Re: [RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread Mike
But ultimately, while "real men" fix flats, suffer big miles, ride supple tires, mix goatheads in their cereal, etc RBW Owner's Bunchers tend to "just ride." --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussi

Re: [RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread Mike
On Sunday, January 13, 2013 3:33:44 PM UTC-8, > > > I'd say the chances of riding 600km and not having a flat at all are > pretty good, unless you're using extremely flat-prone tires like > Challenge Parigi Roubaix; and even there I went on average 300 miles > between flats. Nothing else I've e

Re: [RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Unless you are riding in goathead country. But we agree on the essential point: why ride slugs when you can ride greyhounds? On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > I'd say the chances of riding 600km and not having a flat at all are > pretty good > > > > > > > > -- > You rec

Re: [RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2013-01-13 at 16:21 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Think of it this way: A flat is, at most, 15 minutes by the side of > the road for, at worst, several hours of riding. So: several hours of > riding pleasure versus 15 minutes of pain, compared to several hours > of annoyance. > > > Of cou

Re: [RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Actually: "Real men change tubes and apply patches with nary a thought." On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Think of it this way: A flat is, at most, 15 minutes by the side of the > road for, at worst, several hours of riding. So: several hours of riding > pleasure versus 15

Re: [RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Think of it this way: A flat is, at most, 15 minutes by the side of the road for, at worst, several hours of riding. So: several hours of riding pleasure versus 15 minutes of pain, compared to several hours of annoyance. Of course, I ride 60 km, not 600, so what do I know. Only that I am sensitive

[RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread Mike
On Jan 13, 11:47 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Patrick "real men ride supple, light and puncture-prone tires" Moore > > Ha! I don't mind heavy tires. I rode a very cold and rainy 600k a few years ago on 700x32 Schwalbe Marathons and had no flats. I'll concede time on the bike than time replacing a

Re: [RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
A late aside: here in ABQ, roadies use "The System" which includes training on tires lined with old tires from which the bead has been cut. Me, I'd rather fix flats. (I am no initiate, but I think that The System also includes certain arcane dietary methods such as riding without breakfast to burn

Re: [RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
"I'm not sure how they would hold up in goat head country." They hold up as well as anything else; certainly better IME than Paselas, non-Tourguard, which positively sucked in all goatheads from the surrounding 25 sq feet. Even better are the Big Apples, tho' these are of course much heavier. The

[RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread Will
For a fast, light, high volume and surprisingly tough tire, I feel Schwalbe Kojaks should be considered in this conversation. The 700 x 35's are my "bees knees" tire of choice. No reflective sidewall strips though. No tread pattern either. But that just adds to their zing. And while they are "to

[RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread Garth
no these are not a re-done Pasela. Much much heavier and the tpi is different, as mentioned above. if you want a similar tire to the Tour, it would their Crosstown tire. The weights are nearly identical, both 27tpi. I've ridden the Crosstowns (rebranded from Performance Bike) and they felt h

[RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread Tom Bancroft
Judging by the similar weight and looks, probably a Marathon competitor. Maybe try these: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/new-express I have the non-hypertex ones in 650b and they're just like a Pasela. Tom On Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:47:53 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote: > > When I started r

[RBW] Re: Panaracer Tour Tire

2013-01-13 Thread David Banzer
"I wonder if they're just Paselas with a black sidewall and reflective strip?" The casing is 27tpi, and I believe Paselas are 66tpi. Based on that I'd guess they're going to feel different than a Pasela. I'm sure they're worth a try though, price certainly is right. David Chicago -- You recei