[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread charlie
That sounds kind of odd to me. I use a 107 BB with a Sugino and never had crank arm interference. Actually I've used three different Sugino triple cranks and one FSA square taper crank with the 107mm sized BB and no problems at all. I'll bet that bottom bracket or the crank arm is machined over

Re: [RBW] Re: S24O Report and Video

2010-07-05 Thread cyclotourist
And not stampede of irate bulls! Good times in OC! On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: René and Jim, Thank you! The camera is a Flip UltraHD, and the little tripod that goes with it was a huge help. I edited (which was the first time I ever used it) with

[RBW] Re: Paul Racer Brake Pads

2010-07-05 Thread S.Cutshall
Whatever Paul ships with the Racers is what I am running. I believe Steve P. said what they were. -Scott On Jul 4, 10:24 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Whoa, hold on. Scott, are those the Mountain pads or the Road pads   you installed there? Point may be moot, as Riv is out of

[RBW] Re: Bikes in Europe

2010-07-05 Thread Angus
I happen to be in England at the moment. A fair number of folks cycling, even in heavy traffic. I didn't bring a Rivendell with me this time, we'll see how the local cycle hire place goes. Angus On Jul 4, 10:50 am, kcwc10 kcastle...@gmail.com wrote: Greeting, We just returned from a trip to

[RBW] July 4th ride

2010-07-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Not exactly epic, but very enjoyable nonetheless: 16 miles in hilly countryside, of which 8 were climbing and 5-6 standing climbing, I did gear down to a 65 gear and switched back to the 75 for the last leg, mostly downhill. Great fun! 1999 Joe Starck custom 571 bsd road fixed gear (17 3/4 lb with

Re: [RBW] hello newbee here.

2010-07-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Welcome to the fold. Don't worry about the technical details; the people at Rivendell do a great job of steering your right. The bikes are beautiful and wonderfully functional. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Tiny Dancer tinydancer5...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi everyone! What a busy list. I joined

[RBW] Re: Question Concerning External Bearings BB for triple

2010-07-05 Thread pruckelshaus
I have a set of Suginos on my bike. A not terribly good pic here: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs534.snc3/30288_1502481239577_1160592711_31456699_5981294_n.jpg Found a product pic here: http://www.qbike.com/product/s/Sugino-RD-5000-Direct-Drive-Road-Crankset.shtml As far as I

Re: [RBW] Re: Question Concerning External Bearings BB for triple

2010-07-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
What is the Q on your cranks? On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:44 AM, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I have a set of Suginos on my bike. A not terribly good pic here: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs534.snc3/30288_1502481239577_1160592711_31456699_5981294_n.jpg Found a

[RBW] Re: Question Concerning External Bearings BB for triple

2010-07-05 Thread Justin August
Here they are in a Compact double: http://pnkn.ws/cSqNRU On Jul 5, 9:44 am, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I have a set of Suginos on my bike.  A not terribly good pic here: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs534.snc3/30288_15024812... Found a product pic here:

[RBW] Re: Question Concerning External Bearings BB for triple

2010-07-05 Thread eflayer
if you look here: http://aebike.com/model-list/shimano-b367/cranksets-t181-qc30.htm almost all levels of Shimano come in an external bearing triple config. On Jul 5, 8:04 am, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Here they are in a Compact double:http://pnkn.ws/cSqNRU On Jul 5, 9:44 

[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread cyclofiend
Few questions on this one... Does the VO BB have an asymmetrical spindle? Or are you sure that the bb cartridge is correctly seated against the cup? Are you talking about the Grand Cru or the Threadless version? Have you measured the bb spindle to make sure it is as advertised? - Jim On Jul

[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread Garth
JIS tapers can and do vary from brand to brand. Some of the tapers fit in further than others. From my experience, they can vary as much as 4mm total, or 2mm each side. Couple of things. 1. Did you measure the actual length of the VO BB? 2. Did you try using a 2mm driveside spacer underneath

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread mr.trout
that frame is clean... on my taiwanese frame the ss cluster is definitely sloppy in comparison to yours. the paints a little sloppy too. i'm a little jealous, although that is a detail i doubt many would notice. i'm sure structurally it they are both equally sound. thanks for the pics, and watch

[RBW] Gen #1 QB; What Date Arrived?

2010-07-05 Thread Ray
I checked the QB link on Jim's site. First mention of QB arrival is RR #31, but no date associated with the issue. I am trying to date my Serial #56. Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread Jeremy Till
Hm, i find that really odd as I run a VO *103mm* with an XD2 double to get good chainlines with my dingle cog. The crank is *right* up against the cup, but the machining around the taper hole on the crank does its job and there's no interference. Is this one of the newer XD2 with that machining?

[RBW] wtb: NItto Technomic Deluxe 11 or 12cm

2010-07-05 Thread ejg
Hi folks, I'm still looking for an 11 or 12 cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem. Just grabbed Nitto Noodles from another list member. Thanks for all the responses. EJG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Sierra To The Sea - 2010

2010-07-05 Thread JimD
Rode my Riv on the Sierra To The Sea supported tour from June 20 through 26. http://www.sierratothesea.org/ This ride is organized and conducted by volunteers from the Almaden Cycle Touring Club (ACTC). It was a great slice of California. Over six days we rode from Bear Valley in the

Re: [RBW] Sierra To The Sea - 2010

2010-07-05 Thread Rob Harrison
Looks like a great ride. Those California skies are intensely BLUE! Jealous The weather in Seattle just _finally_ broke today after a classic drizzly 4th of July. Rob in Seattle On Jul 5, 2010, at 3:38 PM, JimD wrote: Rode my Riv on the Sierra To The Sea supported tour from June 20

[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Grand Bois Cypres PSI?

2010-07-05 Thread Patrick in VT
On Jul 4, 9:30 pm, Dave G d.gi...@verizon.net wrote: The Pari-Moto inflation range (as printed on the sidewall) is 55-75 psi.   There is a picture of this on the Riv site in the Pari-Moto product listing.  I don't know about the Cypres, but the Hetre max is also 75, and that is where I keep

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
More pics (I'm calling it release candidate 1... guess what I do for a living?) are at: http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%203%20-%20RC1?h=f19e1c Still to go: way too much to enumerate, each smallish... all the basics are there. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 4, 7:43 

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread EricP
Very nice bike. And very nice build. My LBS just got in a couple of Hillbornes, including a 60. That one is just a single. Lucky for me, would hate to be tempted to get rid of my 56 for a doubled 60. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 5, 7:17 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread Johnny Alien
Wow! Those bars are up there! On Jul 5, 8:21 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Very nice bike.  And very nice build.  My LBS just got in a couple of Hillbornes, including a 60.  That one is just a single.  Lucky for me, would hate to be tempted to get rid of my 56 for a doubled 60. Eric

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Those bars have been lowered! Ya shudder seen 'em before! On Jul 5, 7:27 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Wow!  Those bars are up there! On Jul 5, 8:21 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Very nice bike.  And very nice build.  My LBS just got in a couple of Hillbornes,

[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto Grand Bois Cypres PSI?

2010-07-05 Thread Dave G
Hi Patrick, The difference is that I weigh 210 compared to your 155, thus more air required to achieve that fun feel :=) Dave G On Jul 5, 7:50 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 4, 9:30 pm, Dave G d.gi...@verizon.net wrote: The Pari-Moto inflation range (as printed on the

Re: [RBW] Gen #1 QB; What Date Arrived?

2010-07-05 Thread John Speare
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Ray r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I checked the QB link on Jim's site.  First mention of QB arrival is RR #31, but no date associated with the issue.  I am trying to date my Serial #56.  Thank you. I rode Alex Wetmore's green QB in Fall 05 (maybe summer?). I

[RBW] IRD 7-spd freewheel on Phil Wood road hub

2010-07-05 Thread Forrest
I'm hoping to put an IRD 7-spd freewheel (from RBW) on a Phil Wood road hub, easy as pie, no fuss and no muss. The 7-spd will take the place of a Sachs 6-spd freewheel. Has anyone on this forum successfully made a change like this without a lot of rigmarole? I just read the following on the Phil

Re: [RBW] Gen #1 QB; What Date Arrived?

2010-07-05 Thread Ray Shine
Thanks, John. RS From: John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 7:22:33 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Gen #1 QB; What Date Arrived? On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Ray r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I checked the

[RBW] Re: IRD 7-spd freewheel on Phil Wood road hub

2010-07-05 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders
I am pretty darn sure I have an IRD fw on my Phil Wood hub. Even if I don't, I can not imagine what the Phil Wood people are talking about. A freewheel is a freewheel. The only issue is how much lateral space it takes up on that side of the hub. If it threads on nicely and doesn't ram into your

[RBW] FS Nitto 177 Noodles 46 cm

2010-07-05 Thread Kentileguy
Up for sale is a set of 46cm noodles lightly used $60 shipped conus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] FS: Bleriot Frameset

2010-07-05 Thread Len
51cm. Custom dark blue metallic paint by Rivendell. Excellent condition. Ultegra headset included. $575 plus shipping. Pictures on request. Len Grossman S. Orange NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Gen #1 QB; What Date Arrived?

2010-07-05 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/5/10 10:43 AM, Ray at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I checked the QB link on Jim's site. First mention of QB arrival is RR #31, but no date associated with the issue. I am trying to date my Serial #56. Thank you. Publication date printed on the RR #31 is January, 2004 (#32 is Spring,

Re: [RBW] Gen #1 QB; What Date Arrived?

2010-07-05 Thread Ray Shine
Thank you, Jim. RS From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 9:10:39 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Gen #1 QB; What Date Arrived? on 7/5/10 10:43 AM, Ray at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I checked the QB

[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hmmm well, the crankset was purchased new from RBW within the last year or so. It had been mounted once. I used a torque wrench and did not exceed the maximum torque on written on the crank arm bolts. If the tapers are blown out, it's amazingly easy to do. I'll find out over time I guess (when

[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Don't know about symmetrical vs. asymmetrical. I can measure it when I get a chance. Wouldn't it be symmetrical unless otherwise indicated? Perhaps you're suggesting it's out of alignment somehow? As far as I know, the BB cartridge and the drive-side cup are one unit on this BB; it was the

[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Didn't measure it but will do so. Don't see how a spacer matters; a spacer wouldn't change the position of the spindle relative to the driveside face of the BB, would it? Don't know what the chainline is on the Truvativ 113mm BB; that's too tricky to measure for me to get it right. I can

[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I can see your point. Though the fact is that *mine* are incompatible, so I think the word is correctly used. I acknowledge that someone might interpret that as meaning they are known to be uniformly incompatible. But that's a reach without reading the thread, where I definitely speak only of

Re: [RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/5/10 9:25 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean at thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Don't know about symmetrical vs. asymmetrical. I can measure it when I get a chance. Wouldn't it be symmetrical unless otherwise indicated? Perhaps you're suggesting it's out of alignment somehow? Some of the Shimano

Re: [RBW] S24O Report and Video

2010-07-05 Thread Rob Harrison
Very cool! Rob in Seattle On Jul 3, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Andy.M wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9HUJtrxsk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread franklyn
I have similar experience with Thomas. I recently put a XD500 crankset on my wife's Trek 620. The crank was previously mounted on a Shimano UN54 107mm bottom bracket and worked fine. I tried 2 bottom brackets I had in my parts bin--a 107mm IRD XB-75 bottom bracket and a 113mm VO bottom bracket, on

[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

2010-07-05 Thread oldmangabe
I am putting my money on it being the crank not being machined properly. On the drive side, at the square taper interface, the cranks should be turned down a bit so that one can run a short BB spindle. This will allow the cranks to snug into the driveside bb cup without binding the crank to the