Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread ted
Wow Dave, that is a lot. Like 25 or 30 percent slower eh? To put that all down to weight difference would mean like 40 pounds wouldn't it? Is your Gunnar 10s of pounds lighter than your Hunqapillar? I suspect a lot of your difference is down to position on the bike, whats on the bike (i.e. racks

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread David Stein
Ted - My ambivalence starts when a lot of money and time get invested into it. I realize its a long shot to get an exact trade (or close to it, ideally for just a frame and fork trade). Could be worth it in the long run. I'd have to put some thought into it. I do about 33-35 minutes up on the Gun

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
You should check it out. We're similar PBH and I would be on a 48 Hunq. I owned a 54 AHH which I never should have sold (cash crunch at the time). It fit great with Alba bars, and rode like the wind. They never come up in that size used, so get thee hence! -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread ted
Did your brakes have enough range of adjustment for the change from 26" to 650B? I'm actually a bit surprised that you are "noticeably slower on the hunq than on my go fast road bike" going up say Tunnel road. Do you notice the difference just by feel on your own, by timing it, by comparison wi

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread davecstein
Ha! I saw that yesterday. The price is high and I think I'd want a 52, but I may go check it out. I'm actually traveling and it'll be a while before I can check it out but funny timing since I almost never see AHH's for sale Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:43 PM, ted wrote: > > D

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread davecstein
All good questions! I actually have some 650b wheels left over from a Sam I briefly owned and have been running those on the hunq, outfitted with compass 42mm tires. I ran smart sam's on there for a long time and still have them. I'm looking for something lighter that climbs better than the hunq

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread ted
I think his Sam was 650B too, so if he thought his Sam and his Hunqapillar rode the same the wheel size probably doesn't matter to him. On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:19:58 AM UTC-8, RJM wrote: > > Wheel size will make a difference with how the bikes feel. Going from the > Hunq to the Hilse

[RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread ted
Dave, John is right. Drop everything and go look at (and test ride) that bike immediately. It should help clarify your options more than any amount of internet advice. You may go meh, you may catch a case of lust, but either way I bet it helps settle what you want (including what size is best f

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread RJM
Wheel size will make a difference with how the bikes feel. Going from the Hunq to the Hilsen, he will be going from 26" to 650b. That is a change I can usually feel and on the road I think the 650b feels faster. On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:58:17 AM UTC-6, ted wrote: > > dstein, > > If y

[RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread Surlyprof
Dave, Have you seen this one on CL? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/5378131226.html Relatively close to you. Not cheap but appears to be a nice build with low mileage. John On Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 12:26:59 PM UTC-8, dstein wrote: > > I have a year and a half old green Hunqapillar

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread ted
What would he be giving up that wouldn't be worth it? Sounds like you are very familiar with both models, have you owned both? As to "Ebay for some 531 bike or going with a Boulder or Lyon might be more what you are after" it might, or it might not be. Really it depends on what dstein likes. Me

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread ted
dstein, If you think the Hunqapillar and the Sam Hillborne ride the same you will likely think the Sam and the Hilsen ride the same too. As you pointed out Grant has said the Sam and Hilsen are functionally interchangeable, though there are differences between them. I haven't ridden a Hunqapill

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread Clayton.sf
These bikes are all very similar. I don't think switching to an AHH will be a huge Chang and what you give up in return might not be worth it. Ebay for some 531 bike or going with a Boulder or Lyon might be more what you are after. Clayton SF, CA -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-29 Thread David Stein
I actually do have compass tires on there now ;) And that is my fear. I felt the hunq and sam rode the same honestly and since i liked the hunq more i sold the sam. And I've heard the sam and ahh ride the same (grant's words). On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Clayton.sf wrote: > Get some compas

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-28 Thread Clayton.sf
Get some compass tires for your hunq- it will be much faster. If you want really fast, look into skinny flexy tubing or some vintage 531 and compass tires. The AHH likely won't be that huge of an upgrade. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-28 Thread davecstein
I think 2.25", maybe 2.3". I have 2.1 in the rear and 2.25 in the front. Smart sam's. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Zach Duval wrote: > > What's the actual tire clearance for the 48 Hunqs? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Go

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-28 Thread Zach Duval
What's the actual tire clearance for the 48 Hunqs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-28 Thread dstein
Definitely have some interest in people wanting to buy a 48cm Hunq. Anyone have a 52cm AHH they're willing to sell (frame/fork preferred but also open to complete)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-28 Thread David Stein
Shoji, that helps a lot hearing that the AHH is noticeably the 'faster' bike. That is what I'm looking for, something that serves as an errand bike, bike camping bike, and is faster than my hunq on road rides which would be 70% of the rides on it. The Jones plus is unbelievably fantastic, but I ha

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-27 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi, I'm also 5'7" and nearly 81 PBH. I have a 48cm Hunqapillar and 56cm AHH. I love them both! I, too, have been looking at the Jones+. Maybe a future bday present. (Glad I haven't called yet!) The Hunqapillar serves great duty as a kid hauler and grocery getter. It is an occasional mountain bi

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-27 Thread davecstein
I realize that is not a ringing endorsement for the hunq, the bike is fine, the rider was the issue there ;) Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:51 PM, davecst...@gmail.com wrote: > > Yeah I figure it's a long shot, I almost never see used ones pop up ;) > > I got a Jones Plus. I kept

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-27 Thread davecstein
Yeah I figure it's a long shot, I almost never see used ones pop up ;) I got a Jones Plus. I kept crashing on the hunq and looking for a more stable, confident ride on technical single track. Was smitten with all the words on the internet around the jones and after calling and talking to Jeff I

[RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

2015-12-27 Thread ted
Good luck tracking down a used AHH, I think you would really enjoy one. Sort of OT but I am curious what has replaced your Hunqapillar as your main off road ride and what motivated the change. Could you elaborate? On Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 12:26:59 PM UTC-8, dstein wrote: > > I have a year