[RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Last year I moved to the top of a really big hill. I didn't think much of 
it at the time, but I'm not the strong rider I was 10 years ago (a long 
story involving less riding as I sank deeper into alcoholism..I'm 10 months 
sober and slowly getting stronger again), and I was talking myself out of a 
lot of rides because I didn't want that climb home.

I recently picked up a used electric bike to see how I liked it, and it has 
increased my time on the bike quite a bit. I still have my Bleriot and 
several other human-power-only bicycles which I still ride, but now I have 
the assisted-pedaling power when I want it. Maybe you could get something 
like that for the 20 mile store rides. 

Joe sometimes a little help is helpful Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:05:08 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

 We moved from beautiful Valencia, CA this summer to 
 less-but-still-beautiful NV. There were paseos that connected everything I 
 loved in Valencia, and I spent many happy miles on my Betty Foy frequenting 
 parks, favorite shopping districts and church. I even had another at-home 
 mom and her 2 kiddos to accompany me. My new home is up on a mountain, and 
 boasts no paseos. There is nothing but homes for miles and miles. It takes 
 20min to get to the store by car. I'm able to bike to school with my boys, 
 but it is only 0.5 mile one way. Church is on school property, so I can 
 bike that same route 6 days per week, but it isn't enough. I miss bike 
 commuting because I love doing useful things on my bike - I don't like to 
 cruise with no place or plan in mind. I miss having another mom on my 
 adventures. I'm the only mother who bikes with her kids to school. There 
 are almost 1,000 students at school and there is one dad (mountain bike 
 with disc brakes) I see bike with his son most days. One mom I see on her 
 cruiser bike once every blue moon. It's lonely. And I don't think we'll be 
 moving again for several years. I have a beautiful Betty Foy that 
 practically begs to be ridden and I just don't get her out enough. I'm 
 grateful for the school commute, I just gotta figure out where else I can 
 go... I would guess some of you guys had times in your life where you had 
 to live in a less-than-bikey community. How did you deal? 

 Thanks, Leah

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[RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread Michael Hechmer
Joe,  I'm glad to hear that you are recovering and riding again.  Didn't I 
buy the Sequoia my wife has been riding from you?  Maybe a decade or so 
ago.  She rode it around town until we bought the tandem... since then she 
mostly wants to ride coupled.

Like you and Leah I live at the bottom of a long hill and at the edge of 
the Green Mountains.  Pat is vertically challenged and never volunteers  to 
take on the mountains.  We also live 2-4 miles down a dirt road which is 
sometimes not very appealing to ride on.

Pat and I love our bike racks.  She especially likes the Saris hitch rack 
which doesn't require lifting a bike overhead, but we will need to buy a 
bar attachment to mount the Betty on it.  The tandem goes on a Yakima roof 
rack which has a swing out arm to ease mounting.  I often drive out to 
pavement or we drive down into the Champlain Valley to ride or over to some 
good back roads on Grand Isle. When I was commuting, Pat would drive me to 
the pavement during mud season.  The Adirondacks, on the other side of Lake 
Champlain offer more modest grades and great shoulders.

My point is don't get discouraged, just get creative.

I also remember fondly riding with my kids and am looking forward to riding 
with my grandchildren, now 3  1.  It turned out to be a great way to keep 
communication channels open as they moved through adolescents.  We would 
ride along chatting.  If the conversation took an adversarial tone we would 
drift apart on the next hill, come back together and start over in a new 
place.

As for riding now,... maybe soon.  We are having a warming trend, from 
minus 22 to minus 5 in just 4 days!

warmth, blessings, and rain for Ca.
Michael

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:14:10 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Last year I moved to the top of a really big hill. I didn't think much of 
 it at the time, but I'm not the strong rider I was 10 years ago (a long 
 story involving less riding as I sank deeper into alcoholism..I'm 10 months 
 sober and slowly getting stronger again), and I was talking myself out of a 
 lot of rides because I didn't want that climb home.

 I recently picked up a used electric bike to see how I liked it, and it 
 has increased my time on the bike quite a bit. I still have my Bleriot and 
 several other human-power-only bicycles which I still ride, but now I have 
 the assisted-pedaling power when I want it. Maybe you could get something 
 like that for the 20 mile store rides. 

 Joe sometimes a little help is helpful Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:05:08 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

 We moved from beautiful Valencia, CA this summer to 
 less-but-still-beautiful NV. There were paseos that connected everything I 
 loved in Valencia, and I spent many happy miles on my Betty Foy frequenting 
 parks, favorite shopping districts and church. I even had another at-home 
 mom and her 2 kiddos to accompany me. My new home is up on a mountain, and 
 boasts no paseos. There is nothing but homes for miles and miles. It takes 
 20min to get to the store by car. I'm able to bike to school with my boys, 
 but it is only 0.5 mile one way. Church is on school property, so I can 
 bike that same route 6 days per week, but it isn't enough. I miss bike 
 commuting because I love doing useful things on my bike - I don't like to 
 cruise with no place or plan in mind. I miss having another mom on my 
 adventures. I'm the only mother who bikes with her kids to school. There 
 are almost 1,000 students at school and there is one dad (mountain bike 
 with disc brakes) I see bike with his son most days. One mom I see on her 
 cruiser bike once every blue moon. It's lonely. And I don't think we'll be 
 moving again for several years. I have a beautiful Betty Foy that 
 practically begs to be ridden and I just don't get her out enough. I'm 
 grateful for the school commute, I just gotta figure out where else I can 
 go... I would guess some of you guys had times in your life where you had 
 to live in a less-than-bikey community. How did you deal? 

 Thanks, Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread Ron Mc
been buying Kookaburra in pints - just broke down and bought my first gallon

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:43:15 PM UTC-6, Hugh Flynn wrote:

 Woolite is great - just not for washing wool :-). 

 I've been using Johnson's Baby Shampoo to wash wool for years. It's 
 gentle, smells great, and seems to do the trick. 

 Hugh Flynn
 Newburyport, MA


 On Jan 24, 2014, at 11:55 AM, James P wrote:

 The only piece I'd add to the posts provided here relates to wool care.

 Once upon a time Woolite was the go-to detergent for wool - but 
 somewhere along the line the formula was changed and the new version 
 appears to be a lot more aggressive, which is good for cleaning grime, but 
 significantly reduces the life-span of garments - particularly the thinner 
 weight merino items.

 Personally, I found Kookaburra wash http://www.kookaburraco.com/ to 
 produce extremely good cleaning results, without damaging the wool. Cold 
 wash on delicate cycle  dried flat keeps the items in shape.

 Regards
 Jim 

 On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:36:21 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:

 These days, cycling specific wool garment prices are astronomical.

 Goodwill has wool tops that are non cycling specific. Sometimes they have 
 100% Merino wool sweaters, like Gap, etc.

 Itch-and -fine-ness-factors aside, will these do just as well layering to 
 keep warm and dry in the winter, and the t-shirts in the summer to keep 
 cool and dry?
 Or does one have to use cycling specific wool to get the desired effects?


 I did have an Ibex score at Goodwill last year. 3 bucks and change for an 
 Ibex t-shirt!


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[RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread ascpgh
+1 for Manny's words.

I think about that each day these last months in the frozen wonderland I 
have been commuting. Not a very long trip either way, but it has been 
interesting at a level different from my fair weather cycling. The wide 
temperature shifts (+28° to -10°), varied precipitation (grapple, columns, 
rime, and plain old dendrites) and the surface situations (salt slush, 
brown snow, white pack, frozen slush, ice...) take my mind away and 
intrigue me with the sounds made by the advancing wheels and the different 
ways the stuff sticks to my bike's wheels and eventually discharges whether 
by centrifugal force, mechanical propulsion (freezing slush pushed through 
aluminum fenders by the turning studded tire) or the force of a driving 
headwind from the north. 

If I don't embrace what some might dismiss easily as really awful biking 
I'd be down to nothing, except my old rollers and the absolutely 
mind-numbing sessions of self-mortification they bring clearly back to me 
as a reminder of how much sensation is available to you on any ride, at any 
time, nearly any place. They motivated my earliest winter riding, late in 
the night with imperfect preparations and along odd ways to avoid traffic 
and those evil cylinders of sensory depravation. I'll take a short ride 
outside anytime.

Andy Cheatham
(7° now, snow coming soon)
Pittsburgh, PA

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:12:43 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Leah,
 With busy lives and higher priority things to do.
 Biking for yourself doesn't come often enough.
 Be happy with the little rides, the little things that make riding such a 
 joy.
 No ride needs to be epic for it to be memorable sometimes it doesn't even 
 have to be scenic. 
 Most of my rides despite how crazy they look are pretty mellow sometimes.
 Lots of times we stop, take pictures, have lunch, coffee, or just hang 
 out. 
 Hope this helps.

 Manny

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:05:08 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
  

 We moved from beautiful Valencia, CA this summer to 
 less-but-still-beautiful NV. There were paseos that connected everything I 
 loved in Valencia, and I spent many happy miles on my Betty Foy frequenting 
 parks, favorite shopping districts and church. I even had another at-home 
 mom and her 2 kiddos to accompany me. My new home is up on a mountain, and 
 boasts no paseos. There is nothing but homes for miles and miles. It takes 
 20min to get to the store by car. I'm able to bike to school with my boys, 
 but it is only 0.5 mile one way. Church is on school property, so I can 
 bike that same route 6 days per week, but it isn't enough. I miss bike 
 commuting because I love doing useful things on my bike - I don't like to 
 cruise with no place or plan in mind. I miss having another mom on my 
 adventures. I'm the only mother who bikes with her kids to school. There 
 are almost 1,000 students at school and there is one dad (mountain bike 
 with disc brakes) I see bike with his son most days. One mom I see on her 
 cruiser bike once every blue moon. It's lonely. And I don't think we'll be 
 moving again for several years. I have a beautiful Betty Foy that 
 practically begs to be ridden and I just don't get her out enough. I'm 
 grateful for the school commute, I just gotta figure out where else I can 
 go... I would guess some of you guys had times in your life where you had 
 to live in a less-than-bikey community. How did you deal? 

 Thanks, Leah



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Re: [RBW] My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great job asking hard questions! The school rides sound like a great start.

Cultivate contentment. A funny thing happens when I shift from being 
frustrated with a situation to being content with the wonders and gifts I 
have in that situation. I start to see options, ways and means, that had 
not occurred to me before.

Are there parks in the area? Coffee shops? Bike rack and hit a remote dirt 
road and explore? Take a wandering ride and explore down the hill a bit. 
not all the way, but enough to wander. You might be surprised what you 
discover from a bike that you miss from a car. Read Yehuda Moon and 
Kickstand Cyclery: http://yehudamoon.com (he has a series on biking to 
school you'll find all too true and hilarious).

There is abundance all around you, the challenge is to unwrap it even 
though it looks different that what you would love it to be. Let us know 
how you get on! Oh, and anything using your Rivendell is not abuse, it's 
use, so no qualms from me on piling them all in a jumble in the back of 
your van.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:18:32 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:

 Bicycle bus - your comment was the second time I've heard it mentioned! 
 The principal has been trying to get parents to create bicycle buses and 
 walk to school - to no avail. We brave the streets when we can and take the 
 sidewalk (legal here) when we can't - which is frequently because everyone 
 drives and the sidewalks are free and clear! I'd love to join up with a 
 bicycle bus. Would be difficult to organize here, but maybe!

 The trip into town and back would take most of a day on bike. It is 
 smooth sailing downhill, but holy smokes, getting home would be awful. Even 
 if I could manage it, it would be a lot of suffering. Definitely a no-go 
 with kiddos. I would like to get a bike rack for the van and maybe find 
 other venues to cycle in on weekends as a family. We actually did go to 
 Hoover Dam today with the bikes shoved in the back of the van and it was 
 good. But I didn't even dare take a pic for this group - it was too 
 shameful the way that classy Betty was being transported. Hubby's classless 
 Target Special with the crooked handlebars and wobbly rear wheel was 
 rubbing against her something awful. I'd have been banned from the list for 
 Rivendell abuse for sure.  


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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Charlie's Soap or Soap Nuts. Either works great.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:39:18 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 been buying Kookaburra in pints - just broke down and bought my first 
 gallon

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:43:15 PM UTC-6, Hugh Flynn wrote:

 Woolite is great - just not for washing wool :-). 

 I've been using Johnson's Baby Shampoo to wash wool for years. It's 
 gentle, smells great, and seems to do the trick. 

 Hugh Flynn
 Newburyport, MA


 On Jan 24, 2014, at 11:55 AM, James P wrote:

 The only piece I'd add to the posts provided here relates to wool care.

 Once upon a time Woolite was the go-to detergent for wool - but 
 somewhere along the line the formula was changed and the new version 
 appears to be a lot more aggressive, which is good for cleaning grime, but 
 significantly reduces the life-span of garments - particularly the thinner 
 weight merino items.

 Personally, I found Kookaburra wash http://www.kookaburraco.com/ to 
 produce extremely good cleaning results, without damaging the wool. Cold 
 wash on delicate cycle  dried flat keeps the items in shape.

 Regards
 Jim 

 On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:36:21 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:

 These days, cycling specific wool garment prices are astronomical.

 Goodwill has wool tops that are non cycling specific. Sometimes they 
 have 100% Merino wool sweaters, like Gap, etc.

 Itch-and -fine-ness-factors aside, will these do just as well layering 
 to keep warm and dry in the winter, and the t-shirts in the summer to keep 
 cool and dry?
 Or does one have to use cycling specific wool to get the desired effects?


 I did have an Ibex score at Goodwill last year. 3 bucks and change for 
 an Ibex t-shirt!


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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread Michael
Thanks for the coupon codes.
The 45%-ER only applied to 21% off the RedRam wool base layers. If the whole 
45% worked, I woulda took the plunge!

I will keep an eye out for more deals.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Pitlock set - Skewers and seat-post bolt

2014-01-26 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Hi

If the Pitlockscare still available I will take them.

Curtis
On Sunday, January 26, 2014, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:

 I have an un-needed set of Pitlock skewers with the seat-post bolt and two
 pits. Pit-code included. Perfect condition. $60 shipped.


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Re: [RBW] My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread LeahFoy
You guys have cheered me right up! I told my husband, Babe, you oughtta like 
these people even more than I - they've brightened my outlook and spared you 
from listening to your wife bemoan her bike situation!

Addison: I live in Henderson. I hear Reno is nice; my husband flies there when 
he has business with the governor. I think I saw some of your photos from your 
lovely Reno once, and it truly looks to be a gem!

There aren't villages on the mountain; but a few miles down it there are a few 
businesses (CVS, Starbucks, Postnet, etc). I've often wondered if I could get 
back up it on my bike; it's quite steep, but maybe without kids

Joe: Good job on 10 months! E-bike is a great idea!

Michael H: Bike racks! Brilliant! I'm going to explore that option this week!

Andy from Pgh: my sister and her husband live in Pittsburgh and are looking to 
relocate to Lawrenceville. They work in downtown law offices and would become 
bike commuters! (They presently live downtown and walk everywhere.) they have 
run into a very cool bikes-guy and talked a bit with him about bikes and bike 
commuting, wonder if it was you? I sent them some Rivendell stuff for Christmas 
to make their bike commuting easier. If you have anything else to add about 
commuting in Pgh, please share!

And to all of you who mentioned contentment in all circumstances, you are 
certainly right. I am so blessed to have my little bike journey with my boys 
and I am going to engage my senses more and try to savor each trip. It's good 
to remember that everyone else does not have a perfect bike situation either, 
but rather they are making the most of what they do have and exercising 
gratitude on their way. Thanks again!

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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread Ron Mc
try this one  EBX48077

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:29:58 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote:

 Thanks for the coupon codes.
 The 45%-ER only applied to 21% off the RedRam wool base layers. If the 
 whole 45% worked, I woulda took the plunge!

 I will keep an eye out for more deals.


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[RBW] SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Eric Norris
Quite a few Rivs out on the course yesterday for a 200K brevet in Rivendell’s 
back yard. I was there with Monsieur Bleriot, and I saw some Homers, a Hunq, a 
Protovelo, a Ram … the list goes on.

Phoros here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157640156904536/

This was what I consider the official start of my trip to Paris-Brest-Paris 
next year. A full brevet series and a 1000K this year will put me at the head 
of the line next year to sign up for PBP!

Oh … GPS data here:

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/436045580  

A rather lumpy ride profile!


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Email: campyonly...@me.com
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Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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[RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Coconutbill


 It was a righteous ride with some spirited philosophical conversation. 

 

 Being on the bike focuses me on the present. Sometimes you can think only 
 about each individual pedal stroke, and that is at times, my form of 
 meditation.  As an atheist I try to find solace in the present. I would 
 argue that regardless ones' philosophical persuasion,  the 
 most fulfilling way to experience life is in the present. Then again, it's 
 difficult to meditate completely on the present, in this difficult world, 
 and all its problems... but each pedal stroke at a time. 


  the why for me, is why-not?...  

   

 


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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread Shawn Granton
Speaking of wool washing...

I just picked up some Ecover Delicate Wash, which is rated for wool. I got
it basically because I was interested in how it works and it's about half
as much as Kookaburra. Seems to be working, but I've only done a few loads.
It's lavender scented, though. I don't mind it, but the scent isn't as nice
as Kookaburra, and reading a few reviews online the scent is the #1 thing
people comment on.

I've also used Dr. Bronners too, though it's not recommended for modern
front-loading high-efficiency washers.

Another thing: While I like Kookaburra and its pleasant scent, sometimes
it's just a bit too gentle to get out strong odors, especially from things
like socks and baselayers. I usually put a little baking soda in the load,
and that takes care of that.

yours,
Shawn

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[RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
It was nice to see you and Mr. B twice.  Best of luck on the build up to 
PBP. 

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:56:12 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:

 Quite a few Rivs out on the course yesterday for a 200K brevet in 
 Rivendell’s back yard. I was there with Monsieur Bleriot, and I saw some 
 Homers, a Hunq, a Protovelo, a Ram … the list goes on.

 Phoros here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157640156904536/

 This was what I consider the official start of my trip to 
 Paris-Brest-Paris next year. A full brevet series and a 1000K this year 
 will put me at the head of the line next year to sign up for PBP!

 Oh … GPS data here:

 http://connect.garmin.com/activity/436045580  

 A rather lumpy ride profile!


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Re: [RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Eric Norris
See you in March for the 300?

--Eric

On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 It was nice to see you and Mr. B twice.  Best of luck on the build up to PBP. 
 
 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:56:12 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
 Quite a few Rivs out on the course yesterday for a 200K brevet in Rivendell’s 
 back yard. I was there with Monsieur Bleriot, and I saw some Homers, a Hunq, 
 a Protovelo, a Ram … the list goes on.
 
 Phoros here:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157640156904536/
 
 This was what I consider the official start of my trip to Paris-Brest-Paris 
 next year. A full brevet series and a 1000K this year will put me at the head 
 of the line next year to sign up for PBP!
 
 Oh … GPS data here:
 
 http://connect.garmin.com/activity/436045580  
 
 A rather lumpy ride profile!
 
 
 --Eric Norris
 Email: campyo...@me.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Philip Williamson
As I re-read Patrick's words, it sounds to me like he's using the 
difference between right and wrong as a way to find God, not using God to 
be told the difference between right and wrong. 
As an atheist, I completely agree with his approach; I just bleeped over 
all the God parts. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:32:29 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

 Learn to realize us atheists aren't any different in recognizing false 
 logic Don't need space Santa to tell me right from wrong. 
 On Jan 25, 2014 9:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 No such thing, sweetheart. You never have to think about anything. But 
 you may want to choose to. Grin.

 Mindfulness, logic, and reason are among the weapons that fight 
 temptation. Learn to recognize false logic and you have learned how to 
 recognize sin (since sin doesn't have the truth to work with, it's only 
 option is false logic). Learn logic and reason and you are on the path to 
 understanding God's Natural Law and thus knowing a slice of the mind of 
 God. God being infinite, a slice is all I can handle. Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 7:16:25 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Or as my daughters have been known to ask me is this one of those 
 things we have to think about? I thought there might be a grin there!



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Absolutely, Robert. I should have put a Grin. after my Mindfull ... 
 what? as that is a joke I give my kids a hard time with quite often. Grin.

 With abandon,
  Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:18:01 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick, when Chris wrote about living in the moment and looking with 
 clear eyes and an open heart, he was describing a fundamental aspect of 
 Buddhism that is often referred to as mindfulness. The hope is to be 
 aware 
 of what is going on within us and all around us; conscious of presence, 
 thoughts and actions. The act of breathing is often used to focus our 
 mind, 
 and  I think we could have an interesting conversation about how riding a 
 bike can clear and focus your mind as well. 



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Mindfull ... what?

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:43:08 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Bosco Bars, mindfulness, Bhagavad Gita, St Ignatius, and a touching 
 reminder of why it all matters. Thank you Hugh. 



 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Eunice Chang sleep...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for your words, Hugh. There is no easy way to deal with 
 this, but doing what you love always seems to be the right thing to 
 do. 

 If Seth was in heaven, I suspect it'd look like this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/7091026041/

 -Eunice

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:35:13 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, 
 parts or RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't 
 that 
 enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must 
 keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread IanA
Cultivate contentment. A funny thing happens when I shift from being 
frustrated with a situation to being content with the wonders and gifts I 
have in that situation.

There is abundance all around you, the challenge is to unwrap it even 
though it looks different that what you would love it to be.

Thank you for these words, Patrick.  Wonderful.

Ian A/Canada.

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:21:01 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Great job asking hard questions! The school rides sound like a great start.

 Cultivate contentment. A funny thing happens when I shift from being 
 frustrated with a situation to being content with the wonders and gifts I 
 have in that situation. I start to see options, ways and means, that had 
 not occurred to me before.

 Are there parks in the area? Coffee shops? Bike rack and hit a remote dirt 
 road and explore? Take a wandering ride and explore down the hill a bit. 
 not all the way, but enough to wander. You might be surprised what you 
 discover from a bike that you miss from a car. Read Yehuda Moon and 
 Kickstand Cyclery: http://yehudamoon.com (he has a series on biking to 
 school you'll find all too true and hilarious).

 There is abundance all around you, the challenge is to unwrap it even 
 though it looks different that what you would love it to be. Let us know 
 how you get on! Oh, and anything using your Rivendell is not abuse, it's 
 use, so no qualms from me on piling them all in a jumble in the back of 
 your van.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:18:32 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:

 Bicycle bus - your comment was the second time I've heard it mentioned! 
 The principal has been trying to get parents to create bicycle buses and 
 walk to school - to no avail. We brave the streets when we can and take the 
 sidewalk (legal here) when we can't - which is frequently because everyone 
 drives and the sidewalks are free and clear! I'd love to join up with a 
 bicycle bus. Would be difficult to organize here, but maybe!

 The trip into town and back would take most of a day on bike. It is 
 smooth sailing downhill, but holy smokes, getting home would be awful. Even 
 if I could manage it, it would be a lot of suffering. Definitely a no-go 
 with kiddos. I would like to get a bike rack for the van and maybe find 
 other venues to cycle in on weekends as a family. We actually did go to 
 Hoover Dam today with the bikes shoved in the back of the van and it was 
 good. But I didn't even dare take a pic for this group - it was too 
 shameful the way that classy Betty was being transported. Hubby's classless 
 Target Special with the crooked handlebars and wobbly rear wheel was 
 rubbing against her something awful. I'd have been banned from the list for 
 Rivendell abuse for sure.  



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[RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Jim M.


On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:56:12 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:


 This was what I consider the official start of my trip to 
 Paris-Brest-Paris next year. A full brevet series and a 1000K this year 
 will put me at the head of the line next year to sign up for PBP!


Are you planning on riding the Bleriot for PBP? Once on the Quickbeam was 
enough?

happy trails
jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: FS: Pitlock set - Skewers and seat-post bolt

2014-01-26 Thread Marty
SOLD - Thanks. (Sorry Curtis, you were second in line.) 

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:49:59 AM UTC-6, Marty wrote:

 I have an un-needed set of Pitlock skewers with the seat-post bolt and two 
 pits. Pit-code included. Perfect condition. $60 shipped. 




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Re: [RBW] My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread Philip Williamson
Maybe some of the Betty awesomeness will rub off on your husband's bike in 
the car! :^)
I've loved the responses to your post, and the bike bus might be workable. 
With 1000 students, there must be 1500 parents; if even 1% thought, Yeah, 
I could try that, you'd have 15 kids.
And... that would be a great way to identify people around you who might be 
up for a coffee break by bike. 

These are the two things I would try in your situation:
Initiate the bike bus thing with the school. Be the contact person. 
Suddenly everyone in school will know you as the bike lady. 

   - Limit your expectations - if you get no one join you, you are still 
   advancing your goal
   - Initiate and follow up on conversations about bikes and bike riding. 
   Basically acquaint yourself with anyone who ever rode a bike. 
   - A possible outcome: you might make friends a couple miles away, and 
   bike to their house for coffee once a week. 

Go to Starbucks by bike once a week at the same time. Mention this in your 
bike conversations. I'm certain you can ride back up that hill, but if you 
have to walk sometimes, walking is good. 

And... three: Download Strava or look at Google Maps and try to figure out 
a labyrinth route in your neighborhood. You can do a long ride in a small 
area, with a goal of riding the labyrinth. You will also go by every 
house and every street. Even if you don't see people, they'll see you. When 
I moved to Oregon, my son and I would ride to school every day, and several 
people struck up a conversation with oh, I see you riding your kid to 
school every morning. I'd never seen them, because they were in their 
houses. So even without the labyrinth idea, I think there's something 
worthwhile in taking the kids for an afternoon ride to make an 
Etch-a-sketch shape in the neighborhood. That just sounds fun - print out a 
map, make a shape, follow the shape, enjoy it on Strava (or runkeeper, or 
Google Tracks, or whatever). You'll be seen riding, your 'rides to nowhere' 
will have an amusing component, and you'll just be riding. 

Good luck in your new home!
Philip
www.biketinker.com 



Limit your expectations, but you may be able to leverage that visibility 
into other bike-related relationships. Ideally, you might find another 
person a couple miles away that you'd like to have coffee with once or 
twice a week, and you could get there by bike. 

My perspective is totally different - until the last couple years, bike 
riding was a way for me to get AWAY from people. I'm still completely out 
of step bike-wise with the people around me, but I enjoy their company. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com



On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:11:00 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

 You guys have cheered me right up! I told my husband, Babe, you oughtta 
 like these people even more than I - they've brightened my outlook and 
 spared you from listening to your wife bemoan her bike situation!

 Addison: I live in Henderson. I hear Reno is nice; my husband flies there 
 when he has business with the governor. I think I saw some of your photos 
 from your lovely Reno once, and it truly looks to be a gem!

 There aren't villages on the mountain; but a few miles down it there are a 
 few businesses (CVS, Starbucks, Postnet, etc). I've often wondered if I 
 could get back up it on my bike; it's quite steep, but maybe without 
 kids

 Joe: Good job on 10 months! E-bike is a great idea!

 Michael H: Bike racks! Brilliant! I'm going to explore that option this 
 week!

 Andy from Pgh: my sister and her husband live in Pittsburgh and are 
 looking to relocate to Lawrenceville. They work in downtown law offices and 
 would become bike commuters! (They presently live downtown and walk 
 everywhere.) they have run into a very cool bikes-guy and talked a bit with 
 him about bikes and bike commuting, wonder if it was you? I sent them some 
 Rivendell stuff for Christmas to make their bike commuting easier. If you 
 have anything else to add about commuting in Pgh, please share!

 And to all of you who mentioned contentment in all circumstances, you are 
 certainly right. I am so blessed to have my little bike journey with my 
 boys and I am going to engage my senses more and try to savor each trip. 
 It's good to remember that everyone else does not have a perfect bike 
 situation either, but rather they are making the most of what they do have 
 and exercising gratitude on their way. Thanks again!



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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
Coconut, glad you caught that. That was the point. Yesterday on each stroke
there was no other option but to be in your head to be the witness. For me
it's therapy.

On the matter of existence, it is all subjective and I always attempt to
give individuals their due respect regardless their view point. For me all
path's lead to the same singularity or by what ever name you choose to use.
If what you believe, your morality allows you to interact in a positive non
injury manner then what more can society ask for? Since we in this state
have no real idea of what the great beyond holds for us it will
continuously remain a mystery.  And yes even the Atheists believe in
something even if it seems like nothing.

One pedal stroke at a time...

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Coconutbill evan.spa...@gmail.com wrote:

 It was a righteous ride with some spirited philosophical conversation.



 Being on the bike focuses me on the present. Sometimes you can think only
 about each individual pedal stroke, and that is at times, my form of
 meditation.  As an atheist I try to find solace in the present. I would
 argue that regardless ones' philosophical persuasion,  the
 most fulfilling way to experience life is in the present. Then again, it's
 difficult to meditate completely on the present, in this difficult world,
 and all its problems... but each pedal stroke at a time.


   the why for me, is why-not?...





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[RBW] Re: SAN FRANCISCO Sunrise Coffee Club, Tuesday 1/28 7am @ Wave Organ

2014-01-26 Thread Irving (boyzonthehoods.com)
I should be able to make it to this!

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RE: [RBW] Re: Finally chased down and purchased the bike (frame) I wanted when I was 16

2014-01-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I did, when I picked up the last Raleigh pictured.  He is an absolutely 
charming and gracious man.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:56 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Finally chased down and purchased the bike (frame) I 
wanted when I was 16

T: I saw a few of Peter's Raleigh collection at the Philly show a few years 
ago... but you visited his shop, didn't you??

Friday, January 24, 2014 12:28:46 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
Here are a few more wonderful JPW Raleigh reimaginings:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16848401@N03/5651708692/in/faves-37542512@N04/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/5154235899/in/faves-37542512@N04/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/5722556927/in/faves-37542512@N04/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8432741668/in/set-72157632653295651

Completion of the last one is a task that regrettably keeps getting bumped back 
in line in my build queue by projects that are more pressing because they’re 
for other folks!

From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: 
[mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:] On Behalf Of Marty
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To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:
Subject: [RBW] Re: Finally chased down and purchased the bike (frame) I wanted 
when I was 16

If you haven't already, check out what JP Weigle has done to a update a few 
classic Raleighs over the years. Here's his Intercourse as just one example.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/4515809003/in/set-72157623905646916
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[RBW] WTB or trade: your dusty 55 or 58cm BOSCO

2014-01-26 Thread lukeheller
Trying to help my bro-in-law get free on his bike I gave him last year. He's 
been running Jeff jones h-bars but wants to get higher and closer. Have a set 
collecting dust? Will happily buy or trade! His h-bars are not 31.8... Pretty 
sure they're 25.4 but not certain. Need to sweeten the deal? Could throw in a 
set of bontrager race lite 620mm wide bars, 25.4 clamp, minor sweep back. 
Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Nope, not my Sequoia, but I'm sure we've traded bikes/parts/greenbacks at 
some point along the road. Thanks for the kind words; it's a very personal 
thing to post on a forum, but this is a personal-type thread on a 
personal-type forum, so I suspect/hope people are ok with it.

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:59:32 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Joe,  I'm glad to hear that you are recovering and riding again.  Didn't I 
 buy the Sequoia my wife has been riding from you?  Maybe a decade or so 
 ago.  She rode it around town until we bought the tandem... since then she 
 mostly wants to ride coupled.

 Like you and Leah I live at the bottom of a long hill and at the edge of 
 the Green Mountains.  Pat is vertically challenged and never volunteers  to 
 take on the mountains.  We also live 2-4 miles down a dirt road which is 
 sometimes not very appealing to ride on.

 Pat and I love our bike racks.  She especially likes the Saris hitch rack 
 which doesn't require lifting a bike overhead, but we will need to buy a 
 bar attachment to mount the Betty on it.  The tandem goes on a Yakima roof 
 rack which has a swing out arm to ease mounting.  I often drive out to 
 pavement or we drive down into the Champlain Valley to ride or over to some 
 good back roads on Grand Isle. When I was commuting, Pat would drive me to 
 the pavement during mud season.  The Adirondacks, on the other side of Lake 
 Champlain offer more modest grades and great shoulders.

 My point is don't get discouraged, just get creative.

 I also remember fondly riding with my kids and am looking forward to 
 riding with my grandchildren, now 3  1.  It turned out to be a great way 
 to keep communication channels open as they moved through adolescents.  We 
 would ride along chatting.  If the conversation took an adversarial tone we 
 would drift apart on the next hill, come back together and start over in a 
 new place.

 As for riding now,... maybe soon.  We are having a warming trend, from 
 minus 22 to minus 5 in just 4 days!

 warmth, blessings, and rain for Ca.
 Michael

 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:14:10 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Last year I moved to the top of a really big hill. I didn't think much of 
 it at the time, but I'm not the strong rider I was 10 years ago (a long 
 story involving less riding as I sank deeper into alcoholism..I'm 10 months 
 sober and slowly getting stronger again), and I was talking myself out of a 
 lot of rides because I didn't want that climb home.

 I recently picked up a used electric bike to see how I liked it, and it 
 has increased my time on the bike quite a bit. I still have my Bleriot and 
 several other human-power-only bicycles which I still ride, but now I have 
 the assisted-pedaling power when I want it. Maybe you could get something 
 like that for the 20 mile store rides. 

 Joe sometimes a little help is helpful Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:05:08 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

 We moved from beautiful Valencia, CA this summer to 
 less-but-still-beautiful NV. There were paseos that connected everything I 
 loved in Valencia, and I spent many happy miles on my Betty Foy frequenting 
 parks, favorite shopping districts and church. I even had another at-home 
 mom and her 2 kiddos to accompany me. My new home is up on a mountain, and 
 boasts no paseos. There is nothing but homes for miles and miles. It takes 
 20min to get to the store by car. I'm able to bike to school with my boys, 
 but it is only 0.5 mile one way. Church is on school property, so I can 
 bike that same route 6 days per week, but it isn't enough. I miss bike 
 commuting because I love doing useful things on my bike - I don't like to 
 cruise with no place or plan in mind. I miss having another mom on my 
 adventures. I'm the only mother who bikes with her kids to school. There 
 are almost 1,000 students at school and there is one dad (mountain bike 
 with disc brakes) I see bike with his son most days. One mom I see on her 
 cruiser bike once every blue moon. It's lonely. And I don't think we'll be 
 moving again for several years. I have a beautiful Betty Foy that 
 practically begs to be ridden and I just don't get her out enough. I'm 
 grateful for the school commute, I just gotta figure out where else I can 
 go... I would guess some of you guys had times in your life where you had 
 to live in a less-than-bikey community. How did you deal? 

 Thanks, Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread dougP
One pedal stroke at a time   I think you guys are onto something.  I 
enjoy long climbs for that reason and the need to pay attention to 
breathing.  A simple, repetitive task that calms the mind  cuts down on 
internal chatter.  

dougP

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:53:44 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Coconut, glad you caught that. That was the point. Yesterday on each 
 stroke there was no other option but to be in your head to be the witness. 
 For me it's therapy.

 On the matter of existence, it is all subjective and I always attempt to 
 give individuals their due respect regardless their view point. For me all 
 path's lead to the same singularity or by what ever name you choose to use. 
 If what you believe, your morality allows you to interact in a positive non 
 injury manner then what more can society ask for? Since we in this state 
 have no real idea of what the great beyond holds for us it will 
 continuously remain a mystery.  And yes even the Atheists believe in 
 something even if it seems like nothing.

 One pedal stroke at a time... 

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Coconutbill evan@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 It was a righteous ride with some spirited philosophical conversation. 

  

 Being on the bike focuses me on the present. Sometimes you can think 
 only about each individual pedal stroke, and that is at times, my form of 
 meditation.  As an atheist I try to find solace in the present. I would 
 argue that regardless ones' philosophical persuasion,  the 
 most fulfilling way to experience life is in the present. Then again, it's 
 difficult to meditate completely on the present, in this difficult world, 
 and all its problems... but each pedal stroke at a time. 


   the why for me, is why-not?...  

   

  

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[RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Michael
I don't know much about Rando-ing.

 

 Do you have to qualify to get into PBP?

I notice you say that doing a 1000k this year gets you ready for PBP next 
year.
Can you complete  a series and register for PBP the same year, or is 
registration over by the time a set o' brevets is done for the year?
Do most Rando-peeps aim for a full series, or do most just go for the rides 
up to 400k?
Are shorter rides offered in Rando clubs all year, or do they go in 
distance order, so your season might and in May if you only do the shorter 
rides?

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Dear Philip and Peter,

Well, you're both right and both wrong in understanding what I was 
attempting to say, but it is clear this is not the forum for further 
discussion of it, so I won't make further attempts to clarify. Please 
accept my apologies for straying beyond the confines of this group.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:50:06 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 As I re-read Patrick's words, it sounds to me like he's using the 
 difference between right and wrong as a way to find God, not using God to 
 be told the difference between right and wrong. 
 As an atheist, I completely agree with his approach; I just bleeped over 
 all the God parts. 

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:32:29 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

 Learn to realize us atheists aren't any different in recognizing false 
 logic Don't need space Santa to tell me right from wrong. 
 On Jan 25, 2014 9:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 No such thing, sweetheart. You never have to think about anything. But 
 you may want to choose to. Grin.

 Mindfulness, logic, and reason are among the weapons that fight 
 temptation. Learn to recognize false logic and you have learned how to 
 recognize sin (since sin doesn't have the truth to work with, it's only 
 option is false logic). Learn logic and reason and you are on the path to 
 understanding God's Natural Law and thus knowing a slice of the mind of 
 God. God being infinite, a slice is all I can handle. Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 7:16:25 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Or as my daughters have been known to ask me is this one of those 
 things we have to think about? I thought there might be a grin there!



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Absolutely, Robert. I should have put a Grin. after my Mindfull ... 
 what? as that is a joke I give my kids a hard time with quite often. 
 Grin.

 With abandon,
  Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:18:01 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick, when Chris wrote about living in the moment and looking 
 with clear eyes and an open heart, he was describing a fundamental 
 aspect 
 of Buddhism that is often referred to as mindfulness. The hope is to be 
 aware of what is going on within us and all around us; conscious of 
 presence, thoughts and actions. The act of breathing is often used to 
 focus 
 our mind, and  I think we could have an interesting conversation about 
 how 
 riding a bike can clear and focus your mind as well. 



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Mindfull ... what?

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:43:08 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Bosco Bars, mindfulness, Bhagavad Gita, St Ignatius, and a touching 
 reminder of why it all matters. Thank you Hugh. 



 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Eunice Chang 
 sleep...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for your words, Hugh. There is no easy way to deal with 
 this, but doing what you love always seems to be the right thing to 
 do. 

 If Seth was in heaven, I suspect it'd look like this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/7091026041/

 -Eunice

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:35:13 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, 
 parts or RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't 
 that 
 enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must 
 keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
Patrick,

Ah you can say what you like my Brother. My post was an introspective one
and your thoughts and beliefs are valid. Please feel free to clarify. After
all I believe the Riv universe would approve as long as there's no
serious proselytizing. You are loved.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Dear Philip and Peter,

 Well, you're both right and both wrong in understanding what I was
 attempting to say, but it is clear this is not the forum for further
 discussion of it, so I won't make further attempts to clarify. Please
 accept my apologies for straying beyond the confines of this group.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:50:06 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 As I re-read Patrick's words, it sounds to me like he's using the
 difference between right and wrong as a way to find God, not using God to
 be told the difference between right and wrong.
 As an atheist, I completely agree with his approach; I just bleeped over
 all the God parts.

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:32:29 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

 Learn to realize us atheists aren't any different in recognizing false
 logic Don't need space Santa to tell me right from wrong.
 On Jan 25, 2014 9:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 No such thing, sweetheart. You never have to think about anything. But
 you may want to choose to. Grin.

 Mindfulness, logic, and reason are among the weapons that fight
 temptation. Learn to recognize false logic and you have learned how to
 recognize sin (since sin doesn't have the truth to work with, it's only
 option is false logic). Learn logic and reason and you are on the path to
 understanding God's Natural Law and thus knowing a slice of the mind of
 God. God being infinite, a slice is all I can handle. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 7:16:25 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Or as my daughters have been known to ask me is this one of those
 things we have to think about? I thought there might be a grin there!



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Absolutely, Robert. I should have put a Grin. after my Mindfull
 ... what? as that is a joke I give my kids a hard time with quite often.
 Grin.

 With abandon,
  Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:18:01 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick, when Chris wrote about living in the moment and looking
 with clear eyes and an open heart, he was describing a fundamental 
 aspect
 of Buddhism that is often referred to as mindfulness. The hope is to be
 aware of what is going on within us and all around us; conscious of
 presence, thoughts and actions. The act of breathing is often used to 
 focus
 our mind, and  I think we could have an interesting conversation about 
 how
 riding a bike can clear and focus your mind as well.



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Mindfull ... what?

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:43:08 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Bosco Bars, mindfulness, Bhagavad Gita, St Ignatius, and a
 touching reminder of why it all matters. Thank you Hugh.



 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Eunice Chang 
 sleep...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for your words, Hugh. There is no easy way to deal with
 this, but doing what you love always seems to be the right thing to 
 do.

 If Seth was in heaven, I suspect it'd look like this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/7091026041/

 -Eunice

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:35:13 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes,
 parts or RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't 
 that
 enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must
 keep moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Mike
To qualify for PBP you need to complete a Super Randonneur series (200k, 
300k, 400k, and 600k). I'm not sure about PBP but I know when I did the 
Cascade 1200k, I qualified with an SR series from the year before. As for 
what most people do... Here in Oregon there's always a bigger turn out for 
the 200k and 300k than for the longer brevets. There are 100k permanents 
which people do on their own schedule. Check out the RUSA 
website--www.rusa.org. Also, not sure where you live Michael, but check and 
see if there's a local randonneuring club. Nneurd out.
 
--mike

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[RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Mike
Great set of photos Eric. Thanks for posting. I sure do miss riding down 
there. Until I moved to OR and started randonneuring the ride from SF to 
the Pt Reyes Lighthouse and back was the longest ride I had ever done. 
 
Good luck with PBP. Any thoughts of doing the Cascade 1200k this year? The 
2012 Cascade was the last randonneuring event I did. I sat out last year 
and am definitely sitting out this year. Well, might do a perm or two this 
summer if I can. Hopefully I'll return to it in 2015. While I can see doing 
200k, 300k and 600k brevets again, I don't know that I'll ever do another 
400k (just too long) or a 1200k (I'd rather go bike camping for 4 days). 
 
 
--mike 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Hugh. I will say this much ... Saint Nicholas is real, and as an 
eternal member of the Communion of Saints he is beyond time and space, so 
space Santa is entirely logical with the eyes of faith. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:50:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Patrick,

 Ah you can say what you like my Brother. My post was an introspective one 
 and your thoughts and beliefs are valid. Please feel free to clarify. After 
 all I believe the Riv universe would approve as long as there's no 
 serious proselytizing. You are loved.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Deacon Patrick 
 lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Dear Philip and Peter,

 Well, you're both right and both wrong in understanding what I was 
 attempting to say, but it is clear this is not the forum for further 
 discussion of it, so I won't make further attempts to clarify. Please 
 accept my apologies for straying beyond the confines of this group.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:50:06 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 As I re-read Patrick's words, it sounds to me like he's using the 
 difference between right and wrong as a way to find God, not using God to 
 be told the difference between right and wrong. 
 As an atheist, I completely agree with his approach; I just bleeped over 
 all the God parts. 

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:32:29 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

 Learn to realize us atheists aren't any different in recognizing false 
 logic Don't need space Santa to tell me right from wrong. 
 On Jan 25, 2014 9:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 No such thing, sweetheart. You never have to think about anything. 
 But you may want to choose to. Grin.

 Mindfulness, logic, and reason are among the weapons that fight 
 temptation. Learn to recognize false logic and you have learned how to 
 recognize sin (since sin doesn't have the truth to work with, it's only 
 option is false logic). Learn logic and reason and you are on the path to 
 understanding God's Natural Law and thus knowing a slice of the mind of 
 God. God being infinite, a slice is all I can handle. Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 7:16:25 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Or as my daughters have been known to ask me is this one of those 
 things we have to think about? I thought there might be a grin 
 there!



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Absolutely, Robert. I should have put a Grin. after my Mindfull 
 ... what? as that is a joke I give my kids a hard time with quite 
 often. 
 Grin.

 With abandon,
  Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:18:01 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick, when Chris wrote about living in the moment and looking 
 with clear eyes and an open heart, he was describing a fundamental 
 aspect 
 of Buddhism that is often referred to as mindfulness. The hope is to 
 be 
 aware of what is going on within us and all around us; conscious of 
 presence, thoughts and actions. The act of breathing is often used to 
 focus 
 our mind, and  I think we could have an interesting conversation about 
 how 
 riding a bike can clear and focus your mind as well. 



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Deacon Patrick 
 lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Mindfull ... what?

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:43:08 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Bosco Bars, mindfulness, Bhagavad Gita, St Ignatius, and a 
 touching reminder of why it all matters. Thank you Hugh. 



 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Eunice Chang sleep...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Thanks for your words, Hugh. There is no easy way to deal with 
 this, but doing what you love always seems to be the right thing to 
 do. 

 If Seth was in heaven, I suspect it'd look like this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/7091026041/

 -Eunice

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:35:13 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, 
 parts or RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't 
 that 
 enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must 
 keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
Oh, snaps!




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Thanks, Hugh. I will say this much ... Saint Nicholas is real, and as an
 eternal member of the Communion of Saints he is beyond time and space, so
 space Santa is entirely logical with the eyes of faith. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:50:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Patrick,

 Ah you can say what you like my Brother. My post was an introspective one
 and your thoughts and beliefs are valid. Please feel free to clarify. After
 all I believe the Riv universe would approve as long as there's no
 serious proselytizing. You are loved.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Dear Philip and Peter,

 Well, you're both right and both wrong in understanding what I was
 attempting to say, but it is clear this is not the forum for further
 discussion of it, so I won't make further attempts to clarify. Please
 accept my apologies for straying beyond the confines of this group.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:50:06 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 As I re-read Patrick's words, it sounds to me like he's using the
 difference between right and wrong as a way to find God, not using God to
 be told the difference between right and wrong.
 As an atheist, I completely agree with his approach; I just bleeped
 over all the God parts.

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:32:29 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

 Learn to realize us atheists aren't any different in recognizing false
 logic Don't need space Santa to tell me right from wrong.
 On Jan 25, 2014 9:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 No such thing, sweetheart. You never have to think about anything.
 But you may want to choose to. Grin.

 Mindfulness, logic, and reason are among the weapons that fight
 temptation. Learn to recognize false logic and you have learned how to
 recognize sin (since sin doesn't have the truth to work with, it's only
 option is false logic). Learn logic and reason and you are on the path to
 understanding God's Natural Law and thus knowing a slice of the mind of
 God. God being infinite, a slice is all I can handle. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 7:16:25 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Or as my daughters have been known to ask me is this one of those
 things we have to think about? I thought there might be a grin 
 there!



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Absolutely, Robert. I should have put a Grin. after my Mindfull
 ... what? as that is a joke I give my kids a hard time with quite 
 often.
 Grin.

 With abandon,
  Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 3:18:01 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick, when Chris wrote about living in the moment and looking
 with clear eyes and an open heart, he was describing a fundamental 
 aspect
 of Buddhism that is often referred to as mindfulness. The hope is to 
 be
 aware of what is going on within us and all around us; conscious of
 presence, thoughts and actions. The act of breathing is often used to 
 focus
 our mind, and  I think we could have an interesting conversation 
 about how
 riding a bike can clear and focus your mind as well.



 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Deacon Patrick 
 lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 Mindfull ... what?

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:43:08 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Bosco Bars, mindfulness, Bhagavad Gita, St Ignatius, and a
 touching reminder of why it all matters. Thank you Hugh.



 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Eunice Chang 
 sleep...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your words, Hugh. There is no easy way to deal with
 this, but doing what you love always seems to be the right thing 
 to do.

 If Seth was in heaven, I suspect it'd look like this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/7091026041/

 -Eunice

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:35:13 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell
 bikes, parts or RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's 
 involved isn't
 that enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must
 keep moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Mike
I know. That was sweet. 

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:09:37 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, snaps! 

 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
  wrote:
  
 Thanks, Hugh. I will say this much ... Saint Nicholas is real, and as an 
 eternal member of the Communion of Saints he is beyond time and space, so 
 space Santa is entirely logical with the eyes of faith. Grin.

  

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Peter Morgano
Haha, sorry for my tone seeming harsh, Internet is a hard place for tone.
My daughter and wife are religious and I was an altar boy and have a minor
in religious studies. I more find religion fascinating than real though.
Feel free to speak your mind, you don't need anyone's permission to do
that, but don't take it personally if I rib you from time to time. ;-)
On Jan 26, 2014 4:19 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know. That was sweet.

 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:09:37 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, snaps!

 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 Thanks, Hugh. I will say this much ... Saint Nicholas is real, and as an
 eternal member of the Communion of Saints he is beyond time and space, so
 space Santa is entirely logical with the eyes of faith. Grin.



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[RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread grrlyrida
Hi Leah,

With regards to the bike bus, contact Safe Routes to School (SFTS). They 
have coordinators in your district, information online how to start a bike 
bus and webinars. I am the bike/bus coordinator for my local elementary 
school located on a freeway otherwise known as Sunset Blvd. here in LA. 
Using SRTS online tools and talking with some of their coordinators I was 
able to get the school to join the national walk to school day. Because it 
hadn't happened before we had over 30 parents and children come out on a 
cloudy day that every feared would bring more rain. A councilman and the 
city attorney walked with the students, along the director of SoCal SRTS. 
The comment I heard most from the children was, Can we do this everyday. 
Some parents even parked and walked. 

It seems like a daunting task to organize a bike bus but like you've 
learned from the other posters on your thread--you're not alone! I too am 
organizing a bike to school ride on the national bike to school day in May. 
Join me through SRTS.

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:05:08 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

 We moved from beautiful Valencia, CA this summer to 
 less-but-still-beautiful NV. There were paseos that connected everything I 
 loved in Valencia, and I spent many happy miles on my Betty Foy frequenting 
 parks, favorite shopping districts and church. I even had another at-home 
 mom and her 2 kiddos to accompany me. My new home is up on a mountain, and 
 boasts no paseos. There is nothing but homes for miles and miles. It takes 
 20min to get to the store by car. I'm able to bike to school with my boys, 
 but it is only 0.5 mile one way. Church is on school property, so I can 
 bike that same route 6 days per week, but it isn't enough. I miss bike 
 commuting because I love doing useful things on my bike - I don't like to 
 cruise with no place or plan in mind. I miss having another mom on my 
 adventures. I'm the only mother who bikes with her kids to school. There 
 are almost 1,000 students at school and there is one dad (mountain bike 
 with disc brakes) I see bike with his son most days. One mom I see on her 
 cruiser bike once every blue moon. It's lonely. And I don't think we'll be 
 moving again for several years. I have a beautiful Betty Foy that 
 practically begs to be ridden and I just don't get her out enough. I'm 
 grateful for the school commute, I just gotta figure out where else I can 
 go... I would guess some of you guys had times in your life where you had 
 to live in a less-than-bikey community. How did you deal? 

 Thanks, Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Apology accepted, Peter. I am sorry the faith you experienced growing up 
was tainted to be less than its infinite reality.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:22:53 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 Haha, sorry for my tone seeming harsh, Internet is a hard place for tone. 
 My daughter and wife are religious and I was an altar boy and have a minor 
 in religious studies. I more find religion fascinating than real though. 
 Feel free to speak your mind, you don't need anyone's permission to do 
 that, but don't take it personally if I rib you from time to time. ;-) 
 On Jan 26, 2014 4:19 PM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 I know. That was sweet. 

 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:09:37 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, snaps! 

 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:
  
 Thanks, Hugh. I will say this much ... Saint Nicholas is real, and as 
 an eternal member of the Communion of Saints he is beyond time and space, 
 so space Santa is entirely logical with the eyes of faith. Grin.

  

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[RBW] Paddle-to-the-Sea

2014-01-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
My wife discovered and bought a book I read once in elementary school and then 
in faded into the mist but stuck with me in ways the great stories do after 
even one telling. Paddle-to-the-Sea exemplifies the spirit of Rivendell, as 
least as I experience it. It is a joy to get to share it with my kids.

It has a spirit of creation and craftsmanship, wild adventure, long waylays, 
seeming destruction turned to renewal and unexpected help for the helpless, 
ardent adventurer on a noble quest, and selfless love and giving of strangers 
crossing paths for brief periods, both the better for the encounter.

In case you know it and it was also lost in the mist, here is a reminder. 

http://www.amazon.com/Paddle-Sea-Sandpiper-Books/dp/0395292034/ref=sr_1_3?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1390774861sr=1-3keywords=paddle

With abandon,
Patrick

www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
www.OurHolyConception.org

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Re: [RBW] Paddle-to-the-Sea

2014-01-26 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Patrick,

Oh what memories you stirred.  I grew up reading that book and my parents
still have it.  Maybe the book is responsible for my wanderlust.  How
wonderful.

Peace,

Curtis about to go to the grocery on the AHH McKenzie


On Sunday, January 26, 2014, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 My wife discovered and bought a book I read once in elementary school and
 then in faded into the mist but stuck with me in ways the great stories do
 after even one telling. Paddle-to-the-Sea exemplifies the spirit of
 Rivendell, as least as I experience it. It is a joy to get to share it with
 my kids.

 It has a spirit of creation and craftsmanship, wild adventure, long
 waylays, seeming destruction turned to renewal and unexpected help for the
 helpless, ardent adventurer on a noble quest, and selfless love and giving
 of strangers crossing paths for brief periods, both the better for the
 encounter.

 In case you know it and it was also lost in the mist, here is a reminder.


 http://www.amazon.com/Paddle-Sea-Sandpiper-Books/dp/0395292034/ref=sr_1_3?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1390774861sr=1-3keywords=paddle

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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Re: [RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
That is the plan (rocking the 300)

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:45:38 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:

 See you in March for the 300?

 --Eric

 On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 It was nice to see you and Mr. B twice.  Best of luck on the build up to 
 PBP. 

 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:56:12 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:

 Quite a few Rivs out on the course yesterday for a 200K brevet in 
 Rivendell’s back yard. I was there with Monsieur Bleriot, and I saw some 
 Homers, a Hunq, a Protovelo, a Ram … the list goes on.

 Phoros here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157640156904536/

 This was what I consider the official start of my trip to 
 Paris-Brest-Paris next year. A full brevet series and a 1000K this year 
 will put me at the head of the line next year to sign up for PBP!

 Oh … GPS data here:

 http://connect.garmin.com/activity/436045580  

 A rather lumpy ride profile!


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 Email: campyo...@me.com
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 Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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[RBW] Any kindred spirits in Connecticut?

2014-01-26 Thread Tim
So I've been working in CT now for a year and a half. I'm in the New Haven area 
and except for one charity ride this fall all of my riding has been solo. Even 
though I've ridden quite a lot I've put on weight and am in the process of 
taking it off. That's going well but I've decided some goals will help me stay 
focused so I'm planning on some brevets on Long Island. I'm going for a 200k 
and 300k in May. Maybe I'll go for more after that. Anyway, I'd really like to 
join some other Riv owners this spring. It doesn't have to be training rides 
or even long distance but that would be fine too. Training, rambles, 
trails...any and all would be great. I have a Homer and a Hunqapillar with me 
so...how about it? If there's no one close any route suggestions would be 
welcomed. Peace!

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[RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-26 Thread Bill Lindsay



Thanks all.  I got the racks and fenders installed.  It is a lot of work 
doing this kind of integrated install.  The rear has no frame mounted 
stays.  It bolts on at the dropout and then bolts to the fender in two 
places.  The front attaches at the dropout, at the crown with a daruma, and 
to the rack platform.  Now I'm ready for just about anything.  Except now 
that the fenders are fully fitted, now I get to take them back off for 
pinstriping!  

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5505/12163782924_3a12bb038c_z.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3743/12163777364_83e0628197_z.jpg





On Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:22:19 PM UTC-8, grrlyrida wrote:

 What a beautiful bike. You did such fine work. Inspires me to take some 
 rust off my Bridgestone.

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:29:48 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it 
 around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is 
 that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking 
 power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the 
 racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The 
 racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the 
 rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, 
 so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.

 Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with 
 clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  
 They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged 
 up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  
 Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's 
 looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks 
 lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, 
 we're making memories (as my mom always says)!  

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg


 Tons of 
 Photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157638367153736/



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[RBW] Re: Anyone looking for a 52 Betty? This on the SF CL

2014-01-26 Thread Eric
Anyone on the list can help me facilitate??

I'd be more than greatful  even pay a few extra bucks for the service.

Let me know, thanks!

- Eric

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:09:28 PM UTC-6, danmc wrote:

 No relation. Just passing it on. 

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4304247061.html 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone looking for a 52 Betty? This on the SF CL

2014-01-26 Thread Dan McNamara
I can help. 

Dan

 On Jan 26, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone on the list can help me facilitate??
 
 I'd be more than greatful  even pay a few extra bucks for the service.
 
 Let me know, thanks!
 
 - Eric
 
 On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:09:28 PM UTC-6, danmc wrote:
 No relation. Just passing it on. 
 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4304247061.html
 
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[RBW] Re: Anyone looking for a 52 Betty? This on the SF CL

2014-01-26 Thread Eric
Seller said it had sold. Better luck next time!

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:09:28 PM UTC-6, danmc wrote:

 No relation. Just passing it on. 

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[RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Michael


 How much training do you all do for these long rides?


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[RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread Michael


 What's a bike bus and are there Rivendells involved?

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[RBW] Someone's hiding their new Ram from us ...

2014-01-26 Thread Michael

OK, I know you just bought the 54 Ramso, don't keep us in the dark. 
Stop lurking and show us some pics already.

Either way; Congrats on the new bike and I hope it works out great for you.

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[RBW] Re: FS: PassStow Porteur Rack and Freight Baggage Porteur Rack Bag

2014-01-26 Thread hsmitham
Curious what has changed about your riding habits? 

~Hugh

On Friday, January 24, 2014 10:39:46 AM UTC-8, Jim Schwappach wrote:

 I bought both of these items new about a year ago for my 58cm AHH.  Worked 
 like a charm, but my cycling habits changed soon after I bought them so 
 both are in pristine, like-new condition.

 Rack includes optional non-drive side light post and one Gino light mount; 
 along with all mounting hardware.  Price new: $329.  Asking $300+shipping.

 Bag is roll-top, designed specifically for the PS rack.  Black exterior, 
 red vinyl interior.  Comes with shoulder strap.  Price new: $225.  Asking 
 $200+shipping.

 If you'd like them both, bundled price is $475+shipping.

 I can also meet SF Bay area buyers at a BART or Muni station in SF.

 Call at 707-364-5601 for more details and/or pictures.




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Re: [RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
Bill,

I find it interesting that this was an inexpensive bicycle...cause it looks
outstanding. Curious you said IIRC that you planned using it for overnights?

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks all.  I got the racks and fenders installed.  It is a lot of work
 doing this kind of integrated install.  The rear has no frame mounted
 stays.  It bolts on at the dropout and then bolts to the fender in two
 places.  The front attaches at the dropout, at the crown with a daruma, and
 to the rack platform.  Now I'm ready for just about anything.  Except now
 that the fenders are fully fitted, now I get to take them back off for
 pinstriping!

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5505/12163782924_3a12bb038c_z.jpg

 http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3743/12163777364_83e0628197_z.jpg





 On Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:22:19 PM UTC-8, grrlyrida wrote:

 What a beautiful bike. You did such fine work. Inspires me to take some
 rust off my Bridgestone.

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:29:48 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it
 around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is
 that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking
 power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the
 racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The
 racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the
 rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits,
 so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.

 Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with
 clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.
 They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged
 up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.
 Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's
 looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks
 lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well,
 we're making memories (as my mom always says)!

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg


 Tons of 
 Photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157638367153736/

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Re: [RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Eric Norris
I'll be riding the Santa Cruz 1000K later this year. That will get me in the 
first signup group for PBP next year!

Regarding brevets-I agree that they're fun at 200 or 300. 400K starts getting 
hard, and 600K starts to be unpleasant. Still, it's an adventure, and if it was 
easy everybody would do it.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Great set of photos Eric. Thanks for posting. I sure do miss riding down 
 there. Until I moved to OR and started randonneuring the ride from SF to the 
 Pt Reyes Lighthouse and back was the longest ride I had ever done.
  
 Good luck with PBP. Any thoughts of doing the Cascade 1200k this year? The 
 2012 Cascade was the last randonneuring event I did. I sat out last year and 
 am definitely sitting out this year. Well, might do a perm or two this summer 
 if I can. Hopefully I'll return to it in 2015. While I can see doing 200k, 
 300k and 600k brevets again, I don't know that I'll ever do another 400k 
 (just too long) or a 1200k (I'd rather go bike camping for 4 days).
  
  
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[RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread grrlyrida
Years ago when I had a subscription to Bicycling magazine, they had a story 
about this amazing cyclist who was as fast as anyone on the TdF. The 
problem was that he refused to race. He would spend hours on his bike in 
the mountains, even refusing full time work so he could spend his day 
riding in what I believed was Colorado. Cycling was meditative for him and 
at the end of the story he said, Cycling is my religion. That quote has 
always stuck with me, because when I ride the Hollywood Hills it's like my 
escape where I find balance. I find my church; I find my religion.

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:35:13 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts or 
 RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/


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[RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread allenmichael
I finished the 200k on Saturday with my persimmon Ram. My first brevet.  I 
hadn't done any training except one 75 miler two weeks ago, and my 14 mile 
commute across san francisco and back. I wasn't very fast; I wouldn't be 
surprised to learn that I was the last one in. If you don't mind a certain 
amount of pain and discomfort, you don't need to train. The time limits are 
pretty generous. The ride though might have been more enjoyable with more 
preparation and training. I'm looking forward to finding out on my next one.

Michael Allen

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:56:12 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:

 Quite a few Rivs out on the course yesterday for a 200K brevet in 
 Rivendell’s back yard. I was there with Monsieur Bleriot, and I saw some 
 Homers, a Hunq, a Protovelo, a Ram … the list goes on.

 Phoros here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157640156904536/

 This was what I consider the official start of my trip to 
 Paris-Brest-Paris next year. A full brevet series and a 1000K this year 
 will put me at the head of the line next year to sign up for PBP!

 Oh … GPS data here:

 http://connect.garmin.com/activity/436045580  

 A rather lumpy ride profile!


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[RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread hsmitham
Hello Riders,

Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a February 
S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle Man/Woman 's 
leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at any 
number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that Bikes, 
beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be my second 
of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming and after such 
an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic with a dose of 
country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya all it's no 
big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's the Boy Scout 
in me always be prepared. 

Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
 which 
helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

*Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently and have 
nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and come along for 
the fun.*

Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates are what 
are available for me and the times are arrival times per Amtrak Surfliner.

As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Mike
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:37:52 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:

 I'll be riding the Santa Cruz 1000K later this year. That will get me in 
 the first signup group for PBP next year!

 Regarding brevets-I agree that they're fun at 200 or 300. 400K starts 
 getting hard, and 600K starts to be unpleasant. Still, it's an adventure, 
 and if it was easy everybody would do it.


That's great about the SC 1000k. It's funny, I find the 400k unpleasant and 
the 600k completely awesome. I look at 600ks as really long weekend cycling 
trips. Oh sure, there's rough moments but overall I love them. Here in OR 
they usually have an overnight control so if you're moving along at a good 
clip you can sleep for a few hours. A couple of times I've managed like 4 
to 5 hrs sleep. Once I got barely an hour and a half and that was rough. I 
think I finished with like 45 minutes to spare. That was my all-time 
roughest ride ever. Triple digit temps both days and lots of climbing on 
the first day.

This thread is starting to get me amped on randonneuring... 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
How come I've never seen you in my church??

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 7:44 PM, grrlyrida grrlyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Years ago when I had a subscription to Bicycling magazine, they had a
 story about this amazing cyclist who was as fast as anyone on the TdF. The
 problem was that he refused to race. He would spend hours on his bike in
 the mountains, even refusing full time work so he could spend his day
 riding in what I believed was Colorado. Cycling was meditative for him and
 at the end of the story he said, Cycling is my religion. That quote has
 always stuck with me, because when I ride the Hollywood Hills it's like my
 escape where I find balance. I find my church; I find my religion.


 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:35:13 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts or
 RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] Re: Paddle-to-the-Sea

2014-01-26 Thread hsmitham
Patrick,

Never had the joy to read it. Thanks to you I will.

~Hugh

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:26:01 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 My wife discovered and bought a book I read once in elementary school and 
 then in faded into the mist but stuck with me in ways the great stories do 
 after even one telling. Paddle-to-the-Sea exemplifies the spirit of 
 Rivendell, as least as I experience it. It is a joy to get to share it with 
 my kids.

 It has a spirit of creation and craftsmanship, wild adventure, long 
 waylays, seeming destruction turned to renewal and unexpected help for the 
 helpless, ardent adventurer on a noble quest, and selfless love and giving 
 of strangers crossing paths for brief periods, both the better for the 
 encounter.

 In case you know it and it was also lost in the mist, here is a reminder. 


 http://www.amazon.com/Paddle-Sea-Sandpiper-Books/dp/0395292034/ref=sr_1_3?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1390774861sr=1-3keywords=paddle

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Eric Norris
566 days to the start of PBP!

–Eric N
Sent from my iPhone 5S

 On Jan 26, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:37:52 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
 I'll be riding the Santa Cruz 1000K later this year. That will get me in the 
 first signup group for PBP next year!
 
 Regarding brevets-I agree that they're fun at 200 or 300. 400K starts 
 getting hard, and 600K starts to be unpleasant. Still, it's an adventure, 
 and if it was easy everybody would do it.
 
 That's great about the SC 1000k. It's funny, I find the 400k unpleasant and 
 the 600k completely awesome. I look at 600ks as really long weekend cycling 
 trips. Oh sure, there's rough moments but overall I love them. Here in OR 
 they usually have an overnight control so if you're moving along at a good 
 clip you can sleep for a few hours. A couple of times I've managed like 4 to 
 5 hrs sleep. Once I got barely an hour and a half and that was rough. I think 
 I finished with like 45 minutes to spare. That was my all-time roughest ride 
 ever. Triple digit temps both days and lots of climbing on the first day.
 
 This thread is starting to get me amped on randonneuring... 
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[RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread hsmitham
I have smart wool products and liked them initially, but have since found 
them to tear a bit too easily and I'm generally very gentle with wool 
garments. I love their socks though wear em all the time in any weather.

I like the Ibex garments but I think they're extremely expensive...I have 
two short sleeve shirts, arm and leg warmers. What I've found is I don't 
like wool bike specific clothing, I can't stand rear pockets to stash 
things that's why I have racks and bags for goodness sake. I love the MUSA 
SS t-shirts that Rivendell sells great price and quality, they work well 
either as a base or by them selves well above 80 degrees. Planning on 
picking up a wooly warm tweed sweater real soon.

Disclaimer: Since I live in the land of the furnace I have come to accept 
that wool only suits very narrow times here in SoCal so the others 
obviously will have better feed back on temps below 40 degrees. Now if ya 
want to talk about hot weather clothing!!

~Hugh parched Smitham

On Friday, January 24, 2014 12:39:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 The Icebreaker clothing is made in China, so no surprise it's offered at 
 big discounts.  I prefer to buy US or NZ or Australia made items myself in 
 keeping with the Rivendell vision. 

 I like the Ibex jersey's and they have sales at the end of the season that 
 make the prices a little more reasonable. Their wool knickers are fantastic 
 too.   Ground Effect from New Zealand makes some good blended merino 
 jerseys that do better in warmer weather.  

 For a really lightweight top, the Smartwool Mircoweight tops are really 
 nice. They are made in Vietnam.  This place has good deals on Smartwool   
 http://www.moontrail.com/home.php?cat=485

 ~mike




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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can be a
part of it.

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a February
 S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle Man/Woman 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be my second
 of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming and after such
 an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic with a dose of
 country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya all it's no
 big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's the Boy Scout
 in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently and have
 nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and come along for
 the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates are what
 are available for me and the times are arrival times per Amtrak Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
Oh did I leave those out?

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can be a
 part of it.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a February
 S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle Man/Woman 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be my
 second of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming and after
 such an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic with a dose
 of country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya all it's no
 big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's the Boy Scout
 in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently and have
 nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and come along for
 the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates are what
 are available for me and the times are arrival times per Amtrak Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] San Francisco Sunset Ramble. Tomorrow! Meet at the Ferry Building 4ish

2014-01-26 Thread Manuel Acosta
After work ramble.
One of the Portlanders is coming down.
Secret special guest!
Doing some dirt might head up riding in the dark. 
Coffee or food afterwords is a must. 

Again.
Ferry Building 4ish. 
Tomorrow!

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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
I wear wool shirts (t-shirt, jersey, polo) pretty much year round. When
it's really hot (95F+) I like them while riding, but don't like them when
not. Kinda' weird, I guess it's probably the lack of air movement and
evaporation.

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:07 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have smart wool products and liked them initially, but have since found
 them to tear a bit too easily and I'm generally very gentle with wool
 garments. I love their socks though wear em all the time in any weather.

 I like the Ibex garments but I think they're extremely expensive...I have
 two short sleeve shirts, arm and leg warmers. What I've found is I don't
 like wool bike specific clothing, I can't stand rear pockets to stash
 things that's why I have racks and bags for goodness sake. I love the MUSA
 SS t-shirts that Rivendell sells great price and quality, they work well
 either as a base or by them selves well above 80 degrees. Planning on
 picking up a wooly warm tweed sweater real soon.

 Disclaimer: Since I live in the land of the furnace I have come to accept
 that wool only suits very narrow times here in SoCal so the others
 obviously will have better feed back on temps below 40 degrees. Now if ya
 want to talk about hot weather clothing!!

 ~Hugh parched Smitham


 On Friday, January 24, 2014 12:39:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 The Icebreaker clothing is made in China, so no surprise it's offered at
 big discounts.  I prefer to buy US or NZ or Australia made items myself in
 keeping with the Rivendell vision.

 I like the Ibex jersey's and they have sales at the end of the season
 that make the prices a little more reasonable. Their wool knickers are
 fantastic too.   Ground Effect from New Zealand makes some good blended
 merino jerseys that do better in warmer weather.

 For a really lightweight top, the Smartwool Mircoweight tops are really
 nice. They are made in Vietnam.  This place has good deals on Smartwool
 http://www.moontrail.com/home.php?cat=485

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
Better re-think your agenda!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh did I leave those out?

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can be a
 part of it.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a February
 S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle Man/Woman 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be my
 second of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming and after
 such an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic with a dose
 of country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya all it's no
 big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's the Boy Scout
 in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently and have
 nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and come along for
 the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates are
 what are available for me and the times are arrival times per Amtrak
 Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
Well your just freakish.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wear wool shirts (t-shirt, jersey, polo) pretty much year round. When
 it's really hot (95F+) I like them while riding, but don't like them when
 not. Kinda' weird, I guess it's probably the lack of air movement and
 evaporation.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:07 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have smart wool products and liked them initially, but have since found
 them to tear a bit too easily and I'm generally very gentle with wool
 garments. I love their socks though wear em all the time in any weather.

 I like the Ibex garments but I think they're extremely expensive...I have
 two short sleeve shirts, arm and leg warmers. What I've found is I don't
 like wool bike specific clothing, I can't stand rear pockets to stash
 things that's why I have racks and bags for goodness sake. I love the MUSA
 SS t-shirts that Rivendell sells great price and quality, they work well
 either as a base or by them selves well above 80 degrees. Planning on
 picking up a wooly warm tweed sweater real soon.

 Disclaimer: Since I live in the land of the furnace I have come to accept
 that wool only suits very narrow times here in SoCal so the others
 obviously will have better feed back on temps below 40 degrees. Now if ya
 want to talk about hot weather clothing!!

 ~Hugh parched Smitham


 On Friday, January 24, 2014 12:39:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 The Icebreaker clothing is made in China, so no surprise it's offered at
 big discounts.  I prefer to buy US or NZ or Australia made items myself in
 keeping with the Rivendell vision.

 I like the Ibex jersey's and they have sales at the end of the season
 that make the prices a little more reasonable. Their wool knickers are
 fantastic too.   Ground Effect from New Zealand makes some good blended
 merino jerseys that do better in warmer weather.

 For a really lightweight top, the Smartwool Mircoweight tops are really
 nice. They are made in Vietnam.  This place has good deals on Smartwool
 http://www.moontrail.com/home.php?cat=485

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
If a hatchet there will be then you better haul it out West.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Better re-think your agenda!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh did I leave those out?

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can be a
 part of it.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a
 February S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle Man/Woman 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be my
 second of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming and after
 such an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic with a dose
 of country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya all it's no
 big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's the Boy Scout
 in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently and
 have nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and come along
 for the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates are
 what are available for me and the times are arrival times per Amtrak
 Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

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 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
I've been called worse.

Cheers,
David

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On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well your just freakish.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wear wool shirts (t-shirt, jersey, polo) pretty much year round. When
 it's really hot (95F+) I like them while riding, but don't like them when
 not. Kinda' weird, I guess it's probably the lack of air movement and
 evaporation.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:07 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have smart wool products and liked them initially, but have since
 found them to tear a bit too easily and I'm generally very gentle with wool
 garments. I love their socks though wear em all the time in any weather.

 I like the Ibex garments but I think they're extremely expensive...I
 have two short sleeve shirts, arm and leg warmers. What I've found is I
 don't like wool bike specific clothing, I can't stand rear pockets to stash
 things that's why I have racks and bags for goodness sake. I love the MUSA
 SS t-shirts that Rivendell sells great price and quality, they work well
 either as a base or by them selves well above 80 degrees. Planning on
 picking up a wooly warm tweed sweater real soon.

 Disclaimer: Since I live in the land of the furnace I have come to
 accept that wool only suits very narrow times here in SoCal so the others
 obviously will have better feed back on temps below 40 degrees. Now if ya
 want to talk about hot weather clothing!!

 ~Hugh parched Smitham


 On Friday, January 24, 2014 12:39:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 The Icebreaker clothing is made in China, so no surprise it's offered
 at big discounts.  I prefer to buy US or NZ or Australia made items myself
 in keeping with the Rivendell vision.

 I like the Ibex jersey's and they have sales at the end of the season
 that make the prices a little more reasonable. Their wool knickers are
 fantastic too.   Ground Effect from New Zealand makes some good blended
 merino jerseys that do better in warmer weather.

 For a really lightweight top, the Smartwool Mircoweight tops are really
 nice. They are made in Vietnam.  This place has good deals on Smartwool
 http://www.moontrail.com/home.php?cat=485

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-01-26 Thread Tony DeFilippo
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/national-mall-snow-ride.html

Certainly not a definitive 'test', but each time I'm out w/ these 2.1 
tires I'm loving them more.  The National Mall has a crushed stone walkway 
going down either side of it and my wife and I took a very leisurely and 
relatively short ramble w/ the knobby-tired-bikes this morning.  I wanted 
to play in the snow a bit but also keep the exposure to the cold brief 
enough that I'd get her company.  Great time all around.  We warmed up in 
the US Botanic Garden taking in the warmth, humidity and gorgeous greenness 
that we are definitely lacking this time of year in DC.  I'm primed to ride 
most of the week for my commute after lying low last week.  Can't wait to 
get back in the saddle!

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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
Don't leave home without one.

Oh wait, I think that's a towel.

Cheers,
David

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On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 If a hatchet there will be then you better haul it out West.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Better re-think your agenda!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh did I leave those out?

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can be a
 part of it.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a
 February S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle Man/Woman 
 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be my
 second of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming and 
 after
 such an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic with a dose
 of country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya all it's 
 no
 big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's the Boy Scout
 in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently and
 have nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and come 
 along
 for the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates are
 what are available for me and the times are arrival times per Amtrak
 Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
Oh was Freakish a bad thing? It wasn't meant that way. Like in he had
freakish stamina.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:20 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've been called worse.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well your just freakish.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wear wool shirts (t-shirt, jersey, polo) pretty much year round. When
 it's really hot (95F+) I like them while riding, but don't like them when
 not. Kinda' weird, I guess it's probably the lack of air movement and
 evaporation.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:07 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have smart wool products and liked them initially, but have since
 found them to tear a bit too easily and I'm generally very gentle with wool
 garments. I love their socks though wear em all the time in any weather.

 I like the Ibex garments but I think they're extremely expensive...I
 have two short sleeve shirts, arm and leg warmers. What I've found is I
 don't like wool bike specific clothing, I can't stand rear pockets to stash
 things that's why I have racks and bags for goodness sake. I love the MUSA
 SS t-shirts that Rivendell sells great price and quality, they work well
 either as a base or by them selves well above 80 degrees. Planning on
 picking up a wooly warm tweed sweater real soon.

 Disclaimer: Since I live in the land of the furnace I have come to
 accept that wool only suits very narrow times here in SoCal so the others
 obviously will have better feed back on temps below 40 degrees. Now if ya
 want to talk about hot weather clothing!!

 ~Hugh parched Smitham


 On Friday, January 24, 2014 12:39:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 The Icebreaker clothing is made in China, so no surprise it's offered
 at big discounts.  I prefer to buy US or NZ or Australia made items myself
 in keeping with the Rivendell vision.

 I like the Ibex jersey's and they have sales at the end of the season
 that make the prices a little more reasonable. Their wool knickers are
 fantastic too.   Ground Effect from New Zealand makes some good blended
 merino jerseys that do better in warmer weather.

 For a really lightweight top, the Smartwool Mircoweight tops are
 really nice. They are made in Vietnam.  This place has good deals on
 Smartwool   http://www.moontrail.com/home.php?cat=485

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
I thought that was a petrol derivative.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:21 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Don't leave home without one.

 Oh wait, I think that's a towel.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 If a hatchet there will be then you better haul it out West.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Better re-think your agenda!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh did I leave those out?

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can be
 a part of it.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a
 February S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle Man/Woman 
 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that 
 Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be my
 second of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming and 
 after
 such an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic with a dose
 of country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya all it's 
 no
 big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's the Boy Scout
 in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently and
 have nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and come 
 along
 for the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates are
 what are available for me and the times are arrival times per Amtrak
 Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: SFR 200K 1-25-14 - a set on Flickr

2014-01-26 Thread Jim Bronson
Lots of people have ridden PBP having never ridden a brevet prior to
the start of the year that PBP is in.  (whatever year that may have
been...)

However, due to the popularity of the event, the organizers have had
to come up with some sort of way of limiting participation.  I went in
2007 and there were 5300 participants, it was quite a crowd.  Ergo,
for 2011 and now 2015, your order of registration is now based on the
length of ride you did in the year prior to PBP.  In other words,
people that do a 1000 or 1200K in 2014 will get to register prior to
people who didn't do a 1000 or 1200K the year before.

Here is the information for 2015:
http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?lang=encat=inscriptionpage=comment_sinscrire

That being said, from what I heard about 2011, every American that
wanted to go was able to register.  I didn't go back in 2011 but I am
planning a trip in 2015.  As for this year I will be doing a 1000K
with Lone Star Randonneurs in the DFW area in May and I'm coming out
to the California Central Coast 1200K.  I chose the 1200 rather than
the 1000 because I have never successfully completed at 1200K...yet.

I hope to meet at least one of you at the start of 3CR ;)

-Jim

On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know much about Rando-ing.



 Do you have to qualify to get into PBP?

 I notice you say that doing a 1000k this year gets you ready for PBP next
 year.
 Can you complete  a series and register for PBP the same year, or is
 registration over by the time a set o' brevets is done for the year?
 Do most Rando-peeps aim for a full series, or do most just go for the rides
 up to 400k?
 Are shorter rides offered in Rando clubs all year, or do they go in distance
 order, so your season might and in May if you only do the shorter rides?

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
Sure, I'll use it for S24Os.  I think the bike probably cost about $150 in 
1973.  

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:10:46 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Bill,

 I find it interesting that this was an inexpensive bicycle...cause it 
 looks outstanding. Curious you said IIRC that you planned using it for 
 overnights?

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:


 Thanks all.  I got the racks and fenders installed.  It is a lot of work 
 doing this kind of integrated install.  The rear has no frame mounted 
 stays.  It bolts on at the dropout and then bolts to the fender in two 
 places.  The front attaches at the dropout, at the crown with a daruma, and 
 to the rack platform.  Now I'm ready for just about anything.  Except now 
 that the fenders are fully fitted, now I get to take them back off for 
 pinstriping!  

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5505/12163782924_3a12bb038c_z.jpg

 http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3743/12163777364_83e0628197_z.jpg





 On Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:22:19 PM UTC-8, grrlyrida wrote:

 What a beautiful bike. You did such fine work. Inspires me to take some 
 rust off my Bridgestone.

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:29:48 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it 
 around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is 
 that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary 
 braking 
 power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the 
 racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The 
 racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the 
 rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, 
 so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.

 Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked 
 with clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware 
 store.  They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind 
 of 
 banged up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I 
 shook it.  Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of 
 clear.  It's looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with 
 clear looks lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted 
 can.  Oh well, we're making memories (as my mom always says)!  

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg


 Tons of 
 Photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157638367153736/

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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
I didn't take it too badly.

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh was Freakish a bad thing? It wasn't meant that way. Like in he had
 freakish stamina.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:20 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've been called worse.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well your just freakish.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wear wool shirts (t-shirt, jersey, polo) pretty much year round. When
 it's really hot (95F+) I like them while riding, but don't like them when
 not. Kinda' weird, I guess it's probably the lack of air movement and
 evaporation.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:07 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  I have smart wool products and liked them initially, but have since
 found them to tear a bit too easily and I'm generally very gentle with 
 wool
 garments. I love their socks though wear em all the time in any weather.

 I like the Ibex garments but I think they're extremely expensive...I
 have two short sleeve shirts, arm and leg warmers. What I've found is I
 don't like wool bike specific clothing, I can't stand rear pockets to 
 stash
 things that's why I have racks and bags for goodness sake. I love the MUSA
 SS t-shirts that Rivendell sells great price and quality, they work well
 either as a base or by them selves well above 80 degrees. Planning on
 picking up a wooly warm tweed sweater real soon.

 Disclaimer: Since I live in the land of the furnace I have come to
 accept that wool only suits very narrow times here in SoCal so the others
 obviously will have better feed back on temps below 40 degrees. Now if ya
 want to talk about hot weather clothing!!

 ~Hugh parched Smitham


 On Friday, January 24, 2014 12:39:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 The Icebreaker clothing is made in China, so no surprise it's offered
 at big discounts.  I prefer to buy US or NZ or Australia made items 
 myself
 in keeping with the Rivendell vision.

 I like the Ibex jersey's and they have sales at the end of the season
 that make the prices a little more reasonable. Their wool knickers are
 fantastic too.   Ground Effect from New Zealand makes some good blended
 merino jerseys that do better in warmer weather.

 For a really lightweight top, the Smartwool Mircoweight tops are
 really nice. They are made in Vietnam.  This place has good deals on
 Smartwool   http://www.moontrail.com/home.php?cat=485

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
The hatchet or the towel?

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought that was a petrol derivative.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:21 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Don't leave home without one.

 Oh wait, I think that's a towel.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 If a hatchet there will be then you better haul it out West.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Better re-think your agenda!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh did I leave those out?

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can be
 a part of it.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a
 February S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle 
 Man/Woman 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that 
 Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be my
 second of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming and 
 after
 such an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic with a 
 dose
 of country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya all 
 it's no
 big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's the Boy 
 Scout
 in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently and
 have nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and come 
 along
 for the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates are
 what are available for me and the times are arrival times per Amtrak
 Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
I'm glad I don't want to be on the RSR restricted list.

Can you try making this? Or is Friday too difficult?
On Jan 26, 2014 9:38 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't take it too badly.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh was Freakish a bad thing? It wasn't meant that way. Like in he had
 freakish stamina.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:20 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've been called worse.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well your just freakish.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wear wool shirts (t-shirt, jersey, polo) pretty much year round.
 When it's really hot (95F+) I like them while riding, but don't like them
 when not. Kinda' weird, I guess it's probably the lack of air movement and
 evaporation.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:07 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  I have smart wool products and liked them initially, but have since
 found them to tear a bit too easily and I'm generally very gentle with 
 wool
 garments. I love their socks though wear em all the time in any weather.

 I like the Ibex garments but I think they're extremely expensive...I
 have two short sleeve shirts, arm and leg warmers. What I've found is I
 don't like wool bike specific clothing, I can't stand rear pockets to 
 stash
 things that's why I have racks and bags for goodness sake. I love the 
 MUSA
 SS t-shirts that Rivendell sells great price and quality, they work well
 either as a base or by them selves well above 80 degrees. Planning on
 picking up a wooly warm tweed sweater real soon.

 Disclaimer: Since I live in the land of the furnace I have come to
 accept that wool only suits very narrow times here in SoCal so the others
 obviously will have better feed back on temps below 40 degrees. Now if ya
 want to talk about hot weather clothing!!

 ~Hugh parched Smitham


 On Friday, January 24, 2014 12:39:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 The Icebreaker clothing is made in China, so no surprise it's
 offered at big discounts.  I prefer to buy US or NZ or Australia made 
 items
 myself in keeping with the Rivendell vision.

 I like the Ibex jersey's and they have sales at the end of the
 season that make the prices a little more reasonable. Their wool 
 knickers
 are fantastic too.   Ground Effect from New Zealand makes some good 
 blended
 merino jerseys that do better in warmer weather.

 For a really lightweight top, the Smartwool Mircoweight tops are
 really nice. They are made in Vietnam.  This place has good deals on
 Smartwool   http://www.moontrail.com/home.php?cat=485

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
Pretty booked up :( Feb  March are crazy busy! Too bad as it looks like a
good one!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm glad I don't want to be on the RSR restricted list.

 Can you try making this? Or is Friday too difficult?
 On Jan 26, 2014 9:38 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't take it too badly.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh was Freakish a bad thing? It wasn't meant that way. Like in he had
 freakish stamina.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:20 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've been called worse.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well your just freakish.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wear wool shirts (t-shirt, jersey, polo) pretty much year round.
 When it's really hot (95F+) I like them while riding, but don't like them
 when not. Kinda' weird, I guess it's probably the lack of air movement 
 and
 evaporation.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:07 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  I have smart wool products and liked them initially, but have
 since found them to tear a bit too easily and I'm generally very gentle
 with wool garments. I love their socks though wear em all the time in 
 any
 weather.

 I like the Ibex garments but I think they're extremely expensive...I
 have two short sleeve shirts, arm and leg warmers. What I've found is I
 don't like wool bike specific clothing, I can't stand rear pockets to 
 stash
 things that's why I have racks and bags for goodness sake. I love the 
 MUSA
 SS t-shirts that Rivendell sells great price and quality, they work well
 either as a base or by them selves well above 80 degrees. Planning on
 picking up a wooly warm tweed sweater real soon.

 Disclaimer: Since I live in the land of the furnace I have come to
 accept that wool only suits very narrow times here in SoCal so the 
 others
 obviously will have better feed back on temps below 40 degrees. Now if 
 ya
 want to talk about hot weather clothing!!

 ~Hugh parched Smitham


 On Friday, January 24, 2014 12:39:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 The Icebreaker clothing is made in China, so no surprise it's
 offered at big discounts.  I prefer to buy US or NZ or Australia made 
 items
 myself in keeping with the Rivendell vision.

 I like the Ibex jersey's and they have sales at the end of the
 season that make the prices a little more reasonable. Their wool 
 knickers
 are fantastic too.   Ground Effect from New Zealand makes some good 
 blended
 merino jerseys that do better in warmer weather.

 For a really lightweight top, the Smartwool Mircoweight tops are
 really nice. They are made in Vietnam.  This place has good deals on
 Smartwool   http://www.moontrail.com/home.php?cat=485

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: School me on wool...

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
No worries.
On Jan 26, 2014 9:43 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pretty booked up :( Feb  March are crazy busy! Too bad as it looks like a
 good one!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm glad I don't want to be on the RSR restricted list.

 Can you try making this? Or is Friday too difficult?
 On Jan 26, 2014 9:38 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't take it too badly.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh was Freakish a bad thing? It wasn't meant that way. Like in he had
 freakish stamina.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:20 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've been called worse.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Hugh Smitham 
 hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well your just freakish.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I wear wool shirts (t-shirt, jersey, polo) pretty much year round.
 When it's really hot (95F+) I like them while riding, but don't like 
 them
 when not. Kinda' weird, I guess it's probably the lack of air movement 
 and
 evaporation.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:07 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  I have smart wool products and liked them initially, but have
 since found them to tear a bit too easily and I'm generally very gentle
 with wool garments. I love their socks though wear em all the time in 
 any
 weather.

 I like the Ibex garments but I think they're extremely
 expensive...I have two short sleeve shirts, arm and leg warmers. What 
 I've
 found is I don't like wool bike specific clothing, I can't stand rear
 pockets to stash things that's why I have racks and bags for goodness 
 sake.
 I love the MUSA SS t-shirts that Rivendell sells great price and 
 quality,
 they work well either as a base or by them selves well above 80 
 degrees.
 Planning on picking up a wooly warm tweed sweater real soon.

 Disclaimer: Since I live in the land of the furnace I have come to
 accept that wool only suits very narrow times here in SoCal so the 
 others
 obviously will have better feed back on temps below 40 degrees. Now if 
 ya
 want to talk about hot weather clothing!!

 ~Hugh parched Smitham


 On Friday, January 24, 2014 12:39:49 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 The Icebreaker clothing is made in China, so no surprise it's
 offered at big discounts.  I prefer to buy US or NZ or Australia made 
 items
 myself in keeping with the Rivendell vision.

 I like the Ibex jersey's and they have sales at the end of the
 season that make the prices a little more reasonable. Their wool 
 knickers
 are fantastic too.   Ground Effect from New Zealand makes some good 
 blended
 merino jerseys that do better in warmer weather.

 For a really lightweight top, the Smartwool Mircoweight tops are
 really nice. They are made in Vietnam.  This place has good deals on
 Smartwool   http://www.moontrail.com/home.php?cat=485

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
The phrase was IIRC an American express commercial. Plastic is the
derivative.
On Jan 26, 2014 9:40 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 The hatchet or the towel?

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 I thought that was a petrol derivative.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:21 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Don't leave home without one.

 Oh wait, I think that's a towel.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 If a hatchet there will be then you better haul it out West.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Better re-think your agenda!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Hugh Smitham 
 hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh did I leave those out?

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can
 be a part of it.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a
 February S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle 
 Man/Woman 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at 
 any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that 
 Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be my
 second of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming and 
 after
 such an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic with a 
 dose
 of country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya all 
 it's no
 big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's the Boy 
 Scout
 in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently and
 have nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and come 
 along
 for the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates
 are what are available for me and the times are arrival times per 
 Amtrak
 Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] My Bike Life Is Lacking

2014-01-26 Thread Manuel Acosta
Leah, 
Yo know that saying pictures proved.. yada..blah blah blah.

Banned from abuse of your Rivendell? 
If I haven't gotten banned yet. You should be fine.
Manny

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:11:00 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

 You guys have cheered me right up! I told my husband, Babe, you oughtta 
 like these people even more than I - they've brightened my outlook and 
 spared you from listening to your wife bemoan her bike situation!

 Addison: I live in Henderson. I hear Reno is nice; my husband flies there 
 when he has business with the governor. I think I saw some of your photos 
 from your lovely Reno once, and it truly looks to be a gem!

 There aren't villages on the mountain; but a few miles down it there are a 
 few businesses (CVS, Starbucks, Postnet, etc). I've often wondered if I 
 could get back up it on my bike; it's quite steep, but maybe without 
 kids

 Joe: Good job on 10 months! E-bike is a great idea!

 Michael H: Bike racks! Brilliant! I'm going to explore that option this 
 week!

 Andy from Pgh: my sister and her husband live in Pittsburgh and are 
 looking to relocate to Lawrenceville. They work in downtown law offices and 
 would become bike commuters! (They presently live downtown and walk 
 everywhere.) they have run into a very cool bikes-guy and talked a bit with 
 him about bikes and bike commuting, wonder if it was you? I sent them some 
 Rivendell stuff for Christmas to make their bike commuting easier. If you 
 have anything else to add about commuting in Pgh, please share!

 And to all of you who mentioned contentment in all circumstances, you are 
 certainly right. I am so blessed to have my little bike journey with my 
 boys and I am going to engage my senses more and try to savor each trip. 
 It's good to remember that everyone else does not have a perfect bike 
 situation either, but rather they are making the most of what they do have 
 and exercising gratitude on their way. Thanks again!



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[RBW] Saddle Tattoos and Hot Chocolate!

2014-01-26 Thread Manuel Acosta
Enjoy the short rides.
With the stresses of work and school. 
It's important to remember to make time for yourself.

Long ride, short rides, mixed terrain or road. all of that matters is that 
you have the simple things.
Good views, great friends, and good cheese.

Hot chocolate works well too.

Pictures Proved that unedited photos doesn't mean I'm trying to be artsy I 
just don't have a computer to edit photos:
http://flic.kr/ps/Chtka

Manny Hot Chocolate is the jam Acosta

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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread cyclotourist
Just one word: Plastics!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 The phrase was IIRC an American express commercial. Plastic is the
 derivative.
 On Jan 26, 2014 9:40 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 The hatchet or the towel?

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 I thought that was a petrol derivative.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:21 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Don't leave home without one.

 Oh wait, I think that's a towel.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 If a hatchet there will be then you better haul it out West.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Better re-think your agenda!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Hugh Smitham 
 hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh did I leave those out?

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can
 be a part of it.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a
 February S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle 
 Man/Woman 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at 
 any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that 
 Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be
 my second of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming 
 and
 after such an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic 
 with a
 dose of country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya 
 all
 it's no big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's 
 the Boy
 Scout in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently
 and have nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and 
 come
 along for the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates
 are what are available for me and the times are arrival times per 
 Amtrak
 Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must
 keep moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-01-26 Thread Hugh Smitham
Sure thing Mr Robinsontouritsa.
On Jan 26, 2014 10:50 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just one word: Plastics!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 The phrase was IIRC an American express commercial. Plastic is the
 derivative.
 On Jan 26, 2014 9:40 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 The hatchet or the towel?

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 I thought that was a petrol derivative.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:21 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Don't leave home without one.

 Oh wait, I think that's a towel.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Hugh Smitham 
 hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 If a hatchet there will be then you better haul it out West.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:13 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Better re-think your agenda!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Oh did I leave those out?

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bikes, beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a
 must.

 Sorry, if hatchets aren't an integral to this, I don't think I can
 be a part of it.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:12 PM, hsmitham 
 hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello Riders,

 Sending out this poll to see if any of your are interested in a
 February S240 in the bucolic Ojai area. Plans are for a gentle 
 Man/Woman 's
 leisurely ride from Ventura, Ca up the bike path to Ojai and camp at 
 any
 number of campgrounds in the vicinityTBD. One thing is certain that 
 Bikes,
 beers and books are on the agenda and good food is a must.

 I'm working on the unofficial S240 a month club and this will be
 my second of the year...a post of January's adventure will be coming 
 and
 after such an epic one I thought it'd be nice to dial down the epic 
 with a
 dose of country leisure. The point here is if it doesn't work for ya 
 all
 it's no big deal as I'll have a back up solo one planned...hey it's 
 the Boy
 Scout in me always be prepared.

 Thanks to Curtis McKinzie for forwarding the blog 
 pathlesspedaledhttp://pathlesspedaled.com/2014/01/rode-trip-exploring-ojai-by-bike/
  which
 helped loads in coming up with an easy peasy overnight.

 *Note:* *If your a lurking and don't own a Rivendell currently
 and have nothing planned on the dates no big deal! Just chime in and 
 come
 along for the fun.*

 Here is the Poll http://doodle.com/mbzc9mgspv9e7iqq the dates
 are what are available for me and the times are arrival times per 
 Amtrak
 Surfliner.

 As always I hope to see you all and keep the rubber side down.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must
 keep moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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