Re: [RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Adam, let us know what you discover when (& if) you loosed the ring. To my eye your picture looks like the thin washer on the lock ring shredded (if there was one - usually is with Shimano in my experience) On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 2:43:33 PM UTC-4 David Hallerman wrote: > I think, Luke, part

Re: [RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

I think, Luke, part of my response was colored by years of reading some fellows -- whether here or other digital bike spaces -- disparage the use of torque wrenches. But even though I didn't mean tough guy by my use of "masculine," I failed when I put it in gender terms. I'm sorry. But

Re: [RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Of course that was an opinion Joe. And because you also noted concern about having "to remove one torqued to that number," I thought it useful to introduce my direct experience with lockrings, measured torque values, and good old Phil grease. Heck, for some reason lately I've been installing

Re: [RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Also my "seems crazy high" is an opinion. I didn't realize I needed to specify "seems to ME" but here we are. On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 9:49:31 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote: > Dave - > > I guess my comment might have led you to believe that I have a tough guy > mechanic attitude which just

Re: [RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Dave - I guess my comment might have led you to believe that I have a tough guy mechanic attitude which just isn’t the case. I have over-torqued lockrings, but it’s easy to back off and the issue of over-torquing isn’t dire like with over-torquing a threaded bb (I always use a torque wrench

Re: [RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

40Nm doesn’t seem crazy high in practice. I regularly use a torque wrench to reach that cassette lockring value. And yet the ring is typically quite easy to take off, with greased threads of course. While most of us have a good feel for the needed tightness of various bike threads, I often prefer

[RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

I just installed one tonight by feel and noted the torque recommended is 40Nm, that seems crazy high. I hope I never have to remove one torqued to that number! On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:25:50 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote: > Also… we don’t use a torque wrench at my shop for cassettes and

[RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Also… we don’t use a torque wrench at my shop for cassettes and tighten by feel. A torque wrench isn’t a must for everything in my experience. On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:24:31 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote: > [image: 30E3AEA4-5CBE-428E-9C34-ECC1F1826857.png]Adam, > > I just purchased the

[RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Thanks everyone, I managed to make time to sort it out (can't stand not to have things riding shape) and the case is closed for now. It came off with a bit of a struggle. There were a few bits of aluminum, which I cleaned off. Everything looks fine, so I re-greased, re-installed and took it a

[RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Agreed with Ian, when it comes to reinstalling my procress is to give it a good extra tug after the clattering "it's tight" sounds start and call it a day. I've tried removing the way-too-tight ones and it ain't pretty! On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-7 Ian A wrote: > I'd be

[RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Looks like your lockring is "lightweight" aluminum. The shards are likely aluminum as the cassette cog is steel. You don't say what your freehub body is. I would remove and inspect the lockring (replace or re-use) and re-tighten to correct torque. On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 11:27:34 AM

[RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Thanks for the thoughts, here's a quick pic. I don't have time to take the wheel off for a

[RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

I'd be inclined to unscrew the lockring now, while the grease is fresh. I've always erred on the side of not tight enough with lockrings because if they do unscrew in use the only thing that has happened for me is the shifting has gone weird. When you unscrew it, just be careful the removal

[RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

Hi Adam, Sorry to hear about the complications. I’m curious to see close-up pictures of the damage. Depending on how much risk you’re comfortable with I think you could take progressively longer rides to make sure everything is OK. In this situation I would remove the parts, inspect,