[RBW] Re: Rack Mounting Question

2014-03-30 Thread Ron Mc
thanks guys, didn't know

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:27:40 AM UTC-5, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Greg is right. The Nitto double bolts do not work with Suntour XC canti's, 
 I've tried.  You will have to get something different.  The IRD ones work 
 well, much better than the Tektro models IMO.

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest in Fenders!

2014-03-30 Thread Ron Mc
75g is light  - the Zefal stainless water bottle cage weighs that much

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:00:10 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:



 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:07:04 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 If I am reading correctly you only get the arm for 80,then you have to 
 attach your own fender.

 The ad states: *The carbon fiber strut and ABS plastic fender blade*make for 
 a total fender weight of just 75 grams with hardware. Fenders are 
 sold individually.  (emphasis added).

 For $80 you get one carbon fiber strut AND ABS plastic fender blade with 
 hardware. Each fender is sold separately! Hey, the total weight is only 
 75gs, so you know that's the biggest selling point! Good Luck! 


  

  On Mar 29, 2014 12:13 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 cool idea, great for skunk stripe, but there's more to fenders than 
 skunk stripe.  

 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:49:15 AM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:

 Like someone said on another board, charge enough and you can get 
 cyclists to buy just about anything...

 Check out this fender for $80!

 http://mikesbikes.com/m/product/bikesmart-tangent-sl-8900.htm

 Better yet, watch the video of how it worksmake sure you look for 
 the droplets.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=DcwE967IOGo

 I expect Riv to stock these next weekGood Luck!

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[RBW] Re: Rack Mounting Question

2014-03-30 Thread Ron Mc
I was looking at some photos of the installed XC cantis, and they are 
definitely made for a short saddle cable.  It looks like, though, if you 
extend the pad position toward the max, you can use a bit longer straddle 
cable and still have good braking load.  

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:06:43 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 thanks guys, didn't know

 On Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:27:40 AM UTC-5, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Greg is right. The Nitto double bolts do not work with Suntour XC 
 canti's, I've tried.  You will have to get something different.  The IRD 
 ones work well, much better than the Tektro models IMO.

 ~mike



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[RBW] FS/WTT Silver bar end shifters, XT FD as currently sold by Riv

2014-03-30 Thread justinaugust
What else would you be interested in for those Stems?

-J

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[RBW] Re: Rack Mounting Question

2014-03-30 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
As others have eluded to, the M12 canti-stud mounting method is not a 
plug-n-play with Suntour XC Pro cantilever brakes. The issue here is that 
the brake mounting bolt is recessed, while the M12 requires a flat 
platform to attach to. So you can try any brake that does not 
use recessed mounting bolt, or use a spacer to take up the space of the 
mounting bolt head.

I've successfully completed two installations of this type:

   1. https://flic.kr/p/iPMjx9
   2. https://flic.kr/p/ihitRG
   
You'll need a M6 spacer of enough height to make up the brake's recessed 
space, plus an extra millimeter for clearance. Then you can use a long M6 
bolt to bolt all of that down. I ended up with a M6x35mm but YMMV.

One complication is that the M6 spacer's outer diameter should be narrow 
enough to fit inside the brake's recessed space. Most proper M6 spacers 
have an outer diameter of 13mm whereas I found that I needed 10mm outer 
diameter M6 spacers. Essentially, I was looking more for a sleeve than a 
spacer. These can be hard to find but they are available on eBay. For 
example: http://r.ebay.com/4BrnOh (no affiliation).

The Paul Component also offer a rack adaptor kit that is essentially like 
the Nitto adaptor but with a built-in spacer. It's a bit pricey and I have 
no idea how tall its spacer is. It is designed expressly for their 
cantilever brakes that use recessed mounting bolts. See: 
http://www.paulcomp.com/rackadapter.html


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Re: [RBW] An Atlantis is Born

2014-03-30 Thread Linkbeak
Anne, I am running the Schwalbe Marathon Supremes.  I have these on my Fargo 
and have been pleased with them.  And so far, so good on the Atlantis.

My trip starts in Jacksonville FL and heads west to Jackson MS with a detour to 
the Gulf Coast for a few days.  Should be a fun trip and a great chance to put 
the new bike through her paces.

Joyce

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[RBW] From Noodles to Albatross ~ Stem length?

2014-03-30 Thread Eric
Hey there!

I'm thinking of throwing some Albatross bars on the Atlantis. With that 
being said should I use the same stem that I'm running with the current 
set-up, using Noodle bars, or go one cm longer? 

Any advice from the Noodles-to-Albatross conversion crowd would be greatly 
appreciated, thanks!


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Re: [RBW] From Noodles to Albatross ~ Stem length?

2014-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
For me (YMMV) the length between drops and Albas didn't change. What did
change was height. I went from a 100mm Tech Dlx stem at seat height to a
plain Technomic to get the added height above the seat.

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey there!

 I'm thinking of throwing some Albatross bars on the Atlantis. With that
 being said should I use the same stem that I'm running with the current
 set-up, using Noodle bars, or go one cm longer?

 Any advice from the Noodles-to-Albatross conversion crowd would be greatly
 appreciated, thanks!


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[RBW] Re: From Noodles to Albatross ~ Stem length?

2014-03-30 Thread rcnute
I went two cm longer and lowered the stem a touch to compensate for the 
upsweep.

Ryan

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:25:39 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 Hey there!

 I'm thinking of throwing some Albatross bars on the Atlantis. With that 
 being said should I use the same stem that I'm running with the current 
 set-up, using Noodle bars, or go one cm longer? 

 Any advice from the Noodles-to-Albatross conversion crowd would be greatly 
 appreciated, thanks!




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[RBW] Re: An Atlantis is Born

2014-03-30 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Happy riding, Joyce!

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:07:13 PM UTC-4, Linkbeak wrote:

 OK, preaching to the choir here but I thought I'd share my experience and 
 thoughts on my new Atlantis.  I posted here at Christmas time about my 
 custom tourer that was stolen and I replaced her with an Atlantis.  
 Everyone at Riv was amazing, all working hard to make sure I could get my 
 new bike in time for a tour at the beginning of April.  I don't have a lot 
 of miles on her yet, but I have been amazed so far at the fit, the ride, 
 the whole package.  She was only born a week ago, but in that short time 
 has been ridden unloaded around town, loaded on the trail, and commuting to 
 work.  All great experiences. 

 And talk about experiences.  I went to RBW HQ to pick her up as I have 
 family in the area.  The care that Brian put into installing accessories 
 that weren't even purchased from Riv was above and beyond.  Mark plied me 
 with so many espressos I could have ridden a century that afternoon.  And I 
 was there as the custom was being built up and got to see it and meet 
 Liesl.  Yes, the people on this list are real!  Both her bike and mine are 
 beautiful in their own ways. The paint on the custom has to be seen to be 
 appreciated -- it is really stunning.

 From Walnut Creek, it was back to Portland on Amtrak and then after only a 
 few short days with my new bike, I delivered her to Amtrak again for the 
 trip to Florida, where she will get to fulfill her true destiny as a loaded 
 tourer.

 Joyce


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[RBW] Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue

2014-03-30 Thread Roger
 I’ve been a Rivendell member since 1997. I’ve outfitted my bikes in 
Rivendell-inspired ways with many Riv-bought parts, and during the time 
that Rivendell frames only came out at a trickle and there was a year long 
waiting list for the Longlow I wanted in 1999, I even used Riv specs as 
possible on my Mercians. But I’ve never actually had a Rivendell frame 
until now.

On Friday I took out for a first ride the Sam Hillborne 62cm in Sage Green 
that I picked up recently. I built it up with parts on hand as possible, 
and it came out as Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost 
Blue.

Something Old

The first talk I had with Grant in 1997 was about how I just couldn’t 
relate to index shifting and 8 speeds – and I was indignant that there was 
9 and rumors of 10 speeds about to further complicate my life. He suggested 
a Phil 7 speed, 135 oln hub for the bike I had then. I’ve built that hub as 
both a 26” and 700c wheel for a few different bikes over the years. It 
still rolls very smoothly and, a new 13-28 freewheel cluster, I’m glad to 
bring that first bond with Rivendell on board this bike.

Something New

I’ve been told that derailers have improved in the last twenty years, so 
have current models of Deore rear and CX-70 front derailers. Sam also has 
the long reach Tektro calipers that made him possible as a non-cantilever 
bike (not that I wouldn’t have preferred him as a cantilever…). I also am 
so far liking the new Barlow tires. 

 

Something Borrowed

I had intended and still may someday use a Sugino AT crank I had squirreled 
away, but it turns out a 107mm bottom bracket comes with the Hillborne. In 
order to streamline things and utilize this bottom bracket already in 
there, I borrowed an old Ritchey Logic crank from the Vigorelli , and 
cleaned up 46 and 34 tooth rings for it. Fits perfectly! And will probably 
stay until I need some lower gears for a camping trip.

Almost Blue

Yep, it’s just got a nice ring in it to say almost blue. Also, the color 
seems equally greenish-blue as bluish-green to me. I’ll call it Almost Blue.

I’ve always liked Moustache Bars and wanted to start off this bike with 
this maligned and recently abandoned bar. I’ve found over the years that 
when I’m tinkering with bikes, they tend to shed barends, noodles, and 
especially albatrosses, in favor of Moustache Bars and DT shifters. 
Unfortunately, Sam doesn’t support downtubers, so we’ll see how that works 
out.

First ride was 15 miles of positive. I need the bars a little higher/closer 
than the stem on hand allows, and I’m not sure about the plethora of cables 
to reach through to get to the front bag (even though I like the non-aero 
Superbe levers otherwise). I also need to get that saddle back a little 
farther. 
Good Times!

Photos of Almost Blue Sam Sitting on the Dock of the 
Bay:https://www.flickr.com/photos/56856126@N02/sets/72157643167142163/

Roger

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[RBW] Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue

2014-03-30 Thread Kevin
Congrats on new bike day! Your sam looks awesome.  

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Re: [RBW] Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue

2014-03-30 Thread James Warren

Roger,

That is awesome. It looks great and makes one want to go riding.
For the handlebar adjustment you mention, it sounds like the Dirtdrop stem is 
the perfect solution.

-Jim W.


On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Roger wrote:

 I've been a Rivendell member since 1997. I've outfitted my bikes in 
 Rivendell-inspired ways with many Riv-bought parts, and during the time that 
 Rivendell frames only came out at a trickle and there was a year long waiting 
 list for the Longlow I wanted in 1999, I even used Riv specs as possible on 
 my Mercians. But I've never actually had a Rivendell frame until now.
 
 On Friday I took out for a first ride the Sam Hillborne 62cm in Sage Green 
 that I picked up recently. I built it up with parts on hand as possible, and 
 it came out as Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue.
 
 Something Old
 
 The first talk I had with Grant in 1997 was about how I just couldn't relate 
 to index shifting and 8 speeds - and I was indignant that there was 9 and 
 rumors of 10 speeds about to further complicate my life. He suggested a Phil 
 7 speed, 135 oln hub for the bike I had then. I've built that hub as both a 
 26 and 700c wheel for a few different bikes over the years. It still rolls 
 very smoothly and, a new 13-28 freewheel cluster, I'm glad to bring that 
 first bond with Rivendell on board this bike.
 
 Something New
 
 I've been told that derailers have improved in the last twenty years, so have 
 current models of Deore rear and CX-70 front derailers. Sam also has the long 
 reach Tektro calipers that made him possible as a non-cantilever bike (not 
 that I wouldn't have preferred him as a cantilever...). I also am so far 
 liking the new Barlow tires.
 
  
 Something Borrowed
 
 I had intended and still may someday use a Sugino AT crank I had squirreled 
 away, but it turns out a 107mm bottom bracket comes with the Hillborne. In 
 order to streamline things and utilize this bottom bracket already in there, 
 I borrowed an old Ritchey Logic crank from the Vigorelli , and cleaned up 46 
 and 34 tooth rings for it. Fits perfectly! And will probably stay until I 
 need some lower gears for a camping trip.
 
 Almost Blue
 
 Yep, it's just got a nice ring in it to say almost blue. Also, the color 
 seems equally greenish-blue as bluish-green to me. I'll call it Almost Blue.
 
 I've always liked Moustache Bars and wanted to start off this bike with this 
 maligned and recently abandoned bar. I've found over the years that when I'm 
 tinkering with bikes, they tend to shed barends, noodles, and especially 
 albatrosses, in favor of Moustache Bars and DT shifters. Unfortunately, Sam 
 doesn't support downtubers, so we'll see how that works out.
 
 First ride was 15 miles of positive. I need the bars a little higher/closer 
 than the stem on hand allows, and I'm not sure about the plethora of cables 
 to reach through to get to the front bag (even though I like the non-aero 
 Superbe levers otherwise). I also need to get that saddle back a little 
 farther. 
 
 Good Times!
 
 Photos of Almost Blue Sam Sitting on the Dock of the Bay:
 
 Roger
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest in Fenders!

2014-03-30 Thread ascpgh
When I needed my full-coverage VO Zeppelin fenders the most during this 
seemingly never ending parade of polar vortices, the weight of any single 
garment I wore exceeded that 75g in magnitudes and I would no more consider 
riding to work without one of them either. I am sure my current mudflap 
exceeds that by a good amount, but it is what didn't break when slop-loaded 
below zero.

Watch here for droplets. Once I saw that in the video, I realized this 
was a project carried out in the complete absence of reality as I know it. 
If the perceived problem is defined by solution, the target audience 
cyclist should just stay inside on the roller; riding outside and the full 
spectrum of tire-flung slop is going to be a real disappointment. Like 
showing up in a Speedo at a poolside cookout instead of trunks.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:08:38 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

 75g is light  - the Zefal stainless water bottle cage weighs that much

 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:00:10 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:



 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:07:04 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 If I am reading correctly you only get the arm for 80,then you have to 
 attach your own fender.

 The ad states: *The carbon fiber strut and ABS plastic fender blade*make 
 for a total fender weight of just 75 grams with hardware. Fenders are 
 sold individually.  (emphasis added).

 For $80 you get one carbon fiber strut AND ABS plastic fender blade with 
 hardware. Each fender is sold separately! Hey, the total weight is only 
 75gs, so you know that's the biggest selling point! Good Luck! 


  

  On Mar 29, 2014 12:13 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 cool idea, great for skunk stripe, but there's more to fenders than 
 skunk stripe.  

 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:49:15 AM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:

 Like someone said on another board, charge enough and you can get 
 cyclists to buy just about anything...

 Check out this fender for $80!

 http://mikesbikes.com/m/product/bikesmart-tangent-sl-8900.htm

 Better yet, watch the video of how it worksmake sure you look for 
 the droplets.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=DcwE967IOGo

 I expect Riv to stock these next weekGood Luck!

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[RBW] John Tweed Cycles in Basel

2014-03-30 Thread SMP
Hello Bunch,

I just stumbled upon a really cool bike shop in Basel, Switzerland and I 
thought I should share.  It is called John Tweed 
Cycleshttp://www.johntweed.ch/. 
 Here's a video overview of the store.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ7NvRgdFng

Enjoy.

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[RBW] Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue

2014-03-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic! Ride with abandon!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:50:07 AM UTC-6, Roger wrote:

 I’ve been a Rivendell member since 1997. I’ve outfitted my bikes in 
 Rivendell-inspired ways with many Riv-bought parts, and during the time 
 that Rivendell frames only came out at a trickle and there was a year long 
 waiting list for the Longlow I wanted in 1999, I even used Riv specs as 
 possible on my Mercians. But I’ve never actually had a Rivendell frame 
 until now.

 On Friday I took out for a first ride the Sam Hillborne 62cm in Sage Green 
 that I picked up recently. I built it up with parts on hand as possible, 
 and it came out as Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost 
 Blue.

 Something Old

 The first talk I had with Grant in 1997 was about how I just couldn’t 
 relate to index shifting and 8 speeds – and I was indignant that there was 
 9 and rumors of 10 speeds about to further complicate my life. He suggested 
 a Phil 7 speed, 135 oln hub for the bike I had then. I’ve built that hub as 
 both a 26” and 700c wheel for a few different bikes over the years. It 
 still rolls very smoothly and, a new 13-28 freewheel cluster, I’m glad to 
 bring that first bond with Rivendell on board this bike.

 Something New

 I’ve been told that derailers have improved in the last twenty years, so 
 have current models of Deore rear and CX-70 front derailers. Sam also has 
 the long reach Tektro calipers that made him possible as a non-cantilever 
 bike (not that I wouldn’t have preferred him as a cantilever…). I also am 
 so far liking the new Barlow tires. 

  

 Something Borrowed

 I had intended and still may someday use a Sugino AT crank I had 
 squirreled away, but it turns out a 107mm bottom bracket comes with the 
 Hillborne. In order to streamline things and utilize this bottom bracket 
 already in there, I borrowed an old Ritchey Logic crank from the Vigorelli 
 , and cleaned up 46 and 34 tooth rings for it. Fits perfectly! And will 
 probably stay until I need some lower gears for a camping trip.

 Almost Blue

 Yep, it’s just got a nice ring in it to say almost blue. Also, the color 
 seems equally greenish-blue as bluish-green to me. I’ll call it Almost Blue.

 I’ve always liked Moustache Bars and wanted to start off this bike with 
 this maligned and recently abandoned bar. I’ve found over the years that 
 when I’m tinkering with bikes, they tend to shed barends, noodles, and 
 especially albatrosses, in favor of Moustache Bars and DT shifters. 
 Unfortunately, Sam doesn’t support downtubers, so we’ll see how that works 
 out.

 First ride was 15 miles of positive. I need the bars a little 
 higher/closer than the stem on hand allows, and I’m not sure about the 
 plethora of cables to reach through to get to the front bag (even though I 
 like the non-aero Superbe levers otherwise). I also need to get that saddle 
 back a little farther. 
 Good Times!

 Photos of Almost Blue Sam Sitting on the Dock of the 
 Bay:https://www.flickr.com/photos/56856126@N02/sets/72157643167142163/

 Roger


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[RBW] Re: Old and New Hunqapillar Tire Clearences

2014-03-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Updating my experience after riding the 2.25 Smart Sams on more technical 
terrain.

Positives:
Front tire is fantastic! They handle the terrain beautifully. So much more 
confidence on the loose stuff than I had with the Dureme's (as expected). 
Mud and sod areas no problem (not suck you in and keep you till you die 
mud). They ride wonderfully.

Negative:
Chain and front derailleur rub for the rear tire. Clearances are fine 
everywhere else. I bent the front derailure away from the tire and that 
worked fine, but the chain line in low gear is far enough over that it has 
a propencity to rub and that startles me (and is bad from my bludgeoned 
brain).

Solution:
I'm now running the 2.1 as my rear tire. We'll see how that fairs.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue

2014-03-30 Thread Pondero
That's a mighty handsome bike, and I hope you enjoy it.  I love that frame 
color.  When I repaint my Hilsen...

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[RBW] Re: Old and New Hunqapillar Tire Clearences

2014-03-30 Thread ted
Other potential solutions may be a bb spacer on the drive side or a longer bb.

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[RBW] Re: Old and New Hunqapillar Tire Clearences

2014-03-30 Thread IanA
It's not an ideal solution, but one could move the crankset outboard a 
fraction with a longer bottom bracket to achieve clearance for the 
chain/tire.  The solution is not ideal, as the chainline may be less 
optimum, but for the investment of a longer bottom bracket (give or take 
$30 for a Shimano unit) and a little tweaking of the front derailleur, it 
would be a worthwhile experiment to run the wider tire.  

Ian A.

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:34:44 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Updating my experience after riding the 2.25 Smart Sams on more technical 
 terrain.

 Positives:
 Front tire is fantastic! They handle the terrain beautifully. So much more 
 confidence on the loose stuff than I had with the Dureme's (as expected). 
 Mud and sod areas no problem (not suck you in and keep you till you die 
 mud). They ride wonderfully.

 Negative:
 Chain and front derailleur rub for the rear tire. Clearances are fine 
 everywhere else. I bent the front derailure away from the tire and that 
 worked fine, but the chain line in low gear is far enough over that it has 
 a propencity to rub and that startles me (and is bad from my bludgeoned 
 brain).

 Solution:
 I'm now running the 2.1 as my rear tire. We'll see how that fairs.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


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[RBW] Re: Old and New Hunqapillar Tire Clearences

2014-03-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great ideas, Ted and Ian! I'll add that to the list of bits to look into 
when I have the cassette replaced in a few months.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:06:01 PM UTC-6, IanA wrote:

 It's not an ideal solution, but one could move the crankset outboard a 
 fraction with a longer bottom bracket to achieve clearance for the 
 chain/tire.  The solution is not ideal, as the chainline may be less 
 optimum, but for the investment of a longer bottom bracket (give or take 
 $30 for a Shimano unit) and a little tweaking of the front derailleur, it 
 would be a worthwhile experiment to run the wider tire.  

 Ian A.

 On Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:34:44 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Updating my experience after riding the 2.25 Smart Sams on more 
 technical terrain.

 Positives:
 Front tire is fantastic! They handle the terrain beautifully. So much 
 more confidence on the loose stuff than I had with the Dureme's (as 
 expected). Mud and sod areas no problem (not suck you in and keep you till 
 you die mud). They ride wonderfully.

 Negative:
 Chain and front derailleur rub for the rear tire. Clearances are fine 
 everywhere else. I bent the front derailure away from the tire and that 
 worked fine, but the chain line in low gear is far enough over that it has 
 a propencity to rub and that startles me (and is bad from my bludgeoned 
 brain).

 Solution:
 I'm now running the 2.1 as my rear tire. We'll see how that fairs.

 With abandon,
 Patrick



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[RBW] FS: Spring cleaning (TA, Nitto, SKS, Schmdit, Sun XCD, B+M, VO, etc.)

2014-03-30 Thread gordo
Hi all,

Spring cleaning is in full effect.  Selling off a bunch of parts in order 
to raise funds for a new frame.  Prices include shipping except for the 
dynamo wheel, fenders, and Platrack (I'd prefer to sell these items locally 
to avoid dealing with oversized shipping).  I am located in San Francisco 
and am happy to entertain offers for multiple items.  

Thanks,

Eric

The list:


1) Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 BCD MK II 175 mm crankset with 46t and 30t 
chainrings (has about 500 miles on it) - $125 

2) Nitto Platrack (all hardware is included - was used for a few weeks and 
is in like new condition). Meant to be used with a Nitto Mark's, Mini Front 
or M18 rack (not included) - $90

3) Specialities TA Pro Vis 5 Cyclotouriste crank arms 175 mm (brand new 
with a tiny bit of shop-wear; factory drilled for English threaded pedals) 
- $200

4) Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires (2) in 700x40 (a few hundred miles on 
them)- $60 for the pair

5) Shimano m324 SPD/flat pedals (used but not abused) - $25 

6) SKS Longboard fenders in silver (new in packaging) - $30

7) Sun XCD Exceed crankset. 172.5 mm arms with 110 bcd adapter, all 
hardware and brand new Sugino 46 and 30 chainrings. Never mounted. - $175 
(more info here: http://store.somafab.com/sunxcd-exceed-crank-arms.html)

8) Orignal Schmidt SON 32-hole dynamo hub laced to a 700c Velocity Fusion 
rim.  Wheel is straight and true and only has a few hundred miles on it.  - 
$225 (or $250 with light below)

9) B+M IQ Cyo (60 lux version with daytime running lights function).  Has 
about 100 miles on it and is rigged up to attach to the dynamo hub above. - 
$40 

Images of most items can be found at: 
http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/gordo2231/library/Bike%20parts%20for%20sale

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 650B wheelset

2014-03-30 Thread Jim Martin
Deal fell through, wheels no longer needed. Bummer. 

On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:15:01 AM UTC-6, Jim Martin wrote:

 Hello All:
 I am just about to purchase a used Bleroit and will need a 650B wheelset. 
 Do you happen to have a set you'd like to sell? Please let me know what you 
 have and how much you'd like. Pics appreciated. 
 I might also be interested in a set of 32 hole rims. 
 Cheers,
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto M18 or similar front rack

2014-03-30 Thread Eric Cardella
Looking for a front rack suitable for mounting on mid-fork braze-ons. The 
mounting struts should be adjustable or trimmable, so that I can attach 
this rack to a bike with a 24 front wheel. If anyone has any suggestions 
or items to sell, let me know!

Eric

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest in Fenders!

2014-03-30 Thread Brewster Fong


On Sunday, March 30, 2014 4:08:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 75g is light  - the Zefal stainless water bottle cage weighs that much


Hey, the Crud mk2 full fenders on my bike are listed as 205g for the 
pair! Thus, for one fender, is 104g or about 29g heavier  than this thing. 
But my Cruds cover the entire wheel and actually works pretty good. I'll 
take my Crud fenders any day over this contraption. Good Luck! 


 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:00:10 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:



 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:07:04 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 If I am reading correctly you only get the arm for 80,then you have to 
 attach your own fender.

 The ad states: *The carbon fiber strut and ABS plastic fender blade*make 
 for a total fender weight of just 75 grams with hardware. Fenders are 
 sold individually.  (emphasis added).

 For $80 you get one carbon fiber strut AND ABS plastic fender blade with 
 hardware. Each fender is sold separately! Hey, the total weight is only 
 75gs, so you know that's the biggest selling point! Good Luck! 


  

  On Mar 29, 2014 12:13 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 cool idea, great for skunk stripe, but there's more to fenders than 
 skunk stripe.  

 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:49:15 AM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:

 Like someone said on another board, charge enough and you can get 
 cyclists to buy just about anything...

 Check out this fender for $80!

 http://mikesbikes.com/m/product/bikesmart-tangent-sl-8900.htm

 Better yet, watch the video of how it worksmake sure you look for 
 the droplets.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=DcwE967IOGo

 I expect Riv to stock these next weekGood Luck!

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[RBW] WTT: White Ind. ENO rings, hub

2014-03-30 Thread Philip Williamson
I have: 
White Industries ENO chain rings: 34t, 34t, 36t, 36t, 44t. New, unused, silver 
rings.
White Industries Eric's Eccentric ENO hub: silver, 32h, 135mm. Used, cleaned up 
nice.

I want: 
WI ENO chainring lockring tool!
WI black 135mm disc hub (non-eccentric).
Different splined WI rings: green, VBC, double rings, 40t, 42t, etc.
More WI splined cranks.
WI freewheel?

Long shot, but these things could spend years on a shelf, and I'd rather get 
them circulating.

Philip
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[RBW] Re: From Noodles to Albatross ~ Stem length?

2014-03-30 Thread Dave Johnston
I went from 8cm to 12cm and that was too much. I think I'll go to 10cm. It 
seems when I want to be upright I want to be really upright. 

-Dave

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:05:25 PM UTC-4, rcnute wrote:

 I went two cm longer and lowered the stem a touch to compensate for the 
 upsweep.

 Ryan

 On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:25:39 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 Hey there!

 I'm thinking of throwing some Albatross bars on the Atlantis. With that 
 being said should I use the same stem that I'm running with the current 
 set-up, using Noodle bars, or go one cm longer? 

 Any advice from the Noodles-to-Albatross conversion crowd would be 
 greatly appreciated, thanks!




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[RBW] Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue

2014-03-30 Thread hsmitham
Roger,

That first ride is magical, I remember so well my first ride on 
Homer...it's only gotten better. Very striking Hillborne especially the 
white saddle and bar tape. I don't know why but I love the look of an M 
bar or Albastache. Enjoy in good health.

~Hugh

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:50:07 AM UTC-7, Roger wrote:

 I’ve been a Rivendell member since 1997. I’ve outfitted my bikes in 
 Rivendell-inspired ways with many Riv-bought parts, and during the time 
 that Rivendell frames only came out at a trickle and there was a year long 
 waiting list for the Longlow I wanted in 1999, I even used Riv specs as 
 possible on my Mercians. But I’ve never actually had a Rivendell frame 
 until now.

 On Friday I took out for a first ride the Sam Hillborne 62cm in Sage Green 
 that I picked up recently. I built it up with parts on hand as possible, 
 and it came out as Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost 
 Blue.

 Something Old

 The first talk I had with Grant in 1997 was about how I just couldn’t 
 relate to index shifting and 8 speeds – and I was indignant that there was 
 9 and rumors of 10 speeds about to further complicate my life. He suggested 
 a Phil 7 speed, 135 oln hub for the bike I had then. I’ve built that hub as 
 both a 26” and 700c wheel for a few different bikes over the years. It 
 still rolls very smoothly and, a new 13-28 freewheel cluster, I’m glad to 
 bring that first bond with Rivendell on board this bike.

 Something New

 I’ve been told that derailers have improved in the last twenty years, so 
 have current models of Deore rear and CX-70 front derailers. Sam also has 
 the long reach Tektro calipers that made him possible as a non-cantilever 
 bike (not that I wouldn’t have preferred him as a cantilever…). I also am 
 so far liking the new Barlow tires. 

  

 Something Borrowed

 I had intended and still may someday use a Sugino AT crank I had 
 squirreled away, but it turns out a 107mm bottom bracket comes with the 
 Hillborne. In order to streamline things and utilize this bottom bracket 
 already in there, I borrowed an old Ritchey Logic crank from the Vigorelli 
 , and cleaned up 46 and 34 tooth rings for it. Fits perfectly! And will 
 probably stay until I need some lower gears for a camping trip.

 Almost Blue

 Yep, it’s just got a nice ring in it to say almost blue. Also, the color 
 seems equally greenish-blue as bluish-green to me. I’ll call it Almost Blue.

 I’ve always liked Moustache Bars and wanted to start off this bike with 
 this maligned and recently abandoned bar. I’ve found over the years that 
 when I’m tinkering with bikes, they tend to shed barends, noodles, and 
 especially albatrosses, in favor of Moustache Bars and DT shifters. 
 Unfortunately, Sam doesn’t support downtubers, so we’ll see how that works 
 out.

 First ride was 15 miles of positive. I need the bars a little 
 higher/closer than the stem on hand allows, and I’m not sure about the 
 plethora of cables to reach through to get to the front bag (even though I 
 like the non-aero Superbe levers otherwise). I also need to get that saddle 
 back a little farther. 
 Good Times!

 Photos of Almost Blue Sam Sitting on the Dock of the 
 Bay:https://www.flickr.com/photos/56856126@N02/sets/72157643167142163/

 Roger


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[RBW] Re: An Atlantis is Born

2014-03-30 Thread hsmitham
Joyce,

Congratulations on your new bike...you choose wisely as the Atlantis will 
bring many satisfied miles for many years to come. Now we just need to see 
some pictures, especially when you conclude your tour. 

~Hugh

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:07:13 PM UTC-7, Linkbeak wrote:

 OK, preaching to the choir here but I thought I'd share my experience and 
 thoughts on my new Atlantis.  I posted here at Christmas time about my 
 custom tourer that was stolen and I replaced her with an Atlantis.  
 Everyone at Riv was amazing, all working hard to make sure I could get my 
 new bike in time for a tour at the beginning of April.  I don't have a lot 
 of miles on her yet, but I have been amazed so far at the fit, the ride, 
 the whole package.  She was only born a week ago, but in that short time 
 has been ridden unloaded around town, loaded on the trail, and commuting to 
 work.  All great experiences. 

 And talk about experiences.  I went to RBW HQ to pick her up as I have 
 family in the area.  The care that Brian put into installing accessories 
 that weren't even purchased from Riv was above and beyond.  Mark plied me 
 with so many espressos I could have ridden a century that afternoon.  And I 
 was there as the custom was being built up and got to see it and meet 
 Liesl.  Yes, the people on this list are real!  Both her bike and mine are 
 beautiful in their own ways. The paint on the custom has to be seen to be 
 appreciated -- it is really stunning.

 From Walnut Creek, it was back to Portland on Amtrak and then after only a 
 few short days with my new bike, I delivered her to Amtrak again for the 
 trip to Florida, where she will get to fulfill her true destiny as a loaded 
 tourer.

 Joyce


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[RBW] Re: Old and New Hunqapillar Tire Clearences

2014-03-30 Thread Will
The other solution is to calculate what pneumatic support is necessary. 

It might be that the OP does not need this width to achieve his riding 
goals. 

I've watched this wider tire business for the last year or two. It's 
interesting. But at some point, we will go too far and degrade performance 
with mass. 



On Sunday, March 30, 2014 3:06:01 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote:

 It's not an ideal solution, but one could move the crankset outboard a 
 fraction with a longer bottom bracket to achieve clearance for the 
 chain/tire.  The solution is not ideal, as the chainline may be less 
 optimum, but for the investment of a longer bottom bracket (give or take 
 $30 for a Shimano unit) and a little tweaking of the front derailleur, it 
 would be a worthwhile experiment to run the wider tire.  

 Ian A.

 On Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:34:44 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Updating my experience after riding the 2.25 Smart Sams on more 
 technical terrain.

 Positives:
 Front tire is fantastic! They handle the terrain beautifully. So much 
 more confidence on the loose stuff than I had with the Dureme's (as 
 expected). Mud and sod areas no problem (not suck you in and keep you till 
 you die mud). They ride wonderfully.

 Negative:
 Chain and front derailleur rub for the rear tire. Clearances are fine 
 everywhere else. I bent the front derailure away from the tire and that 
 worked fine, but the chain line in low gear is far enough over that it has 
 a propencity to rub and that startles me (and is bad from my bludgeoned 
 brain).

 Solution:
 I'm now running the 2.1 as my rear tire. We'll see how that fairs.

 With abandon,
 Patrick



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[RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it

2014-03-30 Thread frank_a
Also using it, and loving it!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/13526699433/in/photostream/

- Frank


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[RBW] Re: Old and New Hunqapillar Tire Clearences

2014-03-30 Thread Philip Williamson
You might also get a little more chain/tire clearance by using a 7 speed 
cassette with a spacer. Or just keep on with the smaller tire. 

Philip
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[RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it

2014-03-30 Thread Bill Lindsay
Those bikes both look dynamite

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:24:44 PM UTC-7, frank_a wrote:

 Also using it, and loving it!

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/13526699433/in/photostream/

 - Frank


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[RBW] No more print RR#43?

2014-03-30 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Howdy folks.

I have every RR from zero forward, but it looks like I may have waited too
long on the current one.  It shows as out of stock.  Does that mean there
won't be any more printed?  Anybody have an extra?

Thanks, Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: From Noodles to Albatross ~ Stem length?

2014-03-30 Thread Chris Chen
I had 10cm for my Noodles, went to 12cm for my Albas, and went back to 8cm
for the 'staches. I think those are the standard build kit lengths, and
they seemed to work for me.

cc


On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I went from 8cm to 12cm and that was too much. I think I'll go to 10cm. It
 seems when I want to be upright I want to be really upright.

 -Dave


 On Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:05:25 PM UTC-4, rcnute wrote:

 I went two cm longer and lowered the stem a touch to compensate for the
 upsweep.

 Ryan

 On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:25:39 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 Hey there!

 I'm thinking of throwing some Albatross bars on the Atlantis. With that
 being said should I use the same stem that I'm running with the current
 set-up, using Noodle bars, or go one cm longer?

 Any advice from the Noodles-to-Albatross conversion crowd would be
 greatly appreciated, thanks!


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Re: [RBW] Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue

2014-03-30 Thread Chris Chen
Absolutely loved the story. Sounds like when you change out the stem you'll
be in hog heaven.


On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been a Rivendell member since 1997. I've outfitted my bikes in
 Rivendell-inspired ways with many Riv-bought parts, and during the time
 that Rivendell frames only came out at a trickle and there was a year long
 waiting list for the Longlow I wanted in 1999, I even used Riv specs as
 possible on my Mercians. But I've never actually had a Rivendell frame
 until now.

 On Friday I took out for a first ride the Sam Hillborne 62cm in Sage Green
 that I picked up recently. I built it up with parts on hand as possible,
 and it came out as Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost
 Blue.

 Something Old

 The first talk I had with Grant in 1997 was about how I just couldn't
 relate to index shifting and 8 speeds - and I was indignant that there was
 9 and rumors of 10 speeds about to further complicate my life. He suggested
 a Phil 7 speed, 135 oln hub for the bike I had then. I've built that hub as
 both a 26 and 700c wheel for a few different bikes over the years. It
 still rolls very smoothly and, a new 13-28 freewheel cluster, I'm glad to
 bring that first bond with Rivendell on board this bike.

 Something New

 I've been told that derailers have improved in the last twenty years, so
 have current models of Deore rear and CX-70 front derailers. Sam also has
 the long reach Tektro calipers that made him possible as a non-cantilever
 bike (not that I wouldn't have preferred him as a cantilever...). I also am
 so far liking the new Barlow tires.



 Something Borrowed

 I had intended and still may someday use a Sugino AT crank I had
 squirreled away, but it turns out a 107mm bottom bracket comes with the
 Hillborne. In order to streamline things and utilize this bottom bracket
 already in there, I borrowed an old Ritchey Logic crank from the Vigorelli
 , and cleaned up 46 and 34 tooth rings for it. Fits perfectly! And will
 probably stay until I need some lower gears for a camping trip.

 Almost Blue

 Yep, it's just got a nice ring in it to say almost blue. Also, the color
 seems equally greenish-blue as bluish-green to me. I'll call it Almost Blue.

 I've always liked Moustache Bars and wanted to start off this bike with
 this maligned and recently abandoned bar. I've found over the years that
 when I'm tinkering with bikes, they tend to shed barends, noodles, and
 especially albatrosses, in favor of Moustache Bars and DT shifters.
 Unfortunately, Sam doesn't support downtubers, so we'll see how that works
 out.

 First ride was 15 miles of positive. I need the bars a little
 higher/closer than the stem on hand allows, and I'm not sure about the
 plethora of cables to reach through to get to the front bag (even though I
 like the non-aero Superbe levers otherwise). I also need to get that saddle
 back a little farther.
 Good Times!

 Photos of Almost Blue Sam Sitting on the Dock of the 
 Bay:https://www.flickr.com/photos/56856126@N02/sets/72157643167142163/

 Roger

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[RBW] Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue

2014-03-30 Thread Roger
Thanks for the kind words everyone. The Sam Hillborne is indeed a handsome 
bike. I believe I got the last 62cm in this color, with the next batch, in 
the standard blue I'm told, not arriving for a little while.

Today I went for a spin with the seat set back a little further and found 
it closer to where I usually set the saddle. I like a lot of setback, it 
helps me to balance my upper body without putting too much weight on my 
hands and arms.

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[RBW] FS 50 cm Silver Quickbeam -$1500

2014-03-30 Thread Crazy4Suki
Barely used, about 500 miles or less. Local sale only on SF Bay Area craigslist 
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4400140766.html

This is mine and I'm trying to raise funds for my pooch's upcoming surgery... 
But I'd rather find another way to pay for surgery than sell this bike too 
cheap cuz I really like it.  Can you tell I'm torn about selling? Lol

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