Re: [RBW] June CicLavia Historic Wilshire Blvd.

2013-06-25 Thread cyclotourist
I really wanted to go to this, as I love the CicLAvia events. But it just wasn't in the cards for this one. Next time! Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Another great day in Los Angeles.

Re: [RBW] June CicLavia Historic Wilshire Blvd.

2013-06-25 Thread hsmitham
I actually liked this one a bit more not quite so frenetic less stops and the Architecture was great. We had Indian food from a food truck which was delicious. Your ride looked pretty nice though not a bad trade off :-) ~Hugh On Monday, June 24, 2013 11:17:02 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] June CicLavia Historic Wilshire Blvd.

2013-06-25 Thread cyclotourist
The Wilshire route looked really interesting. A series of unfortunate events kept me away, but I did have a pretty good time close to home! Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:27 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: I actually liked this one a bit more not quite so frenetic less

Re: [RBW] Sugino Triple Cranks on Sam H.

2013-06-25 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
The LBS who built mine insisted on 113 (Shimano) as specified by Sugino for the XD600 triple I used. Chain line and Q work fine for me. I'm pretty sure 110 would be fine too. Jay On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 7:46:07 AM UTC+3, AaronY wrote: So 107 would work as well? I have a gen 1 deep

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Michael Hechmer
Nice looking bike. How do you decide what length stem to use with each bar? Michael On Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:20:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: To compare for fun. I'm getting good at swapping cockpits. Hopefully this will be the last configuration. Keep scrolling and you will see how

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Ron Mc
I like them all, though I admit I like the moustache bars best, because that's what I would want. On Sunday, June 23, 2013 10:20:10 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: To compare for fun. I'm getting good at swapping cockpits. Hopefully this will be the last configuration. Keep scrolling and

Re: [RBW] Sugino Triple Cranks on Sam H.

2013-06-25 Thread Dan McNamara
My Bombadil had a 107 with a Sugino triple - it cleared the stays. With Shimano BBs I believe the difference between a 107 and a 110 is on the non-drive side. Not sure if that holds true for Tange as well. When I rebuilt the bike I swapped in a new Shimano Mtn triple front derailleur and had

[RBW] Albastache bars mounted on my Atlantis.

2013-06-25 Thread clayton
New Abastaches on my Atlantis. I haven't been able to ride yet due to rain, but they feel good with the leaning on the refrigerator with your knee and sitting in the saddle technique. The bar wrap is Brooks leather tape over grab-on foam grips that extend up to the levers. The tape was

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Michael
@Michael: Thanks for asking. I feel like a freak because I see all these Rivbike owners with long stem extensions and here I am on 6 and 7cm stems. Something wrong with me? Ha ha. *The short story:* Pain and comfortable reach dictated stem length. *The long story:* Even though I

[RBW] Re: FS: Nobilette Hand-Built Frame/Fork (Reynolds 853, Lugged, Custom Geometry, 60-62 cm), $1300

2013-06-25 Thread Joshua Finkler
thanks tim, mark is truly commited to his craft and best of all the end result is one heck of a fine riding bike. happily, the nobilette is now spoken for and the next owner is already scheming on an appropriate build! tag/update: SOLD !! -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread cyclotourist
Michael, the bike is beautiful. It's a shame that it's not comfortable for you. It looks like you're doing everything you can, and putting a lot of money into trying to work it out. I think you possibly nailed it when you said the TT was too long though. Just looking at those pics, it appears

Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Patrick Moore
David is right -- the tt seems to be too long if you want to have your bar below saddle. Grant designed the Sam for high bars; I had to raise the bar considerably above saddle height in order to get a comfortable reach, and that made the handling feel off. Even on my Fargo the bar is only 1 above

Re: [RBW] June CicLavia Historic Wilshire Blvd.

2013-06-25 Thread hsmitham
It is a distance from you. ~Hugh On Monday, June 24, 2013 11:31:52 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: The Wilshire route looked really interesting. A series of unfortunate events kept me away, but I did have a pretty good time close to home! Cheers, David On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Michael
@David, The Giant TT is 53cm c-c. My 52 Sam is 55.8cm with a c-c 6 degree slope. 55 Bleriot is 55.5 c-c. with a 2 degree slope, I think. One day I'll try the Bleriot and the Sam set up just like the Giant with drops and see if that works. I wanna do that now with the Bleriot but need to

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Michael
@ Patrick: I have tried what you mention with raising the bars with drops and staches on the Bleriot and Sam and those angles give me low back pain for days. I have found that I have to be at or below saddle height to be comfortable with drop bars. Though if it is a too long reach like the

[RBW] Re: Sugino Triple Cranks on Sam H.

2013-06-25 Thread Garth
I use the XD2 with a 110 and a 107. With the XD2, the 107 gives symmetric arms from the stays. With the 110, the *3mm are all of the non drive side*. It makes no real world difference in riding to me, but if one is a perfectionist, it would bother them. I'm surprised Riv is suggesting a 110

Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread cyclotourist
It's that extra 2.8cm that's doing it. I think you need a smaller frame if you want drops. Cheers, David On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: @ Patrick: I have tried what you mention with raising the bars with drops and staches on the Bleriot and Sam and

Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Tim Gavin
I have a stem with an adjustable angle. Between quill height and angle, I can put the bars pretty much anywhere. Yes, it's uglier than a Nitto. But very versatile. I'm still dialing in the perfect combo on my Rivendell road. Once I get it figured out, I can buy a fixed stem with that

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Soba Handlebars

2013-06-25 Thread Michael Hechmer
Not sure which bar is the Soba. Is that the same as Mark's bar on the riv sight? In any case I have a nearly new 42 cm Marks Bar and another Nitto bar (Model 356) which has a bend about half way between marks Noodles in 44cm. Would be happy to sell either. Michael On Monday, June 24, 2013

[RBW] WTB: Nitto Soba Handlebars

2013-06-25 Thread William
I have an extra set of 46 Sobas. I might be able to part with them, but they are quite wide. Let me know if you want to talk about them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: FS: Sugino Triple, S83 post, Tallux 11cm stem, 46cm Noodles, Marks Rack, lil loafer, etc.

2013-06-25 Thread Marty
Is the stem a 26, or 25.4? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: Albastache bars mounted on my Atlantis.

2013-06-25 Thread Kelly
I can't wait to hear how your riding experience goes. I was looking at them as a more aggressive albatross touring bar .. or combo between the mustache and albatross .. I still think I was hoping for even more back sweep.. maybe 4 inches more than a mustache.. think I've seen them someplace

[RBW] FS: Nitto Noodle, pedals and frame pump

2013-06-25 Thread Brencho
Hello! I have a few parts for sale, all in great shape: 46 cm. Nitto Noodle Bars - $50 MKS Touring Pedals with Powergrips: $40 Topeak Master Blaster Frame Pump - Large (54-59cm frame) - $20 Cheers, Brencho -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: FS: Sugino Triple, S83 post, Tallux 11cm stem, 46cm Noodles, Marks Rack, lil loafer, etc.

2013-06-25 Thread LouisvillePatrick
26! I pulled it right off my AHH. Thanks- On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 3:45:19 PM UTC-4, Marty wrote: Is the stem a 26, or 25.4? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Soba Handlebars

2013-06-25 Thread Leslie
FYI @ Michael: the Soba is a 'light' version of the Noodle; same curves, didn't come in a 48. I had 48 Noodles on my Ram, swapped it down to the 46 Soba. The 48 Noodles are now going onto the cantiRom... @William: I don't need 'em, but I'd almost be tempted to get them to squirrel

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Soba Handlebars

2013-06-25 Thread Stephen S
Sobas were a different version of the Noodles. I believe they were lighter and didn't have the engraved step up that the Noodles have. On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:10:33 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Not sure which bar is the Soba. Is that the same as Mark's bar on the riv sight? In

[RBW] Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread islaysteve
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[RBW] Re: New rig and Sunday afternoon ride

2013-06-25 Thread Ryan
Elegant but rugged. I really like that colour...and the green tape is a really nice touch. Enjoy! Totally agree with you about their exemplary customer service. The queue for my 2001 road was a good deal longer, but the result was well worth the wait. On Monday, June 24, 2013 7:42:59 AM

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread islaysteve
Michael, you're in Elliott city MD, aren't you? You should come try my 51 Bleriot sometime, I'm not too far away. It's set up wi drop bars, not noodles but you could get an idea if the frame is a better size for you. I'm not looking to sell it, just offering a comparison. (Not riding now

Re: [RBW] Sugino Triple Cranks on Sam H.

2013-06-25 Thread Aaron Young
Sounds like I will have to give the 107 a try. The symmetry will be an added bonus, even though I wouldn't be surprised if one of my legs is 3 mm shorter than the other anyway. Asymmetrical stays = tentacular. Asymmetrical legs = also tentacular? Hmmm... -Aaron Young The 'Couve, WA On Tuesday,

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Michael
Hi Steve, Thanks for the kind offer. That would be great. Sounds like fun. I just emailed you. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Johnny Alien
A 51 would be too small I would guess. My PBH puts me into a 52 Sam and a %% Bleriot but I am on the low end so I went with a 53 Bleriot and it was just about perfect for me. Michael seems to be in about the same size boat that I am. I bought a 52 Sam but I also knew that I was going to use

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Johnny Alien
A 51 would be too small I would guess. My PBH puts me into a 52 Sam and a %% Bleriot but I am on the low end so I went with a 53 Bleriot and it was just about perfect for me. Michael seems to be in about the same size boat that I am. I bought a 52 Sam but I also knew that I was going to use

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Johnny Alien
A 51 would be too small I would guess. My PBH puts me into a 52 Sam and a 55 Bleriot but I am on the low end so I went with a 53 Bleriot and it was just about perfect for me. Michael seems to be in about the same size boat that I am. I bought a 52 Sam but I also knew that I was going to use

[RBW] Rivs in (and sitting beside of) the house

2013-06-25 Thread Esteban
Every once in a while, a garage cleaning means these three are leaned up together. I thought this would be the group to appreciate the grouping of Rivs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/9137506765/ While we're at it, what's the nature of this TA chainring that won't take a regular

[RBW] Re: New rig and Sunday afternoon ride

2013-06-25 Thread M D Smith
Very nice All-rounder! I have custom (Curt-built) A/R as well (26 wheels, though) and am pleased as punch with it. How exciting to have a future old friend and traveling companion! I was just looking at my records and I ordered it in January of '03 and it was delivered at the end of July

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Michael
This is the only bad part about buying bikes online. You don't get a chance to test ride them first. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: New rig and Sunday afternoon ride

2013-06-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
I should add that my experience ordering my off the rack Hunqapillar, Grant et al went well above and beyond to help me buy my first bike in 20 years. It's a disconcerting choice to spend that much on a bike when I wasn't sure (due to vertigo) if I would be able to ride it any farther than the

[RBW] Re: Powder Coated S.H. and Dureme 50's

2013-06-25 Thread Michael
What kind of saddlebag is that? Looks like the perfect size I need. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Dave Johnston
Buying a bike in a shop doesn't help much. The stock handlebar height is often too low and you can't experiment with bars. Some shops will flip a stem or adjust spacers but most won't swap stems just for a test ride. Trying to judge ride quality without a dialed in fit may or may not be

Re: [RBW] Re: Powder Coated S.H. and Dureme 50's

2013-06-25 Thread Peter Morgano
Jeff at AMS is a cool cat. He can do a lot of different stuff too. On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of saddlebag is that? Looks like the perfect size I need. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: Rivs in (and sitting beside of) the house

2013-06-25 Thread Stephen S
Is it 1/8th inch instead of 3/32nd? On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:30:15 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: Every once in a while, a garage cleaning means these three are leaned up together. I thought this would be the group to appreciate the grouping of Rivs:

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread Dave Johnston
I'm always surprised by the long stem crowd as well. I have long arms and long torso but I still run 7cm and 8cm stem extension on my several drop bar bikes with the bar at or slightly above the saddle. I have found that raising the stem one cm makes much more difference to providing an

Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread cyclotourist
And *most *shops will steer you toward a MCRB with the bars 4 below the saddle. Cheers, David On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote: Buying a bike in a shop doesn't help much. The stock handlebar height is often too low and you can't experiment with bars.

[RBW] Need 6cm extension 190mm rise stem. Have one to sell/trade?

2013-06-25 Thread Michael
Need one for my Bleriot. Tech Deluxe would work great if you have one to sell/trade. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Rivs in (and sitting beside of) the house

2013-06-25 Thread Michael
Beautiful bikes. That one in the middle looks like your favorite based on the saddle and bartape usage. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Need 6cm extension 190mm rise stem. Have one to sell/trade?

2013-06-25 Thread Peter Morgano
As Garth would say maybe you should get a threadless adaptor and one of these here high rise shorties http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEAMSSX-New-SATORI-stem-40-degree-25-4mm-6cm-160g-Black-/290927932370?pt=US_Stemshash=item43bca7f3d2cheap enough. On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Michael

[RBW] Re: Rivs in (and sitting beside of) the house

2013-06-25 Thread Ron Mc
Nice. Nice. We've already passed garage-cleaning weather here. On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:42:41 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Beautiful bikes. That one in the middle looks like your favorite based on the saddle and bartape usage. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: twine is good stuff

2013-06-25 Thread Ron Mc
maiden voyage today - I had to chase her http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/bike/aP6250002.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Rivs in (and sitting beside of) the house

2013-06-25 Thread Joe K
Esteban, your middle one looks just like mine...frame colors, bar tape and saddle. A nice look, all three really. On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 7:30:15 PM UTC-4, Esteban wrote: Every once in a while, a garage cleaning means these three are leaned up together. I thought this would be the group

[RBW] Re: Seattle to Portland is in 3 weeks.

2013-06-25 Thread rob markwardt
Not sure if I'll be on a Rivendell but I'm going. Two and half weeks to get in shape and figure out where to spend Saturday night! On Monday, June 24, 2013 7:06:33 AM UTC-7, Andy Williams wrote: Yep. I'm in. Andy http://awilliams53.blogspot.com/ On Sunday, June 23, 2013 8:15:11 PM

[RBW] Re: Pics of my Sam with drops, staches, then Albas

2013-06-25 Thread charlie
The Nitto stem can be modified quite easily simply machine or saw it to the same angle and shorten the through bolt but..Nitto sells shorter stems for when you don't want to jack the bars toward heaven. As far as the 2.8 cm difference in top tubes you might want to experiment with using

Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle to Portland is in 3 weeks.

2013-06-25 Thread Eric Norris
Spend it in Portland! Come join me for the double century! Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Jun 25, 2013, at 11:28 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: Not sure if I'll be on a Rivendell but I'm going. Two and half weeks to get in shape