[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

2020-08-23 Thread George Millwood
I bought an aluminium Cannondale Touring bike back in '98. It was an ST1000 from memeory. I found it uncomfortable. So I changed the seat, the stem (two or three times), the handlebars (three or four times) , the seat post, the pedals, the tyres, added mudguards (fenders), mudflaps and

[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

2020-08-23 Thread ascpgh
If you narrow from a complicated system a single variable and measure it with a selection of test items, you'll get data. Yes, a rigid frame's seat post, saddle, wheel components and tires will contribute more to "comfort" if you say vertical compliance equals comfort. What about lateral

[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

2020-08-22 Thread Ryan M.
I had a Trek Emonda SL6 (full carbon bike with a bontrager saddle that looked like it would cut you in half and 25mm tires) for a few years and that bike was super comfortable and really fast feeling, especially going uphill. You wouldn't think that bike should have been as comfortable as it

[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

2020-08-22 Thread Ed Carolipio
I don't disagree with what he says but he could have been done in a minute by stating the obvious: the up-and-down movement of your derriere is not driven by the frame material since it turns out double diamond frames are vertically stiff. I'd recommend watching Jeff Jones demonstrate the

[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

2020-08-21 Thread masmojo
That guy in the video is a little annoying, but the information is spot on! (One reason I don't really enjoy the handful of seat post Concept) Old aluminum Cannondale's, Kleins and other Aluminum bikes were VERY stiff and definitely would beat you up even with sloping top tubes and long seat

[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

2020-08-21 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 2:19:25 PM UTC-7 Andrew Turner wrote: > …Hell, if I had the money, the eye for carbon and murdered-out > componentry, and rode bikes for no purpose other than to ride a bike, I > probably would prefer the ride quality of an Open U.P.(P.E.R.) with the > fattest

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

2020-08-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 8/21/20 5:19 PM, Andrew Turner wrote: I like this guy's videos as they're very thorough but not daunting. It's not exactly anything super controversial though. Basically all frames have  close to 0 vertical compliance by themselves before factoring in seatposts, tires, etc. Totally checks

[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

2020-08-21 Thread Andrew Turner
I like this guy's videos as they're very thorough but not daunting. It's not exactly anything super controversial though. Basically all frames have close to 0 vertical compliance by themselves before factoring in seatposts, tires, etc. Totally checks out, frames use the same tech as bridges