[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times

[Joe Bernard]

He's well known in motorcycle circles, too; wrote for a free monthly 
motorcycle paper, City Bike, out of San Francisco for many years (I haven't 
seen one in a while). He has a downbeat style of writing that fit the paper 
well, but seemed a little off in the Readers. His last couple Reader pieces 
about aging, and aggressive drivers, were more "down" than most. It was 
clear that several forces coalesced at the same time in Tucson to create a 
less than lovely moment in his life.
 
Joe "yeah, that happened to me in Clear Lake a few years ago, too" Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 5:57:03 PM UTC-8, MKahrl wrote:

> Maynard Hershon used to write for Winning magazine and later Velo News.  A 
>> compilation of his articles appeared in his books *Tales from the Bike 
>> Shop* and *Half Wheel Hell and Other Cycling Stories*.  Well written.  
>> Stories about the bicycle racing scene in the 70's and 80's and the support 
>> young racers received from older bike shop owners.  I recommend them.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: RBW garage sale

[Manuel Acosta]

Doing a overnight trip with my BoyScout troop the Friday to Saturday, most 
likely going to miss the Rivendell Garage sale. Might make the ride if it's 
planned in the afternoonish. 
Diablo is nice and close. Maybe dirt riding back down?
Any suggestions?


On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:41:09 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> Just announced in the Blug:  http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ 
>
> Maybe we can do a bit of "Just Ride"-ing after. 
>
> Manny's a good photographer -- perhaps he can video-stream it for the 
> folks who aren't local. 
>
> jim m 
> just down the street, ca 
>

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[RBW] RBW garage sale

[Jim Mather]

Just announced in the Blug:  http://rivbike.tumblr.com/

Maybe we can do a bit of "Just Ride"-ing after.

Manny's a good photographer -- perhaps he can video-stream it for the
folks who aren't local.

jim m
just down the street, ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ryan Ray]

I actually laughed out loud at that Kelly. 

As per Grant's comments,
One day there will be a party that is fiscally conservative but not 
antedeluvian. Until that day I'll be voting democrat pretty exclusively. How 
does that affect which companies I purchase from? I'm not sure. I still don't 
buy from Nike because they pretty much led the slave labor movement. I'm sure I 
have other examples. If Grant had said he was happy Bush won (specially the 
first time) I'd probably not have given it a second thought. 

- Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

[Steve Palincsar]

On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 18:52 -0800, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
> Yes, back in the 70s they were planning to build the (ill-fated) Tocks
> Dam and create a massive reservoir/recreational area.  It thankfully
> never happened, and in the mean time the Dept of the Interior had
> bought up all the cabins/houses within the reservoir's planned
> 'footprint', forcing people to move from the area.  To this day it's
> still very remote (and virtually abandoned) thanks to the displacement
> of all those people as a result of the Tocks Dam project.
> 
> 
> On the Jersey side is Buttermilk Falls, a beautiful cascade in the
> woods, that sits on one of the dirt roads in the Water Gap
> Recreational Area.  
> 
> 
> I will begin planning this... perhaps for April?


Sounds good to me!


> 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

[Montclair BobbyB]

Yes, back in the 70s they were planning to build the (ill-fated) Tocks Dam 
and create a massive reservoir/recreational area.  It thankfully never 
happened, and in the mean time the Dept of the Interior had bought up all 
the cabins/houses within the reservoir's planned 'footprint', forcing 
people to move from the area.  To this day it's still very remote (and 
virtually abandoned) thanks to the displacement of all those people as a 
result of the Tocks Dam project.

On the Jersey side is Buttermilk Falls, a beautiful cascade in the woods, 
that sits on one of the dirt roads in the Water Gap Recreational Area.  

I will begin planning this... perhaps for April?

Peace,
Bobby

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>
> Back in the 70s they were saying they were going to let Old Mine Road 
> "go back to nature".  I remember it as being exceptionally nice.  I 
> think I recall us crossing the river into PA and going up to some falls 
> -- Silverthread, perhaps? -- on the ride.  Details, of course, are long 
> gone, as it was 40 years ago, but some 20 years later on a drive up to 
> NY we went on PA 209? and stopped and walked up one of those side roads 
> to see some falls.  It was January, I think, bitterly cold, and 
> everything was frozen, stalactites and stalagmites of ice everywhere. 
> Just breathtaking. 
>
> And speaking of which, a few years ago we did a tour from Front Royal 
> VA, 4 days self supported, that stopped at and visited Luray Caverns and 
> Shenandoah Caverns.  It's an excellent tour. 
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2078 
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2079 
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2077 
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2076 
>
> The only thing I'd modify on these routes is to use a dirt road rather 
> than the paved road that goes by some large resort on day 2 or 3.  The 
> paved road was \/\/\/\ and we got stuck into a huge exodus of traffic 
> from the resort, which was most unpleasant.   
>
> You set up a Delaware Water Gap tour and I'm definitely in.  I'll bet 
> Joan would be in as well.  She's resisted the Riv Rallies for a couple 
> of years but has now decided she's in for them, too. 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

[PATRICK MOORE]

Paul: many thanks again for taking the trouble to reply in detail and to
find photos. I'll have to remember this if I ever get fenders for the
errand Riv.

Now all I have to do I find a useable source for 559 Honjos ... (Hiroshi,
who sold me my first pair some years ago, hasn't carried them for some
years).

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Tokyo Crank  wrote:

> Patrick
>
> Not my bike pictured but it's an Alps I found on the web with the same
> design. The mudguard is a standard Honjo type, cut in half just aft of the
> brake bridge. A rectangular metal tab is affixed to the front half of the
> mudguard, using the same nut that holds it onto the bridge. This is never
> moved. The remaining half of the metal tab pokes out, and has a threaded
> hole. In the picture, you can see that the rear mudguard has been removed
> and the locknut replaced for safekeeping. The locknut has a leather washer
> to prevent rattles and metal fatigue :
>
> 
> The only other attachment point for the rear half of the mudguard are the
> stays. The dropouts are standard but the mudguard stays are attached with
> spring-loaded bolts. These just need a push, and the stays are released :
>
> 
>
> A small picture set is here http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCKQBcy
>
> Apologies for not taking my own pictures and to the originator of these
> pics.
>
> I should add that after a couple of years, the spring in the push-release
> bolts on the dropouts became loose. The resulting noise was painful, so I
> asked Hagiwara-san ( of Alps ) for advice. He gave me some standard,
> Philips-head bolts to replace the spring loaded ones. No further issues.
> The allen key I carry that fits my brakes has a Philips screwdriver on the
> other end, so it's no extra bother, and I value the silence !
>
> The "Easy Rinkou" by Grand Bois shown at Cyclemode 2012, from the original
> photo set, has a similar design to the Alps, though it appeared to be more
> machined.
>
> Paul
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Kelly]

I refuse to wear a helmet .. 

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[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times

[MKahrl]

>
> Maynard Hershon used to write for Winning magazine and later Velo News.  A 
> compilation of his articles appeared in his books *Tales from the Bike 
> Shop* and *Half Wheel Hell and Other Cycling Stories*.  Well written.  
> Stories about the bicycle racing scene in the 70's and 80's and the support 
> young racers received from older bike shop owners.  I recommend them.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

[Tokyo Crank]

Patrick

Not my bike pictured but it's an Alps I found on the web with the same 
design. The mudguard is a standard Honjo type, cut in half just aft of the 
brake bridge. A rectangular metal tab is affixed to the front half of the 
mudguard, using the same nut that holds it onto the bridge. This is never 
moved. The remaining half of the metal tab pokes out, and has a threaded 
hole. In the picture, you can see that the rear mudguard has been removed 
and the locknut replaced for safekeeping. The locknut has a leather washer 
to prevent rattles and metal fatigue :


The only other attachment point for the rear half of the mudguard are the 
stays. The dropouts are standard but the mudguard stays are attached with 
spring-loaded bolts. These just need a push, and the stays are released :



A small picture set is here http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCKQBcy 

Apologies for not taking my own pictures and to the originator of these 
pics.

I should add that after a couple of years, the spring in the push-release 
bolts on the dropouts became loose. The resulting noise was painful, so I 
asked Hagiwara-san ( of Alps ) for advice. He gave me some standard, 
Philips-head bolts to replace the spring loaded ones. No further issues. 
The allen key I carry that fits my brakes has a Philips screwdriver on the 
other end, so it's no extra bother, and I value the silence !

The "Easy Rinkou" by Grand Bois shown at Cyclemode 2012, from the original 
photo set, has a similar design to the Alps, though it appeared to be more 
machined. 

Paul

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[RBW] Re: WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

[Christopher Murray]

Howdy
I have a pair of nitro moustache bars but they are 25.4. Not sure if you 
are interested or not. They have been mounted but have less than 50 miles 
on them.

Cheers!
cm

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:59:46 PM UTC-6, ilter wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Looking for a moustache bar & a dirt drop/periscopa type stem to go along. 
> Please contact me off the list if you have one or both. Stem has to have 
> 26mm clamp diameter to match the handlebar, short reach (8cm?) preferred.
> Thanks!
>
> ilter in Chicago
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[RBW] Re: WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

[Joe Bernard]

And I have the 25.4 Periscopa to match, which is too short for the bars I'm 
using. joerem...@gmail.com
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:03:55 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:

> Howdy
> I have a pair of nitro moustache bars but they are 25.4. Not sure if you 
> are interested or not. They have been mounted but have less than 50 miles 
> on them. 
>
> Cheers!
> cm
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Peter Morgano]

Heyyy, you cant co-opt my Oy, unless your wife is Jewish too, haha. While
many find me insulting few find me scary or tactical. Have a good night.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Oy, Peter, this is the 2nd time you've become insulting and puffed up. The
> colors of the map don't matter, the distribution does. But you did prove my
> point about scare tactics, and from another generation
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Me, too -- and probably at least a couple of the Allingham offspring as well.



On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:58 PM, "Steve Palincsar"  wrote:

> Back in the 70s they were saying they were going to let Old Mine Road
> "go back to nature".  I remember it as being exceptionally nice.  I
> think I recall us crossing the river into PA and going up to some falls
> -- Silverthread, perhaps? -- on the ride.  Details, of course, are long
> gone, as it was 40 years ago, but some 20 years later on a drive up to
> NY we went on PA 209? and stopped and walked up one of those side roads
> to see some falls.  It was January, I think, bitterly cold, and
> everything was frozen, stalactites and stalagmites of ice everywhere.
> Just breathtaking.
> 
> And speaking of which, a few years ago we did a tour from Front Royal
> VA, 4 days self supported, that stopped at and visited Luray Caverns and
> Shenandoah Caverns.  It's an excellent tour.
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2078
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2079
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2077
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2076
> 
> The only thing I'd modify on these routes is to use a dirt road rather
> than the paved road that goes by some large resort on day 2 or 3.  The
> paved road was \/\/\/\ and we got stuck into a huge exodus of traffic
> from the resort, which was most unpleasant.  
> 
> You set up a Delaware Water Gap tour and I'm definitely in.  I'll bet
> Joan would be in as well.  She's resisted the Riv Rallies for a couple
> of years but has now decided she's in for them, too.
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ron Mc]

Oy, Peter, this is the 2nd time you've become insulting and puffed up. The 
colors of the map don't matter, the distribution does. But you did prove my 
point about scare tactics, and from another generation

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Peter Morgano]

Oy, I am not typing loudly haha.  I always speak softly and rationally, at
home and at work and anyone is entitled to thier own opinion but not thier
own facts. Like I said before I always enjoy a debate with the other side
and some of my friends and family are republicans but I think this
conversation has reached an end. My Phil BB tools are coming soon and I
have more important things to do than argue facts.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Nor canyon in any way represent me, however loudly you claim
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ron Mc]

Nor canyon in any way represent me, however loudly you claim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ron Mc]

Our current Texas gov. Was the last holdout - he campaigned for Al Gore. S. 
Carolina in no way represents the entire south, nor does Wikipedia.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Peter Morgano]

Again, an issue with politics nowadays is the arguing of facts. I believe
Richard Nixon and the Southern Strategy was not in the 80s, but then again
I do have a degree in Political Science from University of South Carolina
so maybe they led me astray. But dont trust me, trust our find friends at
Wikipedia, or have they been infected by the liberal media?

 "The passage of the Civil Rights Act of
1964was the
event that finally moved the majority of Southern states to the
Republican Party. From the end of the Civil War to 1960 Democrats had solid
control over the southern states in presidential elections, hence the
term "Solid
South " to describe the states'
Democratic preference. After the passage of this act however their support
on a presidential level shifted to the Republicans"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Peter, s. Democrats became Republicans in the 80s, not the 60s, so your
> data is wrong
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[RBW] WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

[Christopher Murray]

Howdy
I have a pair of nitro moustache bars but they are 25.4. Not sure if you are 
interested or not. They have been mounted but have less than 50 miles on them. 

Cheers!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ron Mc]

Peter, s. Democrats became Republicans in the 80s, not the 60s, so your data is 
wrong

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

[Steve Palincsar]

Back in the 70s they were saying they were going to let Old Mine Road
"go back to nature".  I remember it as being exceptionally nice.  I
think I recall us crossing the river into PA and going up to some falls
-- Silverthread, perhaps? -- on the ride.  Details, of course, are long
gone, as it was 40 years ago, but some 20 years later on a drive up to
NY we went on PA 209? and stopped and walked up one of those side roads
to see some falls.  It was January, I think, bitterly cold, and
everything was frozen, stalactites and stalagmites of ice everywhere.
Just breathtaking.

And speaking of which, a few years ago we did a tour from Front Royal
VA, 4 days self supported, that stopped at and visited Luray Caverns and
Shenandoah Caverns.  It's an excellent tour.
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2078
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2079
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2077
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2076

The only thing I'd modify on these routes is to use a dirt road rather
than the paved road that goes by some large resort on day 2 or 3.  The
paved road was \/\/\/\ and we got stuck into a huge exodus of traffic
from the resort, which was most unpleasant.  

You set up a Delaware Water Gap tour and I'm definitely in.  I'll bet
Joan would be in as well.  She's resisted the Riv Rallies for a couple
of years but has now decided she's in for them, too.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Steve Palincsar]

> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:25:21 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
> First off that map is misleading since it has the democrat
> highlighted in red. Second, yes the Democrats lost the south
> forever after the civil rights acts in the 60s, 


Virginia went Democratic in both the Presidential and Senatorial
elections this year.  In Alexandria Va, where I live, Democrats won the
Mayoral election and all the City Council spots.





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Re: [RBW] Re: Wood

[Montclair BobbyB]

Steve:

The Delaware Water Gap actually is a great choice for a 2-day ride, 
light-touring credit card style.  I did it one weekend 2 years ago, where 
we started at the Water Gap (on the PA side), rode across the Rte 80 bridge 
to NJ, then up the historic Old Mine Road to Milford PA along the Delaware, 
which is a rolling combo of very rural rough pavement and dirt roads (about 
40+ miles in total for Day 1).  We spent the night in Milford PA (where 
there are plenty of B&Bs and Inns).  Day 2 we rode back into NJ, and up 
through High Point and Stokes State Forest, before jumping on the Sussex 
and Paulinskill rail-trails (which are mostly dirt, some gravel and 
virtually no pavement). The Paulinskil is very pretty (largely used by the 
equestrian community), and brings you all the way back down to the Water 
Gap.  The 2-day total distance is roughly 90 miles, and it's definitely a 
worthy ride with very little traffic.  This really highlights some of NJ's 
hidden beauty.

Whether we also do a Virginia location for the May Riv Rally, I'd be glad 
to host a Water Gap ride in the Spring.  Definitely an excellent (and 
challenging) ride with beautiful scenery.  Thanks for suggesting it.

Peace,
Bobby
  
On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 3:55:07 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 06:55 -0800, Montclair BobbyB wrote: 
> > 
> > Riv Rally East is a weekend ride.  The first one was in May 2011 with 
> > a handful of riders converging on Wellsboro, PA for 2 days of scenic 
> > loops in the Pine Creek Gorge area.  In 2012 a larger group assembled 
> > in Cumberland, MD for a 2-day point to point ride along the Great 
> > Allegheny Passage trail up to Ohiopyle, PA.  Riv Rally 2013 is still 
> > in the planning stages, but it will likely occur on a weekend in May 
> > 2013, possibly with an optional ride on Friday.  Western Virginia is 
> > one possible destination; but stay tuned. 
> > 
> > I have recently moved out to western NJ along the Delaware River (and 
> > BTW we JUST last night got power back after a week of outage due to 
> > the big storm)... There are lots of places around this area that would 
> > be perfect for a S24O... The beauty of these types of rides is they 
> > can be spontaneous... It takes very little planning... just pack up a 
> > few essentials, grab an adventurous friend or two and head out on a 
> > Friday after work... Oh, and make sure to be back before it's time to 
> > do your Saturday chores... 
>
> So how about in the Delaware Water Gap?   
>
> One of the first tours I ever did was with the Mid Hudson Bicycle Club 
> to the Delaware Water Gap.  There was a youth hostel there and we HQ'd 
> at it, rode to the Peters Valley Craft Fair.  It was our first ride on 
> the then-new child adapted Gitane tandem. 
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

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Re: [RBW] Fs 52cm Hillborne plus partial build

[David Hays]

Please send me some photographs when you get a chance.
Thank you.
David


On Nov 6, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Trevor saxton  wrote:

> Commuting by bike is no longer an option for me and I need to free up some 
> cash for other things, keeping the Simpleone for sure 
> 
> I was in the process of building up a Hillborne and had to stopframe and 
> most components have two rides totalling 50km so basically new below is what 
> I have for sure 
> 
> New 52cm Hillborne blue with cream paint scheme 
> New 650b Velocity  wheels from rivendell 32h with 8spd cassette 11-32
> Col de vie tires 38mm 
> 
> Sugino crankset 40x24 with chain guard
> Micro shift rear derailleur ( can substitute a new in box shimano Deore)
> 
> Hoping to get 1500 shipped (using riv boxes will need 2)
> Looking to keep stem brakes and lever42 cm noodle Shimano levers 8cm stem and 
> silver Paul Racers but will throw them in for 400 for a total of 1900 shipped 
> add a front derailleur and you have a great city commuter 
> 
> Email me at saxton...@gmail.com and i will get som photos 
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[RBW] Re: Proto (Paleo?) Riv?

[Austin]

http://cycledefrance.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sauvage_lejeune1.jpg?w=590&h=786

http://www.flickr.com/photos/78383408@N08/8128503767/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151498@N07/5716456642/

French camping bikes, I've seen the term 'campeur' used too, had that sort 
of frame style. I imagine that the Rivendell bikes are quite different but 
it is possible that there was some influence.


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> Spotted this on e-bray:  
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170937470403&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
>
> Not a Rivendell, but surely a great-great grandfather of Bombadils 
> and  Hunqs.
>
> Nick W.
>
> (No connection to seller)
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[RBW] WTB: high rise stem (dirt drop/periscopa) & moustache bars

[ilter]

Hi all,

Looking for a moustache bar & a dirt drop/periscopa type stem to go along. 
Please contact me off the list if you have one or both. Stem has to have 
26mm clamp diameter to match the handlebar, short reach (8cm?) preferred.
Thanks!

ilter in Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

[ilter]

Great photos, thank you for sharing!

ilter

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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[John L]

Duh, forgot the link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34864597@N00/8162100660/in/set-72157631945660743

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 3:34:44 PM UTC-5, John L wrote:
>
> I rode my Hillborne over.  Also, no pictures, but took this a week ago at 
> my new place (was living around the corner from work, so I'm looking 
> forward to the new 6 mile commute).
>
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:03:23 PM UTC-5, Amit Singh wrote:
>>
>> Got a photo of your Riv at the poll?  Send a link or post the photo!  :)
>>
>> I'll be riding to go vote this evening after work and will send a photo 
>> then.
>>
>> Amit
>>
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RE: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Kris Kenow]

I rode my Stumpjumper to the voting "church" ,sorry no pictures.

Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:33:38 -0800
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

The 4-year-old and I rode the Big Dummy to the library to turn in my and my 
wife's ballots... http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8162650569/--Andy




On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:03:23 AM UTC-8, Amit Singh wrote:Got a photo of 
your Riv at the poll?  Send a link or post the photo!  :)
I'll be riding to go vote this evening after work and will send a photo then.
Amit



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Re: [RBW] Cygolite mounting questions

[Kerry Kunsman]

John,

If you want to mount with mid-fork braze-ons I think you already 
received some good suggestions.  If, like me, you don't have a 
braze-on where you want the light, I have tried a couple of clamp-on 
types.  If you can find them the old style, round, tandem "Stoker 
Stubs" work good.  The other thing I've used with good success is the 
Minoura Besso 
LH-50. 
. 
Unfortunately, it looks like Minoura is discontinuing these.  Two 
other options I found were the Profile AirStryke Computer Mount, and 
the ISSIMO Nob XL.  These might work for a generator light, but I 
didn't feel they were strong enough to be dependable, especially if 
you have a light with the extra weight of an internal battery.


Kerry Kunsman
San Diego, CA




At 07:25 AM 11/5/2012, John wrote:
I recently purchased a neat little battery light from Riv., the 
cygolite "metro 300". Very bright, light, easy to use!


I would like to use two lights on my bike; one mounted on the 
handlebars, and one on the fork. Do any of you have solutions for 
attatching a cygolite to the fork? Perhaps there's a neat little 
gizmo to make it work without fuss?


Thanks,
John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I love talking politics, but to bring the discussion more on-topic: Which 
party is friendlier to the lugged steel lobby? Discuss!

On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:25:21 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:
>
> First off that map is misleading since it has the democrat highlighted in 
> red. Second, yes the Democrats lost the south forever after the civil 
> rights acts in the 60s, I would think to the millions of people that have 
> had thier lives improved for the better because of the Civil Rights act 
> would not be sad about that. And dont try to tell me about the south, I 
> lived in South Carolina for 9 years, 5 of those in  rural area, they hate 
> the democrats for really just one big reason, sad but true. 
>
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Ron Mc  >wrote:
>
>> Peter, Grant, here is the polarization of our country from 1960 to 2000
>>
>> EC map - 1960 presidential election 
>>
>> 
>>
>> EC map 2000 election
>>
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Peter Morgano]

First off that map is misleading since it has the democrat highlighted in
red. Second, yes the Democrats lost the south forever after the civil
rights acts in the 60s, I would think to the millions of people that have
had thier lives improved for the better because of the Civil Rights act
would not be sad about that. And dont try to tell me about the south, I
lived in South Carolina for 9 years, 5 of those in  rural area, they hate
the democrats for really just one big reason, sad but true.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Peter, Grant, here is the polarization of our country from 1960 to 2000
>
> EC map - 1960 presidential election
>
> 
>
> EC map 2000 election
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[William]

For one thing, Republicans changed from Blue to Red between 1960 and 2000, 
while Democrats changed from Red to Blue.  Was there ever a time when they 
were the same color?  That would have been really confusing.  

Bill "just trying to insert a little jocularity" Lindsay
aka Bubba

On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 12:56:30 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Peter, Grant, here is the polarization of our country from 1960 to 2000
>
> EC map - 1960 presidential election 
>
> 
>
> EC map 2000 election
>
> 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ron Mc]

Peter, Grant, here is the polarization of our country from 1960 to 2000

EC map - 1960 presidential election 



EC map 2000 election





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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Peter Morgano]

That is true but sadly most people just watch the network that they watch
and that is thier source of information. I do love the rise of independent
media on the web, gives way different perspectives than you would ever get
on the mainstream media. I am obviously a liberal but try to not just limit
myself to their media sources and I try to take a good look at the issues
and don't just block vote. For instance I live in NY and did not vote for
Cuomo since I find him repulsive but did not vote for the conservative
lunatic either, there were better 3rd party candidates on the ballot.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Peter, there's another way we vote.  With digital cable, they know what
> we're watching on tv 100% of the time.  Turn off the 24-hr/day news and
> turn off the news entertainment industry.
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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ron Mc]

Peter, there's another way we vote.  With digital cable, they know what 
we're watching on tv 100% of the time.  Turn off the 24-hr/day news and 
turn off the news entertainment industry.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

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Be that as it may, the thing I hate the most about the media is the false
equivalency that is measured against all politics. In some cases one guy or
party or belief is just wrong, and we live in such a PC society that no one
in the media can just come out and say it. When you watch old news casts
from the civil rights era or Vietnam war news people were not afraid to say
what they thought, they actually had passion and weren't trying to sell
"infotainment" to the masses. I agree that politicians need to work
together but to say "both sides are at fault all the time" makes it worse,
not better.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> the reason the two parties worked together when Grant and I were kids was
> because there were four parties.  North/south democrats, and east/west
> republicans.  Coalitions would form over issues of common interest between
> the four regions and two parties.  Ending in the 70s, people changed
> parties and polarized, so now, it's the major urban centers against the
> rest of the nation - if you look at last night's EC map, it will show you
> that.  The parties will not work together as long as each side keeps
> fear-mongering the beliefs of the other.  The media feeds on that
> fear-mongering, because they must spin every news story to last 360 hours.
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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ron Mc]

the reason the two parties worked together when Grant and I were kids was 
because there were four parties.  North/south democrats, and east/west 
republicans.  Coalitions would form over issues of common interest between 
the four regions and two parties.  Ending in the 70s, people changed 
parties and polarized, so now, it's the major urban centers against the 
rest of the nation - if you look at last night's EC map, it will show you 
that.  The parties will not work together as long as each side keeps 
fear-mongering the beliefs of the other.  The media feeds on that 
fear-mongering, because they must spin every news story to last 360 hours.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I say that we discuss politics only if we include trail, planing, and
helmets.

Patrick Moore, pissed because his party didn't win.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party
*
*
(Of course, it no longer exists, and it was never American to begin with,
but **still**.)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Peter Morgano]

That is a good conversation, lets hope things stay that cordial here.  I am
a politics junkie so I love any spirited debate, as long as people keep it
clean.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 13:47 -0500, Peter Morgano wrote:
> > Oy, a political conversation breaking out on a bicycle discussion
> > page, nothing good can come of this.
>
>
> It's not impossible.  The discussion following Jan's article on the
> German voting system was interesting, informative and courteous: pretty
> much an operational definition of "something good coming out of it."
> http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/11/06/how-germans-vote/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

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On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 13:47 -0500, Peter Morgano wrote:
> Oy, a political conversation breaking out on a bicycle discussion
> page, nothing good can come of this. 


It's not impossible.  The discussion following Jan's article on the
German voting system was interesting, informative and courteous: pretty
much an operational definition of "something good coming out of it."
http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/11/06/how-germans-vote/



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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Peter Morgano]

Oy, a political conversation breaking out on a bicycle discussion page,
nothing good can come of this. Thankfully the fine people at Rivendell
don't waste their time worrying about the stock market, or so I assume.
Lets at least not tell people what they believe or quote things in such
hyperbolic terms, that is where the troubles start I feel. Lets read what
my grandmother used to call the "Commie Pinko Rag" NY Times has to say
about the stock market instead, seems to be a pretty big shit storm out
there in general.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/business/fiscal-impasse-leads-to-caution-after-election.html

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> of the other side.  I can assure you that you wear as much of the
> polarizing disparity as you paint on the other side.  You believe they're
> trying to put you in jail, they believe you're trying to tax them to death
> and make their grandchildren pay for the rest.  Stock markets around the
> world today tanked as a result of the election.
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Re: [RBW] Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

[PATRICK MOORE]

Thanks, Paul. I used a 46/26 TA Pro 5 Vis for a while off road, then
switched to 44/30 (home brew 14 or so -34 9 speed) for faster shifting and
a slightly lower range on the big ring, but the SunTour shifter shifted the
larger gap fine, if a bit slower. I ran the rings on the inner two
postions, largely because of chainstay requirements, but it also had the
happy result of letting me use a shaped triple fd.

Can I persuade you to give us in words and pictures the details of the
quick-release fender portion? One annoying thing about fenders is how they
interfere with stuffing a bike into the back of a small motor vehicle. Your
arrangement may be a solution.



On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Tokyo Crank  wrote:

> Patrick
>
> The ( Carradice Nelson ) saddlebag is supported with a bagman. I've tried
> it without, and it sits just so on the mudguard. But in that position, it
> hits the back of my legs, so bagman it is. The mudguard by the way, is
> split underneath the brakes. The rear half can be removed without tools.
> This is to help pack it, for carrying on a train. The pump has it's own
> attachment fittings brazed on at the top and bottom of the seat stay. It is
> located there, rather than the top or seat tube, to allow the bicycle to be
> more easily carried over rough ground when pass hunting or, more common in
> my case, when going up and down the steps in a Tokyo highway underpass.
>
> The front gearing is 44x26 rings ( TA crank and BB ) which is quite common
> on Japanese touring bikes. The builder was keen to explain the overlapping
> ratios of a front triple, and the benefits of a low tread crank. The front
> ( and rear ) derailleur is a Shimano Dura-Ace. Despite having a narrow cage
> and fairly large radius, the front shifting is fine. I wouldn't go throwing
> it from one ring to the other with wild abandon, but it does it's job with
> no rubbing in either position. I've not had to adjust it yet in 8 years or
> so. Likewise the wheels, Ukai rims on Ultegra hubs, 650A tyres ( the most
> popular size in Japan ). The wheel rims are quite narrow for a touring
> bike, but are still true after 5000km a year on and off road in all
> weather, and no spokes need adjusting yet. The builder did a good job, I
> think.
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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ron Mc]

I'm surprised to see some of the opinions - or really, the projections - of 
the other side.  I can assure you that you wear as much of the polarizing 
disparity as you paint on the other side.  You believe they're trying to 
put you in jail, they believe you're trying to tax them to death and make 
their grandchildren pay for the rest.  Stock markets around the world today 
tanked as a result of the election.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Horace]

80% turnout! That's awesome.

I dropped my ballot off on my way to work. And, since I bike to work
every day, that means my vote was delivered via Quickbeam.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, johnb  wrote:
> Read this after alas.
>
> GF and I rode to polling place in MD. Cold but sunny. Parking lot was packed
> (80% turnout in MD) so bike parking right next to the school received many
> comments. Some were even positive...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[johnb]

Read this after alas.

GF and I rode to polling place in MD. Cold but sunny. Parking lot was 
packed (80% turnout in MD) so bike parking right next to the school 
received many comments. Some were even positive...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Seth Vidal]

I would have agreed with you. Right up until Citizens United. When
corporations can give unlimited money and behave like people, but not
people - then corps espousing their political beliefs gets my hackles up.
When I see  a company telling me that they don't like my life and that they
are actively working to make my life and many of those people I love
illegal?

That's when I start making sure they don't get any money, From anyone I
know.

It's one thing to say that you think there should be more or less taxes,
it's another to say that my friends cannot be the way they are.

-sv




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> I see nothing wrong with what they have to say, even as an Athiest,
> although I can see how a devout member of another religion might be put
> off. It comes down to the fact we live in a great nation, where you can say
> or believe whatever you want, even if you own a big business, and people
> can vote in the second best way, with thier wallets.
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:
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>> there are successful businesses who post their beliefs
>> http://www.sierratradingpost.com/lp2/we-believe/
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>> attribute to their beliefs
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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Jim M.]

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:26:44 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:

> Do you find out the political affiliation of every business owner before 
> you patronize the biz?
>
> No, and I don't care about how they vote. But I do care about how they 
spend their profits they might make from me. Some large national businesses 
have been very obvious about spending money on causes I disagree with, so I 
don't give them my money any more. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Peter Morgano]

I see nothing wrong with what they have to say, even as an Athiest,
although I can see how a devout member of another religion might be put
off. It comes down to the fact we live in a great nation, where you can say
or believe whatever you want, even if you own a big business, and people
can vote in the second best way, with thier wallets.
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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ron Mc]

there are successful businesses who post their beliefs
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/lp2/we-believe/
though their success is based more on their customer service, which they 
attribute to their beliefs

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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Re: Grant's story. Interesting that a person who apparently enjoys Riv's 
approach to bicycles would be so hung up on Grant's fairly mainstream political 
stance. Is he boycotting half the country? More than likely the mutual interest 
in bikes made the dude feel chummy with GP, and that initial chumminess made 
the "betrayal" on political philosophy even more profound.

My shop is in a blue-collar area of South Minneapolis, which is a pretty 
diverse place. I've learned a lot about people, but the most useful thing I've 
learned is that a common interest in bikes does not mean two cyclists have 
ANYTHING else in common.

Oh yeah. I walked to my poll twice (registration issues), but only voted once.

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[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[islaysteve]

Grant, I echo your sentiments.  I'm a "displaced" Californian,  but I'm 
fortunate to live in Maryland where I was able to vote for marriage 
equality, among other good things.  The results were pretty much the same 
as my ballot all around, so I'm happy here too.  Thanks for sharing, don't 
worry about that guy, and enjoy the California weather.  Steve


On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:26:44 PM UTC-5, grant wrote:
>
> I rode mine this morning. Looks like my vote wasn't neded, but...it's 
> a funny thing. Four years ago I was in Taiwan or Japan or something on 
> election day, following the news on the 'puter, and I got happy at the end. 
> A fellow told me he'd never buy from us again. Earlier this year he emailed 
> me saying he filled up a shopping cart, but then remembered I was happy 
> when Obama won, and so he emptied it. I don't believe he ever filled it up, 
> but it's interesting that he felt that way and took the time to tell me.
>
> Today I voted for women, the environment, the middle class, for stem cell 
> research, for marriage equality, for fair pay, for EVERY class, for 
> science. Does that put Rivendell at risk, my saying that? 
>
> To anybody who---doesn't like the way the election went and doesn't like 
> that I do, and might not support us because I'm here all thrilled, I 
> wonder: Do you find out the political affiliation of every business owner 
> before you patronize the biz?
>
> Ultimately, it will be good for both parties. I imagine the elephants will 
> be less radical from now on. I imagine the donkeys will welcome their 
> moving a hair to the left. It could lead to the two parties working 
> together again, the way it was when I was a lad and my dad was my age.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Eric Platt]

We did not ride to the polls after work today.  A combination of a later
time off work, light drizzle in the low 40's and more traffic made me
decide to just keep driving the carpool to the polling station after work.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Ryan Ray  wrote:

> The sanity of all mail in voting... I heard King Count was expected to get
> 86% turnout.
>
> The whole vote by mail thing was championed and put together by my
> favorite Wasington republican Sam Reed. My ballot was so sad and one-party
> without him in there.
>
> I spent election day building up my new to me Ram. Had trouble with the
> metal fenders and front rack so I took the vo rack back and ordered a
> Mark's rack. Hope it works!
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Re: [RBW] Tokyo Cycle Show ( Picture Set )

[Tokyo Crank]

Doug

The cassette is an Ultegra 12x27. The rear derailleur, to anticipate a 
question, is the long cage Dura Ace 7700GS. The original tyres were Mitsuboshi 
Trimlines. It is currently wearing Michelin World Tour 650 x 35A. Could only 
find an ancient review of these online, where I believe they were memorably 
described as "pitiful". They are certainly sturdier than the Mitsuboshis, but 
although I may have felt they weren't as fleet as foot at first ride, I suspect 
it was psychological : I'm not any slower. They were a $&¥£€%##^ nightmare to 
fit on the rims, but once on, I have no complaints. No punctures, no dramas, 
and tread still looking good after 2 and 1/2 years use. World Tour indeed.

Paul

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

[Ryan Ray]

The sanity of all mail in voting... I heard King Count was expected to get 86% 
turnout. 

The whole vote by mail thing was championed and put together by my favorite 
Wasington republican Sam Reed. My ballot was so sad and one-party without him 
in there.

I spent election day building up my new to me Ram. Had trouble with the metal 
fenders and front rack so I took the vo rack back and ordered a Mark's rack. 
Hope it works!

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