[RBW] Re: In praise of gloves
Most of the spills I have taken have been at slow speeds and near the end of a ride in very hot weather, which is exactly the moment we are least attentive. I'm glad to read that you are fundamentally OK. I always wear gloves and always keep my thumbs hooked on the bars or hoods. Michael On Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:45:54 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: This morning, instead of going over the old-time jam I usually attend, decided to head down to Jim Thill's shop for the Saturday morning ride. Was a nice, relaxing ride with a great breakfast stop at Seward Cafe in Minneapolis. What was left of the group decided to do some exploring. Rode over to the Prospect Park water tower (aka witch hat tower) in Minneapolis, MN. Everything was fine, and I even found a shortcut to avoid a busy stretch of road. Just as we get to the tower, I start riding on a path with a couple friends. Well, my SimpleOne decides to drift right off the path, I correct and next thing you know, wham! Down on the ground. Left knee really skinned. Hands stunned and left side hurting. Yeah, was dumb and put the left hand out just like you're not supposed to do. Luckily no collarbone break. Hands still hurting 10 hours later, but the Rivendell summer gloves did their job. Prevented serious road rash. So I should be able to attend the music festival later next week and play guitar for hours and hours backing up fiddles and banjos. What was really bad is this took place at about 6 mph. Definitely feeling old and dumb tonight. Except for a slightly shifted brake lever, the SimpleOne had no issues. In fact, got me back to the shop where the ride started without any complaint. It's a lot tougher than I am. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JH9JuCE6ZpgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Old-school 200k Frankfort to the Grand Traverse Light and back
Thanks for sharing! I was on the other side of the bayhttp://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2012/07/exotic-places.html just the week before. It's all very beautiful coastline. I've been meaning to ride on the peninsula for a while, now I may go up for the Harvest Tour next month. Marc On Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:05:13 PM UTC-4, Lynne Fitz wrote: I took Bleriot along on summer vacation in Michigan, and scouted out a new 281km permanent route. This was old-school - subsisting on food I found along the way. Given my strangely picky stomach and proclivity to bonk, it still worked out well, even on such a hot, humid day. Of course, there is nothing wrong with a root beer float :-) Bleriot at Glen Lake: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/7645495628/ And a wordier writeup: http://lynnerides.blogspot.com/2012/07/frankfort-to-grand-traverse-lighthouse.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dh0gBr7kJ9QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of gloves
Jay, Mainly play acoustic guitar, although dabble in a few other instruments. My main interest is old-time string-band music, although am starting to learn cajun backup. Otherwise am glad to have gotten through the accident with not too much damage. Could have easily had a collarbone or wrist go snap. In fact, am contemplating a ride later today. But it will be on my upright bar bike and very leisurely. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: Glad your hands are alright. I wear gloves most of the time for just that reason. What do you play? On Aug 4, 10:26 pm, Tom M tommil...@me.com wrote: I do like those gloves. When the weather starts to get cold, I wear silk liners under them. Glad your injuries weren't any worse. --Tom On Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:45:54 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: This morning, instead of going over the old-time jam I usually attend, decided to head down to Jim Thill's shop for the Saturday morning ride. Was a nice, relaxing ride with a great breakfast stop at Seward Cafe in Minneapolis. What was left of the group decided to do some exploring. Rode over to the Prospect Park water tower (aka witch hat tower) in Minneapolis, MN. Everything was fine, and I even found a shortcut to avoid a busy stretch of road. Just as we get to the tower, I start riding on a path with a couple friends. Well, my SimpleOne decides to drift right off the path, I correct and next thing you know, wham! Down on the ground. Left knee really skinned. Hands stunned and left side hurting. Yeah, was dumb and put the left hand out just like you're not supposed to do. Luckily no collarbone break. Hands still hurting 10 hours later, but the Rivendell summer gloves did their job. Prevented serious road rash. So I should be able to attend the music festival later next week and play guitar for hours and hours backing up fiddles and banjos. What was really bad is this took place at about 6 mph. Definitely feeling old and dumb tonight. Except for a slightly shifted brake lever, the SimpleOne had no issues. In fact, got me back to the shop where the ride started without any complaint. It's a lot tougher than I am. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Suitable V-brake arm length for newer, longer Bombadil fork
Hi everyone, I got fed up of the CR-720s on my Bombadil (late 2011, with the new fork crown with extra clearance and long fork blades), so I decided to try V-brakes instead. I was concerned that the Nitto Mini rack would interfere with the cable at the fork crown. I thought I'd post here in case anyone is searching in The Future: The cable for Shimano V-brakes with 107 mm arms passes *under* the hole in the fork crown, and therefore coexists in harmony with the rack strut. Picture here http://bit.ly/NZSDlL. Enjoy the rest of your weekends, Tom, in rainy Germany. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WVz5g7yroVwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of gloves
I was reminded how important it is to have gloves the other night. I took my 7 yo son and 12 yo daughter on an off-road ride (in the scenic George Wyth park in Cedar Falls, IA for those who care) In any case, my son went down and one hand was covered with about 10 really nasty slivers. About 45 minutes later at home we tried to remove as many as we could. Many tears laterwe had only half of the tiny buggers out. Dad, why did you let me ride with out my gloves Oh the guilt!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/umNKZSOXcxUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of gloves
Eric -- OWW! Having known my share of road rash over the years I get it. The last time Sweetie and I traveled to the Bay Area we stopped in at Riv HQ to kidnap Grant for a lunch break (he doesn't always take them). Before we left I bought something like nine pairs of the small-sized summer gloves on closeout (we wear the same size glove). As someone who works with her hands (fixing bikes and playing guitar) I would be lost without my padded gloves. Hope you heal quickly and that the road rash isn't too awful. --Beth in PDX On Saturday, August 4, 2012 6:45:54 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote: [snip] Hands still hurting 10 hours later, but the Rivendell summer gloves did their job. Prevented serious road rash. So I should be able to attend the music festival later next week and play guitar for hours and hours backing up fiddles and banjos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/I02CfJGxv_4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] In praise of gloves
Eric is tougher than he lets on! He and his Simpleone, which is a lovely bike by the way, had no trouble going down the road on the return leg of the ride, despite the earlier adversity. I hear that the average cyclist crashes every 3700 miles. Must be a relief to Eric to now have half a year of crash-free riding ahead of him! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ccapPecEUZ4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] In praise of gloves
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I hear that the average cyclist crashes every 3700 miles. Must be a relief to Eric to now have half a year of crash-free riding ahead of him! I tried to include a thought like that in my private message to Eric but however I said it, it sounded like it might be a jinx, so I left it out. You said it right. Also, I am about due, except, of course, for the crash-proof guarantee that came with my Bosco bars. Thanks Nitto and RBW. -jb -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shimano CX70s
If you mean the cx70 it looks like the non standard pad holders take normal road pads. You probably want to ask riv, or perhaps someone here has em and will pipe in, to be sure. Anyway if the pads are standard short/road ones you can still swap em out for your preferred salmon pad. On Aug 4, 10:26 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone running the new Shimano CS70 canti brakes? They look interesting with the linear springs but the pads don't seem to be standard. I would hate to give up on my salmon koolstop pads. They are about half the price of Pauls and might be a good option. Any thoughts? Ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/riding-fast-is-fun/ I personally -- to quote one commentator -- would rather stab myself in the eye than ride 600 km, but this little essay has some good points about the joy of riding fast, but on intelligent bikes. Several RBW references in the correspondence, too. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of gloves
Sorry that you had that accident, but I appreciate your post about the protection afforded by wearing your cycling gloves. I always wear cycling gloves, both for an anticipated safety advantage and the additional cushioning effect from the handlebars. I think one of the situations that is often neglected in bicycle safety is that accidents sufficient to cause injury don't have to occur at higher speeds. As you've noted, the speed you were traveling was only about 6 mph. Falling from a bicycle, even at almost a standing speed can certainly cause injury and it doesn't take much speed to amplify the forces involved in any fall. They're called accidents for a reason, you can't necessarily avoid them and the consequences can be serious. Personal safety should always be a consideration when riding, and any reasonable actions possible to ameliorate injury should be taken seriously. Signing off the soapbox Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 4, 6:45 pm, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: This morning, instead of going over the old-time jam I usually attend, decided to head down to Jim Thill's shop for the Saturday morning ride. Was a nice, relaxing ride with a great breakfast stop at Seward Cafe in Minneapolis. What was left of the group decided to do some exploring. Rode over to the Prospect Park water tower (aka witch hat tower) in Minneapolis, MN. Everything was fine, and I even found a shortcut to avoid a busy stretch of road. Just as we get to the tower, I start riding on a path with a couple friends. Well, my SimpleOne decides to drift right off the path, I correct and next thing you know, wham! Down on the ground. Left knee really skinned. Hands stunned and left side hurting. Yeah, was dumb and put the left hand out just like you're not supposed to do. Luckily no collarbone break. Hands still hurting 10 hours later, but the Rivendell summer gloves did their job. Prevented serious road rash. So I should be able to attend the music festival later next week and play guitar for hours and hours backing up fiddles and banjos. What was really bad is this took place at about 6 mph. Definitely feeling old and dumb tonight. Except for a slightly shifted brake lever, the SimpleOne had no issues. In fact, got me back to the shop where the ride started without any complaint. It's a lot tougher than I am. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Complaints about bad roads
I just last week got back from a 2500 mile tour, Mexico to Canada via the Sierra and the Cascades. Once again, as often happens, my riding companions sometimes complained that about rough roads. And once again, in the main I didn't notice the roads being rough, although the dirt detours that I took a time or two and my companions didn't were pretty bumpy in places. I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes (Surly LHT, Co-Motion Americano, other touring bikes) with reasonable touring tires (mostly Schwalbe Marathons, one guy had Vittoria Randonneurs I think). Why are these fragile flowers noticing bad roads when I don't? What are they doing wrong, that they're riding touring bikes and complaining about chipseal? When I ride at home on unloaded bikes, my friends sometimes complain about bad roads when I don't, but I chalk that up to their insistence in riding 25 mm tires pumped up to 120 pounds while I'm happy on my Roadeo with 28 mm tires. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 12:57 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes (Surly LHT, Co-Motion Americano, other touring bikes) with reasonable touring tires (mostly Schwalbe Marathons, one guy had Vittoria Randonneurs I think). Why are these fragile flowers noticing bad roads when I don't? What are they doing wrong, that they're riding touring bikes and complaining about chipseal? What tire pressure are they using? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
I get acceptably comfortable tire performance from skinny, little 650Cx22 mm Michelin Pro Race 3s (or whatever) at roughly 85/90 under my 175 lb on smooth-down-to-mediocre roads. The 559X32 mm Kojaks on another bike are extremely plush at 50/60, 55/65 or so under grocery loads. My fattest, 60+ mm Big Apples generally stay at sub-15/sub20 on pavement as on dirt. I guess your friends are inflating their tires too hard. Can you post photos of your tour? On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I just last week got back from a 2500 mile tour, Mexico to Canada via the Sierra and the Cascades. Once again, as often happens, my riding companions sometimes complained that about rough roads. And once again, in the main I didn't notice the roads being rough, although the dirt detours that I took a time or two and my companions didn't were pretty bumpy in places. I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes (Surly LHT, Co-Motion Americano, other touring bikes) with reasonable touring tires (mostly Schwalbe Marathons, one guy had Vittoria Randonneurs I think). Why are these fragile flowers noticing bad roads when I don't? What are they doing wrong, that they're riding touring bikes and complaining about chipseal? When I ride at home on unloaded bikes, my friends sometimes complain about bad roads when I don't, but I chalk that up to their insistence in riding 25 mm tires pumped up to 120 pounds while I'm happy on my Roadeo with 28 mm tires. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
My guess is that they don't like riding on rough roads. I know plenty of people who would rather die than ride on a gravel road. Me, as long as I'm riding my bike I don't care. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 12:57 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes (Surly LHT, Co-Motion Americano, other touring bikes) with reasonable touring tires (mostly Schwalbe Marathons, one guy had Vittoria Randonneurs I think). Why are these fragile flowers noticing bad roads when I don't? What are they doing wrong, that they're riding touring bikes and complaining about chipseal? What tire pressure are they using? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Where did the spring go? Where did my hormones go? Where did my energy go? Where did my go go? Where did the pleasure go? Where did my hair go? -- Ray Davies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
What tire pressure are they using? That's my guess, that they were inflating their tires too much. But the bizarre thing is that my suggestions that they reduce their tire pressure went unheeded. They imagined that they would go faster with harder tires, though I think that's incorrect on roads that are bumpy. Perhaps harder tires really are faster on chipseal than softer tires, and I guess that's a tradeoff that they were willing to make. On my touring bike, I couldn't tell the difference between chipseal and the world's smoothest road. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
Can you post photos of your tour? I don't take photos. I love seeing other people's pictures of tours, but I don't take pictures myself. (So I guess I can't prove the tour happened.) -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shimano CX70s
The CX-70s come with Mavic sourced rim destroying pads. Koolstop Shimano pattern road pads fit fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/C2qXgx2uFkEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads
When did 1.5s get to be fat tires on Riv list ? I was under the impression that decent tires started at 42mm Anything smaller was for little French guys in Le Tour. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sRsv0J2na_EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
I believe you, and even sympathize. Would have liked to participate vicariously via photos, though. Anecdote: once, long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away, on a cross-country auto trip with four guys (biggish) in a 1972 Toyta Celica (small), we'd rotate drivers every 2 hours, clockwise. One guy wanted to stop every 3 miles to take photos -- he also insisted on driving 55. Annoying on both accounts. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Can you post photos of your tour? I don't take photos. I love seeing other people's pictures of tours, but I don't take pictures myself. (So I guess I can't prove the tour happened.) -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 13:16 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: What tire pressure are they using? That's my guess, that they were inflating their tires too much. But the bizarre thing is that my suggestions that they reduce their tire pressure went unheeded. They imagined that they would go faster with harder tires, though I think that's incorrect on roads that are bumpy. And afraid of pinch flats, said fear being made doubly worse by awareness of the extra weight of a touring load, and the extra trouble presented by luggage when fixing a flat. Perhaps harder tires really are faster on chipseal than softer tires, We know better. and I guess that's a tradeoff that they were willing to make. On my touring bike, I couldn't tell the difference between chipseal and the world's smoothest road. Agreed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 13:32 -0700, Scott G. wrote: When did 1.5s get to be fat tires on Riv list ? I was under the impression that decent tires started at 42mm Anything smaller was for little French guys in Le Tour. When you are a wee slip of a thing, like Anne, for example, a 38mm tire is pretty huge. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
Hi Ann, Them simply complaining about the dirt roads is not enough to get an answer to your question. Find out what it is about riding off pavement that bothers them? Know what I mean? Saddle discomfort, neck and shoulder strain, feeling of being less in control, requires too much attention to be able to look around, can't relax into it, person who always needs something to complain about or maybe just making conversation about the obvious? I seek out dirt at fairly low speeds but my specific problem on other than smooth surfaces is the arthritis in my left hand, thumb and wrist, something no one could guess if they were not aware that I have it. I have got around it partially by switching from drop bars (Noodles) to more upright Boscos and other bars like that. With less weight on my hands the bouncing and jerking of the bars does not get that left wrist as upset. Also, I use Bayer Back and Body pills (fairly inexpensive) when needed. When my wrist begins to hurt in a way that I know is not going to go away for a while I know then that I have had enough. I am usually on some kind of Schwalbe that is at least 2 inches wide. Marathon Supremes, Big Apples, Fat Frank, etc. I believe that helps me a lot even on pavement. -jb On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I just last week got back from a 2500 mile tour, Mexico to Canada via the Sierra and the Cascades. Once again, as often happens, my riding companions sometimes complained that about rough roads. And once again, in the main I didn't notice the roads being rough, although the dirt detours that I took a time or two and my companions didn't were pretty bumpy in places. I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes (Surly LHT, Co-Motion Americano, other touring bikes) with reasonable touring tires (mostly Schwalbe Marathons, one guy had Vittoria Randonneurs I think). Why are these fragile flowers noticing bad roads when I don't? What are they doing wrong, that they're riding touring bikes and complaining about chipseal? When I ride at home on unloaded bikes, my friends sometimes complain about bad roads when I don't, but I chalk that up to their insistence in riding 25 mm tires pumped up to 120 pounds while I'm happy on my Roadeo with 28 mm tires. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads
I agree with everyone about air pressure. I shipped my bike tomA Alaska and when I went to get the bike they had inflated my 700z50's to 60 psi. Because that was max inflation listed on the side. I notice most everyone on the tour riding gravel was riding almost mad pressure and weren't comfortable reducing that pressure. Kelly On Sunday, August 5, 2012 2:57:01 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: I just last week got back from a 2500 mile tour, Mexico to Canada via the Sierra and the Cascades. Once again, as often happens, my riding companions sometimes complained that about rough roads. And once again, in the main I didn't notice the roads being rough, although the dirt detours that I took a time or two and my companions didn't were pretty bumpy in places. I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes (Surly LHT, Co-Motion Americano, other touring bikes) with reasonable touring tires (mostly Schwalbe Marathons, one guy had Vittoria Randonneurs I think). Why are these fragile flowers noticing bad roads when I don't? What are they doing wrong, that they're riding touring bikes and complaining about chipseal? When I ride at home on unloaded bikes, my friends sometimes complain about bad roads when I don't, but I chalk that up to their insistence in riding 25 mm tires pumped up to 120 pounds while I'm happy on my Roadeo with 28 mm tires. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hx-OyZvAnMQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
Yes, a great conversation in the comments. I personally thought Jan's suggestion of a 665b version of the Roadeo was an excellent idea. What a bike that would be! Aaron Y Vancouver, WA On Sunday, August 5, 2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/riding-fast-is-fun/ I personally -- to quote one commentator -- would rather stab myself in the eye than ride 600 km, but this little essay has some good points about the joy of riding fast, but on intelligent bikes. Several RBW references in the correspondence, too. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads
Everyone's perspective is different . What's okay to one is he!! to another . Neither perspective is right or wrong just different based on their life's experience. That's just it ... no two riders can EVER experience the same thing the same way ! I say ... help them if they ask but don't let their negative experience become yours ... unless you want to of course ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TlwvYt7funMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS or Trade. Bars, Stems, Fisher frame, etc.
Hello Bob'ers. Few parts FS (or trade). Includes shipping. *Make an offer. Will take $5 off shipping every time you combine.* Nitto Dirt Drop Bar RM013. 48 cm at its widest. $50 Nitto Grand Randonneur Bar 135. 42 to 45 mm flare. $45 Titec J-bar. 31.8. 660 mm. Profile Design Quill Stem 90 deg. 60 mm. $10 Nitto Technomic. Quill Stem 90 mm. $40 Race Face Stem. 31.8 95 mm. 10 d? $10 Easton EA50 stem. 31.8. 90 mm. 20 d.$10 Easton EA50 stem. 25.4 120 mm. 10 d?.$10 Felt 1.1 stem. 31.8. 120 mm. 10 d? $10 Thomson stem. 25.4 120 mm. 15d. $30 Forte Threadless Stem adapter. $10 Rawland Fork canti-post. Original 50 mm rake. 11 in steerer with star nut. $50 Sette seat clamp. 31.8. $5. Salsa seat post clamp. Black. 30.6 $10 Selle Anatomica Titanio. Black. Copper rivets. $50. XTR Rear Derailleur. $30 Gary Fisher 700c cross / hybrid frame. Deep purple, groovy. 19 frame. 22 inch top tube. 22.5 eff measured by my hand. Would make a great commuter. $80. IRD XCPro 650b folding tire. 2.1. $20 Shock seatpost. 27.2. mm. $10 http://www.flickr.com/photos/27162106@N06/sets/72157630919253084/ Looking for 48 mm Noodle Bar. BB7 Mountain brakes. 9 speed down tube shifters. Brooks Swallow. Contact me off list. tinoc...@gmail.com Cheers! Tino Chicago. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
Perhaps it could go to 650b in the smaller sizes (like on the Hillsen) but I fear they wouldn't sell that many. The Rodeo is targeted at club racer riding, and for that it sorta makes sense to have the same size wheels as everybody else. On Aug 5, 2:24 pm, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, a great conversation in the comments. I personally thought Jan's suggestion of a 665b version of the Roadeo was an excellent idea. What a bike that would be! Aaron Y Vancouver, WA On Sunday, August 5, 2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/riding-fast-is-fun/ I personally -- to quote one commentator -- would rather stab myself in the eye than ride 600 km, but this little essay has some good points about the joy of riding fast, but on intelligent bikes. Several RBW references in the correspondence, too. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] One more ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/opinion/sunday/if-kant-were-a-new-york-cyclist.html?_r=1hpw -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Serial number decoding...what's it mean?
:) Glad to know, just because... not critical, but still, just good to know the system is clickin' along :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/85MWc9U099EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Complaints about bad roads
On Aug 5, 2012, at 4:05 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com Aug 05 01:16PM -0700 What tire pressure are they using? That's my guess, that they were inflating their tires too much. But the bizarre thing is that my suggestions that they reduce their tire pressure went unheeded. They imagined that they would go faster with harder tires, though I think that's incorrect on roads that are bumpy. Perhaps harder tires really are faster on chipseal than softer tires, and I guess that's a tradeoff that they were willing to make. On my touring bike, I couldn't tell the difference between chipseal and the world's smoothest road. -- Interesting exchange about tire pressure, but I wonder if it's not at least partly your bike. Grant P. seems to design very, very comfortable bikes. (I've had a 68cm Redwood and still own a Quickbeam) I say that even though I'm not a fan of Rivendell front end geometry -- I prefer the lower-trail front end of my old English tourer. But -- what is it? The chainstays? seatstays? and of course partly just the way the bikes fit. I'm not sure. I just wonder if it isn't partly your bike itself, compared to the Co-Motion/Surly offerings? (even though the LHT seems to be an imitation of the Atlantis, and many people find them comfortable on tour) Art Tacoma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] In praise of gloves
Well, I did get out on a somewhat slow ride today. Not on a Rivendell, but another bike with more upright bars. My left side still aches. But the knees and hands function. Have been practicing guitar this afternoon and no issues. Am lucky, I guess. Although at age 48 it's not as easy to rebound from a crash as when I was younger. During the ride - what happens but my rear tire goes flat. Became sort of a small joke trying to fix it without resting the bike or the wheel up against my knee. Never realized how much I rely on it for things other than walking. BTW, the reason was my Velox tape had migrated. This is the second flat I've had this year due to tape creep. Might end up going to something else in the future. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Eric is tougher than he lets on! He and his Simpleone, which is a lovely bike by the way, had no trouble going down the road on the return leg of the ride, despite the earlier adversity. I hear that the average cyclist crashes every 3700 miles. Must be a relief to Eric to now have half a year of crash-free riding ahead of him! -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 16:04 -0700, ted wrote: Perhaps it could go to 650b in the smaller sizes (like on the Hillsen) but I fear they wouldn't sell that many. The Rodeo is targeted at club racer riding, and for that it sorta makes sense to have the same size wheels as everybody else. Well, it can't be for wheel swaps, that doesn't happen on club rides, but for borrowing a tube? I know that for most of my bikes there's no chance anyone else on the ride will have the right size tube, so I carry two or three. It's really not a big deal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Shimano CX70s
I have the CX70s on my Hunq with no issues. Pretty straightforward to install if you read the directions, but not exactly intuitive. Had a few problems with squeeling, but hard to say if they're particular to this brake or attributable to cantis in general - not enough of an expert to say for certain. Wheel removal is a breeze with these brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8tWypaYxgw0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Shimano CX70s
I've got a set on a non-Riv bike and they work just fine. Since the bike they are on is my 26 wheeled constant evolution frame I'll probably put the CX70s on my Hunq when that arrives and swap the CR720 from the build kit to this project bike. In any case I didn't even have any trouble with squealing somehow managing to get it right the first time (which doesn't often happen with me). Do keep the various spaces and such though as I had to respace everything I went to a wider and stronger rim while building a new rear wheel. Good brakes though. Bob On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Doug Magney yengamg...@gmail.com wrote: I have the CX70s on my Hunq with no issues. Pretty straightforward to install if you read the directions, but not exactly intuitive. Had a few problems with squeeling, but hard to say if they're particular to this brake or attributable to cantis in general - not enough of an expert to say for certain. Wheel removal is a breeze with these brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8tWypaYxgw0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
On a related note, how big we're your riding companions? The popular online tire drop calculator indicates 85 psi in a 37mm rear tire for a 225 lb rider with 75 lbs of bike and gear. My LHT actually rides much nicer with a good load on it. I always assumed it did so because that's what's it was designed for, and the harshness I sometimes feel with my light commuting load is due to a tube set designed for much heavier duty. Id assume your Atlantis has the same ultimate capabilities, but with a more sophisticated design it just works better across the entire range of loading. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jQbg2O_USHoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 6:04:46 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: The Rodeo is targeted at club racer riding, and for that it sorta makes sense to have the same size wheels as everybody else. While I personally have no problem carrying my own tubes and patches (and an honest to goodness pump for crying out loud...), I've been thinking recently about what to get for my daughter who has expressed an interest in club riding at college. I had exactly the same thought - she's only 5'3 and short legged at that, and I think 650B is the bees' knees, but for what she wants to do, I think 700C will be better. Steve says there won't be wheel swaps, but her frame will have a lot of clearance. If one of her cohorts bangs a wheel out of true, she'll be able to put it in her frame and they can all ride home :-) (Don't laugh ... it could have happened with me and a friend. Fortunately I was able to bang his wheel back straight enough that it would fit in his carbon fork.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lJA8giTqZD0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: HOLDSWORTH ???
Interested price/trades? On Sunday, August 5, 2012 12:45:39 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: Seat tube is 23.5 / 60 cm maybe a touch under Top tube centers is about 23 inches 59.xx something cm Kelly On Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:16:59 PM UTC-5, Ablejack wrote: looks like a nice size for me! I ride a 58-59. I'd also like to know the size. On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:19:36 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: I picked up this frame for my wife because it was in such great / new / can't find a ding scratch etc condition then she decided she wants a betty foy. I don't know what it's worth or if anyone would be interested in building it up.. open for discussion I guess. Comes with headset, bottom bracket, stem, and rear derailur Kelly http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7708313956/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7708306394/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7708295672/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0_kkE1SAW6gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Complaints about bad roads
I'm 5'8, and four of the five guys were shorter than I am. I'm guessing the short guys were in the 150 pound range. We started out the ride as a loaded tour, but three weeks in, there was a revolt because the majority of us thought the ride was just too hard. So Adventure Cycling ended up sending a van and driver to carry our gear. So three of the guys were then riding unloaded touring bikes-- and I'm pretty sure they had their tires at a high pressure. I decided to keep on carrying my gear for all but three of the days, for no particular good reason, and I also ran my tires at a lower pressure because I prefer it. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: On a related note, how big we're your riding companions? The popular online tire drop calculator indicates 85 psi in a 37mm rear tire for a 225 lb rider with 75 lbs of bike and gear. My LHT actually rides much nicer with a good load on it. I always assumed it did so because that's what's it was designed for, and the harshness I sometimes feel with my light commuting load is due to a tube set designed for much heavier duty. Id assume your Atlantis has the same ultimate capabilities, but with a more sophisticated design it just works better across the entire range of loading. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jQbg2O_USHoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 18:30 -0700, RonaTD wrote: Steve says there won't be wheel swaps, but her frame will have a lot of clearance. If one of her cohorts bangs a wheel out of true, she'll be able to put it in her frame and they can all ride home :-) And she'll have Shimano 10 and the friend will have Campagnolo 11 or SRAM or maybe even Dura Ace 11, and it will be the back wheel because it always is the back wheel, and the chance of shifting working correctly will be slight. In practice what happens in a case like this is somebody pulls out a cell phone and calls for a ride home. You don't spec your bike on the off chance of a once-in-a-lifetime freak like this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
Back when I raced, I did use other peoples wheels a few times. That sort of group ride is a bit of a hive thing in some ways and having similar sized wheels and similar gears seems to work well. For tires there is a lot more variety and better availability w/ the 700c size. Particularly in the 35mm and under sizes the Rodeo allows. I never met a club racer who even thought about toe overlap. They aren't likely to be interested in more clearance for bags between the seat or bars and the tires. So for selling a racish oriented bike I do think staying with 700c makes some sense. Now I am not saying any of you shouldn't prefer a 650b bike, or that it wouldn't be neat if Riv offered that option in a Rodeo or Rodeo like bike. If I could afford yet another bike I would be tempted by such a thing myself. I just don't think they are likely to do that, and that it might not sell all that well if they did. I do expect that if you rang them up and ask for a custom thats basically a 650b rodeo they would fix you right up. I wonder how the 56, and 58 Hillsens (650b) sell relative to the 57 and 59 (700c)? Thats gotta be the most direct marketing comparison of identically themed bikes with those two wheel sizes. On Aug 5, 6:30 pm, RonaTD teddur...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, August 5, 2012 6:04:46 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: The Rodeo is targeted at club racer riding, and for that it sorta makes sense to have the same size wheels as everybody else. While I personally have no problem carrying my own tubes and patches (and an honest to goodness pump for crying out loud...), I've been thinking recently about what to get for my daughter who has expressed an interest in club riding at college. I had exactly the same thought - she's only 5'3 and short legged at that, and I think 650B is the bees' knees, but for what she wants to do, I think 700C will be better. Steve says there won't be wheel swaps, but her frame will have a lot of clearance. If one of her cohorts bangs a wheel out of true, she'll be able to put it in her frame and they can all ride home :-) (Don't laugh ... it could have happened with me and a friend. Fortunately I was able to bang his wheel back straight enough that it would fit in his carbon fork.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads
Replying to my own post: I was just reading the Bicycle Quarterly blog, noting that they say that Paselas (which I was using) are fast-rolling tires, whereas Schwalbes are both slow and harsh-riding. So maybe that's the explanation of my riding companions' complaints. They were using Schwalbes. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I just last week got back from a 2500 mile tour, Mexico to Canada via the Sierra and the Cascades. Once again, as often happens, my riding companions sometimes complained that about rough roads. And once again, in the main I didn't notice the roads being rough, although the dirt detours that I took a time or two and my companions didn't were pretty bumpy in places. I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes (Surly LHT, Co-Motion Americano, other touring bikes) with reasonable touring tires (mostly Schwalbe Marathons, one guy had Vittoria Randonneurs I think). Why are these fragile flowers noticing bad roads when I don't? What are they doing wrong, that they're riding touring bikes and complaining about chipseal? When I ride at home on unloaded bikes, my friends sometimes complain about bad roads when I don't, but I chalk that up to their insistence in riding 25 mm tires pumped up to 120 pounds while I'm happy on my Roadeo with 28 mm tires. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
As much as I enjoy the technical content of BQ I often struggle with Jan's strong negative opinions with most bikes/parts that are competition for his products or what he rides. He also suggests that we all would be happier on thin tubed standard diameter frames, not offering the ideas that we are all not slight of build like he is. Any of us who are larger in size but as fit will get the same effect on larger/thicker tubes that are more proportionate to our size. ~mike Carlsbad Ca On Sunday, August 5, 2012 12:29:18 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/riding-fast-is-fun/ I personally -- to quote one commentator -- would rather stab myself in the eye than ride 600 km, but this little essay has some good points about the joy of riding fast, but on intelligent bikes. Several RBW references in the correspondence, too. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8Doz-pXRci4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Complaints about bad roads
Just for the record, *some* Schwalbes are very smooth, fast rolling tires, the Kojak for example. Even the massively heavy Big Apple rolls nicely for its mass. Patrick Moore iPhone On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Replying to my own post: I was just reading the Bicycle Quarterly blog, noting that they say that Paselas (which I was using) are fast-rolling tires, whereas Schwalbes are both slow and harsh-riding. So maybe that's the explanation of my riding companions' complaints. They were using Schwalbes. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I just last week got back from a 2500 mile tour, Mexico to Canada via the Sierra and the Cascades. Once again, as often happens, my riding companions sometimes complained that about rough roads. And once again, in the main I didn't notice the roads being rough, although the dirt detours that I took a time or two and my companions didn't were pretty bumpy in places. I'm at a loss to understand what I'm missing. This was a loaded tour. I was riding my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 Panaracer Paselas, which should be comfortable tires, by my companions were riding fine touring bikes (Surly LHT, Co-Motion Americano, other touring bikes) with reasonable touring tires (mostly Schwalbe Marathons, one guy had Vittoria Randonneurs I think). Why are these fragile flowers noticing bad roads when I don't? What are they doing wrong, that they're riding touring bikes and complaining about chipseal? When I ride at home on unloaded bikes, my friends sometimes complain about bad roads when I don't, but I chalk that up to their insistence in riding 25 mm tires pumped up to 120 pounds while I'm happy on my Roadeo with 28 mm tires. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog
Very well put Mike. I agree with you. Not just us big guys either. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jSVwDsmmmA8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: HOLDSWORTH ???
Brian Make an offer.. Trades sound interesting. I honestly don't know.. Have more parts on the way to keep building it up.. But really have no use for it other an a really pretty bike. I have another frame to build up so parts won't go to waste. I've been telling people 700 for the frame crank and rear derailur..bottom bracket and headset I need wheels 700 series 36 spoke Looking for a fancy nice sweet Bosco bars ... Albatross .. Two bolt seat posts Lugged stems and seat posts The bike fits my wife but am wanting to buy her a Betty Foy Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lUMoj2fuTIAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
