Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-28 Thread Joel
I like the3 older better at least my eyes do. On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote: > Joel, > > Attached photos show the seat stay cap (Seat Stay 1) used on pre-2020 Sams > and the current socket style as used on Clems, Homers, Roadinis and now > Sams. > Glad you

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-28 Thread Joel
Rich, I found a leftover 2019 Sam in 51cm, being built up as we speak. I knew this one would fit me well as all of the specs were available and the help you gave me with measurements. I also did not want to wait till October as I want to ride this bike this year as much as I can before the

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-28 Thread RichS
Hi Joel: Changes also include: 1. Socketed seat stays 2. I'm pretty sure another centimeter has been added to the chain stays Interesting that the new small Sams have the 48cm seat tube that was used on the first edition of Sams. Best, Rich in ATL On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 1:40:45 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-27 Thread Joel Stern
Funny, I was told the 51cm had no changes. We will soon find out. On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 11:31 AM Ash wrote: > Riv staff. > > On Saturday, 26 September 2020 at 21:02:10 UTC-7 Joel wrote: > >> Where did you see those figures? Thanks >> >> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 10:28:15 PM UTC-4

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-27 Thread Ash
Riv staff. On Saturday, 26 September 2020 at 21:02:10 UTC-7 Joel wrote: > Where did you see those figures? Thanks > > On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 10:28:15 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote: > >> Oh interesting! The 51 Sam actually shortened by 15mm then, that >> surprises me. >> >> On

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-26 Thread Joel
Where did you see those figures? Thanks On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 10:28:15 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote: > Oh interesting! The 51 Sam actually shortened by 15mm then, that > surprises me. > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:53 PM Ash wrote: > >> If anybody runs into this discussion

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-26 Thread Jason Fuller
Oh interesting! The 51 Sam actually shortened by 15mm then, that surprises me. On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:53 PM Ash wrote: > If anybody runs into this discussion thread and would be interested in top > tube lengths on the new Sams, size 48cm frame has 53cm TT and size 51cm > frame has 55cm top

[RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-26 Thread Ash
If anybody runs into this discussion thread and would be interested in top tube lengths on the new Sams, size 48cm frame has 53cm TT and size 51cm frame has 55cm top tube. These are official numbers. On Friday, 25 September 2020 at 11:35:13 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: > I forgot to add, I swap

[RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-25 Thread Jason Fuller
I forgot to add, I swap between 42mm and 48mm tires on my Sam and I don't notice the difference in standover - I think that is splitting hairs over what's arguably the least important of the fit numbers. I would be surprised if the newest batch of Sams doesn't grow a few mm in the top tube

[RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-25 Thread aeroperf
velomann - Right. And did I level the bike when I measured it, or just do it in the garage? With a friend holding it, or leaning on its kickstand? So many decimal points, so little actual information. One of the reasons I said it should be a fun thread. The other is that Sams seem to have

[RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-24 Thread Jason Fuller
I have an 80.5 pbh roughly (30" inseam pants fit me well) and I can stand over my 51 Sam with comfortable clearance, but no more than necessary. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

2020-09-24 Thread aeroperf
This should be a fun thread. My 2015 Sam 55 Cm has a measured SOH of 830mm with 700x42 Conti SpeedRide tires, unloaded. That is not the max tire. It came from Riv with Conti TourRide 700x48 tires, and if I had not wanted fenders, I could have probably fit something even bigger. It has a