[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread happyriding
On May 12, 8:43 pm, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious if anyone has heard anything.  I was surprised to call and find that the Atlantis was no longer available in my size - they did offer to have one made for me though. In what size? And for how much? Thanks. --

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread JoelMatthews
Global economics. The Atlantis is made in Japan. Dollar to Yen has not favored Riv buying and holding a lot of the frames. As a result, Riv is moving more to the Taiwan made frames. The Atlantis is a Riv icon. Otherwise, I suspect Riv would have dropped it. As it is, and as you post, Riv

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread mark
Now that the Atlantis is built by Waterford in Wisconsin, it's probably much easier and cheaper to special order odd sizes. When the Atlantis was built in Japan, the cost of building one odd sized frame, shipping it to the US and getting it through customs would have been prohibitive. mark On

Re: [RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 06:07 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: Global economics. The Atlantis is made in Japan. corrrection, WAS made in Japan, now moved to Waterloo, WI Dollar to Yen has not favored Riv buying and holding a lot of the frames. As a result, Riv is moving more to the Taiwan

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread JoelMatthews
corrrection, WAS made in Japan, now moved to Waterloo, WI Missed that. As Mark says, with production closer by, Riv may have some more flexibility with sizes and add ons. Interesting the way things work sometime. Who would have thought 10 years ago moving production back to the U.S. would

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread Blindrobert
Was looking for a 63/64 - I think the Atlantis used to come in 64. We didn't get too far into the discussion - so I never asked about price. They also suggested a Bombadil, but I don't care for the double tube. On May 13, 3:23 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On May 12, 8:43 pm,

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread doug peterson
The Atlantis sizing chart on an old flyer I have shows 61, 64, 68 in the larger sizes. Since the basic design is timeless, maybe post a wanted to buy see what pops up? dougP On May 13, 2:30 am, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: Was looking for a 63/64 - I think the Atlantis used

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread GeorgeS
Is there any difference (tubing, angles, etc.) between the Japanese Atlantis and the one now being made in Wisconsin? GeorgeS On May 13, 8:42 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: corrrection, WAS made in Japan, now moved to Waterloo, WI Missed that. As Mark says, with production

Re: [RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 13:58 -0700, GeorgeS wrote: Is there any difference (tubing, angles, etc.) between the Japanese Atlantis and the one now being made in Wisconsin? I would imagine the tubing is different - or, at least, a different brand. I doubt the geometry would be changed. -- You

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread William
I assumed this thread was going to be about all the new 4-size models (Hillborne, Hunqapillar, initial Bomba offering), not the 10-size Atlantis. They (RBW) still have the historical Atlantis geo-chart up on the 'Frame Specials' page:

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread Me
Not really knowing for certain... but I am thinking the flux used to braze the frames, well the Japanese frames will have Japanese flux and the Ameri-Consin frames, it'll be American flux. Beware, The Flux. -Scott On May 13, 1:58 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any difference

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread JoelMatthews
I assumed this thread was going to be about all the new 4-size models (Hillborne, Hunqapillar, initial Bomba offering), not the 10-size Atlantis. Good point. The title is somewhat confusing. On May 13, 4:15 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I assumed this thread was going to be about

Re: [RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread Horace
Also, probably using American-sourced acetylene (and oxygen!) to do the brazing. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Not really knowing for certain... but I am thinking the flux used to braze the frames, well the Japanese frames will have Japanese flux and the

Re: [RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 15:38 -0700, Horace wrote: Also, probably using American-sourced acetylene (and oxygen!) to do the brazing. and beer, too, probably -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread happyriding
On May 13, 3:15 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I assumed this thread was going to be about all the new 4-size models (Hillborne, Hunqapillar, initial Bomba offering), not the 10-size Atlantis. They (RBW) still have the historical Atlantis geo-chart up on the 'Frame Specials' page:

[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?

2010-05-13 Thread happyriding
On May 13, 6:19 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On May 13, 3:15 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I assumed this thread was going to be about all the new 4-size models (Hillborne, Hunqapillar, initial Bomba offering), not the 10-size Atlantis. They (RBW) still have the