Garth - WTH? “Girls bike”?! “California cool”? (Sounds like a good thing to me.) “Does not relate” in the heartland? Does not get more heartland than Indianapolis, Lexington, Kalamazoo or Toledo - to name a few of the places where cool people ride Clem L bicycles. You might benefit from reading
Gus / Susie are fillet brazed frames. They’ve mentioned several times how that was a big factor in these frames being so pricey and difficult to produce, which is why they are moving to a different method of joining the tubes with this new iteration.On May 15, 2023, at 6:31 PM, Zac Terrones
I'm thinking this as well. Didn't they say something about the swooptube
being hard to do with lugs? They've only done tig frames with swooptubes
right? Charlie, gus/susie etc.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 12:06:42 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
> My no evidence fantasy guess is if it's a
I agree Laing... I also remember seeing some Riv documentation somewhere
mentioning a 'Lugged Susie' in the works. I'm interested to see the final
details of this model. I'd personally like to fall further towards the
Gus/dedicated mountain bike/off road touring end of the spectrum but the
Well a hardy har-har Clem Ls aren't "girls bikes" any more than Appaloosas
are "boys bikes", the location of the toptube-to-seattube intersection is
part of a frame. Frames don't have gender, they have different stepover
heights.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 10:20:35 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
Well a hardy har har . ! I don't see the Susie and Clem-L as being
anywhere near interchangeable. The Clem-L still looks like a girls bike to
me, the Susie/Gus with the swooptube looks cool. The Gus/Susie also a whole
lot more steering trail than all the other models, and it's unmistakable
My no evidence fantasy guess is if it's a lugged hillibike variation it'll
be something more akin the Hunqapillar but with some updated "riv" quality
of life improvements. Maybe gus like room for rubber and longer wheelbase.
As much as I like swoopy tubes - diamond frames and frame bag capacity
I agree with Joe. There isn't. a huge need for a Susie variant when the
Clem L already kind of covers that.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 1:20:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
> My guess is swooptube. My hope is it leans towards the Gus side of the
> equation with 1-1/8" threadless and heavier
My guess is swooptube. My hope is it leans towards the Gus side of the
equation with 1-1/8" threadless and heavier duty tubes, I feel that the
Susie/Wolbis side was already adequately covered by like 7 different
Rivbikes. I've just started trail riding again (after many years) and may
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