[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-07 Thread stevef


 Here's the bike with the fattys on 
 it.http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/6860650144_3fd1cbb6d8_c.jpg



That's a beautiful bike for sure!  Nice metallic color.  I'm a fan of Fizik 
Microtex bartape, usually over their gel pads and there are a couple of 
metallic colors that would look fantastic on that bike.  Try the metal red 
or blue, or maybe the light blue.  Or go understated with one of the 
European market-only browns?  

http://www.fizik.com/accessories/bartapes/Bar-Tape/

Steve 

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[RBW] Re: WTT - Mustache/Dream bars for Albas; Technomic and Dirt Drop stems.

2013-02-07 Thread C.J. Filip
Looking for the same quill length.  The Dynamic looks a bit short on
rise.  Sorry!

I should add that all of the above stems and bars are 26.0mm clamp
diameter.

The 10cm Technomic/Tallux stem is gone.

Still eager to swap bars.

On Feb 6, 10:43 pm, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have a brand new in bag Nitto Dynamic 13cm stem if you want to trade for
  the 10cm Technomic you have.

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[RBW] Re: Ride to Visit My Son

2013-02-07 Thread Leslie
John,

You have my deepest condolences.   

I hope you and your family heal from this tragedy.


-L


On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:50:40 PM UTC-5, John wrote:

 We were lucky to have a sunny day in the 60's here in NE Alabama 
 yesterday.  I took a nice long ride on my Ram to visit my 16 year-old son, 
 Alex.  Sadly, that ride was to the cemetary because Alex accidentally 
 killed himself a week ago today while playing the choking game.  If you 
 have kids or young adults in your life, please talk to them about the 
 dangers of this practice.  We had talked to Alex about this, but when 
 you're 16 the concept of death is tough to grasp.  Alex was a happy, 
 well-adjusted, smart young man who made one last tragic mistake.  Please 
 talk to your famiy so this doesn't happen again.
  
 Thanks for your support while my family struggles through this.
  
 John


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[RBW] No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread RJM
I was checking the website today and noticed no bombadil. Say it aint so, 
joe. Say it aint so.
 
This saddens me as the next bike I was thinking of getting after I get my 
Roadeo built up was the bombadil. I guess the Hunqapillar can do most of 
what the Bomb does though. Anybody know the scoop?

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Re: [RBW] No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Peter Morgano
I just went there myself and had a sad, there is a small note on the bottom
of the page though. Where's the Bombadil? It's still available, but
somewhat semi-custom. Contact br...@rivbike.com for pricing. Around $3k.

I guess it makes sense with the Hunq coming in a more friendly price point
and having alot of the capabilities, albeit not the awesome 650bness.

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:31 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was checking the website today and noticed no bombadil. Say it aint so,
 joe. Say it aint so.

 This saddens me as the next bike I was thinking of getting after I get my
 Roadeo built up was the bombadil. I guess the Hunqapillar can do most of
 what the Bomb does though. Anybody know the scoop?

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Re: [RBW] No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Peter Morgano
Not to pat myself on the back but I predicted this a while ago, its just
steep climb from the Hunq to the Bombadil and probably a niche market. That
said I love my Bombadil, only one more week until its back from paint.

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just went there myself and had a sad, there is a small note on the
 bottom of the page though. Where's the Bombadil? It's still available, but
 somewhat semi-custom. Contact br...@rivbike.com for pricing. Around $3k.

 I guess it makes sense with the Hunq coming in a more friendly price point
 and having alot of the capabilities, albeit not the awesome 650bness.

 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:31 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was checking the website today and noticed no bombadil. Say it aint so,
 joe. Say it aint so.

 This saddens me as the next bike I was thinking of getting after I get my
 Roadeo built up was the bombadil. I guess the Hunqapillar can do most of
 what the Bomb does though. Anybody know the scoop?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride to Visit My Son

2013-02-07 Thread Scott Henry
John,
Thank you for sharing.  I cannot imagine what you are feeling.  I'm so
sorry.

Alex just earned my two kids an extra hug tonight.
Scott



On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

 John,

 You have my deepest condolences.

 I hope you and your family heal from this tragedy.


 -L



 On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:50:40 PM UTC-5, John wrote:

 We were lucky to have a sunny day in the 60's here in NE Alabama
 yesterday.  I took a nice long ride on my Ram to visit my 16 year-old son,
 Alex.  Sadly, that ride was to the cemetary because Alex accidentally
 killed himself a week ago today while playing the choking game.  If you
 have kids or young adults in your life, please talk to them about the
 dangers of this practice.  We had talked to Alex about this, but when
 you're 16 the concept of death is tough to grasp.  Alex was a happy,
 well-adjusted, smart young man who made one last tragic mistake.  Please
 talk to your famiy so this doesn't happen again.

 Thanks for your support while my family struggles through this.

 John

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Mike
I always felt they kinda missed the boat with the Bombadil. Originally I 
figured it would just be a slightly altered version of the Bridgestone MB, 
maybe with more braze-ons and heavy duty tubing. The TT lengths seemed 
exceptionally long for the given sizes and the clearances didn't seem to be 
as wide as they should be. The extra tubes seemed odd at first but now I'm 
fine with them. The Hunqa seems a better thought out bike in terms of 
sizing and clearances. I realize a lot of this is subjective. 

All that said, about 2 yrs ago I was close to pulling the trigger on a 
Hunqa, had the funds and green light from my wife, but instead went with an 
LHT. I've been happy with the LHT but there are times I wish I had gone 
with the Hunqa...

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Peter Morgano
LHT is perfectly functional bike, very well balanced, but not the lugged
goodness of the Hunq.  I dont think the Bombadil was ever intended as a
DH or all terrain bike especialy since its a fully rigid frame and all but
more of a rough stuff bike.  It is strange that the clearances werent at
least in the high 50s but for my usage its great. I do still have my MB2
however if I ever want to go all MTBing, which the older I get is less
appealing.

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I always felt they kinda missed the boat with the Bombadil. Originally I
 figured it would just be a slightly altered version of the Bridgestone MB,
 maybe with more braze-ons and heavy duty tubing. The TT lengths seemed
 exceptionally long for the given sizes and the clearances didn't seem to be
 as wide as they should be. The extra tubes seemed odd at first but now I'm
 fine with them. The Hunqa seems a better thought out bike in terms of
 sizing and clearances. I realize a lot of this is subjective.

 All that said, about 2 yrs ago I was close to pulling the trigger on a
 Hunqa, had the funds and green light from my wife, but instead went with an
 LHT. I've been happy with the LHT but there are times I wish I had gone
 with the Hunqa...

 --mike

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Tom Harrop
I guess they were building them to order anyway...

It's also their only bike for tall riders other than the AHH. I wouldn't 
fit on a Hunq (or a Surly).

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[RBW] Attaching SKS style front fender to a recessed brake bolt nut (Betty Foy)

2013-02-07 Thread Adam
Out of curiosity what type of steering damper do you use/recommend?

Thanks,
Adam

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Tom Harrop
And my Bomba has clearance for 60 mm big apples with fenders and room to 
spare.

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Garth

They killed the Bomba with the Hunq really.   With a $500 difference 
between it and a full custom, why not just get the custom and tweak it 
exactly as you want ?  
BTW ... the TT really isn't that long.  The Hunq TT is even longer, at 
least comparing the 60cm Bomba to the 62cm Hunq. The specs page was 
incorrect, according to what Keven told me.Either way  the TT's are 
perfect for upright bars, where you need a longer TT and stem . 

The original Atlantis frame had a longer TT than the current ones, they 
should have kept it as it was :) 

All that said, they could have kept the Bomba as a production bike . It 
started out at just over $1000, then just skyrocketed to 3K.   Head 
scratching  lol.  But now the Hunq appears to be going the same path 
.. 

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Re: [RBW] No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread RJM
Just saw the note. It is good that they are keeping it on a limited basis, 
I think it is a cool bike.  
 
You know, my size for a bombadil would be the 48cm, so I think the pricing 
would still be in the lower 2k mark. I like the Bombadil name, but like the 
headbadge of the Hunqapillar more. Go figure.

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[RBW] Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Salween
Don't know if Grant and Co. will ever produce a tandem, so in the meantime 
will be getting one elsewhere. 

Seems like most tandems out there follow the skinny tire theme, with the 
exception of R+E in Seattle and Bilenky in Philadelphia, and even their 
tire clearances don't seem to push as far north as nearly all Riv singles. 
So wondering if there are any tandem riders here and what tire widths they 
prefer. On my Sam I ride 33/35mm tires often on marginal roads. So 
wondering what that might translate to on a 700c tandem?

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread RJM
LHT wouldn't really be ideal for what I would want a Bombadil for, which 
would be a singletrack trailriding bike. I asked Brian a few months ago 
(before I ordered the Roadeo) about getting either a Hunq or Bomb. He said 
he rides his Hunq all over the trails and it does great. I may go that 
route when I get the money to get another Riv. I may just save up for a 
custom mountain mixte in 650b though. That would rock. 
 

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 9:20:42 AM UTC-6, Mike wrote:

 I always felt they kinda missed the boat with the Bombadil. Originally I 
 figured it would just be a slightly altered version of the Bridgestone MB, 
 maybe with more braze-ons and heavy duty tubing. The TT lengths seemed 
 exceptionally long for the given sizes and the clearances didn't seem to be 
 as wide as they should be. The extra tubes seemed odd at first but now I'm 
 fine with them. The Hunqa seems a better thought out bike in terms of 
 sizing and clearances. I realize a lot of this is subjective.  

 All that said, about 2 yrs ago I was close to pulling the trigger on a 
 Hunqa, had the funds and green light from my wife, but instead went with an 
 LHT. I've been happy with the LHT but there are times I wish I had gone 
 with the Hunqa...

 --mike


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Re: [RBW] Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Kenneth Stagg
I much prefer wider tires - our current Bushnell is running 26x1.5s -
but that's nothing compared to how much my dear stoker prefers the
wider tires.  The real issue is having it designed to actually play
well with those wider tires - just increasing the width on a bike
designed for 25c tires whacks the handling.

-Ken

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Salween
owen%livingrivers@gtempaccount.com wrote:
 Don't know if Grant and Co. will ever produce a tandem, so in the meantime
 will be getting one elsewhere.

 Seems like most tandems out there follow the skinny tire theme, with the
 exception of R+E in Seattle and Bilenky in Philadelphia, and even their tire
 clearances don't seem to push as far north as nearly all Riv singles. So
 wondering if there are any tandem riders here and what tire widths they
 prefer. On my Sam I ride 33/35mm tires often on marginal roads. So wondering
 what that might translate to on a 700c tandem?

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Re: [RBW] Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Steven Frederick
Anne and I have a Co-motion Mocha, a model built with road geometry and 26
wheels.  We run Panaracer Pasela 1.75 on everything from pavement to mild
singletrack and they work great.  There's room for slightly bigger tires or
fenders--it's not built with tons of clearance but it ain't bad.

CoMotion's experience with twofers really shows-it rides and handles a lot
nicer than the old Cannondale MTB tandem we had.

If you want fat tires, maybe a disc braked, 700c model would make for a
good 650b conversion?  It's an idea I've toyed with...

Steve

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Salween 
owen%livingrivers@gtempaccount.com wrote:

 Don't know if Grant and Co. will ever produce a tandem, so in the meantime
 will be getting one elsewhere.

 Seems like most tandems out there follow the skinny tire theme, with the
 exception of R+E in Seattle and Bilenky in Philadelphia, and even their
 tire clearances don't seem to push as far north as nearly all Riv singles.
 So wondering if there are any tandem riders here and what tire widths they
 prefer. On my Sam I ride 33/35mm tires often on marginal roads. So
 wondering what that might translate to on a 700c tandem?

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Garth
BTW ... The Bomba was intended and is for rough riding :-)   

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bombadil/index.html

http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr39_pg44.jpg

http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr39_pg45.jpg

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Having ridden my 2TT Bomba (60cm), for the past 2-3 years, I've never been 
able to place it in any one category.  Granted mine is sized and configured 
as more of a roadish bike, I'd say it stands alone as a unique breed unto 
itself. I'd never consider taking my Bomba on the same rocky and technical 
trails I typically ride my mountain bike on, but I seldom hesitate to load 
it up with gear and take it off-road through moderately rough terrain, out 
for leisurely spins, to the store or my favorite pub, or on a road ride 
with my go-fast friends... *(although I do have to keep reminding them, 
Guys... why don't you just slow down and ENJOY the ride, please?...)*

Nah, the Bombadil ain't the MB, and I don't think of it as a road bike OR a 
mountain bike...*it simply ain't like any other bike... *  

BB

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 10:20:42 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:

 I always felt they kinda missed the boat with the Bombadil. Originally I 
 figured it would just be a slightly altered version of the Bridgestone MB, 
 maybe with more braze-ons and heavy duty tubing. The TT lengths seemed 
 exceptionally long for the given sizes and the clearances didn't seem to be 
 as wide as they should be. The extra tubes seemed odd at first but now I'm 
 fine with them. The Hunqa seems a better thought out bike in terms of 
 sizing and clearances. I realize a lot of this is subjective. 

 All that said, about 2 yrs ago I was close to pulling the trigger on a 
 Hunqa, had the funds and green light from my wife, but instead went with an 
 LHT. I've been happy with the LHT but there are times I wish I had gone 
 with the Hunqa...

 --mike


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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread William
MBB knows what's up.  

I'm delighted with my Bombadil.  

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:39:44 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Having ridden my 2TT Bomba (60cm), for the past 2-3 years, I've never been 
 able to place it in any one category.  Granted mine is sized and configured 
 as more of a roadish bike, I'd say it stands alone as a unique breed unto 
 itself. I'd never consider taking my Bomba on the same rocky and technical 
 trails I typically ride my mountain bike on, but I seldom hesitate to load 
 it up with gear and take it off-road through moderately rough terrain, out 
 for leisurely spins, to the store or my favorite pub, or on a road ride 
 with my go-fast friends... *(although I do have to keep reminding them, 
 Guys... why don't you just slow down and ENJOY the ride, please?...)*

 Nah, the Bombadil ain't the MB, and I don't think of it as a road bike OR 
 a mountain bike...*it simply ain't like any other bike... *  

 BB

 On Thursday, February 7, 2013 10:20:42 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:

 I always felt they kinda missed the boat with the Bombadil. Originally I 
 figured it would just be a slightly altered version of the Bridgestone MB, 
 maybe with more braze-ons and heavy duty tubing. The TT lengths seemed 
 exceptionally long for the given sizes and the clearances didn't seem to be 
 as wide as they should be. The extra tubes seemed odd at first but now I'm 
 fine with them. The Hunqa seems a better thought out bike in terms of 
 sizing and clearances. I realize a lot of this is subjective. 

 All that said, about 2 yrs ago I was close to pulling the trigger on a 
 Hunqa, had the funds and green light from my wife, but instead went with an 
 LHT. I've been happy with the LHT but there are times I wish I had gone 
 with the Hunqa...

 --mike



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[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-07 Thread Esteban
Now, that's a Rivendell.  I wouldn't change a damn thing - totally dialed 
in.  Woodchippers would give you more drop, but if you find the Moustache 
bars acceptable, they provide many more hand positions.  With drop bar 
MTB bars, you're in the hooks almost exclusively. 



On Monday, February 4, 2013 4:42:15 PM UTC-8, jinxed wrote:

 Over the last 5-6 months I have spent the majority of miles on the cross 
 bike. Did some racing, but mainly a bunch of mixed path/singletrack riding. 
 I have enjoyed it so much, and surprisingly become very comfortable with 
 drop bars off road. That said, I am thinking of switching up the All 
 Rounder for the upcoming spring-summer season.

 I've been riding it with my go to mustache bar setup, and some 40mm 
 marathonesque Bontrager tires. Essentially X01 in nature. I'm thinking 
 about throwing back on the fatty knobs and switching to something like a 
 woodchipper drop bar with some new style canecreek levers. Sort of a 
 monstercross I guess?

 I keep wanting to add some (additional) color to the bike with the bar 
 wrap, but the yellow of the frame is an extremely STRONG hue to get along 
 with. I've tried black, white, and natural cork, but meh. I was considering 
 trying to find one of those green brooks and matching the bars. Maybe a 
 dk.green / celery green harlequin would be cool??

 Hit me up on your woodchipper thoughts and aesthetic preponderances!

 Here's the bike with the fattys on 
 it.http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/6860650144_3fd1cbb6d8_c.jpg




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RE: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Nah, the Bombadil ain't the MB, and I don't think of it as a road bike OR a 
mountain bike...it simply ain't like any other bike...

True of a lot of Rivendells, it seems to me.  Bomba, for sure.  The 
(I-hope-still-on-the-horizon) Appaloosa, for sure.  Quickbeam, for sure.  But 
even the more conventional Riv bikes are in important ways different from 
(and for me, better) than their genre and sub-genre counterparts.  Granted, my 
experience is not anywhere near as wide-ranging as many on this list.



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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil

MBB knows what's up.

I'm delighted with my Bombadil.

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:39:44 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
Having ridden my 2TT Bomba (60cm), for the past 2-3 years, I've never been able 
to place it in any one category.  Granted mine is sized and configured as more 
of a roadish bike, I'd say it stands alone as a unique breed unto itself. I'd 
never consider taking my Bomba on the same rocky and technical trails I 
typically ride my mountain bike on, but I seldom hesitate to load it up with 
gear and take it off-road through moderately rough terrain, out for leisurely 
spins, to the store or my favorite pub, or on a road ride with my go-fast 
friends... (although I do have to keep reminding them, Guys... why don't you 
just slow down and ENJOY the ride, please?...)

Nah, the Bombadil ain't the MB, and I don't think of it as a road bike OR a 
mountain bike...it simply ain't like any other bike...

BB

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 10:20:42 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
I always felt they kinda missed the boat with the Bombadil. Originally I 
figured it would just be a slightly altered version of the Bridgestone MB, 
maybe with more braze-ons and heavy duty tubing. The TT lengths seemed 
exceptionally long for the given sizes and the clearances didn't seem to be as 
wide as they should be. The extra tubes seemed odd at first but now I'm fine 
with them. The Hunqa seems a better thought out bike in terms of sizing and 
clearances. I realize a lot of this is subjective.

All that said, about 2 yrs ago I was close to pulling the trigger on a Hunqa, 
had the funds and green light from my wife, but instead went with an LHT. I've 
been happy with the LHT but there are times I wish I had gone with the Hunqa...

--mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-07 Thread Bertin753
The Midges give me 4 hand positions including the very relaxing flats position.

Patrick Moore
iPhone

On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now, that's a Rivendell.  I wouldn't change a damn thing - totally dialed in. 
  Woodchippers would give you more drop, but if you find the Moustache bars 
 acceptable, they provide many more hand positions.  With drop bar MTB bars, 
 you're in the hooks almost exclusively. 
 
 
 
 On Monday, February 4, 2013 4:42:15 PM UTC-8, jinxed wrote:
 
 Over the last 5-6 months I have spent the majority of miles on the cross 
 bike. Did some racing, but mainly a bunch of mixed path/singletrack riding. 
 I have enjoyed it so much, and surprisingly become very comfortable with 
 drop bars off road. That said, I am thinking of switching up the All Rounder 
 for the upcoming spring-summer season.
 
 I've been riding it with my go to mustache bar setup, and some 40mm 
 marathonesque Bontrager tires. Essentially X01 in nature. I'm thinking about 
 throwing back on the fatty knobs and switching to something like a 
 woodchipper drop bar with some new style canecreek levers. Sort of a 
 monstercross I guess?
 
 I keep wanting to add some (additional) color to the bike with the bar wrap, 
 but the yellow of the frame is an extremely STRONG hue to get along with. 
 I've tried black, white, and natural cork, but meh. I was considering trying 
 to find one of those green brooks and matching the bars. Maybe a dk.green / 
 celery green harlequin would be cool??
 
 Hit me up on your woodchipper thoughts and aesthetic preponderances!
 
 Here's the bike with the fattys on it.
 
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[RBW] Twin Hollow odd rim well performance question (the rim, not the question, ha ha!).

2013-02-07 Thread Michael
 
*http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=592*http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=592
 
Note the trough rim well running at the bottom of the rim. An odd shape for 
a rim well.
The rim tape doesn't fill this, and was wondering what effect, if any, this 
has on the tire/wheel performance, with the tube shaped so strangely when 
inflated, being settled into that trough.
 
Maybe Jan will do a rim well study one day.
I know he did one in reference to bead seating.

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-07 Thread Jeremy Till
I'm with Esteban-- I love how the All-Rounder looks with Moustache bars.  
If you're comfortable on them now, I'd say keep 'em.  Consider yourself 
lucky--a lot of people just don't find them comfortable.  

Woodchippers are cool bars for the right bike (something like a Salsa 
Fargo, Singular Gryphon, or custom Matt Chester drop bar fixed gear 
monstercrosser) but aesthetically I find them a bit weird, they don't jive 
with the classic level TT design of an early Riv.  In any case, as others 
have pointed out, it can be difficult to get them to play well with certain 
quill stems.  

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:57:35 AM UTC-8, Esteban wrote:

 Now, that's a Rivendell.  I wouldn't change a damn thing - totally dialed 
 in.  Woodchippers would give you more drop, but if you find the Moustache 
 bars acceptable, they provide many more hand positions.  With drop bar 
 MTB bars, you're in the hooks almost exclusively. 



 On Monday, February 4, 2013 4:42:15 PM UTC-8, jinxed wrote:

 Over the last 5-6 months I have spent the majority of miles on the cross 
 bike. Did some racing, but mainly a bunch of mixed path/singletrack riding. 
 I have enjoyed it so much, and surprisingly become very comfortable with 
 drop bars off road. That said, I am thinking of switching up the All 
 Rounder for the upcoming spring-summer season.

 I've been riding it with my go to mustache bar setup, and some 40mm 
 marathonesque Bontrager tires. Essentially X01 in nature. I'm thinking 
 about throwing back on the fatty knobs and switching to something like a 
 woodchipper drop bar with some new style canecreek levers. Sort of a 
 monstercross I guess?

 I keep wanting to add some (additional) color to the bike with the bar 
 wrap, but the yellow of the frame is an extremely STRONG hue to get along 
 with. I've tried black, white, and natural cork, but meh. I was considering 
 trying to find one of those green brooks and matching the bars. Maybe a 
 dk.green / celery green harlequin would be cool??

 Hit me up on your woodchipper thoughts and aesthetic preponderances!

 Here's the bike with the fattys on 
 it.http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/6860650144_3fd1cbb6d8_c.jpg




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Re: [RBW] Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-07 Thread Jim M.
On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 5:38:54 PM UTC-8, Erin R wrote:

 Pudge,I'm newer to this page and would sure appreciate knowing where you 
 found your celery green handle bar tape, and maybe a brand name if 
 possible. Its really pretty.  Thank you so very much. Erin


Soma still has the Japanese cloth tape: 
http://store.somafab.com/vivatape.html

They call the color olive, not celery. 

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[RBW] Re: Twin Hollow odd rim well performance question (the rim, not the question, ha ha!).

2013-02-07 Thread Jeremy Till
Actually, this is a fairly common design for single-wall rims.  With such 
rims, you don't need rim tape that goes from wall to wall, just one that is 
wide enough to go between the two hollows and cover the spoke heads.  
That provides a somewhat even platform, but in any case I doubt it has any 
significant effect on tire performance.  Tubes are flexible enough that 
they fill pretty much any space without any problems or change in feel, for 
a given tire pressure.  As far as I know, the only rim parameter that does 
change how a tire will feel is rim width, as this changes the profile of 
the tire significantly.  

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 9:11:03 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote:

  
 *http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=592*http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=592
  
 Note the trough rim well running at the bottom of the rim. An odd shape 
 for a rim well.
 The rim tape doesn't fill this, and was wondering what effect, if any, 
 this has on the tire/wheel performance, with the tube shaped so strangely 
 when inflated, being settled into that trough.
  
 Maybe Jan will do a rim well study one day.
 I know he did one in reference to bead seating.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride to Visit My Son

2013-02-07 Thread Bruce Baker
John,
 I am so sorry to hear about your loss.  I have two children that are 30
and 28 and everyday I count my blessings that they are safe and healthy.
My condolences to your family and may God Bless.
Bruce

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote:

 John,
 Thank you for sharing.  I cannot imagine what you are feeling.  I'm so
 sorry.

 Alex just earned my two kids an extra hug tonight.
 Scott



 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

 John,

 You have my deepest condolences.

 I hope you and your family heal from this tragedy.


 -L



 On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:50:40 PM UTC-5, John wrote:

 We were lucky to have a sunny day in the 60's here in NE Alabama
 yesterday.  I took a nice long ride on my Ram to visit my 16 year-old son,
 Alex.  Sadly, that ride was to the cemetary because Alex accidentally
 killed himself a week ago today while playing the choking game.  If you
 have kids or young adults in your life, please talk to them about the
 dangers of this practice.  We had talked to Alex about this, but when
 you're 16 the concept of death is tough to grasp.  Alex was a happy,
 well-adjusted, smart young man who made one last tragic mistake.  Please
 talk to your famiy so this doesn't happen again.

 Thanks for your support while my family struggles through this.

 John

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[RBW] Re: Twin Hollow odd rim well performance question (the rim, not the question, ha ha!).

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Well, a typical single-wall rim is lighter and flexier than a typical 
double-wall rim. For all the talk about frame flex, planing, etc, not to 
mention tire weight and suppleness, perhaps something could be said for a 
similar batch of effects from flexy single wall rims.

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Re: [RBW] Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
PS: here's my slightly modified Santana Arriva.
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/twowheelflight/4707219723/

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Re: [RBW] Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Scot Brooks
Jim, that is AWESOME!!!

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Re: [RBW] Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Tom Harrop
That is stupendous! Could you not get some more chain rings on it, though?

Is that threadless stem + dirt drop + albatross at the back?

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[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread William
Sadly my Ibis Touche won't take much wider than a Jack Brown.  I have Jack 
Browns on there now, and a set of 35mm Paselas in the stash.  If I could 
wave my magic wand at the rear triangle to make room for 45mm tires, I 
would.  The fork is ready to take fatties.  I guess all I need is to move 
the bridges and squish the chainstays, which is a maneuver any number of 
framebuilders could execute for me.  

On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:53:35 PM UTC-8, Salween wrote:

 Don't know if Grant and Co. will ever produce a tandem, so in the meantime 
 will be getting one elsewhere. 

 Seems like most tandems out there follow the skinny tire theme, with the 
 exception of R+E in Seattle and Bilenky in Philadelphia, and even their 
 tire clearances don't seem to push as far north as nearly all Riv singles. 
 So wondering if there are any tandem riders here and what tire widths they 
 prefer. On my Sam I ride 33/35mm tires often on marginal roads. So 
 wondering what that might translate to on a 700c tandem?


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[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread dailyrandonneur
We like Pasela Tourguard 700 x 32s for most of our tandeming. Our old 
Co-Motion Speedster from 2006 accepted those tires with fenders but not 
35s. 

To run bigger tires we recently upgraded to modified Co-Motion Java. They 
changed it a couple of years ago from a 26/559 wheel model to 700c/29er.

Rides great with the same 700 x 32s, but can take up to 700 x 50mm+ if we 
wish.  Co-Motion bills the Java as a touring/offroad tandem.

We added a lateral tube to stiffen the frame some more, though Dwan said 
the Java is already stiffer than the Speedster.  The ride is still pretty 
nice, and it doesn't flex as much when we stand up. 

Ed 
Washington, DC


On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:53:35 AM UTC-5, Salween wrote:

 Don't know if Grant and Co. will ever produce a tandem, so in the meantime 
 will be getting one elsewhere. 

 Seems like most tandems out there follow the skinny tire theme, with the 
 exception of R+E in Seattle and Bilenky in Philadelphia, and even their 
 tire clearances don't seem to push as far north as nearly all Riv singles. 
 So wondering if there are any tandem riders here and what tire widths they 
 prefer. On my Sam I ride 33/35mm tires often on marginal roads. So 
 wondering what that might translate to on a 700c tandem?


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[RBW] Geometry charts

2013-02-07 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
After some fruitless web searching, I'm stumped - does anyone have access to 
Riv Wilbury geometry charts?

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[RBW] Re: Geometry charts

2013-02-07 Thread William
From the Riv Reader index:

http://www.rivbike.com/Articles.asp?ID=295

I can see there's a Wilbury/Glorious article in RR#34.  You probably got 
that far.  

Aside from that, I bet one of the usual suspects would give you the info 
you seek with the right phone call and/or email.  

Bill

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  After some fruitless web searching, I’m stumped – does anyone have 
 access to Riv Wilbury geometry charts?
  
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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Mike
The Bridgestone MBs weren't designed around suspension forks. I had an
MB2 for years with a Softride suspension stem which was great. I never
expected the Bombadil to be a bike for a suspension fork, just
expected it to be different than what was released. I liked the
original prototype that was posted in one of the RRs.

As for clearance, I seem to remember that it couldn't handle a 2.25
tire. Perhaps I'm wrong. It just seems if you were gonna make a
mountain bike you'd want it to be able to handle a tire that size
with clearance for mud.

And yeah, as I said, the sizing stuff is somewhat subjective. The
Hunqapillar works better for me than the Bombadil, especially for
running drop bars. But that's just me.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Geometry charts

2013-02-07 Thread Mike
 On Thursday, February 7, 2013 11:27:47 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:

   After some fruitless web searching, I’m stumped – does anyone have
  access to Riv Wilbury geometry charts?

They might be somwhere on Jim's site:

www.cyclofiend.com

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[RBW] Re: WTT - Mustache/Dream bars for Albas; Technomic and Dirt Drop stems.

2013-02-07 Thread numbnuts
C.J.,
I have a steel Alba and a 135mm Cinelli circa mid 80s I could use as trade. 
Any interest?

Regards,
Chris

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[RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)

2013-02-07 Thread Minh
Ok, so in the middle of winter tweaking, has anyone installed a fender wedge, 
http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-520/Fender-Wedge-for-underside/Detail 
on a Hillborne?  I can't figure out how to position it to get it to fit, i'd 
like to replace the rubber washer and get the fender a little tighter in that 
one spot.

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Re: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Mather
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 As for clearance, I seem to remember that it couldn't handle a 2.25
 tire.

My Bombadil easily handles 2.25 knobbies. Not with fenders, but if I'm
running big knobs I don't want fenders.

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Montclair BobbyB
montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd never consider taking my Bomba on the same rocky and technical
 trails I typically ride my mountain bike on,

Why not? The Bomba is a stronger mtb than anything from the '80s or
early '90s, and it's certainly as good as any rigid mtb made today. I
used to have a full-squish mtb, and I have a lightweight rigid SS
29er. I take my Bomba everywhere I'd take either of those bikes. With
a rigid bike, I won't ride as fast over some rough spots, and I'll
walk down some drops I could ride with suspension.

The next iteration of my Bomba will include drop bars and Hetres, to
see what kind of rando bike it can be. The flexibility of the Riv
designs is a bunch of the fun for me.

happy trails
jim m
wc ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Matthew J
 I dont think the Bombadil was ever intended as a DH or all terrain 
bike especialy since its a fully rigid frame and all but more of a 
 rough stuff bike.  
Suspension most likely is here to stay for racing, but all rigid MTBs are 
making a strong come back of late. 

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[RBW] Fork crown fender mount - which Rivs?

2013-02-07 Thread Michael
Any Riv models come with one of those fork fender mounts?

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[RBW] Re: Considering selling: my 59 Bleriot frame/fork

2013-02-07 Thread colinthehippie
Kyle,

I missed your post.  email me off list and I'll get you some pics.

colinthehip...@gmail.com

On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:57:59 PM UTC-6, Kyle Adkins wrote:

 Do you have pictures of the framed. I am interested 

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Re: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Jim M.
On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:36:43 PM UTC-8, Matthew J wrote:

  I dont think the Bombadil was ever intended as a DH or all terrain 
 bike especialy since its a fully rigid frame and all but more of a 
  rough stuff bike.  
 Suspension most likely is here to stay for racing, but all rigid MTBs are 
 making a strong come back of late. 


For downhill, there is the Rivendell Sauron:

http://sheldonbrown.com/nanodrive/rivendell-sauron.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread William
With nanodrive!  

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:59:05 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

 On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:36:43 PM UTC-8, Matthew J wrote:

  I dont think the Bombadil was ever intended as a DH or all terrain 
 bike especialy since its a fully rigid frame and all but more of a 
  rough stuff bike.  
 Suspension most likely is here to stay for racing, but all rigid MTBs are 
 making a strong come back of late. 


 For downhill, there is the Rivendell Sauron:

 http://sheldonbrown.com/nanodrive/rivendell-sauron.jpg



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[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Jan Heine
Speaking of Bilenky, we tested one of their tandems. It was equipped with 
42 mm Grand Bois Hetre tires. We used it in a 300 km brevet, and set a 
course record for that (hilly) course on it. I rode Paris-Brest-Paris on a 
1946 René Herse tandem with 38 mm tires, but that was only because 42s 
weren't available then...

Photo of the Bilenky is here: http://www.bikequarterly.com/test_bikes.html

And the Herse tandem is here: 
http://janheine.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/pbpcornervillagemed.jpg

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
www.bikequarterly.com

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[RBW] Re: Ride to Visit My Son

2013-02-07 Thread ascpgh
Extremely moved by your loss, awareness, motivation to inform and educate 
at a time so proximate to your loss. I work with kids in a setting 
providing the opportunity to talk about choices and consequences. Your son 
will continue to influence others as a result and you should find peace in 
that at this time of utter loss.

Andy
Pittsburgh



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RE: [RBW] Ride to Visit My Son

2013-02-07 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
John:

Words fail me - I can't express my deep sadness and regret over the loss of 
your son.  And I can't imagine how you found the courage to talk about it so 
soon after that loss - but please know that your determination to speak up will 
help others.  I'll be talking to my almost 13 year old daughter tonight, and 
the conversation will be real and concrete because you found a way to try to 
help others.  Thank you.

Tom

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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:51 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Ride to Visit My Son

We were lucky to have a sunny day in the 60's here in NE Alabama yesterday.  I 
took a nice long ride on my Ram to visit my 16 year-old son, Alex.  Sadly, that 
ride was to the cemetary because Alex accidentally killed himself a week ago 
today while playing the choking game.  If you have kids or young adults in 
your life, please talk to them about the dangers of this practice.  We had 
talked to Alex about this, but when you're 16 the concept of death is tough to 
grasp.  Alex was a happy, well-adjusted, smart young man who made one last 
tragic mistake.  Please talk to your famiy so this doesn't happen again.

Thanks for your support while my family struggles through this.

John
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[RBW] Calling All Patrick Moores!

2013-02-07 Thread Liesl
Hey Patrick, I'm here in ABQ for a blink.  Whatcha doin after 5:00?  I'm at 
a downtown hotel.  Perhaps we could meet in the flesh and I could report 
back to the group and confirm that you do in fact exist!

liesl

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Re: [RBW] Calling All Patrick Moores!

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Mather
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
  I could report
 back to the group and confirm that you do in fact exist!

What? Patrick's not a creation of our collective subconscious?

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[RBW] JBK Haleiwa Metric Century 2013

2013-02-07 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Aloha all...

I'll be riding in the JBK Haleiwa Metric Century again this year at the end
of April. For those who may not know it's a ride around the north shore of
the island of Oahu in Hawaii. The route is generally lovely, mostly flat,
and one of my favorite places to ride - I do it fairly often without the
whole group thing.

Thing is, I got to chatting with a friend and now he wants to do it and is
probably going to ride his fixie (not a Rivendell but he's getting closer
and closer, his fixie now has a basket).

I've ridden the route (with and without the whole group bit) many times on
my Quickbeam, my Bike Friday NWT, and never on my Hunqapillar (though I've
done other long rides on it).

If I ride the QB I'll more or less match my friend. If I ride my BF I can
say I'm working out the bugs for my second RAGBRAI later this year. If I
ride my Hunq it'll be a new experience.

Just for fun I threw together a survey and decided to give everyone a
chance to pick my bike. To be fair I'm sending this to the Bike Friday list
as well. ;-)

Help me choose my bike...(with pictures)

Bike Choice Survey http://www.statrix.com/whichbike.htm

Aloha!



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Honolulu, HI
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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Matt Beebe
*And yeah, as I said, the sizing stuff is somewhat subjective. The 
Hunqapillar works better for me than the Bombadil, especially for 
running drop bars. But that's just me.*

The Bombadil has a slightly shorter TT relative to ST than the Hunqapillar, 
so I'd prefer it for running drop bars. That's what I have on mine 
(Nitto Noodles).   I also have 2.3 Pacenti Neo-Motos on it, and while the 
chainstay clearance is a little close, they work great.



On Thursday, February 7, 2013 3:37:20 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote:

 The Bridgestone MBs weren't designed around suspension forks. I had an 
 MB2 for years with a Softride suspension stem which was great. I never 
 expected the Bombadil to be a bike for a suspension fork, just 
 expected it to be different than what was released. I liked the 
 original prototype that was posted in one of the RRs. 

 As for clearance, I seem to remember that it couldn't handle a 2.25 
 tire. Perhaps I'm wrong. It just seems if you were gonna make a 
 mountain bike you'd want it to be able to handle a tire that size 
 with clearance for mud. 

 And yeah, as I said, the sizing stuff is somewhat subjective. The 
 Hunqapillar works better for me than the Bombadil, especially for 
 running drop bars. But that's just me. 

 --mike 


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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Matt Beebe
That being said, I do agree that the Hunqapillar is a killer bike which 
offers all of the awesomeness of the Bombadil, so the lineup still has the 
O.G. mountain bike category covered even without the B.



On Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:56:34 PM UTC-5, Matt Beebe wrote:

 *And yeah, as I said, the sizing stuff is somewhat subjective. The 
 Hunqapillar works better for me than the Bombadil, especially for 
 running drop bars. But that's just me.*

 The Bombadil has a slightly shorter TT relative to ST than the 
 Hunqapillar, so I'd prefer it for running drop bars. That's what I have 
 on mine (Nitto Noodles).   I also have 2.3 Pacenti Neo-Motos on it, and 
 while the chainstay clearance is a little close, they work great.



 On Thursday, February 7, 2013 3:37:20 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote:

 The Bridgestone MBs weren't designed around suspension forks. I had an 
 MB2 for years with a Softride suspension stem which was great. I never 
 expected the Bombadil to be a bike for a suspension fork, just 
 expected it to be different than what was released. I liked the 
 original prototype that was posted in one of the RRs. 

 As for clearance, I seem to remember that it couldn't handle a 2.25 
 tire. Perhaps I'm wrong. It just seems if you were gonna make a 
 mountain bike you'd want it to be able to handle a tire that size 
 with clearance for mud. 

 And yeah, as I said, the sizing stuff is somewhat subjective. The 
 Hunqapillar works better for me than the Bombadil, especially for 
 running drop bars. But that's just me. 

 --mike 



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Re: [RBW] Calling All Patrick Moores!

2013-02-07 Thread Eric Norris
For the record, Patrick *does* exist. I think.

Patrick (or at least, someone who *said* he was Patrick) hosted me for a very 
nice ride along the Bosque in ABQ when I was there a couple of years ago on a 
business trip. 

Very nice guy, whoever he is.

--Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Hey Patrick, I'm here in ABQ for a blink.  Whatcha doin after 5:00?  I'm at a 
 downtown hotel.  Perhaps we could meet in the flesh and I could report back 
 to the group and confirm that you do in fact exist!
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 14:07 -0800, Jan Heine wrote:
 Speaking of Bilenky, we tested one of their tandems. It was equipped
 with 42 mm Grand Bois Hetre tires. 

And, tying this to the current blog entry, that Bilenky was at NAHBS and
in fact, if memory serves, was a winner.


 We used it in a 300 km brevet, and set a course record for that
 (hilly) course on it. I rode Paris-Brest-Paris on a 1946 René Herse
 tandem with 38 mm tires, but that was only because 42s weren't
 available then...
 
 Photo of the Bilenky is here:
 http://www.bikequarterly.com/test_bikes.html
 
 And the Herse tandem is here:
 http://janheine.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/pbpcornervillagemed.jpg



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[RBW] Rodeo-danna!

2013-02-07 Thread William
OK, try to stop me from buying one o' these bandannas!

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/az3-rdo.htm

HA!

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Re: [RBW] Calling All Patrick Moores!

2013-02-07 Thread tarik saleh
He totally exists, but if he tells you he never flats, well:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/targetsalad/2338768467/

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 For the record, Patrick *does* exist. I think.

 Patrick (or at least, someone who *said* he was Patrick) hosted me for a
 very nice ride along the Bosque in ABQ when I was there a couple of years
 ago on a business trip.

 Very nice guy, whoever he is.

 --Eric N
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 Hey Patrick, I'm here in ABQ for a blink.  Whatcha doin after 5:00?  I'm at
 a downtown hotel.  Perhaps we could meet in the flesh and I could report
 back to the group and confirm that you do in fact exist!

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-07 Thread jinxed
OK...well the woodchippers are crossed off. I took a trip across town today 
to visit a LBS that carries a bunch of Salsa / Surly goodies and they had 
several bikes set up with the WC bars. I really liked the top position, and 
the hoods, but the drops were way outside my ideal. Too wide and too angled 
toward the ground. 

I might try to find something with a Midge set up and check those out. I 
like the idea that the drops are shallow, but basically level. The brake 
hoods should still offer a good flat position and effectively widen and 
pull back my hands vs the mustache. It would also add the comfy top 
position the m-bar lacks.

I'll never part with the mustache because I do like it tried and true. BUT 
I had a flat bar set up I liked before I tried the m-bar, so it's always 
good to try new things. So far, the mustache has won out against; Noodles, 
Soma ARC, Bullmoose, and Albatross configurations.

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[RBW] FS: 60cm Bombadil

2013-02-07 Thread Marty
I am offering my 60cm Bombadil for sale. Frame, fork  headset for now, (the 
diagatube version) but some other parts from the current build may follow. It 
is flawless in every way, no different than the day it arrived here in Chicago. 
Gorgeous silver paint. Nothing to do with the recent notice that this model has 
been taken out of the line of production Rivs. Asking $2,250 plus shipping, or 
you can pick it up. Pics of the recent build here - with eggplant-wrapped 
Noodles. I will consider a package deal if you want it complete as shown, but 
I'm planning to transfer the kit to another bike at the moment. Reply offline 
if you have questions. Thanks.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/sets/72157625382429018/

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Leslie
On Thursday, February 7, 2013 3:37:20 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote:

 As for clearance, I seem to remember that it couldn't handle a 2.25 
 tire. Perhaps I'm wrong. It just seems if you were gonna make a 
 mountain bike you'd want it to be able to handle a tire that size 
 with clearance for mud. 



Mike,
When the first Bombadil came out, true, the 650b tires available were up 
through about a 42 or so;  just after the Bombadil arrived, the Quasimoto 
also arrived, and was about as big as you could comfortably run on it... 
it's a 650b that's right at a 2.0.  Some were even shoeing Neomotos in 
there in the 2.1 variant, but it was very close and tight.

When the Bombadil was revised into the diagonal version, the clearance was 
greatly increased.   I've run 2.3 Neomotos with SKS fenders and still had 
lots of clearance.  The Bombadil's clearance is now massive.  

Here's an early pic, before I adjusted the fenders... I could still see 
daylight over the tops of the tires under the fenders... these are 
Pacenti's 2.3's: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/7150235995/in/set-72157623199721925/

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Re: [RBW] Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Tom H: The stoker bar set-up is a dirt drop stem with Nitto North Road bar, 
attached by a clamp-on quill receptor thing that QBP used to sell under, I 
think, the Problem Solvers brand. I actually have another North Road bar 
attached via threadless stem on the back for whomever rides on the 
Xtracycle. The North Road bar is preferable to the Alba in this case, 
because the people using those bars are 3, 5, and 7 years old, and they 
prefer narrower bars.

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 12:26:56 PM UTC-6, Tom Harrop wrote:

 That is stupendous! Could you not get some more chain rings on it, though?

 Is that threadless stem + dirt drop + albatross at the back?


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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Bombadil

2013-02-07 Thread Leslie
Wow!   Never expected you to let that one go   that's a sweet frame!   
I was drooling over yours while waiting on mine to arrive...   

Have to admit, I don't think I could ever let my Bomba go...  

Good luck!   I'd expect this to not last


-L




On Thursday, February 7, 2013 7:05:41 PM UTC-5, Marty wrote:

 I am offering my 60cm Bombadil for sale. Frame, fork  headset for now, 
 (the diagatube version) but some other parts from the current build may 
 follow. It is flawless in every way, no different than the day it arrived 
 here in Chicago. Gorgeous silver paint. Nothing to do with the recent 
 notice that this model has been taken out of the line of production Rivs. 
 Asking $2,250 plus shipping, or you can pick it up. Pics of the recent 
 build here - with eggplant-wrapped Noodles. I will consider a package deal 
 if you want it complete as shown, but I'm planning to transfer the kit to 
 another bike at the moment. Reply offline if you have questions. Thanks.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/sets/72157625382429018/


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Re: [RBW] Calling All Patrick Moores!

2013-02-07 Thread Eric Norris
Hey! That's my Morobecane!

–Eric N
Sent from my iPhone 5

On Feb 7, 2013, at 3:45 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:

 He totally exists, but if he tells you he never flats, well:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/targetsalad/2338768467/
 
 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 For the record, Patrick *does* exist. I think.
 
 Patrick (or at least, someone who *said* he was Patrick) hosted me for a
 very nice ride along the Bosque in ABQ when I was there a couple of years
 ago on a business trip.
 
 Very nice guy, whoever he is.
 
 --Eric N
 www.CampyOnly.com
 CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
 
 On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
 
 Hey Patrick, I'm here in ABQ for a blink.  Whatcha doin after 5:00?  I'm at
 a downtown hotel.  Perhaps we could meet in the flesh and I could report
 back to the group and confirm that you do in fact exist!
 
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Re: [RBW] Calling All Patrick Moores!

2013-02-07 Thread Bertin753
Liesl -- just saw this (5:41 pm), not at home; would have liked to get 
together. Are you free Friday? What are you doing in ABQ?

Patrick back into the collective imagination Moore

Patrick Moore
iPhone

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread jinxed
Yep. I had an early Bomba and the Quasi-Motos were max cap for the frame. I 
had no plans to run fenders so it didnt matter to me, but if I had whacked 
a rim out of true...well the rubbing would commence. Check this photo 
set.http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/sets/72157622638063409/with/4087204970/

I already had a Bleriot when I added the Bomba planning to use it more 
off-road. As it turned out I could never come to terms with the Bomba as 
MTB. For whatever reason I wrestled with it going up technical ascents. 
Tried a few different bar set ups with only minor improvement. That said it 
became just a beefed up version of the Bleriot. Ultimately I sold both and 
ended up on the All Rounder I have now.

My impression? 650B arguably is the perfect All Round size. I rode my 
Bleriot very comfortably on pavement and pretty rough singletrack with 
Fatty Rumpkins. Did I need the extra beefyness of the Bomba...not really. 
Would I have liked a bit more clearance to run an optional full fat tire? 
Yep. When I looked at at the two bikes, I always kept wanting to mix them. 
The simpler frame of the Bleriot, the canti bosses of the Bomba, but with a 
bit more room. The All Rounder I'm on is pretty darn close, and I often 
wonder how it would feel with 650b. But with it's gobs of clearance, I can 
stick a full on 2.3 in there and bounce down the trail so the fun is all.

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Mike
I'll say this much for the Bombadil, I like the name most out of all
the LOTR inspired names. It seems perfect for a mountain bike, one
designed not so much for ripping down trails at mach V or hitting
jumps, but for rambling around in the woods. The headbadge is great
too although I like the Hunqa's headbadge a little more.

That's great that the tire clearance on the Bombadil was increased.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread dailyrandonneur
If one is on a timetable, Co-Motion is turning tandems around relatively 
quickly.  With a number of custom modifications and couplers, ours got to 
us in about 6 weeks after design approval. 

We have friends who are getting a 650b custom tandem for use with Hetres 
from Co-Motion, also expected in weeks. 

We have other friends who have waited more than a year on their 650b 
Bilenky tandem with no progress yet. That's not incredibly long for a 
custom shop with high demand, but it's something to keep in mind. 

Ed 
Washington, DC


On Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:07:31 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote:

 Speaking of Bilenky, we tested one of their tandems. It was equipped with 
 42 mm Grand Bois Hetre tires. We used it in a 300 km brevet, and set a 
 course record for that (hilly) course on it. I rode Paris-Brest-Paris on a 
 1946 René Herse tandem with 38 mm tires, but that was only because 42s 
 weren't available then...

 Photo of the Bilenky is here: http://www.bikequarterly.com/test_bikes.html

 And the Herse tandem is here: 
 http://janheine.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/pbpcornervillagemed.jpg

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Leslie


On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:02:39 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote:

 Yep. I had an early Bomba and the Quasi-Motos were max cap for the frame. 
 I had no plans to run fenders so it didnt matter to me, but if I had 
 whacked a rim out of true...well the rubbing would commence. Check this 
 photo 
 set.http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/sets/72157622638063409/with/4087204970/



I spent a LOT of time looking at those photos, waiting on my frame, before 
I knew that the clearance had been upgraded.   

I don't do 'technical' stuff, most of my riding is fireroads, 
rails-to-trails, etc.;  but, not lightly...   the Bomba is great for, 
whatever you need it to do at least, w/in my range of expectations.
Sure, if I was going to try to fly through a rock-garden, I'd be looking 
for suspension, but, that's not my kind of riding

 

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[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Michael Hechmer
Our Bilenky was designed and set up for touring.  We run Marathon Racers, 
26x1.6 and really like them. I highly recommend Bilenky's work, and, if you 
are getting a tandem definitely go either 26 or 650b.   Our fully loaded 
tandem, with us on it, weighs well over 400 lbs and handles like a dream. 
 We couldn't be happier with it.  

Michael


On Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:07:31 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote:

 Speaking of Bilenky, we tested one of their tandems. It was equipped with 
 42 mm Grand Bois Hetre tires. We used it in a 300 km brevet, and set a 
 course record for that (hilly) course on it. I rode Paris-Brest-Paris on a 
 1946 René Herse tandem with 38 mm tires, but that was only because 42s 
 weren't available then...

 Photo of the Bilenky is here: http://www.bikequarterly.com/test_bikes.html

 And the Herse tandem is here: 
 http://janheine.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/pbpcornervillagemed.jpg

 Jan Heine
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Re: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread jinxed
Well...it's both actually. I think I mixed them up...the Neo-Moto's maxed 
out the frame. I had Quasi-Motos on order and was waiting on them when my 
buddy and I started wondering id the Neo's would fit. He had a set on his 
wheels, so we threw them in to see. I rode them for a couple weeks till the 
Quasi's came in. That picture set shows the bike with both models.

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:46:46 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 But those are neo motos in your pics, jinxed. 
 On Feb 7, 2013 8:02 PM, jinxed hbc...@yahoo.com javascript: wrote:

 Yep. I had an early Bomba and the Quasi-Motos were max cap for the frame. 
 I had no plans to run fenders so it didnt matter to me, but if I had 
 whacked a rim out of true...well the rubbing would commence. Check this 
 photo 
 set.http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/sets/72157622638063409/with/4087204970/

 I already had a Bleriot when I added the Bomba planning to use it more 
 off-road. As it turned out I could never come to terms with the Bomba as 
 MTB. For whatever reason I wrestled with it going up technical ascents. 
 Tried a few different bar set ups with only minor improvement. That said it 
 became just a beefed up version of the Bleriot. Ultimately I sold both and 
 ended up on the All Rounder I have now.

 My impression? 650B arguably is the perfect All Round size. I rode my 
 Bleriot very comfortably on pavement and pretty rough singletrack with 
 Fatty Rumpkins. Did I need the extra beefyness of the Bomba...not really. 
 Would I have liked a bit more clearance to run an optional full fat tire? 
 Yep. When I looked at at the two bikes, I always kept wanting to mix them. 
 The simpler frame of the Bleriot, the canti bosses of the Bomba, but with a 
 bit more room. The All Rounder I'm on is pretty darn close, and I often 
 wonder how it would feel with 650b. But with it's gobs of clearance, I can 
 stick a full on 2.3 in there and bounce down the trail so the fun is all.

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[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread ted
We recently bought a used Mercian that has marathons on it which I
think measure a touch over 40. Not much clearance, how many mm do
folks consider minimum clearance? The bike rides very nicely. Those
stout schwalbes are not supple fast tires but we aren't fast either
and the ride is quite comfortable. I asked the seller about the
smaller tires that seem so prevalent for road tandems. We concurred
that that was just crazy.

On Feb 6, 10:53 pm, Salween owen%livingrivers@gtempaccount.com
wrote:
 Don't know if Grant and Co. will ever produce a tandem, so in the meantime
 will be getting one elsewhere.

 Seems like most tandems out there follow the skinny tire theme, with the
 exception of R+E in Seattle and Bilenky in Philadelphia, and even their
 tire clearances don't seem to push as far north as nearly all Riv singles.
 So wondering if there are any tandem riders here and what tire widths they
 prefer. On my Sam I ride 33/35mm tires often on marginal roads. So
 wondering what that might translate to on a 700c tandem?

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread ted
I don't think of my Bombadil as a mnt. bike, more like a park bike.
For the way I ride it it works great. With 200 bullmoose bars on my 52
frame the reach is good, so for me the top tube is none too long. As
others have noted there are two different flavors of the Bombadil.
After the Hunkapilar came out the design changed to a diagatube and
the extra seat stays were added. The tire clearance was opened up
quite a bit too. One part of the clearance puzzle was a new crown
which I don't think had been developed when the Bombadil was first
developed. I believe the steep price increase traces to the added seat
stays that meet the diagatube at the seat tube. There is significant
extra work there. I was talking to one of the guys there a while back
and was told that Waterford refused to keep doing the stays and that
joint, so they had to send the frames to Mark N to geat em completed
before sending them to paint.

On Feb 7, 6:32 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Well...it's both actually. I think I mixed them up...the Neo-Moto's maxed
 out the frame. I had Quasi-Motos on order and was waiting on them when my
 buddy and I started wondering id the Neo's would fit. He had a set on his
 wheels, so we threw them in to see. I rode them for a couple weeks till the
 Quasi's came in. That picture set shows the bike with both models.







 On Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:46:46 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

  But those are neo motos in your pics, jinxed.
  On Feb 7, 2013 8:02 PM, jinxed hbc...@yahoo.com javascript: wrote:

  Yep. I had an early Bomba and the Quasi-Motos were max cap for the frame.
  I had no plans to run fenders so it didnt matter to me, but if I had
  whacked a rim out of true...well the rubbing would commence. Check this
  photo 
  set.http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/sets/72157622638063409/with...

  I already had a Bleriot when I added the Bomba planning to use it more
  off-road. As it turned out I could never come to terms with the Bomba as
  MTB. For whatever reason I wrestled with it going up technical ascents.
  Tried a few different bar set ups with only minor improvement. That said it
  became just a beefed up version of the Bleriot. Ultimately I sold both and
  ended up on the All Rounder I have now.

  My impression? 650B arguably is the perfect All Round size. I rode my
  Bleriot very comfortably on pavement and pretty rough singletrack with
  Fatty Rumpkins. Did I need the extra beefyness of the Bomba...not really.
  Would I have liked a bit more clearance to run an optional full fat tire?
  Yep. When I looked at at the two bikes, I always kept wanting to mix them.
  The simpler frame of the Bleriot, the canti bosses of the Bomba, but with a
  bit more room. The All Rounder I'm on is pretty darn close, and I often
  wonder how it would feel with 650b. But with it's gobs of clearance, I can
  stick a full on 2.3 in there and bounce down the trail so the fun is all.

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[RBW] JBK Haleiwa Metric Century 2013

2013-02-07 Thread Pondero
I posted my vote for the Quickbeam out of consideration of your riding buddy.  
Whatever you choose, you guys have a great ride!

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[RBW] Re: Geometry charts

2013-02-07 Thread Michael


 Glorious/Wilbury sizing chart sez:

 50cm - riders up to 5'51/2 

56cm - 5'101/2

60cm- riders 5'10 to 6'3 or so. 
 
PS- look for something in your email.

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Re: [RBW] JBK Haleiwa Metric Century 2013

2013-02-07 Thread Robert F. Harrison
So far it's 8 for the QB,  7 for the Hunq,  2 for the Friday.

The fellow I'm going with is about 15 years younger than I am, but I have a
lot more experience with distance, at least in the last few years.

I'll be happy on any of the bikes.

It's a couple of months off so once I see which way the vote is trending
I'll spend more time on that bike. But I really won't be training for it
as I ride daily anyway and often ride several miles out of my way just
because. ;-)

This is one of those rides that is a shame to speed through anyway... But
aren't they all?

Aloha!

Bob
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[RBW] Re: Geometry charts

2013-02-07 Thread Michael


 I tried to send you the reader, but wouldn't work.

 They don't give a geo chart in the reader - only sizing references and 
 tube diameters and butt dimension.

  

Big 'ol article about it. 

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[RBW] Re: Geometry charts

2013-02-07 Thread Michael


 let me clarify:

 50cm - riders up to about 5' 51/2 

 56cm - riders up to 5'10 1/2

 60cm- riders 5'10 to 6'3 or so. 


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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Kelly
I kinda agree..Mather last thing I think of is mountain bike when on my 
Bombadil.  It's Tour Bike nervona.

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Re: [RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)

2013-02-07 Thread René Sterental
I use them on my bikes. I assume you have the daruma already in place and
the original flat metal washer + rubber washer, correct?

The wedge replaces the metal washer and should fit inside the fork steerer
(narrow diameter section) and the thinner edge on the front to
help,accomodate the fender's curvature, although in my experience on the
Riv bikes you still need to pull the front upwards a bit.

If your bike has canti brakes it'll fit perfectly. If your bike has center
pull brakes, you'll need to file the front section of the narrower circle
as the long nut that tightens the brake pushes it forward and prevents it
from fitting inside the steerer. Depending on the clearances, you'll use
the black rubber washer or others to close the gap.

Let me know if still have questions.

René

On Thursday, February 7, 2013, Minh wrote:

 Ok, so in the middle of winter tweaking, has anyone installed a fender
 wedge,
 http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-520/Fender-Wedge-for-underside/Detailon
  a Hillborne?  I can't figure out how to position it to get it to fit,
 i'd like to replace the rubber washer and get the fender a little tighter
 in that one spot.

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[RBW] Re: Calling All Patrick Moores!

2013-02-07 Thread Liesl
Hey Patrick, I have a little time tomorrow afternoon and then I'm outa 
here.  Here on business.  Email me off line and maybe we can come up with a 
plan in the morning.  liesl

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[RBW] Re: FS: 650b singlespeed/fixed Synergy wheelset

2013-02-07 Thread jeffrey kane
Hey Brad, which Surly hubs are they? By any chance the Ultra New Hubs: 
withe the hollow axel? Any pics?

On Monday, February 4, 2013 11:50:21 AM UTC-5, Brad Mitchell wrote:

 Bump. Really need to sell these, as they are the last piece of gear I need 
 to sell to buy a new frame (!). So I'm knocking these down to $225 which 
 includes shipping to the lower 48. Or make me an offer I can't refuse...

 Brad



 On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:59:25 PM UTC-6, Brad Mitchell wrote:

 After moving some things around this week I've ended up with an extra set 
 of 650b single speed wheels I need to sell. Velocity Synergy 32h rims, 
 Surly fixed/free hubs. Very low miles, in great condition, true, etc. Front 
 hub measures 100mm, rear is 130mm. 

 Asking $250 which includes shipping to the lower 48.



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[RBW] Re: Rodeo-danna!

2013-02-07 Thread Manuel Acosta
Pretty good. Just a matter of time before they get some Rivendell specific 
bananas. I smell limited Rivendell printed bananas from various of drawing 
sources from the crew members. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rodeo-danna!

2013-02-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I always carry a big Western bandananananana in my jersey or rear pant's
pocket: summer for sweat, winter for that awkward nose appearance (my nose
comes from my Filipino half and, as my perfectly and entirely WASP father
used to say, you don't have the nose to hide anything).

I get mine for $1/each at Walgreen's or at Goodwill. But I'd pay a slight
premium for a Rivendell model.

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 Pretty good. Just a matter of time before they get some Rivendell specific
 bananas. I smell limited Rivendell printed bananas from various of drawing
 sources from the crew members.

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Re: [RBW] Calling All Patrick Moores!

2013-02-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That's not a flat! I was only checking bearing tension. Or rim trueness. Or
something.

March, 2008, right? We should have another go sometime.

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:45 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:

 He totally exists, but if he tells you he never flats, well:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/targetsalad/2338768467/

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  For the record, Patrick *does* exist. I think.
 
  Patrick (or at least, someone who *said* he was Patrick) hosted me for a
  very nice ride along the Bosque in ABQ when I was there a couple of years
  ago on a business trip.
 
  Very nice guy, whoever he is.
 
  --Eric N
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  On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
 
  Hey Patrick, I'm here in ABQ for a blink.  Whatcha doin after 5:00?  I'm
 at
  a downtown hotel.  Perhaps we could meet in the flesh and I could report
  back to the group and confirm that you do in fact exist!
 
  liesl
 
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Re: [RBW] Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread Seth Vidal
Having looked for a long time at R+E tandems I have to ask... Why wouldn't
you go with them? The price point they seem to be able to hit for a
semi-custom tandem frame is pretty fantastic. Why not get one and enjoy it?

We have 32mm panaracer's on our burley paso doble. That's a tight fit with
fenders but it is doable. I'd love to move to an R+E with either 650b
wheels or able to comfortably fit a larger 700c.

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 Don't know if Grant and Co. will ever produce a tandem, so in the meantime
 will be getting one elsewhere.

 Seems like most tandems out there follow the skinny tire theme, with the
 exception of R+E in Seattle and Bilenky in Philadelphia, and even their
 tire clearances don't seem to push as far north as nearly all Riv singles.
 So wondering if there are any tandem riders here and what tire widths they
 prefer. On my Sam I ride 33/35mm tires often on marginal roads. So
 wondering what that might translate to on a 700c tandem?

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[RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Jim M.

On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:12:13 PM UTC-8, Kelly wrote:

 It's Tour Bike nervona.


Yes, I agree. But I also like the flexibility of the design that allows it 
to be a mtb when I want. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Nervona? Sounds like a Target house brand.

Patrick aiming for Nirvana Moore

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 On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:12:13 PM UTC-8, Kelly wrote:

 It's Tour Bike nervona.


 Yes, I agree. But I also like the flexibility of the design that allows it
 to be a mtb when I want.

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Re: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread Peter Morgano
Isnt this another case of where a bike comes out and says it can take x
size tires and we all groan and say we want x+1 size tires to fit it? I
know I spent countless hours trying to get the Hetres just right on the
Homer, when I could have just gone with 38s and been happy, such is life,
always wanting more.

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 Nervona? Sounds like a Target house brand.

 Patrick aiming for Nirvana Moore


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 On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:12:13 PM UTC-8, Kelly wrote:

 It's Tour Bike nervona.


 Yes, I agree. But I also like the flexibility of the design that allows
 it to be a mtb when I want.

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[RBW] FS: 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB

2013-02-07 Thread Michael Williams
Hey Group,   Up for sale is a used 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB.   Its Toyo built, if 
that means anything.  Repainted Butterscotch.  Its 'creamier' in life than 
in the photos.   definitely used, never abused.   It has some paint chips 
here an there that i covered with nail polish.   Some chainsuck chips and a 
little wear on the inside left chainstay from tire rub I guess.   I 
sometimes squeezed 42s,  so that is my only guess. There is also some 
shellac residue on the headtube and a little on the DT and TT.   Headset is 
FSA   almost brand new,  oldish BB but still is smooth.Asking $1100+ 
shipping,  which is now way less than half of the newly priced AHH frames 
which would be roughly $2500 including tax :)   Would like to sell in the 
Bay Area if possible.-Mike

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[RBW] Additional spikes for Grip Kings

2013-02-07 Thread Michael Williams
Hey Group,  just wondering if anyone has any experience with the spikes 
that Rivendell sells that you can put into the Grip Kings.   I drilled out 
a hole with a 7/64 bit which is right between the recommended 3/32 and 1/8 
and tried screwing one in but it just didnt want to go.   Then I drilled 
that same hole with a 1/8 bit and it still wouldnt budge.I thought I 
was going to break/bend my little 2mm Hex key.   Am I doing something 
wrong?   thanks in advance.   -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: No Bombadil????

2013-02-07 Thread James Warren

And to put it in perspective, I went riding with my friend who decided that 
700x25's would be a cool new thing to try on his Colnago (Taiwan-made I 
believe). The 700x25's didn't fit!


On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:29 PM, Peter Morgano wrote:

 Isnt this another case of where a bike comes out and says it can take x size 
 tires and we all groan and say we want x+1 size tires to fit it? I know I 
 spent countless hours trying to get the Hetres just right on the Homer, when 
 I could have just gone with 38s and been happy, such is life, always wanting 
 more. 
 
 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:24 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nervona? Sounds like a Target house brand.
 
 Patrick aiming for Nirvana Moore
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:12:13 PM UTC-8, Kelly wrote:
 It's Tour Bike nervona.
 
 Yes, I agree. But I also like the flexibility of the design that allows it to 
 be a mtb when I want. 
 
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[RBW] WTB bar end shifters

2013-02-07 Thread Jared Volpe
Anyone have a set of bar end shifters that they want to get rid of?

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[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-07 Thread Jared Volpe
Thanks for your input everyone!  This was totally helpful.  Got the bike 
back on the road today and it is awesome.  Went with the chainring guard, a 
40t and a 24t all from Riv.

On Monday, January 21, 2013 7:15:38 PM UTC-8, Jared Volpe wrote:

 So I want to do a 40/24 double mod with a Sugino double FD.  

 Any suggestions out there? Stainless? Aluminium? More than 24t on the 
 granny? Lessons learned? Chainrings you are happy with?  I've been talking 
 offline with Keven (original inspiration?), lister Jeremy (who is going to 
 help me out once i dial in the parts/setup) and lister Zach who made the 
 mod himself... but I wanted to open it up to the group.  

 Thanks!

 Jared


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