[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread JL
To bring this back around to Riv content: there is something I have been wondering. Don't these older MTB's, have high BBs? One would think that would adversely effect loaded handling. I am wrong in assuming that? Riv touts the benefits of a low BB for improved handling. I don't expect old mtbs

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
My SJ has a very high BB, which makes for good fixed-gear and cornering pedal clearance! On Sep 15, 1:36 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: To bring this back around to Riv content: there is something I have been wondering. Don't these older MTB's, have high BBs? One would think that would

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Marty
Here's a whole world of MTB conversions to sift through for those thinking along these lines. A nice old Rivendell was uploaded recently - anyone here? Mr. Cranky? http://www.flickr.com/groups/1058...@n23/pool/ Cheers, Marty On Sep 15, 9:19 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Rick
Thanks for the photo, Jim, I'm going to try the dirtdrop w/ my '90 rockhopper. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Dan McCuaig
Bottom-bracket-driven handling differences are actually much more noticeable when bikes are *un*loaded. Load up some rear panniers and front low-riders, and you do enough to lower the bike's center of gravity that an early MTB will feel almost as stable as a similarly loaded Riv, certainly when

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread eflayer
when I had mine I took it to Riv and there was quite a stir seeing that old vintage bike. I asked them about the geo and the steering. Grant measured the angles and the trail and to a man, they said one way to improve the steering was to consider a much larger tire or even a LARGER WHEEL. I

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread rinjin
JimT at Hiawatha sold me a fine silver '83 Stumpjumper Sport that has become a good AR for me. Not quite as pretty as an Atlantis and maybe not quite as versatile, but pretty close for my purposes. I've used it with drop bars and fenders and racks, but its current incarnation involves the lovely

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Dan McCuaig
I bought a NOS 1989 (I'm guessing) Rockhopper from the same guy. Was as advertised (although the build quality wasn't great -- it was an early Taiwan frame). It was a nice package -- drivetrain (48-38-28 almost round Biopace in the front, 13-30 seven-speed in the back) and brakes were Mountain LX

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread JoelMatthews
Speaking of which, anyone see this new Cyclofiend Working Bike entry: http://www.cyclofiend.com/working/2009/wb112-cooperdragonette0909.html Not sure if Cooper visits the board here. If so, along with saying what a great bike this turned out to be, I want to point out that the 'Brooks style

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Zac
Hi- Yeah, I'm an admin for the Nub City Wheelsters, MTB converted to touring rig group. My pal Jake converted his old Rockhopper to a loaded touring rig last summer and this group was born out of his experience. Thanks to Jim T. for linking to us. Come one come all! Here's my stumpy, or Nubster

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Zac
Sorry, thanks to Marty for linking to us. On Sep 15, 11:39 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Speaking of which, anyone see this new Cyclofiend Working Bike entry: http://www.cyclofiend.com/working/2009/wb112-cooperdragonette0909.html Not sure if Cooper visits the board here.  If

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread CycloFiend
on 9/14/09 11:36 PM, JL at subfas...@gmail.com wrote: To bring this back around to Riv content: there is something I have been wondering. Don't these older MTB's, have high BBs? One would think that would adversely effect loaded handling. I am wrong in assuming that? Riv touts the benefits of

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Jim G
I had an '85 Stumpy Sport that I built up into an all-rounder: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimg/146591937/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimg/251981201/ The one time I actually rode it off road (fire roads, 2nd photo) it was kinda fun, but it made a pretty poor city bike IMHO. It was quite

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Ken Mattina
Here is my 87 Bianchi Grizzly. I bought it on craigslist from a guy who had been hanging it in his garage for over 20 years. My guess about 20 miles on it. http://picasaweb.google.com/ken.mattina/BianchiSuperGrizzly# On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim G yoj...@gmail.com wrote: I had an

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread EricP
One way to look at it. After a year (or sometimes two) the Stumpjumper geometry would trickle down to the Sport, then Rockhopper, then Hardrock. My circa 1991 Hardrock is pretty close to a 1989 or 1990 Rockhopper. Of course, my Hardrock is totally re-done so it is comparing apples to oranges.

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-15 Thread Beardpapa
Great job, Zac! On Sep 15, 2:04 pm, Zac zac.stan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi- Yeah, I'm an admin for the Nub City Wheelsters, MTB converted to touring rig group. My pal Jake converted his old Rockhopper to a loaded touring rig last summer and this group was born out of his experience. Thanks to

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-14 Thread eflayer
think the one i had recently was more vintage than that one on ebay. mine had the two plate fork crown. the steering geometry on that thing was really whack and not really suited for much of anything. hopefully the one on ebay is later and they upgraded the geo to work better. On Sep 14, 4:02 

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-14 Thread rcnute
I picked this up locally for $225 or so with the goal of making it into something Atlantis-like. Paying more, might as well go Surly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684...@n08/3921989102/sizes/o/ On Sep 14, 5:03 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: think the one i had recently was more

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-14 Thread David Sprunger
I have an '84 Stumpjumper, which is a lugged frame that still boasts the twin-plate fork. According to the Specialized Stumpjumper book, the early frames were made by Toyo. The attention to detail on my frame is impressive. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:02 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-14 Thread cm
I think most old suspension-less mountain bikes make great All Rounders. Most people I run into touring have an old mountain bike converted to All Rounder. I am not too sure about how the geometry changed from the early 80's to about 1997 (when it became almost impossible to get a high quality

[RBW] Re: They say Old Stumpjumpers can make good All-rounders...

2009-09-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
The older Stumpjumpers had slack angles that can seem really whack if you're coming off something more conventional... But once you get the feel for it, you realize that these bikes can roll over just about any reasonable surface without deflecting from a straight line. I use mine mostly in the