Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/26/2015 10:57 PM, Meade Anderson wrote: A stretched out old sock (or two) works wonders...can be stretched over the seat, used as a glove for putting a chain back on, loose tools can be dropped into it to keep them together and from rattling. I usually have one with me and always have a

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Jim M.
But what if you have a child in a bike seat? If you turn the bike over, you'll give the kid a concussion. I blame winter storm Juno. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread RJM
Those quarter turn garmin units are so easy to take off and put back on. ;) I still flip though about half the time...the other half I lay the bike down on the side. But I never lay the bike down on the drive side. I learned that after having bent a derailer hangar. On Tuesday,

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Jim Bronson
If you want to lay the bike on the side, having a large saddlebag such as I have on my Custom (Nelson Longflap) also helps because it seems that the bike will balance itself on it's side between the bag, pedals and handlebars holding it up. This approach works better on uneven ground.

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Jim Bronson
I'll flip my bike over any day and twice on Sunday. I just put something under the saddle so it doesn't get scratched up. That being said, many times on brevets someone just holds it while you change the tire, I have done that recently for a fellow Rivendell owner as well. On Tue, Jan 27,

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/27/2015 04:00 PM, Jim M. wrote: But what if you have a child in a bike seat? If you turn the bike over, you'll give the kid a concussion. You'd think you'd notice the presence of the child when you were dismounting... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Tim Gavin
I was gonna say ask the child to hold up the bike while you change the wheel. But, a child small enough to put in a seat on the bike is probably unreliable as a maintenance assistant. :) On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 01/27/2015 04:00 PM, Jim M.

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ha! Thanks, Matt. I'd forgotten that I also do this when using the flip hub on the QB (like you going to my 22). With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Geoffrey
No need to flip a bike IMO On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 6:44:33 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: not me, the only time I've ever flipped my bike has been indoors on the carpet On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 8:07:40 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, y'all flip your bikes upside down

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Richard Rios
When a problem comes along you must flip it...flip it good..da Da Da da dunt dun dun. Now flip good! Devos's advice has always worked for me. but all the other ideas seem good too, as long as the flat gets fixed... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Matt Beebe
When shifting to the big 22t cog on my quickbeam, I do this.Like James, I guess I've been a bike flipper since childhood, but then the other people i know do it this way too. I usually flip it in dirt, leaves, or grass, but sometimes not and don't find that the saddle has scratched much

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
Flipping a bike over makes it much harder and clumsier to remove the rear wheel, which is the only wheel that is pertinent, since if it's the front wheel, it's easy to figure out how to manage the bike without flipping it. I can have a wheel out, and the tube out, before you can finish even

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Ron Mc
not me, the only time I've ever flipped my bike has been indoors on the carpet On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 8:07:40 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, y'all flip your bikes upside down to change a tire? On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:06 PM, BSWP asht...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread EGNolan
I haven't changed a flat of my own for a while...knock on the wood, but when in the city (the bulk of my rides) I use a kickstand + pedal on the curb combo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/8053813850/ Best, Eric On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:49:03 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/27/2015 12:06 PM, Mark Reimer wrote: Find patch of grass or comparable soft ground Flip bike Repair flat Ride On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 10:29:32 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: I think it's safe to say bike-flipping for the average owner of a pretty-nice-bike is not a

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Mark Reimer
Huh? Am I missing something? Who suggested resting your bike on a cell phone?! I flip all my bikes, and they are all very nice. It doesn't hurt anything if you're careful and don't rest your nice leather saddles on something overly abrasive. I never thought it was weird to flip your bike - seems

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/27/2015 12:15 PM, Mark Reimer wrote: Huh? Am I missing something? Who suggested resting your bike on a cell phone?! You are missing all the people who mount their cell phones on top of their stems and use them instead of GPS units or computers for navigation, like this: -- You

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Brian Campbell
A flipped bike can fall over if its windy or on an uneven surface, potentially causing more damage. A bike lying on its non-drive side is already on the ground. On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 12:21:23 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: I've always been a flipper and it only takes about 10

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread John Phillips
Please people, if this method won't work for your bike, or if you can't remember to remove electronics from your handle bars, or if you can't find a good place to flip your bike, just don't flip the bike! No one says you have to do it! Nuff said! It's a good video, and I believe Grant thinks

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Mark Reimer
Yes, what John said, yeesh!! On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:36 AM, John Phillips jphillip...@icloud.com wrote: Please people, if this method won't work for your bike, or if you can't remember to remove electronics from your handle bars, or if you can't find a good place to flip your bike, just

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Joe Bernard
I think it's safe to say bike-flipping for the average owner of a pretty-nice-bike is not a viable option. The folks at Riv have an almost militant disinterest in caring about scratches and whatnot on their beautiful bicycles, but dropping a nice saddle/grips/tape/levers/bars on the ground

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread Mark Reimer
Find patch of grass or comparable soft ground Flip bike Repair flat Ride On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 10:29:32 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: I think it's safe to say bike-flipping for the average owner of a pretty-nice-bike is not a viable option. The folks at Riv have an almost

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-27 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've always been a flipper and it only takes about 10 seconds total to remove and reinstall light and computer. I actually have come to prefer a scuffed up and used bike. Gives it character. I will note that I don't ride expensive leather saddles. That might give me pause. On Monday,

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
Wait, y'all flip your bikes upside down to change a tire? On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:06 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Not if you run M-bars or Albastaches...or anything besides drops with non-aero levers. Just saying... - Andrew, Berkeley On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:49:03 PM

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread Meade Anderson
A stretched out old sock (or two) works wonders...can be stretched over the seat, used as a glove for putting a chain back on, loose tools can be dropped into it to keep them together and from rattling. I usually have one with me and always have a couple for padding with my Bike Friday when

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread BSWP
Not if you run M-bars or Albastaches...or anything besides drops with non-aero levers. Just saying... - Andrew, Berkeley On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:49:03 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Another reason why this is, in my book, a faux pas (sorry Willard!) is- if you're running

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
Oh yes, there is quite the flipper/layer-downer cleavage in the bike community. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:28 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Wow, I've always been a bike flipper. Since long before I heard of Bridgestone. And here yet again, is a Riv Blug telling me, hey,

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Uh, no. I put the world on top of my seat. Phew! That's why I'm so glad I don't have flats! With abandon, Patrick On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 7:07:40 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, y'all flip your bikes upside down to change a tire? -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread James Warren
Wow, I've always been a bike flipper. Since long before I heard of Bridgestone. And here yet again, is a Riv Blug telling me, hey, you're OK. (I actually never knew there was a possible controversy. I've been a bike nerd all this time and haven't known it!) Go P-style and relax. Nice, relaxing

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread Joe Bunik
Another reason why this is, in my book, a faux pas (sorry Willard!) is- if you're running retrogrouch-approved non-aero brakes, you'll put that awful crimp in the cables. A notable example of this crime-in-progress from BITD appears on the cover of Richard's Bicycle Book, IIRC! =- Joe Bunik

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread ascpgh
I keep a round bootlace in my kit, actually tying the waxed canvas wrap for my tools to prevent rattling. If roadside repair is needed, I tie it in a loop and snag something to suspend my bike by the saddle nose with it. Amazing what you'll com e up with and the peculiarity of scale that

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread dougP
Looks like the saddle question has been covered, so don't forget that whatever's on the handlebars (computer, light, bell) will also come into contact with the ground. Any bags need to be shut tight so the contents don't escape (I rarely fasten the flap on my handlebar bag) and water bottles

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread Doug Williams
Every Douglas Adams fan knows that:“A towel, [The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy] says, is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great practical value. You can wrap it around you for warmth as you bound across the cold moons of Jaglan Beta;

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread Doug Williams
Of course, if your bike has a double kickstand (one of mine does), none of this is necessary because you can just leave the bike on the kickstand and change either wheel. If the rear wheel is flat and the rear of the bike is heavily loaded, you might have to toss some stuff on the handlebars to

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
Typical road-side repair: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/14137916598 Road-side repair with option bike repair stand: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8649157039 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:58 PM, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: I keep a round bootlace in my kit, actually

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread stonehog
That's what the kickstand is for. Use it and lean the bike against something. The front wheel and kickstand hold the bike upright at an angle, but give you room to remove the rear tire - that's the one that always gets the flat, right?? Brian Seattle, WA On Monday, January 26, 2015 at

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Always bring a towel. On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 2:58:08 PM UTC-8, RJM wrote: When I get a flat I generally flip the bike but I don't do anything to prevent scratches to the brooks saddle. Once it's scratched, the fear of scratching it goes away. I suppose putting a towel down would

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread Ron Mc
double kickstands are wonderful - whichever wheel is off is automatically up in the air On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:01:45 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Always bring a towel. On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 2:58:08 PM UTC-8, RJM wrote: When I get a flat I generally flip the bike

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread RJM
When I get a flat I generally flip the bike but I don't do anything to prevent scratches to the brooks saddle. Once it's scratched, the fear of scratching it goes away. I suppose putting a towel down would help, or flip it in the grass. On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 4:49:03 PM UTC-6,

RE: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
to flippin' your bike for roadside repair. double kickstands are wonderful - whichever wheel is off is automatically up in the air On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:01:45 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.commailto:cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Always bring a towel. On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 2:58:08 PM UTC

Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread Eric Norris
I carry my tools, tube, etc., rolled up in a piece of canvas. I don’t usually turn the bike upside down, but if I did I would put the canvas on the ground under the seat. Rivendell used to sell canvas squares, but I don’t see them on the web site now. I bought some old canvas mailbags at the

[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

2015-01-26 Thread John Phillips
You're not scratching your saddle, you're creating beausage, the patina of love and use! Or you can strip and spread your shirt down on the ground to spare your loved one any discomfort. Bonus points for each 10 degree drop in wind chill below 32F/0C, extra bonus points if you use your pants!