[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Oh, boy -- I'm so disappointed! I was looking forward to seeing the geometry on the 47cm frame size, hoping that it would be the same (or close!) as the current design and/or the Homer Hilson. No luck -- the chart says the ETT is 54cm. Way too long for someone 5'2" (at least, for a woman with

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

I'm a stickler for noise, and only want to hear the whoosh of my tires - I get offended by noise from other people's bikes. I love my Quiet Honjos. On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 9:32:32 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Knobbies seem designed to shoot gravel through the fenders. I wouldn’t

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Yeah I think this is why PBH alone isn't sufficient to size a bike, unless it's a really wide range. My wife and I are within an inch of each other's PBH, but her torso is markedly shorter than mine. Also, her femurs comprise a larger % of her leg length than mine, affecting comfortable

[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

I'm really excited about these new tires, but I thought Jan believed 700c tires this wide were less than optimal. Has he said anything about changing his view, or am I just completely confused and off base here? John On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

I disagree with the assertion that the MIT Atlantis is not intended for drop bars. The 56 new Atlantis would be spot on perfect for me with drop bars and a 100mm extension stem. I look at lots of geo-charts and I’m usually bummed at how short top tubes are. So my hope and feeling is that there

[RBW] Re: 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

This is the Nobel Prize of cycling-related compliments. Completely made me morn <--say it the way Patrick would...it's the opposite of "made me mourn" !) Lucky Bill! On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 3:46:38 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Fantastic, Bill! Well done, and a tip a’ me plaid

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

I agree. It does not appear that these frames are intended for drop bars. I'd need a 53cm frame and the ETT is 57.5. On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 8:00:37 AM UTC-4, Elisabeth Sherwood wrote: > > Oh, boy -- I'm so disappointed! I was looking forward to seeing the > geometry on the 47cm frame

[RBW] Re: 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

Thanks for this Bill! Just set my 64 Waterford Sam up in rando-mode and I really think it may be my favorite configuration of this (almost too versatile!) bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

I think it's simply that his market demands this sort of tire. And I think that there is a rather big demand for fat, supple 29er tires; I predict these will be best sellers. I both agree and disagree with Jan's views on wheel size, tire width, and handling, meaning that "optimum" in reference to

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Garth, yep, I know stack and reach. To my weird brain though, if I know PBH, and I also know the goofy "[top-of-seatpost-at-comfy-height]__to__[center-of-bar-flats-at-comfy-stem-height]" measurement on a bike that I know fits me well, then I'm an instant away from seeing whether another

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

I also need to check seat post size. If it is not 27.2 then I may need to look elsewhere if it doesn't have a long TT because I cannot use the lugged setback seatpost (I am of the stumpy legs and chimp arms variety). I honed the ID of my 27.0 ID seat tube Bombadil to about 27.1 so I could use

[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

He certainly did say that at some point. I think that was even prior to the 700x44 came out. Maybe his views have changed. Apart from Rivs and monstercross-type bikes, what else would these tires go on? 29ers? Seems like a very niche-within-niche product. KJ On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Garth, I am no expert, definitely still learning, but agree with you on stack and reach being very good indicators of fit. The note that Tom posted was good info as well. That said, have stack/reach measurements been posted for the MIT Atlantis? I may have missed them. They would be great

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Howdy Bill, I suppose it would depend on body type. My 55 cm Cheviot has a 57.5 cm ETT and I'd need a very short stem for drops. I'm still considering the MIT 53cm, which has a 57.5 cm ETT, but without drop bars. I will call Riv and discuss. On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 9:26:51 AM UTC-4,

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

a little more fender installation thought about Quiet. I just got off a beating 30-mi ride, and the only noise my International made was tire noise. Think about this. Go ring your bike bell, then touch it anywhere. It stops - you don't have to touch where it was hit. I've been told my

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Tom, The standard measurement these days by more and more frame makers is called the reach, along with the stack. Riv has recently added these to their geometry chart and can reveal how deceptive TT alone can be, let alone any 1 certain measurement by itself. All of the numbers are meant as

[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

I kinda doubt his views have changed on what is optimal for his style of riding, but I know that some folks on the internet have been asking for this tire. Also, check out how many different 700c sizes are available. Maybe he wants folks to be able to run the fattest supple rubber they can

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Hi Lester You are confusing me. You say you have a 55cm Cheviot with e 57.5cm ETT. That's not what the current Geo-chart says. Do you have a Cheviot that does not match the geo-chart? Does your post have a typo? According to the numbers on

Re: [RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

As far as I can tell if you rode an old 56cm Atlantis you would now be on a MIT 53cm Atlantis and you would have essentially the same reach (a mm or 2 less) and 5mm more stack and a cm more crotch clearance on the MIT 53cm. -Dave J On 4/10/18, lconley wrote: > I also need to

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

My mistake, old eyes, the ETT on the 55cm Cheviot is 59.5cm. Drops would certainly work. On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Hi Lester > > You are confusing me. You say you have a 55cm Cheviot with e 57.5cm ETT. > That's not what the current Geo-chart >

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

My Honjos run nicely and quiet on the streets I ride on. I use leather washers, too. But you can hear the regular bike noises (tire swooshing/derailer shifting) get “honjo-ized” as they are amplified by the fenders and gives everything a metal fendery sound as the bike sounds are all resonated

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

mine make a dull thud if you tap on them - they definitely do not resonate anything On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 1:49:33 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > My Honjos run nicely and quiet on the streets I ride on. I use leather > washers, too. But you can hear the regular bike noises (tire >

[RBW] Micro-hack: Modifying brakelever body shape for flared drops

My new Monstercross build has Salsa Cowchipper bars, which I love. The only tiny negative for me was the way the slanted brakelevers fit in my hand. I use SRAM S500 levers, which have a flattish top. With the Cowchipper bars, the brakelevers are slanted radically, and the corner of that

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

I get 59-ish ETT on my 55 Chev. 57.5 is the actual number for the not-really-a-toptube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS: Cranksets, pedals, shifters, derailleur, brakes

FC-6206 cranks are sold. 8-speed bar ends and Avid Brakes/Levers sold pending payment. On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:05:18 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote: > > Cross-post from i-BOB, lots of stuff for sale. > > Most of these are take-offs from my spring break projects, others were > just kicking

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

Maybe the flutes act as stiffners in the fenders and make it more solid than the hammered ones. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

I called Riv WHQ, and spoke with Will. I ended up ordering a 53 MIT. We discussed drop bars and he recommended non-drops and canti brakes for me on this frame on this frame. If you are confused as I was, call B4 ordering. It may save disappointment. FWIW, the ST diameter is 26.8. On Tuesday,

[RBW] Re: Micro-hack: Modifying brakelever body shape for flared drops

to make them work on his moustache bars, my buddy reversed L and R position on TRP levers 120mm stem - he has a very long torso for the long reach on this setup On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 4:05:41 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Jeremy asked if the hoods

[RBW] Re: FS: Dos Enos 16/18, Carradice, Wool

Any more info on the carradice? Is it a rack or a bag? Either way I’m interested. I could not PM, but feel free to PM me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

that may be the whole difference. You would think that many hammered facets would provide stiffness, but maybe they just change the natural frequency (i.e., pitch). No offense to anyone, but I've never liked the look of hammered fenders - though they probably age more gracefully - mine show

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Congratulations. I hope you love it. Bill On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 3:48:58 PM UTC-7, Lester Lammers wrote: > > I called Riv WHQ, and spoke with Will. I ended up ordering a 53 MIT. We > discussed drop bars and he recommended non-drops and canti brakes for me on > this frame on this

[RBW] Micro-hack: Modifying brakelever body shape for flared drops

Good job -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Micro-hack: Modifying brakelever body shape for flared drops

This is awesome. I remember being bugged by the corner of some Tektro R200 levers I had mounted on Woodchippers way back when. I also currently have a pair of Salsa Cowbell bars in the box that, while they don't flare as much as the Cowchippers, might present a similar issue, along with those

[RBW] Re: Micro-hack: Modifying brakelever body shape for flared drops

Jeremy asked if the hoods fit loose. No, they are the same, but I didn't take away much material, and also these SRAM hoods are pretty good at being snug and reaching past the brakelever body to contact the handlebar itself. If I got to the point where I worried about them being loose, I'd

[RBW] Re: FS: Dos Enos 16/18, Carradice, Wool

Dang I was about to send you a PM on the DOS ENO until I scrolled down and saw someone beat me to it! Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

but I do remember them pinging when I had them loose between bikes On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > and of course that is exactly the credit I give for mine having zero > tinniness. They've been shaped between two bikes, so they don't have any > external pull

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

Mine are Honjo H50 Hammered Aluminum. They have a tinny, brittle sound to them upon fingernail tapping, and also the bike noises sound bright and tinny resonating thru them, even with all the solid recommended connections and painstakingly in-built-stress-free mounting. -- You received this

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

and of course that is exactly the credit I give for mine having zero tinniness. They've been shaped between two bikes, so they don't have any external pull on them anywhere - so non-stressed, if I release the set-screws on the stays, they don't move - the most solid mountings I can give them,

[RBW] FS: Baggins Hoss

Now officially vintage, definitely overbuilt. $75 shipped. Bag with NOS-condition early-'90s Montague folder also available, but I suspect this isn't the forum for it (it's on Craigslist). I added Jones Loop 2.5 bars and Thomson stem on V-O quill adapter, Shimano cantis, generic Ebay levers

Re: [RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Hi Lester, What is your pbh that they recommend a 53 Atlantis? Thanks, Ed Fausto On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Lester Lammers wrote: > Howdy Bill, > > I suppose it would depend on body type. My 55 cm Cheviot has a 57.5 cm ETT > and I'd need a very short stem for

[RBW] Micro-hack: Modifying brakelever body shape for flared drops

The bike fits the rider, not the other way 'round. Chapeau Cheers, Will William M deRosset Fort Collins CO USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Micro-hack: Modifying brakelever body shape for flared drops

Nice hack, well documented to. I'm 2 days in with cowchippers/analog zero stem replacing noodles in my Saluki... Love the bars so far. Haven't noticed the same issue you note with your levers but I'll pay closer attention to that tomorrow. Care to share a couple wider shots of that bike with

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Dear Elisabeth, This is why stack and reach sizing helps cut through the mess that sloping top tubes and variable setback creates. I turn out to be a bone-stock 56 cm racing bike rider based on the CONI manual, but that ends up being a: 57, a 55, or a 53 in Grant Petersen machines depending

[RBW] Ride Report - Hops, Stomp, and Roll on the Travelo

In which I get my first DNF in a while ... photos at https://www.flickr.com/photos/ronatd/albums/72157689745793150/with/26508418747/ I posted a while back, asking for suggestions for a route from Yakima to Pendleton. A great resource turned out to be the Desert River Randonneurs, who have many

[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

I love mine. Could definitely use a polishing. Definitely getting grayer and have some faint whitish patina. They look great when clean. But when dirty/unpolished they sometimes remind me of those metal trash cans that everyone had back in the ‘70’s. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Someone in Portland Oregon needs to order a 53 so I can test ride and compare to a Joe Appaloosa. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

Lester, in your discussion with Will, did you guys talk about similarities to the Joe by chance, or were you focused on getting Atlantis sizing down? Tom On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 6:48:58 PM UTC-4, Lester Lammers wrote: > > I called Riv WHQ, and spoke with Will. I ended up ordering a 53

[RBW] Re: FS: Cranksets, pedals, shifters, derailleur, brakes

8-speed bar ends and Avid calipers/levers now sold. Updated list 1) Shimano FC-6206 Deore XT 175mm 110/74 Triple Cranks, 46/30 Willow Rings, Shimano Cartridge BB - SOLD 2) Shimano FC-MT60 Deore 175mm 110/74 Triple Cranks, 49/37/25 Willow Rings, Shimano Cartridge BB - $85 shipped CONUS --This

[RBW] 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

Hi, all, First, congratulations Bill! It is certainly worth a try, all you 200k you tire kickers. My first brevet was a 300k. I knew I had been served up with a nice Brown sauce when I found myself riding with Bob Fourney, RAAM champion, turning myself inside-out, and realizing that he was

[RBW] 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

Congratulations! Nicely done Bill! Thank you for taking the time to put together an enjoyable and inspiring ride report. Best, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] WTT: Shimano 600 drivetrain for mtb drivetrain

I'm building a guest S24O ride. I'm in need of mtb bits. Pics here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1-MzfChUMMm4jA-u3jjhmAhrLAnrsQNW1 Pm off list. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] FS: Baggins Hoss

Ack! Photos. https://photos.app.goo.gl/y3oW0pZDwZ1AC7im2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] FS: Baggins Hoss

Bag is sold. Bike is available for $325 shipped, but I won't keep bumping it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to