[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-13 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 4:56:35 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > > Replies #6 and #7. This one from Crankypants : " *I know a 12t lockring > will work on a non-serrated 2nd position cog as I've been using just that > on a bike for over 12k miles with a 13t cog. I would think the 11t lockring

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-10 Thread Garth
That's very cool Ash. As long as the lockring is tight and pressure applied to squeeze it all together , there's not anymore to it. I found this @bikeforums : https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-mechanics/1105172-first-position-cassette-cog-question.html Replies #6 and #7. This one from Cran

Re: [RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
The specific cassette in question, the 9 speed 12-36, consists of 8 riveted-together sprockets 14 thru 36 and one loose 1st position sprocket.   Can you do without a 1st position sprocket?  Because that's what is being proposed here. It may be simplistic to think this way, but if you didn't nee

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread Ash
Garth, I have wondered about this as well. I never use two outer cogs. With the chainring combo I have, my chain line is always off. When I'm using the large chainring, the chain is toward the left of the center and vice versa. I can't go any smaller on the large chainring. (Campy - 46t is

Re: [RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Quality or whomever I ordered my Miche 15 and 16 outers from forgot about that rule when they sold mine to me; bought them separately, along with collection of appropriate (9 sp and then 10 sp) spacers, all sold separately. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 10:51 AM Garth wrote: > ... > I've since discover

Re: [RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread Patrick Moore
I did miss something, to wit using more of the large cogs with the large ring. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 1:30 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > Perhaps I miss something, but why not just adjust the outer derailleur > throw screw to lock out the 12 t cog? > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:12 AM Matt C. wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Perhaps I miss something, but why not just adjust the outer derailleur throw screw to lock out the 12 t cog? On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:12 AM Matt C. wrote: > Garth, > > It appears that you have eyes and yet cannot see the most practical > solution Steve is offering. > > With a skilled hand and a

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread Garth
Thanks for the Jeremy. From what I've since read the first 2 cogs supposedly lock together into thecassette body with the lockring. Whether or not this is a necessity I'm not so sure of, as I suspect it may have more to do with shifting with indexed shifters and keeping things in a certain o

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread Garth
Matt, As I said,* I was already aware of the other options* Steve listed. This idea of simply rearranging the existing cog and using the existing parts of the cassette, I was curious about and that was all I was inquiring about. Rearranging the cassette as I asked about would allow for one mo

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread lconley
Seems like a massive effort to save six bucks for a new spacer (files work too, just slower). Bet you could get a spacer for little or nothing from a worn out cassette from a bike shop or friend. You also lose the lock ring action of the serrations on the outer face of the outer cog. Laing Coco

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread Matt C.
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[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-09 Thread Matt C.
Garth, It appears that you have eyes and yet cannot see the most practical solution Steve is offering. With a skilled hand and a dremel, you cannot use the smallest cog of a cassette as a spacer. Matt Cook in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-08 Thread Jeremy Till
Well, there's one issue, which is apparent looking at the picture Steve posted. Most (all?) last position cogs don't have splines that go all the way through the cog, they're meant to cap the ends of the splines on the freehub body. You wouldn't be able to slide them farther onto the freehub bod

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-08 Thread dougP
Garth: If that's what you want to do, just give it a try. I don't know of any reason it wouldn't work, and it's certainly a low cost / low risk experiment. I've played "fun with cogs" for years & it's interesting what can be done. dougP On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:28:24 AM UTC-7, Gar

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-08 Thread Garth
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 8/8/19 1:20 PM, Garth wrote: I've already considered all the "ors, ifs and buts" Steve, hence my specific question about using the 12t cog on the other end of the cassette as a spacer(instead of trying to fill the gap with various spacers) and placing the 14t in first position. No addit

[RBW] Re: Rearranging 8/9 Speed Cassette Cogs

2019-08-08 Thread Garth
I've already considered all the "ors, ifs and buts" Steve, hence my specific question about using the 12t cog on the other end of the cassette as a spacer(instead of trying to fill the gap with various spacers) and placing the 14t in first position. No additional purchases. A 14-34/36 7 o