Re: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 17:25 -0700, Daniel M wrote: Indexing is great when perfectly adjusted; when it gets out of whack I can just go back to friction until I or a shop take the time to adjust it again Mostly all it takes to get indexing working perfectly again is 1/4 turn on the cable

[RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread MichaelH
It never turns out to be that simple for me. I recently had to adjust the Shimano BE indexing on my new tandem. It would either not shift smoothly in the 1-2 position, or the 8-9 position. It took an hour and a half of fiddling to finally get everything right. One issue, for those of us who

Re: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread Gino Zahnd
Just learn how to index 'em yourself. It's easy! http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=64 One of the most liberating feelings ever was when I internalized how to fix/install my derailers. -Gino On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Daniel M dpmay...@hotmail.com wrote: I inquired about getting

RE: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread Frederick, Steve
@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of MichaelH Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:06 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies It never turns out to be that simple for me. I recently had to adjust the Shimano BE indexing on my new

[RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread MichaelH
I don't have any problems setting up derailleurs and friction systems, just the indexing. Steve's remark about turning into the direction that is not working is helpful. I can probably even remember that. Michael On Jun 3, 10:54 am, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Just learn how to index

Re: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread Gino Zahnd
If you follow the Park directions step by step, it's hard to go wrong. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:27 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have any problems setting up derailleurs and friction systems, just the indexing. Steve's remark about turning into the direction that is not

RE: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 11:11 -0400, Frederick, Steve wrote: One issue, for those of us who do this infrequently is that I'm never sure which direction - right or left - that the adjuster needs to be moved. Here's another way to remember it: if it won't downshift quickly or completely (and with

[RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread JoelMatthews
Does anybody have any trouble remembering how to use the barrel adjuster on a brake? For some reason, when I am on the road I am far more likely to get it right than when I have the bicycle at home on the work stand. On Jun 3, 1:49 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu,

[RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread Joe Bernard
I would think a tandem with those lng cables could be a little tougher to keep the indexing straight on. All the comments about how golly, it's no big deal may not apply to you. On Jun 3, 7:06 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: It never turns out to be that simple for me.  I recently had

Re: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 15:20 -0700, Joe Bernard wrote: I would think a tandem with those lng cables could be a little tougher to keep the indexing straight on. All the comments about how golly, it's no big deal may not apply to you. My tandem indexes fine. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm sure it does, sir. My point is it may take a little more fiddling to keep that way if you're not a 'constant index fiddler', which I happen to be. I had a very long recumbent that took more time to get 'right' than my other bikes. On Jun 3, 3:43 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On

Re: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-03 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure it does, sir. My point is it may take a little more fiddling to keep that way if you're not a 'constant index fiddler', which I happen to be. I had a very long recumbent that took more time to get 'right' than my

[RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies

2010-06-02 Thread Daniel M
I inquired about getting Silver shifters with Paul Thumbies less than two months ago and was told it was a less-than-desirable combination, so I had my Hillborne set up with Shimanos instead. Not clear on exactly what changed, but really no complaints about the Shimanos, either. I rode them for