Dear exliontamer, I would agree with both Randy and with Frank about the
two bikes. For a couple of years, I owned a very nice Toyo (2014?)
Atlantis, hardly used when I purchased it. When that proved to be more bike
than I thought I needed, I purchased a new 2015 Sam Hillborne, single top
I have both a Toyo Atlantis and an early Sam Hillborne. I agree that the
Atlantis is pretty stout and I don't notice much flexing, even if pushed
hard. My Sam feels lighter and easier to get up to cruising speed when
riding. I ride them both in the city, light touring, and limited MTB
trails,
I have both a toyo atlantis and i think a 2011 (double top tube,
centermount) hillborne. They are markedly different beasts, atlantis with
clearance for days, 2.2s could fit comfortably, the sam has narrower
chainstays that limit it to 48s with some rubbing on high effort pushes.
Tubing seems
Thanks for the insights. I have a potential trade for another frame I have
but I have a feeling they'd be too similar outside of the slightly lighter
tubing.
On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 8:00:55 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
> The difference would be tubing. Hillborne is a "country bike"
Cannot speak for the Atlantis but I have a Hillborne and think it can be
used on streets, gravel, dirt paths. It can fit 48mm tires without fenders,
a really nice bike with shorter chainstays than Riv is favoring on 90% of
their current bikes. For me that was the decision point.
On Saturday,
The difference would be tubing. Hillborne is a "country bike" not intended
to carry touring loads or bomb around on gnarly trails. Atlantis (that's
one the I owned) is a beefy frame which will take just about anything you
can throw at it.
On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 5:29:30 PM UTC-8
If you compare the two bikes on bike insights, they're almost identical
except the new Sams have more stack.
On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:36:39 PM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote:
> Just curious if anyone has any real world experience with both of these
> bikes, and if so, how similar they
