Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Patrick, you might also want to take a look at the cycletrucks.com Beavertail for a 20-inch-wheel cargo bike. RBW bought one for the shop last year. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 10:55:03 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Juggling a slew of factors, all boiling down to

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Three out of four peddlers will be peddling Rivendells. Only three out of six riders will be on Rivendells though, as the two wee ones will be on my wife's Bike Friday. But, yes, we'll post pictures when the herd is brought together in its new home. Bike Friday arrives early June. It is a cargo/

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Almost an all-Riv family. We want photos of the fleet when finally acquired. On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Juggling a slew of factors, all boiling down to our cash flow we are now > getting: > > (2) Complete Clementines for our two older daughters > (1) Bike Friday Ha

Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-10 Thread islaysteve
So a guy walks into a bike shop with $1500.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to th

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Will
No dog in this one, but if you have all the pieces, stick with your plan. Build with what you have. You can always cherry-pick/upgrade parts going forward. I'd put the savings into a rack and bag system. A good rack and bag system doubles a bicycle's usefulness. Sadly, my vote for rack-and-bag

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread drew beckmeyer
im not sure that We (the people with extra parts, multiple bikes, deeply held preferences, overthinkers etc.) are really the target market for the complete clems. not to say that i don't understand the frustration of a 700$ ultimatum minus information. im just guessing, but i would imagine ther

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Edwin W
I'm getting one for my boys and am going frame only since I already have albatross bars, stem and brake levers. I will be going 1x8 and have a rear shifter. I'll be going Dynamo, also, which isn't included. I like that headset, bb, and seat post will be included. So it doesn't make much sense f

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I'm not sure a comparison with Rawland is sound. You can read about experiences with Stag (particularly regarding the fork), input from the web, and how that went. Riv is a different buying experience, for sure. If one's on the fence, I'd recommend waiting 'til Clem is available (still many mo

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread David Banzer
I was planning on a frame only from the start, and the build kit option didn't sway me at all. It was kind of weird too, framesets, if they were to be available on their own, were to be priced at $850, but now complete bike will be $1500 and the only option. $1500 - $850 = $650, the current upc

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Reid
I have a 45 cm frame on order for my wife. The "hurry hurry rush rush" decision on the build really bugs me, too. I don't like that at all. However, seeing as how I am not a hands-on "swap parts from here and there for a complete bike" type of guy, I reluctantly went for the pre-order build. I

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Kieran J
I hear you on this. The whole Clem sales apparatus has been pretty unusual as far as retail buying experiences go. I have not ordered one but I might have if one had been large enough for me. It's all a bit seat-of-pants for my liking. $700 is not a crazy amount for a solid and versatile frame

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Garth
As the blug says : Prematurely but out of necessity introducing Clem Smith Jr. and its mother > or sister, Clementine. $850 framesets. We expect them in October, but we > need some of it now. *Preorder Now *. DELIVERY, OCTOBER-NOV. (yeah…) > > *To get the ball rolling…* > *We’ll accept $

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Jim D Massachusetts
I have ordered a frame.While the offer of a complete build at $650 is attractive, I am not happy with being pushed into a quick reply when they have not published the build specs (that I can find). I am sure the parts would be good, but they may not be what I want. In particular, I do not lik

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Bob E
Yes to F/F/BB/HS, and I've also read a 29.8-mm seat post is included with the frame. Does anyone have a list of what specific parts will be used for the complete deliveries? Bob E (awaiting delivery of a 52 Clem frame) On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 10:06:25 AM UTC-4, Norman R wrote: > If yo

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Norman R
If you get "just" the frame, would it come with F/F/BB/HS? On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 7:33:42 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > So I'm in on a 52cm Clementine for my wife, this'll be the first new bike > I've ever bought and now Riv's offer of making it a complete has me > rethinking my 'pu

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

2015-04-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
We're in the same boat with at least two of our Clementines and have decided to pull the trigger on the build. We'd already decided to pull the trigger on the build kits at roughly $600 each, so it's nearly a no-brainer for us. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you ar