Re: [RBW] Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)

2012-07-11 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Riv refers to the AHH as a Country Bike. Intended for dirt fire roads as well as smooth pavement. Lighter loads as you say. You can read Riv's comparison of the two models on Cyclofiend at the link below: (The article refers to Saluki, which is the same bike in smaller sizes as AHH)

[RBW] Re: FS: Nifty Swiftys

2012-07-11 Thread islaysteve
These tires are no longer available. Thanks for looking, Steve On Saturday, July 7, 2012 5:07:06 PM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote: One pair of Nifty Swiftys (650b). These tires have 152 miles on them. Reason for sale: I got a great deal on some Pari Motos and I don't foresee needing the Nifty

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?

2012-07-11 Thread Steven Frederick
Honestly, I don't get conversions like this. Canti posts add complication to any conversion so that's one issue. Also, the original intent of 650b conversions of road bikes was to add fat tire and fender versatility to an otherwise limited 700c-equipped bike, ie a low clearance, high BB

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?

2012-07-11 Thread Thomas Nezovich
In my case it was not so dire nor malicious. I really wanted to try Hetres and the Atlantis was the only one ( of around 10 bikes) that would fit them. Short of obtaining another frame, it was the choice. I have often thought and said that if I had to live with only one bike ( oh my!), it

[RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay

2012-07-11 Thread tdusky
Most Riv customs have a lot drop 80mm like mine a long low not built for me, but it is the best riding bike I ever rode. Conversions with low bottom brackets are not recommended see… http://www.freewebs.com/650b/conversions.htm. Rivendell models are very stoutly built, for someone at 135

[RBW] Re: Today's ramble.

2012-07-11 Thread 3wheelin
Nice story Mikei was wondering what tires you have on the Hilsen, and how do they work on those trails/pavement? On Jul 10, 3:28 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: The weather here in Portland has been beautiful lately. Downright exceptional over the past three days while I was at work. I

[RBW] Re: Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)

2012-07-11 Thread blueride2
Hi Joan, It was fun riding with you today, and I'm glad you like my AHH. I think the Bleriot has slightly heavier tubing, more in line with the Atlantis or Sam H, than the AHH. This might account for some of the ride differences you described. My very happy with the AHH and look forward to

Re: [RBW] Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)

2012-07-11 Thread blueride2
From the Rivendell website; The Sam Hillborne is the replacement for the* Bleriot,* with some differences. It's a cross between the Atlantis, our cantilever-braked touring bike, and the A. Homer HIlsen, our roadish country bike. It's a cross... means it has tubing halfway in between the two

[RBW] Re: Best 700c X FAT fenders?

2012-07-11 Thread Shifty
Patrick, In terms of sturdiness, I can vouch for the PBs by way of cutting them in half, drilling multiple holes, then riveting together to form 4 inch wide fenders! This is certainly not an original technique of mine but rather one employed by several of us fat bike owners that desire the use

[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.

2012-07-11 Thread Peter Pesce
I would check it out on Riv's say so, as they have a not steered me wrong yet. On a related note, I really wish Riv would set up an Amazon link to books they sell. That way I would be able to buy the Kindle version from the recommender and they could still get a small commission off them, at

Re: [RBW] Re: Best 700c X FAT fenders?

2012-07-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That is excessively cool! Please post photos of the naked chick flaps, too (or was that MTBR post someone else's?). On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, In terms of sturdiness, I can vouch for the PBs by way of cutting them in half, drilling multiple

Re: [RBW] Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)

2012-07-11 Thread Cyclofiend
I don't think it's as simple as thick vs thin tubes. When the Hillborne first arrived, I was lucky enough to ride one over at the RBWHQL , as well as hear what Grant had come up with in terms of design and tube set choice. It is definitely a different selection of tubes - as one would

[RBW] Re: PM to me please: Santa Monica bike shop rec.

2012-07-11 Thread wrharper
+1 for Victor at Bicycle Workshop, right by Bob's Market On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:11:16 PM UTC-7, grant wrote: For a customer. He'll get a bike and wants the shop to do final bit of reassembly. I'd like to be able to send him to a shop that can deal with, for example, a new Hunqapillar

[RBW] Re: FS: Devold Wool Boxer Briefs - at risk of imprisonment!

2012-07-11 Thread Mike
Dude, this is how zombie plagues are started. Still, if they were my size, I'd be tempted to buy them. --mike On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:30:03 AM UTC-7, Shifty wrote: According to the rivsite, I'll probably be arrested for this but have (FS) an unopened, unused *Devold Wool Boxer size XL

[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.

2012-07-11 Thread Mike
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:47:07 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: On a related note, I really wish Riv would set up an Amazon link to books they sell. Is there any down side to this, other than sending business to the man? -Pete (needing instant gratification) in CT Agreed. I love

[RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?

2012-07-11 Thread ekoral
I'm a regular reader and a rare poster, but here it goes... I've got my 53cm Atlantis set up with 650B's and Paul Motos. After ALOT of research it's really the only way I could figure out to do the conversion. My reasons were more because I like the ride of larger wheels. Personally, I think

[RBW] Sackville TourSacks?

2012-07-11 Thread Mike
So what's the deal with these? How are people liking them? Do they attach firmly to the rack? Quiet? Easy to remove? I'm sorta thinking of getting some for my Hilsen. I previously had a Sackville SaddleSack (med) but just wasn't crazy about it. I wanted to like it and use but never really did.

[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.

2012-07-11 Thread Scott G.
Reading now, Read Road to Valor, which got me interested in Italian topics, so just finished The Conformist by Alberto Moravia now reading Kaputt by Curzio Malaparte. I suggest reading Conformist, Kaputt then Valor, to end with a happy story. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?

2012-07-11 Thread Michael_S
raising the bottom bracket a cm or so does not create much of a problem in my opinion. The braking situation is another matter, if you can't get good leverage with the brake set up you choose then I would not do it. Plenty of MTB bikes have been converted with many happy conclusions. Using a

[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.

2012-07-11 Thread Michael_S
there is another book with good route info published by Lonely Planet Cycling USA: West Coast I've used data from both this book and the Tom Kirkendall and Vicky Spring book. I've only done the Northern California section, and had a great time. ~mike -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: PM to me please: Santa Monica bike shop rec.

2012-07-11 Thread Brad Gantt
Sorry Grant, not sure how to PM. While not in SM, Topanga Creek Cycles is the most Riv-friendly (and overall great) shop within striking distance. They'd do a great job. Brad On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:11:16 PM UTC-7, grant wrote: For a customer. He'll get a bike and wants the shop to do

Re: [RBW] Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)

2012-07-11 Thread Eric Platt
Agree with this assessment. Have an early Hillborne and used to own an Atlantis. The ride does seem to be similar. Closer than, say, my Simpleone to the Atlantis. Then again maybe my memory is all wrong as I haven't owned the Atlantis for a few years. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 11, 2012

[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.

2012-07-11 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
+1 for Mike's Crater Lk/ Klamath Lk idea. I like the ocean/coast ok but for some reason the inland route has more appeal to me. This Seattle to Portland through the backdoor http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/seattle-to-portland-through-the-backdoor/route looks interesting. Maybe some

[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.

2012-07-11 Thread Mike
Hey Manny, once you've nailed down dates and a route (the coast is pretty straightforward), email me. I might be able to meet you out there for a night depending where you end up staying on the OR coast. Really anywhere between Astoria and Pacific City are reachable to me from Portland. I'd

[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.

2012-07-11 Thread Mike
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:22:44 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: +1 for Mike's Crater Lk/ Klamath Lk idea. I like the ocean/coast ok but for some reason the inland route has more appeal to me. This Seattle to Portland through the backdoor

[RBW] FS: Rambouillet 58 Orange frameset plus extras

2012-07-11 Thread pb
Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58, frame/fork/Campy NR headset (Tange top nut, as received from previous owner),

Re: [RBW] FS: Rambouillet 58 Orange frameset plus extras

2012-07-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:37 PM, pb pbridge...@aol.com wrote: Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58, frame/fork/Campy

[RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...

2012-07-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I rode the gofast today after having neglected it for the Fargo and the Riv Commuter for a few weeks: sub-18-lb with new, skinny Michelin Pro Race 3s. Desperately trying to take it easy, I averaged a good 1 mph faster over the usual for the Commuter and 2 mph over the Fargo: this with a quartering

Re: [RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...

2012-07-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Collect enough anecdotes and they become data ... Sorry, The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. It's 'stories'. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...

2012-07-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Collect enough anecdotes and they become data ... Sorry, The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. It's 'stories'. Good stories, mind you. :)

Re: [RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...

2012-07-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
*My* anecdotes add up to *data*. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Collect enough anecdotes and they become data

Re: [RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...

2012-07-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: *My* anecdotes add up to *data*. You guys have all the best anecdotes out there in the west! :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this

Re: [RBW] FS: Rambouillet 58 Orange frameset plus extras

2012-07-11 Thread pb
Gang, my Rambouillet has found its new home. Seth -- thank you! I'll look into it. Cheers, Peter On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:39:59 PM UTC-7, Seth Vidal wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:37 PM, pb wrote: Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I

[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58 Orange frameset plus extras

2012-07-11 Thread pb
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:37:32 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58,

[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.

2012-07-11 Thread pb
To complement our trip to Normandy last spring, I'm reading Citizens of London, about American diplomats etc who lived in London during WWII -- strongly recommended if you'd like to know more than jingoist movies teach us about the history of US involvement in that war. Accessible, well

[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.

2012-07-11 Thread dougP
Manny: A week and a half is way too fast for Seattle to the Bay Area. Depending on routing and whether or not you visit the San Juan Islands, a week goes by quickly in Washington, and the Oregon coast is most of another week. The border to the Bay Area is worthy of 5-6 days as well. This

[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.

2012-07-11 Thread dougP
I recently finished Joe Parkin's A Dog in a Hat. It's an interesting corollary to Just Ride, in that it's a detailed journal from inside pro bike racing in Europe and does not paint the picture as especially flattering or heroic. Actually seems quite a grim life. Intro by Bob Roll, begins I did

[RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay

2012-07-11 Thread ted
Peter, I have an ~1980 Gios race bike that I like a lot and is about as light as steel bikes get (light frame, light parts). Love that bike. Thanks to you, I also have a lovely 56 AHH currently sporting GB Cypres tires on velocity budget riv wheels. Love that bike too. Now the AHH is certainly

[RBW] Re: PM to me please: Santa Monica bike shop rec.

2012-07-11 Thread Tony Lockhart
+1 on Topanga Creek Cycles. They're super down to earth and they have a good shop. On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:33:25 PM UTC-7, Brad Gantt wrote: Sorry Grant, not sure how to PM. While not in SM, Topanga Creek Cycles is the most Riv-friendly (and overall great) shop within striking

Re: [RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay

2012-07-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
Maybe it's time to give up on him, tell him what he wants is a top of the line Domane with carbon wheels and tubular tires, and he should stop wasting his time looking at heavy old steel bikes. On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 16:01 -0700, ted wrote: If he wants to try an alternative to the weight weeny

Re: [RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay

2012-07-11 Thread Joe Bernard
It's not at all clear to me why he thinks a custom Rivendell Road frame would be appreciably lighter than a production Riv. You either want a Rivendell design or you don't. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:56:52 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: Maybe it's time to give

[RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay

2012-07-11 Thread rcnute
FWIW the ebay seller is a good dude with a lot of nice bikes. I think it should be left as 700c. Ryan On Jul 10, 7:53 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: So a friend of mine (seriously, not me!) wants to know if this custom on ebay will take a 650b/hetre conversion. I am not too

Re: [RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay

2012-07-11 Thread Peter Morgano
He would like that, haha! But he is a good riding buddy because he is always up for some nice midnight rides which is the only real time that is nice to ride around brooklyn in the summer I find. Like I said, he just needs to see that a bike can be both practical and fast. It does get old when

[RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay

2012-07-11 Thread William
Back to the OP. To check any old steel bike for Hetre clearance you usually run out of room behind the BB, between the chainstays. Just glancing at the photos, my honest guess is 'no freaking way'. Maybe you could go pari motos, but even that might need some stay squishing. Have the seller

[RBW] Re: Today's ramble.

2012-07-11 Thread Michael_S
Every summer I see Mike's and others pictures of beautiful green forests and wonderful rides and I think I should move to Portland... and then winter comes and I change my mind. and maybe I'm in the minority but I wish Grant would talk less about the low carb diet and just ride. ~mike

Re: [RBW] Sackville TourSacks?

2012-07-11 Thread René Sterental
I have a set of gray ones I used for a while but found I wasn't really in love with them. For me, the concern is that since there is no zipper or bag closure (like on the Carradice saddlebags) to close before closing the flap, dust from dirt trails gets inside. Also, their shape is not really

[RBW] Re: WTB: Mark's Rack

2012-07-11 Thread franklyn
I have one with all the hardwares; in excellent cosmetic shape, willing to sell straight up or trade with an M12 or VO Pass Hunter (integrated decaleur preferred) rack. Franklyn On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:26:54 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: Mine is sold. On Monday, July 9, 2012 10:58:52 PM

RE: [RBW] Re: WTB: Mark's Rack

2012-07-11 Thread Marc Schwartz
Franklyn, I am willing to trade an M12 for it even-up . Please contact me at mschw...@nmsu.edu if interested. Thanks, Marc From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of franklyn [sini...@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: Today's ramble.

2012-07-11 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Pretty much every time you post a trip report, Mike, I add another place to my list. Even if it's a place I've been I feel like your pics capture something I missed when I was there. --Andy On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:28:44 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: The weather here in Portland has been

[RBW] Mid-week s24o

2012-07-11 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Most of my camping trips are closer to 36 than 24 hours, but this was a mid-week quickie. My going was contingent upon getting home before work on Wednesday. I woke with the sun and was rolling 20 minutes later. It was sort of fun to be coming home from camping when everyone else on the road

RE: [RBW] Re: WTB: Mark's Rack

2012-07-11 Thread Scot Brooks
Looks like I'll be getting exactly what I need from a very accommodating group member. Thanks for the replies, everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Mid-week s24o

2012-07-11 Thread Mike
I've ridden by Dodge Park so many times. It looks like a nice close by place for just this kind of trip. We gotta coordinate something for going out to Alder Flat where Ed took us earlier this year. --mike On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:54:55 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Most of my

[RBW] Re: Today's ramble.

2012-07-11 Thread Mike
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:17:29 PM UTC-7, 3wheelin wrote: Nice story Mikei was wondering what tires you have on the Hilsen, and how do they work on those trails/pavement? I'm running standard Schwalbe Marathons 700x35. I really like them for all around riding. I wish they hadn't