[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-08 Thread Brian Campbell
This is why I have held on to my 61cm AHH. I fall "in between" sizes and thought of getting a 59cm Roadeo. I had the same conversation with Mark at Riv and decide that there were more similarities than differences so it was not a meaningful change. The e-mail exchange below: Mark, Hi. I

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Speaking of such matters, there's a red 57 on Ebay. A demo that was on the Riv site for a while. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-08 Thread Christopher Murray
I was at RBHQ in 2010 or 2011 and spoke with Kevin about the Rodeo. My recollection is he said the tubing is basically the same on the 59cm and up Rodeos and AHH. I ride smaller bikes so I didn’t pay much attention or think much of it. I’m sure a quick call to Riv would sort this out. Chris

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-07 Thread Paul G
Yes, I had noticed those differences too. Interesting indeed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-07 Thread Reed Kennedy
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Paul G wrote: > From Mark Abele regarding a 61 cm Roadeo: > > True Temp OX Plat tubing in the main triangle > Top Tube: .8 x .5 x .8mm > Down Tube: .8 x .6 x .8mm > Seat Tube: .6 x .8mm > Chainstay: Reynolds Track Fork Blade 1.2mm > Seat Stay: Double taper 12

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-06 Thread Paul G
John, comparisons are difficult because my previous other bikes were standard non OS frames that were a bit smaller. But the 61cm Roadeo doesn't feel noodly at all to me. It's pretty solid on bumpy descents and I'm thankful for that. I wouldn't want it less "solid" feeling when I'm bombing down

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-06 Thread John Hawrylak
I agree, just trying to compare an OS frame with a STD frame John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 6:53:41 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 10/06/2018 06:42 AM, John Hawrylak wrote: > > The OS tubing used on the Roadini would approximately be the same as a > > 1"

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 10/06/2018 06:42 AM, John Hawrylak wrote: The OS tubing used on the Roadini would approximately be the same as a 1" TT of 1.1/0.9/1.1 an a 1-1/8" DT of 1.3/1.0/1.3.  Pretty stout for a frame from the 80's.  Of course, if the frame is large, stoutness helps. That's tubing for a loaded

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-06 Thread John Hawrylak
Paul How does the Roadeo ride and planning compare with your other 61cm frames, not considering the weight?? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 2:31:14 PM UTC-4, Paul G wrote: > > This is an interesting discussion. Based on what I can tell, RBW has not > (ever?)

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-06 Thread John Hawrylak
The OS tubing used on the Roadini would approximately be the same as a 1" TT of 1.1/0.9/1.1 an a 1-1/8" DT of 1.3/1.0/1.3. Pretty stout for a frame from the 80's. Of course, if the frame is large, stoutness helps. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 10:58:58 PM UTC-4,

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-05 Thread jack loudon
"For me it started with the double-TTs on already plenty stout bikes. As a tall and lightweight rider, I've essentially lost interest in their products :-(" I'm with you on this. The Roadini frameset in a medium size was reported to weigh 7.75 lbs. The top tube is said to be .9/.7/.9 and the

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-05 Thread Paul G
>From Mark Abele regarding a 61 cm Roadeo: True Temp OX Plat tubing in the main triangle Top Tube: .8 x .5 x .8mm Down Tube: .8 x .6 x .8mm Seat Tube: .6 x .8mm Chainstay: Reynolds Track Fork Blade 1.2mm Seat Stay: Double taper 12 x 16 x 11mm (OD; not sure of wall thickness) This was in an

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-05 Thread Lum Gim Fong
You could email to ask Grant directly. The only statement I have seen is from Grant in that cyclofiend interview where he said Roadeos are 6/4/6. He didn't mention if anything differed among sizes there. Just that Roadeos are 6/4/6. But if someone has a quote on the fact that bigger sizes are

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-05 Thread Paul G
This is an interesting discussion. Based on what I can tell, RBW has not (ever?) attributed the stoutness of their frames as a contributing factor to how "fast" they are. They mention things like fitness, strength, rider position and comfort as the contributing factors. They have always

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-04 Thread Justin, Oakland
Regardless of anything else it’s this homogeneity - or the perception of it - that typifies the most recent MIT offerings. I wonder how much differently a modern MIT Sam/Homer (merged in the MIT transition) rides than a modern MIT Atlantis/Hunq (merged in the MIT Transition)? Then again - Riv

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-04 Thread Kieran J
That would be a real shame if the Roadeo was stretched and stoutened. There's a strange and increasing homogeneity happening with Rivbikes that has gobbled up nearly all of their models. I don't really understand the point of having half a dozen products that are more or less identical. For

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-04 Thread Patrick Moore
I wholeheartedly agree. Grant, don't stouten up the Roadeo; do that to the Roadini, or let the Roadeo be a special order like the Legolas. Even Rivendell needs one bona fide gofast model. And don't put no stinking rack bosses on it, either. Amen. Patrick Moore, for whom the present Rodeo is the

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Yeah, that sounds like a lugged Roadini to me. They don't need one, the MIT Roadeo should be the exact same lugged bike, just cheaper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

2018-10-04 Thread Mark Schneider
That would be disappointing, the whole point of the Rodeo is to be a faster model in the line-up. Oversized tubing is already stiffer, you don't need a beefier/thicker model, you already have that in AHH. I have a Homer it's great, but it's designed for a different kind of riding than a Rodeo.