[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-29 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Howdy folks. Tim's recollection is very close but I have a couple additions/corrections. The main match guy was Tim Isaac. I believe he started out building under his own name, then worked for Trek in some capacity before starting match. Joe Starck worked for Trek for years before going to Masi

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-29 Thread Allan
If the number starts with 95, you probably have one of the earlier (or earliest) Rivendells sold. I believe that the early (Waterford) Rivendells all used 753 tubing with 531 forks. The 753 tubing used was very heavy, much heavier than the standard 753 of other (racing) frames of the period.

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-28 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:55 PM, JL wrote: There is a handy link through Waterford that details the dating for Waterford built bicycles. - AFAIK Riv's, Herons, etc included. I posted the serial number from my '96 road standard backwards the other day. I re-read it and it is D96059, or the

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-28 Thread periwinklekog
On Jan 27, 6:43 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: JS=Joe Stark, no matter what the year was (I think). Do the Match-built frames include an M in their number? I assume so because it would make sense; my All-Rounder number include AR, a number and M. Beth

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Curt Goodrich built Rivendells for Match. On Jan 28, 10:07 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I believe so.  Who was the match builder and what happened to him? DE On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:36 AM, periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jan 27, 6:43 pm, David Estes

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-28 Thread David Estes
OK, thanks. Thought it was someone in the Riven-verse. Things seem to have turned out ok for him! On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Curt Goodrich built Rivendells for Match. On Jan 28, 10:07 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-27 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Hey John, I don't think JS was building for RBW yet in '95. My definitely-built-by-Joe Road Std. from 1999 has a serial # starting with JS and also JS and the date written on the BB shell after paint. The bikes with the purple 753 tubing decal and 531 forks are all Waterford built AFAIK. The

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-27 Thread Jon Muellner
Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think JS was building for RBW yet in '95.  My definitely-built-by-Joe Road Std. from 1999 has a serial # starting with JS and also JS and the date written on the BB shell after paint.  The bikes with the purple 753 tubing decal and 531 forks

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-27 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Jon Muellner wrote: Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think JS was building for RBW yet in '95. My definitely-built-by-Joe Road Std. from 1999 has a serial # starting with JS and also JS and the date written on the BB shell after paint.

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-27 Thread David Estes
JS=Joe Stark, no matter what the year was (I think). On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Jon Muellner wrote: Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think JS was building for RBW yet in '95. My

[RBW] Re: Older Riv Road dating

2009-01-27 Thread JL
There is a handy link through Waterford that details the dating for Waterford built bicycles. - AFAIK Riv's, Herons, etc included. I posted the serial number from my '96 road standard backwards the other day. I re-read it and it is D96059, or the #59 frame built in April 1996. Check it out.