Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

P.S. I've also read on this list about folks who've modded their Rivs with higher offset forks from e.g. Tom Matchak with reportedly satisfactory results, so if there happens to be any overlap in interest with disc brakes... :) On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 1:49:16 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore

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Fair enough. Was thinking more about the longish chainstays, slack STA & lowish BB, (e.g. size-up-able geometry) than of fork offset. On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 1:49:16 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I get a trail of 38 mm; rather lower than that of Rivs, no? > > Otherwise, it looks

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I get a trail of 38 mm; rather lower than that of Rivs, no? Otherwise, it looks very nice. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Matt B. wrote: > For folks interested in a disc-braked rivendell, take a look at the Crust > Romanceur. It's lugged steel, has 1" threaded

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For folks interested in a disc-braked rivendell, take a look at the Crust Romanceur. It's lugged steel, has 1" threaded steerer (bonus in my book), and definitely rivendellian geometry, though perhaps more 90's to mid-2000's riv than current. On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 12:04:28 PM UTC-4,

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I dont think anyone has said they need disc brakes to stop. Most people have bikes with both types of brakes. Its just something different and while not everyone will choose them, they do stop more quickly and easily. Is that a requirement? No. Will some people choose it? Yes. Will some

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Adding my $0.02 I like discs for mud and for "real" MTB applications: - For mud because that is when rims get more chewed up by rim brakes, - For MTB applications because it allows me more easily to run WIDE rims with big fat tires. For Stopping in dirt situation I have generally found caliper

[RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

I sold my Appaloosa partially to cover a big bill, and partially because I mostly ride ebikes now. As Garth referenced, I feel rather strongly that Rivs should be ridden so I moved it along to a nice lady who would ride it. Will I have another Riv eventually? Probably! -- You received this

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On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:04:35 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 06/21/2017 02:56 PM, Philip Kim wrote: > > Good points, I think bikers gotten along just fine with rim brakes > > before disc brakes came along. And I also think that since then, the > > options for the kinds of

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Brakes dont make it more comfortable but those fat tires and wide rims, which aren't available with rim brake compatibility, sure do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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On the topic of rim availability... Has anyone tried using a "disc brake rim" that has a reasonable wall profile and thickness with rim brakes?.. (I think there are enough folks on this list that don't care too much about machined brake tracks that would be fine letting the brake pads and road

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There was a long thread on the 650B group about the continued availability of rim brake 650B, what with the popularity of "27.5" disk-specific rims. I think the final conclusion was "not to worry, they will remain available". On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:28 PM, iamkeith

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On 06/21/2017 02:56 PM, Philip Kim wrote: Good points, I think bikers gotten along just fine with rim brakes before disc brakes came along. And I also think that since then, the options for the kinds of terrain that can be ridden on a bike have really opened up. You can easily bike on

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Good points, I think bikers gotten along just fine with rim brakes before disc brakes came along. And I also think that since then, the options for the kinds of terrain that can be ridden on a bike have really opened up. You can easily bike on sand, snow, rock gardens pretty easily. Of course

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While I understand the surface appeal of swapping out wheels for wildly different tires, I wonder though, what about the handling with such varying sets ? For example, I ask myself.. would I want to ride my Bomba with really fat tires and road tires ? No. And would I want to

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I haven't owned a riv in 5 years. The last one I had was a Bleriot. I really preferred the low-trail front end geometry, and Bleriot was too stout and didn't have enough tire clearance. I have 5 bikes, and might trim down to 3 or 4 one day. All of them use rim brakes and 650b wheels. 42mm

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Funny - to me, the abilty to swap wheel sizes has ALWAYS been the best selling point of disk brakes, but that might be because im primarily a mountain biker. That said, i admittedly swap less than i could, if even at all. I prefer my fat 26" front wheel to the 29er front wheel so much in

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Agree, if that's the only reason for preferring discs, it's a solution in search of a problem. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:39 PM, EasyRider wrote: > Can you describe the wheelsets/swapping you do? I have a disc bike, and with > high-quality tires in the 650b x 40-50mm range,

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Can you describe the wheelsets/swapping you do? I have a disc bike, and with high-quality tires in the 650b x 40-50mm range, I don't anticipate swapping very often, if at all. On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-4, Jeff wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Garth

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Garth wrote: ... > The disc brake mentions have me wondering aloud, what did people do before > disc brakes ? ... They didn't swap wheelsets with different diameters and wildly different width tires in a matter of seconds, or at all, with

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I want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? Plastics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Good points, Garth. One of our heroes (some of us here anyway), Jobst Brandt, likely pedaled hundred and hundreds of miles on gravel wearing tubulars and Campy modulators rather than brakes...as did thousands of hardy TdF riders BITD. But trends do gain momentum, I suppose. It seems to me

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gt; -Original Message- > From: 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch > Sent: Jun 21, 2017 8:09 AM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block > > Love the Allrounder! What size frame? Are the wheels 26"? I don't know > if I've ever

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It seems most people who are selling one have multiple Riv and/or other bikes. I find 2 bikes to be about right, I can after all only ride one bike no matter how many I could possibly own. The disc brake mentions have me wondering aloud, what did people do before disc brakes ? Of course we

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Ditto to all of that. If I streamlined to one bike, this would be it.-Original Message- From: Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> Sent: Jun 21, 2017 8:59 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block I ride my

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I ride my Hunqapillar in all weather and conditions and on steep mountain trails, including bikepacking. I have disk brakes that also happen to be rim breaks. I stop and slow just fine. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:06:43 AM UTC-6, Addison wrote: > > I adore my Riv

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ire width availability. 650B was revived a few years a later.-Original Message- From: 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> Sent: Jun 21, 2017 8:09 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the c

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Love the Allrounder! What size frame? Are the wheels 26"? I don't know if I've ever read that all the Riv Allrounders were 26" but I've assumed they were. On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 9:06:43 AM UTC-5, Addison wrote: > > I adore my Riv Allrounder and all of things I can do with it.

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Selling a Sam (and eventually a hunq), but have an order in for a 650b Atlantis. More of a minimalizing my life decision. Trying to get down to one bike and be satisfied. If I had tons of space, and a slightly better income, I'd have one of each riv model. I still think I'm gonna eventually

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I adore my Riv Allrounder and all of things I can do with it. And Riv continues to make gorgeous bikes of course. But I think the lack of disc brakes hurts them as far as being a practical option, at least in this area Sierras/Reno with our rocky trails. I've done years of "underbiking" but at

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I still have two Rivs in my stable–I recently sold a bike that was more or less a duplicate of another that I ride more often. I’ve also started tending toward riding my Alex Singers more often, particularly now that I have one with a little more beausage. As Grant would likely predict, having

Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

I've kept one Riv in the bike stable (my Rosco v2), but my recent sale of my Hillborne was in favor of a similar style of bike, but one that takes disc brakes, an All-City Space Horse Disc. Previously, when I wanted to add a rougher-stuff bike to my bike stable, oversize tires and, again, disc

[RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

No replacement for me. Mine was to near future stuff in my life not bike-related -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Why so many great Rivs for sale on the list recently? What are folks moving to this riding season and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to