Do you do any kind of restorative yoga (essentially stretching)? I do a
short 20 minute program by and for cyclists and I've found that it greatly
affects my performance on the following day. It seems to clear away the
cumulative effects of multi-day riding ad re-set the legs, so to speak.
Do
Thanks for the info, Nick! Much appreciated!
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The day before a brevet I either take it really slow or "cheat" and drive
part way.
As "Utah" notes, you have a really long commute. Your "1/2" commutes are
not much less than my full commute. I'm not sure that I could commute
every day doing your full commute.
I've cycle-commuted either to
I have never considered myself as being particularly fit or sporty or fast
at anything. My commute is 11 miles round trip and I do it 5 days a week. I
second the go slow thing for a number of reasons - I don't want to get
sweaty, slow feels right for me, I enjoy taking the time out between work
You are doing absolutely nothing wrong Lungimsam !
There is nothing more fatiguing that the idea that there is something I'm
missing out or supposed to or doing wrong. It's only ideas. Blah blah blah
! Just go on your merry way however you go .
Isn't it fun going "slow" ! Without "an
You need to give yourself a lot more credit. Your commute is "long" IMHO.
I commute 10 miles rt and feel good if I ride all 5 days in a week. You
should feel great if you are only able to bike your commute a couple of
days a week. 50 miles per week of commuting is pretty good. Three days
Thanks, Nick! That sounds like something I can do. Sometimes I am dragging on
my commutes and I also wonder how I'll ever be able to pull off a century or
brevet.
Do you not ride the day before brevets to rest up? Or just do the slow commute?
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lungi,
Haven't seen much in this thread about recovery. You can't get stronger
unless you give your muscles lots of low-stress recovery time. If you're
always riding in hard and never letting yourself recover then you're going
to feel fatigued and not get much stronger. To get stronger, you
Yiu might like this book too. Some diet stuff in it, but lots of training
advice too.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1939563089/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1461709661=8-2=SY200_QL40=mark+sisson=1=51eAWZRsR1L=plSrch
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Lately I have been thinking of riding to my body's needs. Letting it tell
me how fast or slow it wants to go while riding. Like recovering while on
the bike. And maybe my fitness will increase over time if I let my body
just ride how it wants on a given day.
Recently I was tired and just
Lynne:
I am so happy you made it through and are ok now.
I never realized how tough Cancer treatment was until my Dad got it. I mean
we all know and have heard, but we really don't know unless it happens to
someone close and we actually see what goes on.
The surgeries, chemo, logistics,
Thanks for this, Rene -- your experience tracks mine to a "T". I'm going to
look up the Maffetone book.
But really, isn't it just common sense? Start out slow, continue until your
base is established, increase as is comfortable? And, for each individual
ride, slow down until you warm the f*** up!
Not riding is as wonderful as riding. Many o day I've gone out even
though I've not felt like it and after about 50 feet, turn right around and
go home ! If feels wonderful , just like I went for a ride and came back
home. I may then do nothing, maybe go for a casual walk and smell
+1 on the "you are overdoing it".
+1 on the Maffetone approach, which I just learned and have been applying
for the past 3 weeks.
+1 for the "listen to your body" and if you don't feel like riding, then
don't. You'll feel like riding again once it's recovered.
I had the same problems you describe
Yes, speed play, aka fartlek in Swedish, is a way to not-train. Once you've
maybe cut back your saddle time a bit and have a fresher outlook, try
gunning it between telephone poles a few times on one ride, then go hard
but in the saddle on few small rollers in the middle of another otherwise
Lynne,
Glad the surgery got all the Cancer.
Lunginsam, There have been much good advice and food for thought. From my
experiences, after a winter of little riding, I begin commuting (on 16
miles round trip) Mondays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays giving me days off in
between. When I have built up
Lynne makes a good point, and diseases like Lyme can be hard to identify
and affect people to all different degrees. Not sure where you are from,
but around here it is sadly an all too common occurrence.
You mention both your rides are drop bar configurations. I might suggest a
bar like the
I agree with ABQ Patrick that maybe you're just overdoing it. Even though
you're not "training" there are some training principles that could work for
you. Doing something during the winter to keep a fitness base might help.
Treadmills and ellipticals (oh the horror!) if you don't like the
Well, I used to do that same distance commute with about the same amount of
climbing (In greater Philadelphia area) and I too would get pretty tired if
I did more that 4 days of consecutive commuting. I was in my late 30's and
early 40's while I did the commute. For me, sleep was the major
I stay off of the mountains -- the Sandias rise to 10K feet from 5K at the
river. The hills I ride fixed are either relatively steep but short -- eg,
in northern Rio Rancho; or long but gradual -- Tramway or my former
commute. But winds -- man, they are as bad as hills!
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at
That is probably a very good rule, and it's one that I, personally, find
*very* hard to obey! Even when I am feeling tired, and go out for just a
short ride, I tend to push -- not that, nowadays, "pushing" results in
great speed. Riders far stronger than I used to tell me, "Slow down!".
Funny,
I forgot to add, re nomads and pastoralists: one reason they were so
healthy, as indeed seems to be the case, is that they were either, as
someone wisely said, "either healthy or dead." The weak simply died young.
We moderns inherit weak genes from generations of modern "recuscitory"
medicine.
On
I have built up a strong aerobic base over the years. Look into Maffetone
to learn how to build up a solid aerobic base.
http://www.amazon.com/Maffetone-Method-Holistic-Low-Stress-Exceptional/dp/0071343318/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1461688806=8-1=maffetone
But a good rule of thumb is to ride so you
Patrick, don't preach, please. Your diet works for you, but it is by no
means universal. Millions of Chinese and Indian coolies do daily hard labor
on rice, wheat, and pulses, with a bit of oil and veg thrown in.
I do agree about processed foods, particularly refined flour and sugar.
No one can
I do push because I like that fast moving feeling of speeding along with
momentum.
But I am not fast at all, and am a weak rider. There aren't many flats in
my area, so its usually effort...coast...effort...coast...slow up...fast
coast down...etc. Usually I only hit 8% grades max around here.
Another thought is are you pushing things too hard effort wise? If you
haven't maintained an aerobic base over the winter, getting that back takes
time and going much slower than you may think.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 9:01:58 AM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
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> Not sure
I sleep fine. I get enough hours each night.
But I do have an occasional night of insomnia where I dont fall asleep at all
the whole night or just get two hours. Maybe twice a year.
@Patrick: but that's a diet. And Grant's book is a diet. No way I could keep
them. I am on a Seefood diet. I am
How about gradually increasing your mileage? Say, start out with 1/2
commute distance at a leisurely pace two days a week (assuming you're on a
5 day workweek). If you feel fine after a couple of weeks, bump that up to
3 days per week, then 5. As you gradually increase weekly distance, don't
Uh oh! A diet thread! Sardonic grin. Actually on topic, as Grant's written
a book on healthy eating (it's not what you may think).
"I don't do diets of any kind as I know I could never keep one. Just being
honest with myself. There is no way."
This is just because no one should diet. We should
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