[RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-08-09 Thread Garth
To conclude the thread, I purchased a Shimano LX M581 rear derailleur for the bike. Wow how modern derailleurs have improved. The spring action is super light, the pulley cage is 2cm. longer than the vintage Deore was,allowing for a 45t capacity, up from the 38t of the Deore. Needless to say,

[RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-29 Thread Garth
Jim, I checked the RD travel with no chain on, and it hits the 28t cog despite the B screw all the way in, at the highest tension. I'm not sure what value the Park Tool idea is though, as on my road bike, the XT RD will hit the 32t cog with the chain off, but with the chain on it's not too

[RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-28 Thread William
I'm going to answer as if Jim might be wrong. That rarely happens, but just in case. :) I'm assuming there are zero lateral movement issues for this derailleur The thing that makes a rear derailleur run on top of your biggest cogs is not directly a capacity issue. It's more of a max cog

[RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-28 Thread Garth
The RD is nearly new. Wear isn't an issue. Maybe it's just not so great. The bike has just been put together, a Bombadil. The SRAM PC-850 chain is new, 114 links, 57 inches long, plus the power link. I used Park's formula for chain length http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=26 With

[RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-28 Thread Garth
As I said though ,pedaling normal you'd never know the pulleys were so close, it was only when I was lubing my chain and pedaling backwards did I notice this. I suspect there is no harm being done, but I'll likely replace it anyways when I can get a new one. This is the first time I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-28 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/28/10 1:18 PM, Garth at garth...@gmail.com wrote: The RD is nearly new. Wear isn't an issue. Maybe it's just not so great. (snipped) The chain doesn't sag at all in the small/small combo. Then, I'd add a link pair (mebbe two) and see what happens. It sounds like it's at the edge of its

[RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-28 Thread Angus
This must be if Jim is wrong day By looking at the picture of the derailleur the upper pivot and upper jockey pulley are in different places. Look at the picture and imagine a shorter chain, it would rotate the cage counter-clockwise, pulling the upper jockey pulley away from the cog. Angus On

Re: [RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-28 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/28/10 6:09 PM, Angus at angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This must be if Jim is wrong day Y'know I'm wrong _every_ day. In fact, I strive to be wrong every day. Somedays I do six wrong things before breakfast... By looking at the picture of the derailleur the upper pivot and upper