[RBW] Re: Off pavement riding

2013-10-13 Thread Bartthebikeman
I don't believe there is any penalty at all. Based on my experience on the road I'd be surprised if any tyres at all rolled faster than FF on dirt/gravel... On Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:20:51 AM UTC+1, Patrick Moore wrote: ...Why settle for nasty, skinny 40-somethings when you can ride

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-13 Thread Daniel D.
Dude I've been riding fixed since '83! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-11 Thread numbnuts
On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:33:50 AM UTC-7, ayjaydee wrote: What are your thoughts on this sudden discovery of the pleasures of off-pavement riding by the gravel specific bike manufacturers. It seems to me that they feel they have invented a whole new form of bicycle activity. Well,

[RBW] Re: Off pavement riding

2013-10-11 Thread Patrick Moore
Forgot to say, a propos of Stan's: I've been skinting on the amount I put into the 29er tubes; 2 oz instead of the 6 oz or so I hear Stan recommends for tubeless 29er tires. At any rate, today's ride took me through the usual meadows of goatheads, with thorns momentarily embedded before they are

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread Leslie
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[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread Leslie
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[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread Garth
While more choice of bikes is a good thing ... limiting them to disc brakes is not. To me this just a way to promote disc brakes for road bikes ... lol. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread hsmitham
I think I'm in the camp with Mike S. If it provides more tire options it's a wonderful thing! As far as the race thing goes...I read a thing from our very own Patrick ( Paraphrasing here) that he enjoys watching the BORAF and others but has no desire to actually race or dress like a racer,

Re: [RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread cyclotourist
I wonder why a reputable bike shop couldn't sell MCRBs... AND steel bikes with fat tires? My LBS has a Crosscheck and LHT or two tucked in there amongst all the crabon fibre, and seems to be surviving financially. On 10/10/13, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: I think I'm in the camp with

Re: [RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread hsmitham
No doubt David but then Redlands has a strong off road contingent, Pasadena seems to be race bike and MTB downhill bombing centric. I suspect that people with the means to purchase a Steel lugged in Pasadena and Los Angeles perceive these bikes as either old fashioned or clunky, little do they

Re: [RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread cyclotourist
Pass has a good deal of steel bike appreciation: http://www.velo-retro.com/roseBowlVintRide.html :-) On 10/10/13, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: No doubt David but then Redlands has a strong off road contingent, Pasadena seems to be race bike and MTB downhill bombing centric. I suspect

Re: [RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread Hugh Smitham
Yes they like Steel lugs with skinny tires, I've met some of these fellows and the criticisms can get annoying if your bike is not completely era specific...to each their own :-) Best, ~Hugh On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:57 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Pass has a good deal of

Re: [RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread cyclotourist
My 2001 Rivs are pretty much period correct! On 10/10/13, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Yes they like Steel lugs with skinny tires, I've met some of these fellows and the criticisms can get annoying if your bike is not completely era specific...to each their own :-) Best,

Re: [RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread Hugh Smitham
Yep, but I feel they don't need to be, I had a 90's era Pinarello Montello and it was pretty period with a few exceptions and I got an ear full. I totally appreciate what these guy's do it's fantastic, but I'm just not that into it. I can appreciate those bikes in others hands :-) Best, ~Hugh

Re: [RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread cyclotourist
That's funny. I didn't realize they were so obsessive. Everyone needs a hobby! On 10/10/13, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, but I feel they don't need to be, I had a 90's era Pinarello Montello and it was pretty period with a few exceptions and I got an ear full. I totally

Re: [RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-10 Thread Hugh Smitham
Indeed. Best, ~Hugh On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:48 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: That's funny. I didn't realize they were so obsessive. Everyone needs a hobby! On 10/10/13, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, but I feel they don't need to be, I had a 90's era

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wai... Wha? I could ride my bike off pavement? Gah! I wish I'd known sooner. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:33:50 AM UTC-6, ayjaydee wrote: What are your thoughts on this sudden discovery of the pleasures of off-pavement riding by the gravel specific bike

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread RJM
I think the addition of gravel grinder or cyclocross into the big bike stores will be a welcomed addition to any rider's fleet, but the problem I have with really most of the bigger manufacturers is that they always sell through racing. Cyclocross is a race, gravel grinder is being sold as a

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
I just don't get it or the allure of racing pushing bikes and using racing as a selling point. Seriously. Pushing racing bikes on everybody made as much sense as pushing Formula 1 race cars on everybody, regardless of how they drive, and track racing cleats for everybody, regardless of how

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Rambouilleting Utahn
Take a look at the history of recreational skis, 25 years ago every advanced skier skied on a ski that racing written on it somewhere. Now nobody takes racing skis off of the race course unless they are carving trenches on the groomers. The technology still trickles down to the all mountain

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Garth
The bike biz is always looking for new angles to sell gravel race bikes the latest . Variety is always good ! All that I have seen are disc brake only though. I'd likely have a frame made that can disc or canti or calipers , or at least the latter 2. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Off-pavement riding

2013-10-09 Thread Mike Schiller
I think this is just the big companies trying to catch up with the little guys who've been doing this already... Like Riv or Salsa/Surly/Soma. I'm hoping it will bring out more suitable tires and rims. And, of course this was what mountain biking was all about in the 80's. Rigid steel bikes