small batch made by people in a country with labor laws. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2017-02-18 Thread Christopher Murray
$70 for a pair of nylon shorts! I know they are great and own several pair of the previous gen but I'm experiencing a bit of sticker shock. I'd love to see a cost break down of materials, labor, design, shipping, etc. I know they are worth the money- please don't think I'm saying otherwise.

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2017-02-18 Thread Patrick Moore
My Yokozunas are spiral striped gray/black. Match that! As for hoaxes: not quite hoaxes, unfortunately, but shurashell better than satire: Trump as president (he *did* keep Hilary "it's my turn now" out of the chair), and driverless cars. What happened to buses and streetcars? My paternal

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2017-02-18 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Which is why I haven't had a black Brooks in almost 25 years. But maybe this will catch on--crotch colorways. You could match the color of your crotch gusset with your cable color... On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 4:49:36 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I have to laugh at the contrasting

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2017-02-18 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Dude, the moon mission was a total hoax! The government filmed it all in a secret bunker in Nevada. (If it really is round, are we always riding uphill, or downhill?) On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > I appreciate the appreciation Mark . > > You know, I

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2017-02-18 Thread Garth
Imagine the in-house furor if Riv had some made in say a grey-green combo , but they arrived with the crotch like a neon color or pink with purple polka dots , oh my On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 4:15:13 PM UTC-5, BenG wrote: > > I love my contrasting crotch, thank you. When those

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2017-02-18 Thread Patrick Moore
I have to laugh at the contrasting crotch furor. Tell y'all what: wear khaki cutoffs in hot, sweaty weather on a black saddle. You'll have a contrasting crotch. I always took it as a "badge of honor." Still, I'd not pay *money* for a startlingly contrasting crotch gusset. On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at

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2017-02-18 Thread Garth
I appreciate the appreciation Mark . You know, I heard today there are many that believe the Earth to be flat certainly not the "norm" ! At first I thought how silly an idea . then I caught myself in my own judge-mentalness. I mean really . . . so what if they believe it ?

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2017-02-18 Thread BenG
I love my contrasting crotch, thank you. When those pairs are clean I go-to. Still have a crotch in my boosa shorts, thanks to the insert. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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2017-02-18 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thank goodness! I will say I was concerned reading your initial response. Here we have the garthness I've come to expect and appreciate. Glad you are back to your "norman" self;^) On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 4:42:33 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > > I am going to retake my take on the color

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2017-02-18 Thread Brian Campbell
True. They are still wrong but true...;-0 On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 3:02:48 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > But others might be ... > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Brian Campbell > wrote: > >> I ordered 2 pair as my guess is that they won't be offered that

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2017-02-17 Thread Tim Butterfield
My preference is for the same colors in tan/tan, grey/grey, blue/blue, or even black/black. But, I caved and ordered two pair of these grey/blue because I have no other MUSA shorts and there is risk a consistent and/or preferred color may not be available in the future. Besides, the grey/blue

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2017-02-17 Thread Garth
I am going to retake my take on the color thing, since "normal" means something different to everyone. I wear my preferred style of pants rolled up below the knee all the time year around. I just happen to ride a bike sometimes too. Since I find 99% of pants, knickers and shorts to be unfit

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2017-02-17 Thread Patrick Moore
But others might be ... On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: > I ordered 2 pair as my guess is that they won't be offered that frequently > going forward. I could care less about colored/non-colored crotch. Whether > seated, standing, riding, running

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2017-02-17 Thread Brian Campbell
I ordered 2 pair as my guess is that they won't be offered that frequently going forward. I could care less about colored/non-colored crotch. Whether seated, standing, riding, running etc., I am not looking at my crotch. On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 12:10:05 PM UTC-5, Shawn Granton

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2017-02-17 Thread Steven Sweedler
On my olive green shorts the belt was elastic and I replaced it with static webbing.Steve On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:20 AM Daniel D. wrote: > They get a pass on the knickers. Even without velcro or reflective > elements, capris aren't considered normal clothes for guys.

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2017-02-17 Thread Shawn Granton
Since the tide seems to be moving towards "no contrasting gusset", I'll put in the contrary vote and say I DO actually like the contrasting color schemes. I have grey/blue and butterscotch/olive. I can see why some don't like it, and I hope that Riv offers some "solid" color schemes. But I do

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2017-02-17 Thread Daniel D.
They get a pass on the knickers. Even without velcro or reflective elements, capris aren't considered normal clothes for guys. Im a fan of knickers and wear them a lot just admitting the truth :p -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

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2017-02-17 Thread Garth
The color thing I too always found to be completely contrary to the whole of idea of wearing "normal" clothes, since of course I have never seen what anyone would consider everyday clothing with such contrasting crotch gussets and other patches. Same with the huge velcro and reflective bands

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2017-02-17 Thread Edwin W
I'll bet they've never heard this contrastive crotch color conundrum before. Someone on the design team thought it was a good idea and it went forward. With this feedback I bet the next batch won't have that! And let's hope there is a next batch. The only "problem" with the MUSA shorts I have

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2017-02-16 Thread drew
I can't imagine anyone really wanting or needing a colored crotch, but it seems like a lot of people really don't want a colored crotch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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2017-02-16 Thread RichS
Other than black Riv has done olive green w/o the contrasting gusset. The latest offering has the boldest color contrast I can recall. Regards, Richard On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 6:54:49 PM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Did RBW ever explain the contrasting color gussets?? I do not

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2017-02-16 Thread John Hawrylak
Did RBW ever explain the contrasting color gussets?? I do not recall seeing something. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 7:09:47 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote: > I agree. I mentioned on another thread I don't use my butterscotch/olive > green MUSA pants very

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2017-02-16 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I agree. I mentioned on another thread I don't use my butterscotch/olive green MUSA pants very often because of this. And every time I went for the black/black they were sold out. For a company that stresses riding in "regular" clothes, this detail is indeed inexplicable. We can get the

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2017-02-14 Thread BSWP
I think the shorter shorts are a good idea, but ugh... I've never liked mesh pockets for shorts, they invariably rip or tear and wear out long before fabric pockets do. I'm tempted, but have to factor in some sewing machine time to replace the pockets. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this

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2017-02-13 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Where is the shorts pre-order!?!?! I can't find it on the Riv site, on the Blug, Grant's blahg or the latest RBW Newsletter. What gives? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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2017-02-13 Thread John Hawrylak
Certainty seems strange. I bought 1 pair of BLACK with the BLACK gusset. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5, drew wrote: > Love musa shorts. Hate the colored gusset thing they keep doing. A Truly > baffling and unnecessary design choice to me. I was