[RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

We had a string of rim failures this summer, maybe 5-6 in just a few weeks (it seemed). All were cases of simple wear, except in Eric's case, where there was an obvious groove likely caused by a foreign object in an otherwise lightly worn rim. One guy had worn out and cracked both rims in a

[RBW] Re: Trying a Foss Tube

Jim, One reason Foss stresses mounting the tube when totally deflated is they stretch very little. When I initially installed a pair on a (non Riv) bike, one had some air in and was basically impossible to seat on the rim. BTW, the Foss tubes get even less pliable when cold. After struggling

Re: [RBW] Trying a Foss Tube

I'm running a pair on my Hunqapillar with 700x50 Duremes. Followed the instructions to the letter, including their special rim tape and had no issues at all. So far, I haven't had any flats or problems but I've been traveling a lot and haven't been able to ride much. My only observations are that

Re: [RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:35 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: We had a string of rim failures this summer, maybe 5-6 in just a few weeks (it seemed). All were cases of simple wear, except in Eric's case, where there was an obvious groove likely caused by a foreign object in an otherwise

[RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

Like everybody else, I am glad you are OK. Next to a fork failure, a rim blowout is perhaps the worst mechanical failure. If you use your rear brake for slowing, you'll wear out rear rims in quick succession. Rear rims collect much more road grit than front ones (spray from front wheel). The grit

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale + After ride speical

Manny, Riding around with a christmas tree strapped on your back is decidedly un-racer-ish. You get style points for this move. -JimD On Dec 4, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Manuel Acosta wrote: Found more pictures on the cam. These include camera dueling with Mr. Harry Hugel, sample photos of some

Re: [RBW] Cycling Explained

Very funny. It hits on several topics that come up here from time to time. I agree with most of her criticisms of the sport. I guess I ride bikes and am not a cyclist. It made me feel more comfortable about the amount I spend on bikes when I realize there are folks who do spend as much as he

[RBW] Jon Grant

Hi Everyone, Sadly, I have heartbreaking news about Jon's son, Auggie. From the Caring Bridge website for Auggie: At 4:15 a.m., Monday, December 5, 2011, we lost our son and brother, Augusto Frederic Grant. He fought valiantly, backed by the best doctors using the latest

[RBW] Re: Cycling Explained

Good stuff. In the next installment, he can describe all the exotic ailments that can develop from over-training. Sort of the organ recital for the sporty set. dougP On Dec 5, 8:12 am, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Very funny.  It hits on several topics that come up here from time to

[RBW] Re: Bombadil Update and His Trek 620 Resurrected

All I can say is that I tried a set of Tektros on there first, and the spacing of the posts is too narrow for them. Actually, the old Dia-compes work and feel really good - probably even better with modern pads, which I just didn't get to. I had a set of DC 980s on another bike for a while, and

[RBW] Blug + Ebay = cha-ching!

Grant's been posting pics of some neat parts on the Blug lately. I love anything shiny with the Phil logo on it, and those CHP pedals looked way cool, so of course I made the mistake of looking for them on Ebay. I missed the first set I bid on to someone willing to pay $128 + shipping, which

[RBW] Re: Mudflap in or out?

I saw two I'm all right Jack fender flaps in this thread! I'm all right Jack is what Brit's say when something is working well for them, and it's just too bad for you if you don't benefit as well. The application to fender flaps is when a bicycle only has a front fender flap. So the presence of

[RBW] Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

Ever since I installed the Nitto Mini Front Rack on my Atlantis, the mounting rod that mounts through the fork crown hole interferes with the link wire of my IRD cantis. You can see a picture of the IRD cantis and how low the link wire sits here: http://www.interlocracing.com/brake_canti.html

[RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

It exists, I am bewildered. I can't figure out the reason for the assymetrical diagatubes in the rear triangle, or what those D-shaped braze-ons are for. Discuss, people who discuss things. http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/13791776081/odd-new-bike-p-2 -- You received this message because you

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

D-shaped braze-ons have to be anchor points for a carrying strap -- see Grant's Atlantis in the Staph Bikes post, which has one made of what looks like rim tape. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

I agree about the carry strap D-rings. Grant has talked about those before. I wonder if the left chainstay middie is positioned that way to accommodate a side-mount trailer hitch? Or, one of those heavy duty stay-mounted kickstands used for loaded tourers?

[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

How about a picture of your setup? The Riv picture shows oodles of clearance using brakes that aren't IRD. Your brake pads probably have a set of spacers that have a thick side and a thin side. If the thick side is on the rim side of the setup now, swapping the thin side spacer to the

[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

there are link wires that are shorter/longer that could help with the height. but easiest would be to use a straddle carrier style instead of a link wire, like this http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ca21.htm i'm used a similiar one on my sam h with the same rack and same brakes. that rack is now

[RBW] Re: Bombadil Update and His Trek 620 Resurrected

absolutely beautiful color on the bombadil, why did you use the marks rack instead of a mini front? On Dec 5, 2:51 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: All I can say is that I tried a set of Tektros on there first, and the spacing of the posts is too narrow for them. Actually, the old Dia-compes

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

I'm not completely convinced about the carry strap being a slam dunk since the downtube thingy splits the two water bottle braze ons. If that's what it is then you could run a strap OR a water bottle, but not both. I'm trying to take a clue from the horizontal rear dropout WITH a rear

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to take a clue from the horizontal rear dropout WITH a rear derailer tab.  Horizontal implies we're moving the wheel around, but the derailer tab implies we wont have to move the wheel around to take up chain slack. 

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

Maybe the One Big Option (mentioned in the original post) is derailleur or high end IGH (Rohloff or Alfine 11, both of which have sufficiently wide range to obviate need for front shifting, which the original post says the HS doesn't have); hence the seemingly contradictory horizontal drops and

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

Actually, we see one dt shifter boss on the right side, and the D-shaped thingy seems to block a front derailer placement. I've been expecting an IGH bike from Rivendell..I think this is it. I assume a cassette-plus-rear-derailer option will be available. You could made that with a Schlumpf

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

And since the gamblers get to choose IGH or derailleur (assuming that's the big option), a hanger-less dropout could be used for the IGH bikes? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bernard Sent:

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

The Rohloff takes a dedicated dropout. Does anyone see anything like that here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Kful_xIupDgJ. To

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

You can use a torque arm on the Rohloff with a regular dropout, but I assume Grant would not use such a kludgey solution if that were the hub -- good point. Alfine 11? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

[RBW] Re: Bombadil Update and His Trek 620 Resurrected

Why the Mark's rack? Honestly, I had one on hand, and if the rack fits... I'm sure the mini would be great too, but the MR is as solid as I'll ever need, takes the Platrack that I also use, and re-adapts to other bikes/locations that the mini won't. (like out back if I'm in the mood) Yeah, the

[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

Here's the best I could do trying to get it all in one shot: http://bit.ly/taKfSA I'll try the brake spacers. Seems like it would get it nowhere near the kind of clearance Riv show? Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.

[RBW] Re: Mudflap in or out?

Hi Minh, Yes, I bought extra draw-bolts from Velo-Orange, to keep the fender from rubbing when the stay twisted around the single draw-bolt. I moved the stays down at the same time. If I were to do it over, I wouldn't move the stays down as far, and I'd affix the flaps Kelly's. Do the Berthoud

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

If it makes more demand for jtek to make the Alfine 11 bar-end shifter, I'm all for it. jtek says they're working on it, though. Of course, I'm getting way ahead of things here. -Original Message- From: Joe Bernard Sent: Dec 5, 2011 3:10 PM To:

[RBW] Re: Mudflap in or out?

I assume my 'highwater' rear fender is one of those I'm all right Jack flaps. It's a Jack Flap. I can imagine a situation where my rear fender could cause someone an issue, such as moving to Portland, or suddenly taking up randonneuring, but so far it hasn't been an issue. As it is, the high

[RBW] Update #2; Rim Failure

Hey all -- I have added three more pix of the strange bulge found on the sidewall of the failed rim. I have appreciated all of your responses, and I hope I don't burn you all out if I ask that you weigh in on this new evidence, too. Looking forward to your responses. Here's the new link to the

[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

+1. A carrier and straddle wire works easier with a front rack, IMO. Had that setup on my Sam Hillborne with Nitto Front Rack until I decided to go with V brakes instead. But a longer link wire would also work if you have one. And if there is enough extra length in your remaining brake cable.

[RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

I was thinking more far afield. Sturmey Archer 3 or 5 speed with coaster brake. Wouldn't the brake arm end up just under the left side curvatube? So, an option between that and a 1x9 derailer option. An aside - have run a 1x9 during the summer on a non-Riv bike. Discovered a 39T front combined

[RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

Agree with Jim here - my rim failure was on a fairly new rim (less than a week old), with less than 100 miles on it. 36 spokes. Just happen to be a stone that cut really sharp and deep. Will admit to having one bike with 32 hole rims. Otherwise, everything is 36 hole. And even there I feel at

RE: [RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

I'm skeptical GP would consider the gear range of an SA 3 or SA 5 trail or touring worthy, which he says this bike is. Maybe. But the gearing Riv typically recommends for touring -- say 46-36-24 and 13-32 or 13-36 on the back -- yields a range of almost 500%; the Sturmey 3 speed is only like

[RBW] Hunqapillar sighting and chat today

This afternoon I glanced out my office window to see a young woman on a beautiful maroon Hunqapillar kitted out with touring racks and a giant basket. Well that's cool, I thought. After walking down to the bank and the art store (to buy eggs of all things), I was stowing the eggs in the

RE: [RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

But I just looked again at the left side diagatube. I think you're right. Gear range be damned... -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of EricP Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 8:47 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

Lay a straightedge against the rim braking surface. As it wears, it will become concave. If it has started to actually bulge then it should be immediately removed from service and replaced because it is in active failure mode. However, the concavity can make it look like the rim is bulging

Re: [RBW] Update #2; Rim Failure

On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Ray Shine wrote: Hey all -- I have added three more pix of the strange bulge found on the sidewall of the failed rim. I have appreciated all of your responses, and I hope I don't burn you all out if I ask that you weigh in on this new evidence, too. Looking

Re: [RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

Thanks for that link. I looked at all of those page links and the photos show damage exactly like mine. I think you guys are correct. I am going to cut a section out and I'll post another two pix or so. Still, what's with that bulge? From: Tim McNamara

[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

Not sure how important this is - but the image from Riv looks more like the Shimano brakse than the iRD cantilevers. I agree that a longer straddle wire will help - be careful not to lengthen it too much, as that may reduce the mechanical advantage, thereby de-powereing your brakes. Corwin On

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

Grant has voiced opposition to IGHs before, and nothing about this suggests this will be a dedicated IGH bike. This one appears to lack the Rohloff OEM mount, as well as the ISCG tab for a Hammerschmidt crank (HS?). No anchor point for the Schlumpf either. The horizontal dropout with

[RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

Ha! Just saw the photo of the HS. Last March, Grant showed Erin and me his beautiful design of asymmetrical seatstays. He had a bit of a rig set up and showed 'em to us over a latte. I remember how stunning they were and how he was playing with the idea. In June, when the speculation began,

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

The horizontals make me think IGH more than anything else. It's the only Rivendell bike to have them (other than custom), which is significant. What's he doing in there...? On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Grant has voiced opposition

Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar sighting and chat today

Awesomeness! On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: This afternoon I glanced out my office window to see a young woman on a beautiful maroon Hunqapillar kitted out with touring racks and a giant basket. Well that's cool, I thought. After walking

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

I think Grant's opposition to IGH is not a current sentiment. His tastes have evolved some in recent years, and IGH has grown immensely in popularity in that time as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this

[RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

I think the anchor mechanism is built into the Schlumpf BB mount... that crank is one fancy piece of engineering. And then there's the lower-priced FSA Metropolis Patterson crank, which doesn't require any anchor point... pretty cool. On Dec 5, 10:07 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar sighting and chat today

That is really cool . . . -- Forrest -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FheBJZzFnk8J. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar sighting and chat today

Philip: That's about as good as a Monday at the office could get. And she'd ridden it across the country, so the Hunq is a capable touring bike, in case there are any doubters. dougP On Dec 5, 6:03 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: This afternoon I glanced out my office

[RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

I'll take a guess that the diagatube stays have something to do with forces generated by the drive being on the right side wanting to twist the rear triangle. But that's a real longshot, considering it's not a problem on other Rivs. Maybe the natural progression of the 2TT? Sounds like he's on

[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

When I added the Nitto mini to my Atlantis with the stock Shimano low profile cantis I had the same situation. Between fiddling around with the adjustable side and the barrel adjuster, I could just get the link wire to come off after slackening up on the barrel adjuster. Kind of a pain. The

[RBW] thumbies on noodles

Building up the hilsen and I'm trying to use a set of thumbies on noodles. Running into a few issues: 1. do I need to buy a set of noodles to make the angle work to carry the cable housing down to the down tube stops? 2. I bought the 'road' thumbies and yet I can't quite make them stop rotating

[RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

but why is the hanger so short? that stubbly little thing will likely limit the range of the casette? wild speculation abounds Rob On Dec 5, 7:36 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: The horizontals make me think IGH more than anything else.  It's the only Rivendell bike to have

Re: [RBW] thumbies on noodles

My experience putting these on Noodle bars (or maybe Soba): 1. No, no need. 2. Yes, needed to shim them. Used some cotton bar tape and it worked very well. Light grey. -Jim W. On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: Building up the hilsen and I'm trying to use a set of thumbies on

[RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

Thanks for bringing the Patterson crank to my attention, it seems really cool. Except that die cast alloy makes me think of the cheap metal cars I was always breaking as a kid. Eek. Philip On Dec 5, 7:51 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: I think the anchor mechanism is

[RBW] FS: My Chris King Classic Cross Wheelset

Hey guys. Selling my Chris King Classic Cross Wheelset. It's in great shape. Silver. Maybe 500 miles? Under 1000 for sure. 28 spoke front hub laced to a silver DT 1.1 rim. 32 spoke rear hub laced to a silver Mavic Open Pro rim. Built by the guy you want to have building your wheels:) $500.

[RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

I expected a steel tube handle instead of a strap, myself. Drat! I thought the seat tube looked extremely slack, but Photoshop tells me it's a dead-on 72 degrees. Personally, I'm not holding my breath for an IGH Rivendell bike. It would be a little like Grant suddenly rolling low-trail forks. And

Re: [RBW] Video: The Post Thanksgiving Day Ride 2011

Thanks for the post Eric. Nice ride. I estimated it took you guys 14 hours to ride 140 miles. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: From last Friday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=143MqQlB1A8 Riv content: I rode my Riv-ish fixed gear Motobecane (Brooks,

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-riding motorcyclists?

After scoring a Nitto Racing cage at the RBW garage sale today, I took off for a couple laps on the mountain. It was hecka breezy out, and lots of downed debris from the trees near Rock City, making for slippery road surface. Something I noticed was that, after a few weeks riding the fixed-gear

Re: [RBW] Mudflap in or out?

I zip-tie my leather mud flap to a small piece of plastic. Old piece of credit card works great. I trim the plastic bit to just the right width so that it snaps in place between the rolled edges on the underside of the fender. This holds the flap in place and gives a clean look with no fender

Re: [RBW] Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

I've blown front tires on steep descents, due to over-heated rims (scary crashes). But never a rim itself. I agree with Grant, it's most likely your rim was compromised by a stress riser in the form of some grit on your brake pad. That, or the seam on the rim was defective in the first place. -

[RBW] FS: On the Bay, 1996 Rivendell Road Standard frameset 62cm

No affiliation whatsoever. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Rivendell-Road-Standard-frameset-62cm-built-Waterford-/260909153612?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item3cbf65bd4c#ht_500wt_1203 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Video: The Post Thanksgiving Day Ride 2011

Great ride, great video! And all in a fixed gear, wow. I guess it helps to have the train schedules as absolute motivators to get there in time. - Andrew, Berkeley On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: From last Friday:

[RBW] Re: Mudflap in or out?

I use waxed hand sewing thread (Hemingway Bartlett V-346 or the beeswax + hemp twine from Riv) and hand sew leather flaps with a straight stitch to the inside of the fender through pre-drilled holes in the fender. I've been doing it for several years in Seattle and now in Portland without

[RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

This post makes me queasy. I put old wheels on my AHH frame that I got just a few months ago. Figuring I'll save a little cash up front and buy nice wheels later. The little wear indicator isn't showing yet but the rim braking surface is well worn. Think I'll be stepping up the hunt for new

[RBW] Painter Recommendations?

my atlantis needs a repaint. and i can't afford joe bell. i can dream though. any good recommendations? thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

Link wires are available in different sizes. See Sheldon Brown's site for info http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html#ca But can't your wire slip out of the non-anchored side, to allow your brakes to fully open? Beyond that, why not eschew the link wire altogether and use a simple

Re: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

Whoa horizontal drops, 4 seat stays, brazed on derailuer hanger, it is an odd bike for sure. On Dec 5, 2011 4:31 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: It exists, I am bewildered. I can't figure out the reason for the assymetrical diagatubes in the rear triangle, or what those D-shaped

[RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

I'm struggling to understand it. From what I can tell, the mixte-like rear stays curve to connect to the seat stay on the drive side, but to the chainstay on the non-drive side. My first reaction was that this was due to the inherent asymmetry in the stress on the rear triangle that results from

RE: [RBW] Odd New Bike (HS)

I run an alfine on my saluki and is sweet, would love horizontal drops though On Dec 5, 2011 5:28 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: ** Maybe the One Big Option (mentioned in the original post) is derailleur or high end IGH (Rohloff or Alfine 11, both of which

[RBW] FS: Technomic-8cm-26.0

tall version not the Deluxe-good used condition. $40 shipped mike goldman warwick,r.i. 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried

[RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

My guess would be the d-shaped braze-ons are chainguard hangers. That might explain the dropouts and the tubing in the rear triangle. Perhaps Riv is ready to make bikes for internal hubs. On Dec 5, 3:31 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: It exists, I am bewildered. I can't figure out

Re: [RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS)

Couldn’t it be a choice between single speed and cassette? Whatever it is, it is a great looking frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

Many of you will remember, and all of you can relate to Keith Bontrager's maxim from the late '80s: Light Strong Inexpensive: Pick Two It works to some extent with all bike parts, but even IT can't come to the rescue when the thing is just too light. Do you know the thickness of the braking