Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Anne Paulson
If you go on a long enough bike tour, you end up in a lot of places where there aren't any trees. The first time I rode across the US, I didn't have a kickstand on my bike, and my riding partner had one. Those hundreds of miles across the prairies, where Hans could just leave his bike on the kickst

Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread rob markwardt
Glad you are having a good time. Later dude. On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:23:56 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: > > It's a lot of fun to mount panniers on the tree side of a tree, dude. > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM, rob markwardt > > > wrote: > >> I'm with you all the way exce

[RBW] Re: Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-20 Thread Coconutbill
> > keep going... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-

[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Lynne Fitz
a stand. Best present I ever bought myself a bike tools-only tool box. I have a rolling one. Best present my husband ever bought me magnetic dish - many of those little parts you took off stay put. little ratchet wrench with Allen head bits. Oh yeah. and unify all the bolts on your bike, as mu

Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Christopher Chen
It's a lot of fun to mount panniers on the tree side of a tree, dude. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM, rob markwardt wrote: > I'm with you all the way except for ponchos, twine, and kickstands. I > can't remember once in my whole life where I wished I'd had a kickstand. > Maybe if I lived wher

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread rob markwardt
I'm with you all the way except for ponchos, twine, and kickstands. I can't remember once in my whole life where I wished I'd had a kickstand. Maybe if I lived where there weren't any trees? Rob Markwardt in the forest of WA On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:05:09 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: > > T

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread George Millwood
Anytime you pedal from Warragul to Wollongong, there'll be a line of beers on the counter at the Five islands because you're gonna need 'em. Cheers On Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:17:10 UTC+11, sameness wrote: > I'm gonna mention the Kool Aid, but to collect you'll have to come to the >> F

[RBW] Re: December Angeles Forest S240

2013-11-20 Thread Mike Schiller
The best I can figure is that from the summit of Gleason to the Sun Valley Metrolink station is 37 miles. It may make sense to go further down the SC Divide road before camping. Looks like I'll have to drive up early to get the 1st train. My incoming Orange County train misses the AV train by

[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread rob markwardt
I've rebuilt loads of bike but it takes me foreverI'd rather ride than wrench. My philosphy todayDo the easy stuff. Drop it off at the shop for the rest. On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:04:07 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a spec

Re: [RBW] Re: Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-20 Thread Christopher Chen
Okay, shellac nerds. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/10973756713/ On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Zack wrote: > Most excellent. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] December Angeles Forest S240

2013-11-20 Thread hsmitham
Hi SoCal Riv Riders, Throwing out nother overnighter this time in the Angeles Forest above Tujunga, Ca. Let's get one last one in before we close out 13' Date: December 13 & 14th. Depart Time TBD Leave from Acton Metrolink Station climb 1700' over 11 miles to Mill Creek Summit then continue cl

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-20 Thread Hugh Smitham
I'm off from 27th to the 30th but Thanksgiving is on the 28th and I'm planning on going to my Brothers for that day. I wish I could join you as it's really close and I need to get back out for an overnight and that loop is really nice. I'm getting ready to post the mid December S240 up Mount Gleas

[RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-20 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Hugh, Is work getting in the way? On Wednesday, November 20, 2013, hsmitham wrote: > Curtis, > > Mike is on the money Anacapa is an awesome brewery highly recommend, right > in DT Ventura. Sounds like a great time wish I could join in. > > ~Hugh > > On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:31:31 PM UT

[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread dougP
Precious cargo like that should only be entrusted to a Rivendell. :-). dougP On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:02:16 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: > > I carry my boys on the back of my Sam all the time > 7 year old sitting on the rack (with a piece of a foam mat for padding) > 5 or 2 year old in a k

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-20 Thread hsmitham
Curtis, Mike is on the money Anacapa is an awesome brewery highly recommend, right in DT Ventura. Sounds like a great time wish I could join in. ~Hugh On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:31:31 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote: > > I've done it many times. We often went up into the hills of Monteci

[RBW] Re: Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

2013-11-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
I spent less for my Scottish ventile Hilltrek Jacket and love it, plus I get a hood. From the description, I would expect this jacket to be lighter than mine, which is admittedly heavy and bulky by today's standards. I would love to see on in person. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, Novembe

[RBW] Re: Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

2013-11-20 Thread sameness
Great design, awesome details, and probably my favorite color combination to boot. Alas, I don't think I've shelled out $430.00 for my entire wardrobe. Somebody please buy a Medium and hate it, preferably to the tune of a >50% loss? Thanks in advance. Jeff "Would Spend It If I Had It" Hagedor

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread jimD
Best tip ever! On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > 4. Have a favorite drink handy and pleasant music on the hi-fi. The last > drowns out the cursing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from t

Re: [RBW] Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

2013-11-20 Thread cyclotourist
Wow, that is incredible. On 11/20/13, Bill Lindsay wrote: > I think the new English Jacket looks pretty swank. Who is getting one from > > the pre-sale? > > I'm definitely going to try one on at the Grand Opening Party in December. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread cyclotourist
Yes! How many times have I had to re-purchase a part that I sold off, thinking I wouldn't possibly need it in the future... On 11/20/13, Bill Lindsay wrote: > One big picture item: INVENTORY. Over the last 4 or 5 years, I've gotten > into the habit of stocking up on almost everything. I keep

[RBW] Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

2013-11-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think the new English Jacket looks pretty swank. Who is getting one from the pre-sale? I'm definitely going to try one on at the Grand Opening Party in December. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from th

[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread Edwin W
I carry my boys on the back of my Sam all the time 7 year old sitting on the rack (with a piece of a foam mat for padding) 5 or 2 year old in a kettler bike seat attached to the seat tube. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" grou

Re: [RBW] Gravels of Gaar...

2013-11-20 Thread cyclotourist
That looks like close to the perfect ride! On 11/20/13, meade anderson wrote: > About a month ago, Paul and I cranked out a wonderful ride thru some of the > most scenic areas on the east side of the Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia. > I haven't had time to post the links or the story.I'll let th

[RBW] Gravels of Gaar...

2013-11-20 Thread meade anderson
About a month ago, Paul and I cranked out a wonderful ride thru some of the most scenic areas on the east side of the Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia. I haven't had time to post the links or the story.I'll let the pictures do the talking and there is some overlap between our shots (surprise, surpr

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Cecily Walker
I arrived at Rivendell after owning a Trek Navigator comfort bike, a Batavus Fryslan honest-to-goodness Dutch bike, and a Norco City Glide bike, so many of the Rivendell velosophies were familiar to me. The ones that worked: 1. *Fat tires* - I've always ridden on fat tires, in a mostly upright

[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wow, Andy! Glad you made it back and healed up well. What road allowed you to go 42 miles in such seclusion? I presume if a car had passed/stopped you would have accepted help? With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:07:22 PM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote: > > My own broken body after an

Re: [RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread Tim Tetrault
Andy- powerful story. Thanks for sharing, glad you're okay. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:07 PM, ascpgh wrote: > My own broken body after an unfortunate wreck on a road, a very long way > from a safe place, in the Rocky Mountains. > > Deep flesh wounds and a blown out shoulder from hitting (and sti

[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread ascpgh
My own broken body after an unfortunate wreck on a road, a very long way from a safe place, in the Rocky Mountains. Deep flesh wounds and a blown out shoulder from hitting (and sticking to) the chip top at velocity. 42 miles to the next town. I emailed Grant about how impressed I and those wit

Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Bill Gibson
I feel nekkid without my hardhat. Not that Rivendell Bicycle Works opposes hardhats. Just that they might be optional, but I don't want to start anything, honest. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Bill Gibson wrote: > I wear a lot of wool, when I can. But much of the year, in Phoenix, cotton > i

Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?

2013-11-20 Thread Hugh Smitham
Yep a pre-ride gospel might work but I know my audience and it worked better post ride. I just know what kind of ride I like these days and if I ride with them I sort of know it'll be a rush push, so if I remain true to what I like and when I occasionally ride with them it'll be in a relaxed manne

Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Bill Gibson
I wear a lot of wool, when I can. But much of the year, in Phoenix, cotton is a performance fabric for me. Loose, light cotton. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Eric Platt wrote: > Like some others, was gravitating back towards this style when I found > Rivendell. Before my time off the bike,

Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Eric Platt
Like some others, was gravitating back towards this style when I found Rivendell. Before my time off the bike, my riding was done on a mid 1980's mountain bike with fenders, flat pedals, upright bars, Brooks saddle and fat(ish) tires. What I've picked up - 1 - wool. Was usually a cotton and/or s

Re: [RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread cyclotourist
And they let you leave On 11/20/13, EastBayGuy wrote: > Stopped by RBWHQ last Saturday and was asked what was in my Medium > Saddlebag. My reply was... > > 12 pack of 21st amendment Beer > 3 pound Tritip > 4 ears of Corn > red onion > pound of cheese > baguette > > Amazing what you can fit in

Re: [RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread Christopher Chen
And you can use irish straps to hold a 2' disco ball on top of the D-rings! cc On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:01 PM, EastBayGuy wrote: > Stopped by RBWHQ last Saturday and was asked what was in my Medium > Saddlebag. My reply was... > > 12 pack of 21st amendment Beer > 3 pound Tritip > 4 ears of Co

[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread EastBayGuy
Stopped by RBWHQ last Saturday and was asked what was in my Medium Saddlebag. My reply was... 12 pack of 21st amendment Beer 3 pound Tritip 4 ears of Corn red onion pound of cheese baguette Amazing what you can fit in the Medium Saddlebag Dustin G WC Ca -- You received this message because y

Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Dan Abelson
Wide tires, wool, and platform pedals are the biggest for me. On the not working so well side albatross bars, and bars well above saddle height. On Nov 20, 2013 4:28 PM, "Chris Lampe 2" wrote: > I think I was attracted to Rivendell because they advocated much of what I > was already doing. The b

[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread joe kelly
last winter i carried my car battery to and from the auto parts store a coupla miles away on my quickbeam with a mini font and a wald basket. it was so heavy iwas worried it was gonna break. it held though! joe On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:39:26 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: > > Photo sent to me by

[RBW] Re: Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-20 Thread Hoffsta
I have both Pari Motos and Hetres and have ridden a good amount of miles on each. As far as speed goes, I can't feel too much difference between the to two- both are very fast. The difference between either of these tires to a stepped down like Col de la Vie is much more noticeable than the diff

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Chris Lampe 2
I think I was attracted to Rivendell because they advocated much of what I was already doing. The big differences that work for me: 1) Grant got me back on steel. I started on steel in 1995 (plus 38mm tires and high handlebars) and "upgraded" to aluminum in 2007. Grant got me to comparing

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Daniel D.
This is where I miss clipless pedals the most. Now I fumble more often to get the pedal in a good starting position, with clipless it was pretty automatic since my foot was stuck to it :p. On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:05:09 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: > > > *9. Platform pedals/ditching the clic

[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Philip Williamson
Boom. I'm stealing this. Great idea. My uncle the mechanic always had one of those, along with a mirror-on-a-stick. Thanks! On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:51:32 PM UTC-8, velomann wrote: > > One tool I use a lot, and I'd be lost without, is one of those retractable > magnet wands. Looks li

Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Philip Williamson
"No school like the old school." Mill Valley Cyclery used to do this to all their mountain bike builds in the mid-'80s. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:21:23 PM UTC-8, Perry wrote: > > One more. If you're not planning on/sure about fenders, slip a piece of > old in

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Philip Williamson
Yep. Also learned the hard way. If everything isn't seated hard all the way up the line, you'll do it all again. On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:17:24 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote: > > Oh, and a trick for getting the ferules to seat all the way before making > final derailleur adjustments

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Philip Williamson
Amen to 5 and 7. 5. I attach the (drop bar) brake levers snug-but-loose, and ride the naked bars around the neighborhood, and kind of wriggle them up, down, toe-in, etc, until they're good. Then I lock them down and ride farther, to make sure. Then I tape. 7. I have indeed adjusted fiddly thin

[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Iron Rider
I send this comment: On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:52:23 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: > Anti-sieze compound for stuff like stems, seat posts, pedals, cranks, > etc. Anything subject to corrosion, especially aluminum / steel > interfaces. Permatex anti-sieze hangs around long after grease, eve

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Philip Williamson
I've heard it called "Athletic Tape," at least at my old Kung Fu studio. They sold it for wrapping stick-fighting sticks. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:43:44 AM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote: > > We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and > ever

[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread dougP
That reminds me that I took an old computer printer (a really heavy, clunky monster) to the electronic waste recycling on the back of my Atlantis. Now that was wobbly. dougP On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:21:52 PM UTC-8, Rick wrote: > > Some recycling; heavy stuff in the panniers. >> > >

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread dougP
Bill: Now that we know, you may have some inquires, especially about the odd bits this group seems to need. "What's better than having a hefty inventory of parts? A friend with a hefty inventory of parts." dougP On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:16:11 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > One

Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread sameness
> > Leave some extra length in cable runs and don't finish off handlebars. > Ride it for a while like that and once satisfied with handlebar/stem, come > back for final trim tape, etc. > > • Perry > I need a sign taped to the top tube reading LEAVE HOUSING LONG every time I'm in an eager rus

[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread dougP
Anti-sieze compound for stuff like stems, seat posts, pedals, cranks, etc. Anything subject to corrosion, especially aluminum / steel interfaces. Permatex anti-sieze hangs around long after grease, even Phil's, is gone. Been using it since the motorcycle days. Good stuff. dougP On Wednesda

[RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread velomann
One tool I use a lot, and I'd be lost without, is one of those retractable magnet wands. Looks like a shiny pen - or car antennae - folded up. Super useful in sucking the bearings out of a wheel or BB when rebuilding. Also useful for sweeping the floor for same bearings when you didn't get them

[RBW] Re: Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

2013-11-20 Thread Rick
I rode pari motos and had multiple flat issues on a longish trip in the mountains. In fairness, it's possible that I had some residual unlocatable metal filing in there that kept re-inserting itself at inopportune times. Used my last patch at the top of a steep long climb having located the le

[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread Tim Tetrault
A belt sander, w/bungees on rack. Not hard, just strange. On Sam H. On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 5:39:26 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: > > Photo sent to me by a fellow Atlantis owner & obviously bird lover. This > is 40 lbs of birdseed and did not upset the bike's handling. While I > didn't weigh th

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-20 Thread Mike Schiller
I've done it many times. We often went up into the hills of Montecito and came out in downtown Santa Barbara. A number of times from Santa Paula too. It was a nice escape from the heat of Santa Clarita in the summer. There is also a nice brewpub called Anacapa in downtown Ventura. mike On

Re: [RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread Peter Morgano
Anyone know what panniers will work with the Burly Moose rack? I am looking to do more grocery shopping by bike soon. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Rick wrote: > Some recycling; heavy stuff in the panniers. >> > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread C.J. Filip
YAY - Brooks, friction shifting, 8-speed, 650b (though with Hetres), 36-spoke wheels, Noodles, Nitto, racks, saddlebags, wide tires, fenders, lights, no electronic gadgets NAY - high bars, bomb-proof tires, kickstands, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Perry
One more. If you're not planning on/sure about fenders, slip a piece of old inner tube over fork steerer and down to crown before assembly. Slip it over the bottom headset cup after assembly/adjustment. It will prevent water from shooting into bottom of headset like a power wash during a downpou

Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Perry
Leave some extra length in cable runs and don't finish off handlebars. Ride it for a while like that and once satisfied with handlebar/stem, come back for final trim tape, etc. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Bill Gibson
Use needlenose pliers when substituting a hammer, nail, and nut for a chain tool. No bike stand? Hang the bike from a tree or a skyhook with a loop of cord. Portable and versatile, too, when far from shop and home. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Only if the wine is gr

[RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?

2013-11-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
*What I took away from this experience is that while on the ride I barely had time to take a picture, I kept looking at all the amazing dirt roads we were passing and that's where I wanted to ride. * *... no smiles just grimaces...* SO TRUE!!! ... Maybe a little pre-ride gospel: *Take time to

Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Only if the wine is grand cru. Patrick Moore, busily drinking vin *tres* ordinaire in ABQ, NM. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Ryan wrote: > MeI like those Nitto barend plugs > On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:45:50 PM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote: >> >> Wine corks as barend plugs. Inexpensiv

[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Ryan
MeI like those Nitto barend plugs On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:45:50 PM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote: > > Wine corks as barend plugs. Inexpensive, superlight and look nice. > > Jan Heine > Editor > Bicycle Quarterly > http://www.bikequarterly.com > > Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress

[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Jan Heine
Wine corks as barend plugs. Inexpensive, superlight and look nice. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubsc

[RBW] Re: Cable Management (or) More Twine

2013-11-20 Thread Zack
Most excellent. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-o

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/20/2013 11:43 AM, Kieran J wrote: We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and every hardware and skate shop up here, I suppose that's not surprising.. KJ On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:15:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony De

[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread George Schick
In keeping with the Dremel tool, use a rotary cutting disc to whack off the extra end of an SKS fender stay once fitting and positioning has been completed, placing a putty knife blade between the stay and the plastic fender to protect it from being gouged. Then, switch over to a cylindrical

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Anton Tutter
Oh, and a trick for getting the ferules to seat all the way before making final derailleur adjustments is to yank an exposed section of cable hard after all routing and bolting up has been done. Anton On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:13:37 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: > > I use a dremel cu

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Bill Lindsay
One big picture item: INVENTORY. Over the last 4 or 5 years, I've gotten into the habit of stocking up on almost everything. I keep an eye out for deals, closeouts, etc. Spend $40 here, $60 there, maybe $100 every once in a while. Then, when a frameset comes around, a complete bike material

Re: [RBW] what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread dougP
"What sort of rack is that bag draped over? A stiff rack is of course the key for stable loading." Tubus Cosmo. dougP On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:15:52 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I've passed 40 lb (42?) load+panniers on the Ram with Fly -- groceries in > the new Ortlieb Rollers.

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Anton Tutter
I use a dremel cutting wheel, but then finish the ends flat and open the ends with a gold old fashioned awl. Anton On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:26:43 AM UTC-5, David G wrote: > > When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel > and open up the ends with a home-ma

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Kieran J
Pretty much agree with the general thoughts expressed here so far, although the only Rivendell I have is a Rambouillet with Jack Browns and a couple small bags front and rear, so more towards the road end than some of the 4X4-type Rivs. Man, I enjoy that bike. In addition to the classic aesthe

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Joe Bunik
1) Tape the bars with brakes locked hard-closed, so that underlying cable routing doesn't "squirm about" once you're on the road. 2) Run shift cables (from cockpit controls) X-style below the DT, whenever possible. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/20/13, Kieran J wrote: > We Canucks call this

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-20 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Mike, the Ojai route sounds great. Seems as if one could do a loop with your route. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: > Curtis, you could ride up to Ojai and over Casitas Pass on the 1st day. > About 34 miles and includes a nice bike trail in route to Ojai. You can go > f

Re: [RBW] How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-20 Thread John L
For argument's sake, couldn't you also put 29x3 tires in a Pugsley? Then you'd also have the option for 26x4 (or larger if you use the MWOD crank and a Moonlander fork, a la the black ops pug). On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:53:30 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: > > Good question. I haven't be

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike overnight near Ventura California

2013-11-20 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Mike, that sounds like a great ride. I will look into it further. Thanks On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: > Curtis, you could ride up to Ojai and over Casitas Pass on the 1st day. > About 34 miles and includes a nice bike trail in route to Ojai. You can go > further up

Re: [RBW] How are 33 mm tires for fire roads?

2013-11-20 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
If you're not using racks, then the Krampus will be great. If you think racks might be part of the equation, the ECR is SWEET. I have one on order. On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:53:30 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: > > Good question. I haven't been able to test ride an ECR. People who > have

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Kieran J
We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and every hardware and skate shop up here, I suppose that's not surprising.. KJ On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:15:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > *Friction tape* is

Re: [RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Joe Bunik
On 11/20/13, Mike wrote: > Bigger tires, platform pedals, racks, saddle bags, higher bars, bike > camping and the overall idea of a country bike. > > --mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this gro

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Mike
Bigger tires, platform pedals, racks, saddle bags, higher bars, bike camping and the overall idea of a country bike. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Ryan
Great question Yes Consistent adherence to versatility,durability and quality. Beautifully crafted,rugged frames that ride wonderfully and have a classic appeal Wider tires are really good Fenders. They make riding in rain so much better. Everyone should have at least 1 fendered bike Moustac

Re: [RBW] FS: Riv related stuff. Freewheels 6,7 speed Suntour, Merino socs,Phil Wood, Thomson, Schwalbe, Specialized shoes etc.

2013-11-20 Thread jimmy johnsen
OK for the fender nuts. Paypal please On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:44 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I'll take the Sheldon fender nuts. On Nov 20, 2013 9:04 AM, "hobie" wrote: All prices include shipping. Have a Happy Thanksgiving > >2- vintage freewheels 1-Shimano SIS 6 speed MF-Z012 14,1

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Moore
I'll have to remember that. Me, I use a Park cutter and grind smooth with a bench grinder, but if the "wire inside" method prevents sharp edges, that would be a lot quicker. One more little tip: per Rivendell's suggestion: a small artist's paintbrush poked through a small hole in a tub of cheap gr

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Lee Chae
Hey David, better yet, cut the housing with a piece of old wire in it. Best, Lee > On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:26 AM, David Yu Greenblatt > wrote: > > When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and > open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke (http://tinyurl.com/lh5

Re: [RBW] FS: Riv related stuff. Freewheels 6,7 speed Suntour, Merino socs,Phil Wood, Thomson, Schwalbe, Specialized shoes etc.

2013-11-20 Thread Jim Bronson
I'll take the Sheldon fender nuts. On Nov 20, 2013 9:04 AM, "hobie" wrote: > All prices include shipping. Have a Happy Thanksgiving > > 2- vintage freewheels 1-Shimano SIS 6 speed MF-Z012 14,16,18,21,24,28 1- > Suntour 7 speed 13,15,17,20,23,26,30 Both in good condition. $30.00 shipped > for bot

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Peter Morgano
Have a tackle box marked BIKE TOOLS so prying hands know to go somewhere else for around the house tools. On Nov 20, 2013 10:26 AM, "David Yu Greenblatt" < david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com> wrote: > When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel > and open up the ends with a

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke (*http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy*). - David G in San Diego On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > Whether it's an application o

Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread islaysteve
Great tips, guys! Steve, thanks for the memories of friction tape. Remember seeing the blue sparks when you peel it from the roll in the dark? Patrick, wholeheartedly agree with all of you points, especially the stand! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

Re: [RBW] FS: Riv related stuff. Freewheels 6,7 speed Suntour, Merino socs,Phil Wood, Thomson, Schwalbe, Specialized shoes etc.

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Moore
I'll take the socks! On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:04 AM, hobie wrote: > All prices include shipping. Have a Happy Thanksgiving > > 2- vintage freewheels 1-Shimano SIS 6 speed MF-Z012 14,16,18,21,24,28 1- > Suntour 7 speed 13,15,17,20,23,26,30 Both in good condition. $30.00 shipped > for both > >

[RBW] Re: Shifting

2013-11-20 Thread islaysteve
Thanks Dave. That's what I'm thinking too, about the two levers moving in the same direction. I hope to give this a try before Spring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Labor $60/hr. If you watch: $80/hr. If you give advice: $120/hr. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > My secret? Let Rivendell elves use their secrets and stay out their way! > Grin. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > > On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:04:07 AM UTC-7, Tony DeF

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Moore
1. Think it through, first. Test it first, before committing, if you can. If there are instructions, read the instructions. This applies in great heaping spades to cable housing. (And how do I know that???) 2. Decent tools. I have built complete bikes and hacked drivetrains with the crudest of too

[RBW] FS: Riv related stuff. Freewheels 6,7 speed Suntour, Merino socs,Phil Wood, Thomson, Schwalbe, Specialized shoes etc.

2013-11-20 Thread hobie
All prices include shipping. Have a Happy Thanksgiving 2- vintage freewheels 1-Shimano SIS 6 speed MF-Z012 14,16,18,21,24,28 1- Suntour 7 speed 13,15,17,20,23,26,30 Both in good condition. $30.00 shipped for both 4- Schwalbe tubes 3- #18 extralight, 1- #17 $17.00 1- Thomson Elite 27.2setba

Re: [RBW] Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Moore
What about that signature Rivendell handling? I'd also add the fit and feel of 4 of the 5 I've owned. I took the '03 Curt (559X1.35"/32 mm actual) Kojaks briefly off road on Monday and I was surprised how nimble it felt negotiating the rocks and how good it felt on firm dirt (these surfaces turn t

[RBW] Re: FS: Wool Jerseys / Wool Trainer

2013-11-20 Thread Adam DeFayette
No one has contacted me, so prices are dropping. Let's go with $140 for the trainer, and $75 and $65 for the jersies respectively. Take all three for $275, free shipping. contact me off-list at adam.defaye...@gmail.com or adam...@hotmail.com Thanks! On Monday, November 18, 2013 11:04:00

[RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

2013-11-20 Thread Clayton
> > > About 110 lbs or more on moving day on my Atlantis. My homemade Panniers > had about 50 lbs., basket had 15 lbs. or so and the Bob carried the rest. I > regularly load my panniers with

Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?

2013-11-20 Thread Mike
Thank you Patrick. This list is a great little community. --mike On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:53:05 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Mike, > > If I may, I'll keep your mom in my prayers. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
My secret? Let Rivendell elves use their secrets and stay out their way! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:04:07 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky > cable routing... What is your own favorit

Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you

[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

2013-11-20 Thread Rod Holland
I'll join the amen chorus for platform pedals (no more low-speed falls at the end of a long ride!), wider tires (given Massachusetts roads, every ride is mixed-terrain), and fenders (except when I remove them to fit even wider tires). rod On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:05:09 AM UTC-5, Mich

[RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy insta

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