[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-17 Thread jose
Even with puny 35mm Schwalbe Supremes and SKS 45mm fenders, I can get toe strike on my 58cm Atlantis if I try hard enough on start-up. This is because sometimes my (size 12) foot placement on Grip Kings is accidentally too far forward initially on start-up. But its not a major issue for me. Like

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-17 Thread cyclotourist
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:43 PM, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Even with puny 35mm Schwalbe Supremes and SKS 45mm fenders, I can get toe strike on my 58cm Atlantis if I try hard enough on start-up. This is because sometimes my (size 12) foot placement on Grip Kings is accidentally too

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-17 Thread cyclotourist
Such a good looking bike. Black w/ cream is one of my favorite Atlantis colors. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:23 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:43 PM, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Even with puny 35mm Schwalbe Supremes and SKS 45mm fenders, I can

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
And the plot thickens... Thanks! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.comwrote: I have a 58cm Atlantas and I ride 50mm Big Apples and fenders on it. I have about 3/4 of an inch of TCO. But its mostly from the fenders I think. I rode it with the fenders off and

RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Of cyclotourist Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:43 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? And the plot thickens... Thanks! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.commailto:pollencloth...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 58cm

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
4:43 AM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? And the plot thickens... Thanks! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.comwrote: I have a 58cm Atlantas and I ride 50mm Big Apples and fenders on it. I have about 3/4

RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Of cyclotourist Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:01 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? Yeah, that name is a bit of an anachronism. Well, maybe not on this list... :-) I think I shall dub it Big Toe Overlap from this point forward! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: But seriously, if your toe is not attached to the pedal, it will just slip off if it bumps into the fender, correct?  So no issue with TCO if not clipped in? It depends on a number of things: 1. how

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? Yeah, that name is a bit of an anachronism. Well, maybe not on this list... :-) I think I shall dub it Big Toe Overlap from this point forward! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Am I right

RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Frederick, Steve
...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Allingham II, Thomas J Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:22 AM To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? But seriously, if your toe is not attached to the pedal, it will just slip off if it bumps into the fender, correct? So

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread PATRICK MOORE
FWIW, I found that adding (Velo Orange, 35 mm aluminum) fenders to my Motobecane actually helped with TCO, for, though they increased the TCO, obviously, they also provided a smooth, curved surface to deflect the offending toe clip (now, the offending toe, since I've switched back, fickle as I am,

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread CycloFiend
on 2/1/10 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J at thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking that TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe that's why the problem is called toe clip overlap.) Just for

[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-02-01 Thread Mark
If I am understanding your problem, just add knee savers..I put them om every bike I have ever had...why sell an Atlantis? http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/pedalspacers.asp Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread Mark
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[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread Earl Grey
Both shoe (or toe clip) size and frame size would also have to factored in to determine if there is any TCO. Cheers, Gernot On Jan 31, 3:33 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 1/31/10 8:40 AM, Mark at monkeyonabicy...@gmail.com wrote: What is TCO? Toe Clip Overlap AASHTA

[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread Angus
David, 64cm Atlantis, 37x700 tires AND fenders AND 180mm crank arms AND XL toe clips...about 2-3mm of TCO. Looks like I could eliminate it by triming the fender strust shorter. Obviously if you get rid of the fenders OR the 180mm cranks OR the XL toe clips it would probably clear. Thanks for

[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread Frankwurst
I sold my 58 Atlantis because of TCO. I was running Schwalbe Big Apples and XL toe clips though. I went back to a 56 simply because TCO bothers me and I never had it with the 56 previous to the 58. I obviously don't have the brain power to remember it's there so I choose to make riding as thought

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread cyclotourist
Thanks, thanks, thanks for all the feedback. I guess it's not the actual toe clips, but just bashing the tires with your shoes and falling over. This would be on a trail/mountain type of a build. I'm thinking a 61cm or maybe a 58cm. 172.5mm cranks. Nanoraptors/Big Apples. 45/10.5 sized SPD

[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread Mike
Do you have a line on an Atlantis? I saw one very reasonably priced earlier this week on SF Craigslist. --mike On Jan 31, 6:06 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, thanks, thanks for all the feedback.  I guess it's not the actual toe clips, but just bashing the tires with

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread cyclotourist
Idle conjecture... I did see the raw-powdercoat in SF CL if that's what you're talking about. But no, just giving me something to think about... :-) On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have a line on an Atlantis? I saw one very reasonably priced earlier this

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread cyclotourist
Most likely a KM, just hate to give up on an Atlantis (Bombas won't fit me in the 700C size). On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I think your best bet is to either get another Rivendell like the Hunqapillar (sp?) or a Bombadil. Or get a Surly KM or Salsa Fargo,

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Most likely a KM, just hate to give up on an Atlantis (Bombas won't fit me in the 700C size). If you're really looking for an atlantis I'd recommend calling around to all the riv dealers to see if anyone has one

[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread Mike
I've seen some pictures of KMs with drop bars and they look nice. On Jan 31, 7:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Most likely a KM, just hate to give up on an Atlantis (Bombas won't fit me in the 700C size). On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?

2010-01-31 Thread cyclotourist
Seth: It would be used. Mike: Yes, exactly how I would do it! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen some pictures of KMs with drop bars and they look nice. On Jan 31, 7:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Most likely a KM, just hate to