[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Um ... pass the kool-aid, please. L On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:02:29 AM UTC-4, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Travel to SFO / RBW: Food Tips?
Ritual Coffee http://www.ritualroasters.com/ Tacolicious http://tinyurl.com/kwox7gf Both are on Valencia Street, San Francisco. Best, Larry On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:35:39 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote: Taking the boys to San Francisco (staying in Union Square) for 5 days. Will BART to RBW / RBBH most certainly, but am looking for local coffee and food recommendations in SFO and Berkley as well. We love Portland, live in Seattle, and the kids are adventurous and open to everything. Any tips would be greatly appreciated; I've come to trust the taste profiles on this list a lot more than those on Yelp, et. al. Thanks in advance! Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Unless you own the company you're not a Rivendell Owner. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...
hey Tony, I had this one wander into my yard - it's a foot long - never seen one like this - not this size. I fed it some one of the cat foot flavors that my cat rejects http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/aaaP621.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/aaaP623.jpg On Monday, June 23, 2014 11:07:06 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Rob that is a sweet looking paint job! I didn't get my Saluki in the same picture but I saw a rare Eastern Wood Turtle while up in Winchester on my Riv on Sunday. Here is the little fella, great looking specimen! Another missed opportunity wildlife shot was Friday morning a nearly to-close encounter w/ a young 3 point buck on the CO trail! https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t8_SazXfdiE/U6j5OznGRyI/EdE/m08ROrqQXAE/s1600/DSC_3933.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wW-Jyakq0Y0/U6j5Wukj3NI/EdM/ICcWnucY8ZA/s1600/DSC_3929.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Under-biking the Saluki
Fantastic, Tony! Your Saluki is looking a wee bit like those old Australian outback sheep sheerer bikes! Strap on your bed roll and you're all set. Grin. For compact carrying and amazing sawing power, I love my Silky Saw Big Boy 2000. Though the blade is only 14, it's truly amazing the diameter of tree or log I can cut with this folding saw (I've done 18-20 diameters). I take it for trail work when there are downed trees. It's also how I would have cut down the standing tree you used the axe on (though it's always fun to use the axe too!). It takes some learning so you are using wedges or the working with the wood's own weight to keep the saw from binding (cut on the side that will fall away from the saw). http://www.silkysaws.com/Silky_Saws/Folding-Curved_2 With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 23, 2014 10:26:21 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: I think I found an edge of my own personal envelope where the Saluki is involved on Sunday... not that it wasn't up to the task but I think this was a bit of a stretch. To be fair I had just re-built my MB-5 with Bosco's and 2.1 knobbies to use for this purpose but ended up loaning the bike out to a buddies son who needed it for a Boy Scout ride over the same weekend. So anyway, I decided to try and make the Saluki into an off-road axe/saw hauling utility vehicle to access some family property in Winchester VA. I'm hoping to spend alot more time up there in the next couple years and think a dedicated off road bike (dare I say fat bike?!?) is in my future. Bottom line was I didn't bring the 4wd vehicle so I was either riding or hiking in. I particularly wanted to finally demo the sweet Hultsfor Bruk American Felling Axe I picked up off the list a month or so ago but hadn't gotten any use out of it and my 36 bow saw. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_GEGvqJlSyg/U6j7Pnx9YII/EdY/I0pyjUMc2iM/s1600/DSC_3898.jpg Yes that's surly junk straps and old toe clip straps holding the axe and bow saw on. I'm not endorsing or suggesting anyone else try this! I will be doing some more garage work to figure out a better, safer and more secure way to mount these things for the next iteration (and probably on a knobbier tired bike w/out fenders). It did, however, get the job done. My 'ride' out to the site I was working on is less than 1.5 miles and there was so much mud early and then hill after that I hike-a-biked most of it. The way back was easier to ride... I'm amazed how difficult I find starting up off-road hills from a dead stop. It is very disconcerting to have so much trouble getting the bike moving! https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MC3JfvbWs44/U6j8Fm4dffI/Edg/Y0kd-lA6obc/s1600/DSC_3916.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hmuLRM8HxHQ/U6j8KhtQVyI/Edo/XJmtUF-k0sM/s1600/DSC_3925.jpg Evidence of axe work (you'll just see the Bruks in the left picture against the far tree trunk. I had never chopped down a tree before today and so I can't really review the axe with any authority, but it seemed to do its job exceptionally well. I much preferred it for the big tasks than using my Fiskars X15 chopper. These two trees were standing dead pines that are adjacent to a semi-permanent campsite I'm putting in. I limbed both and stripped the bark and I'm hoping to go back and process them further to use in some construction projects! https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PNyNQJ6niws/U6j8yxB_dnI/Edw/GOffVu4UqFo/s1600/DSC_3910.jpg My Saluki and my dog (named Knish) at the platform that will eventually hold a shed and covered deck combo. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eIiZnkE0zQA/U6j9EUrcpsI/Ed4/MVw7CKr891Y/s1600/DSC_3937.jpg On the way out I walked the bike, rolling it on the edges of this morass... what a mess. On the way back I carried the bike as best I could which worked better. The mud was so thick and has alot of clay so it really sticks good. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l8Kl0K5wlpQ/U6j9XzVEAPI/EeA/fFjwDJTPbjM/s1600/DSC_3940.jpg The mud eventually jammed up the fenders and brakes as you can see a bit here. I need Riv to make a lugged, long-tail, fat/mid-fat tired bike that can haul outdoor tools and some firewood! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Under-biking the Saluki
Patrick that silky saw looks awesome (if a bit spendy!). 18-20 diameters are pretty impressive work! The bow saw definitely could have handled the tree faster, I did use it for the felling cut but I chopped out the hinge. I'm a total novice at this kind of thing but I'm enjoying myself. Eventually I'll have a shed up and my full size tools like those strapped to the bike will just live out there. At that point I think some smaller peices like your silky saw and a smaller axe will probably be my bike companions! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Under-biking the Saluki
If your chainstays are on the stiff side, don't know since I don't own a Saluki, you can run a BOB YAK trailer. These work really, really, well for poking around the woods. You can do single track with them. Anyway... if you have a YAK, you can get this: http://www.amazon.com/BOB-Tool-Rax-Ibex-Models/dp/B000RH94XK It's a tool rack for the trailer. I have one. It works great. I first saw these in a state park system. The park's trail maintenance crew had Trek Antelopes with Yak trailers, and these tool racks. They were hauling axes and chain saws for clearing chores. They were very happy with the setup. The biggest advantage to the trailer is that you can use a regular bike. The trailer attaches or detaches in about 20 seconds, making the transition from road or trail bike to work bike very simple. So you tend to use the system a lot. I use mine regularly. On Monday, June 23, 2014 11:26:21 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote: I think I found an edge of my own personal envelope where the Saluki is involved on Sunday... not that it wasn't up to the task but I think this was a bit of a stretch. To be fair I had just re-built my MB-5 with Bosco's and 2.1 knobbies to use for this purpose but ended up loaning the bike out to a buddies son who needed it for a Boy Scout ride over the same weekend. So anyway, I decided to try and make the Saluki into an off-road axe/saw hauling utility vehicle to access some family property in Winchester VA. I'm hoping to spend alot more time up there in the next couple years and think a dedicated off road bike (dare I say fat bike?!?) is in my future. Bottom line was I didn't bring the 4wd vehicle so I was either riding or hiking in. I particularly wanted to finally demo the sweet Hultsfor Bruk American Felling Axe I picked up off the list a month or so ago but hadn't gotten any use out of it and my 36 bow saw. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_GEGvqJlSyg/U6j7Pnx9YII/EdY/I0pyjUMc2iM/s1600/DSC_3898.jpg Yes that's surly junk straps and old toe clip straps holding the axe and bow saw on. I'm not endorsing or suggesting anyone else try this! I will be doing some more garage work to figure out a better, safer and more secure way to mount these things for the next iteration (and probably on a knobbier tired bike w/out fenders). It did, however, get the job done. My 'ride' out to the site I was working on is less than 1.5 miles and there was so much mud early and then hill after that I hike-a-biked most of it. The way back was easier to ride... I'm amazed how difficult I find starting up off-road hills from a dead stop. It is very disconcerting to have so much trouble getting the bike moving! https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MC3JfvbWs44/U6j8Fm4dffI/Edg/Y0kd-lA6obc/s1600/DSC_3916.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hmuLRM8HxHQ/U6j8KhtQVyI/Edo/XJmtUF-k0sM/s1600/DSC_3925.jpg Evidence of axe work (you'll just see the Bruks in the left picture against the far tree trunk. I had never chopped down a tree before today and so I can't really review the axe with any authority, but it seemed to do its job exceptionally well. I much preferred it for the big tasks than using my Fiskars X15 chopper. These two trees were standing dead pines that are adjacent to a semi-permanent campsite I'm putting in. I limbed both and stripped the bark and I'm hoping to go back and process them further to use in some construction projects! https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PNyNQJ6niws/U6j8yxB_dnI/Edw/GOffVu4UqFo/s1600/DSC_3910.jpg My Saluki and my dog (named Knish) at the platform that will eventually hold a shed and covered deck combo. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eIiZnkE0zQA/U6j9EUrcpsI/Ed4/MVw7CKr891Y/s1600/DSC_3937.jpg On the way out I walked the bike, rolling it on the edges of this morass... what a mess. On the way back I carried the bike as best I could which worked better. The mud was so thick and has alot of clay so it really sticks good. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l8Kl0K5wlpQ/U6j9XzVEAPI/EeA/fFjwDJTPbjM/s1600/DSC_3940.jpg The mud eventually jammed up the fenders and brakes as you can see a bit here. I need Riv to make a lugged, long-tail, fat/mid-fat tired bike that can haul outdoor tools and some firewood! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Under-biking the Saluki
Will that is awesome! I was thinking about trailers but mostly the dual wheeled varieties like the super-tough looking surly models. I'd forgotten about the BOB trailers. That might be a great option, though perhaps pulled by one of my B-stones rather than the Saluki. Not that it can't handle it but I'm already leaning on it as my daily commuter, go-fast, light tourer and everything else... :) I'd love to have seen those park rangers rolling out on Antelope's w/ Yak trailers... makes alot of sense. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Clem Rack and Bruce Gordon RnR's
A few minor updates to the S.H. which actually make it feel like an entirely new bike. Going to lose the Albatross in favor of the Albastache in a few days. Just need the right stem for that..(so if anyone has a 8cm, 26.0mm technomic or otherwise, let me know) The RnR's feel great, so supple and you hardly can tell it's a knobby on pavement. No buzz, more like a very low-grade whirr. Surprisingly they fit well underneath the Berhoud/SKS fenders I've had for a few years. For muddy conditions, they'd definitely need to come off though. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k8pG4L9bc6s/U6l63rN1hlI/AVQ/bS2jwnZ1tz8/s1600/photo+3.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SfC-CIzMNoM/U6l69lbeX-I/AVY/KdCd_ii1o8c/s1600/photo+4.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: PSA: Big X0-3 on the bay
It's steep for sure, but considering a current complete used Rivendell will run $1500 on the low end, and even X0-1's are fetching 2k...it's a nice complete bike in a big size that would stand in for an Atlantis for someone not ready to spend 3-4x the entry fee. On Monday, June 23, 2014 5:00:33 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: That price is a bit optimistic, especially when you add shipping. I would pay 3- or 400 for a red XO-3 in that condition, but 575+ ain't happening. JB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Rack and Bruce Gordon RnR's
that looks terrific! The clem rack seems well designed and very strong. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:20:19 AM UTC-4, jandrews_nyc wrote: A few minor updates to the S.H. which actually make it feel like an entirely new bike. Going to lose the Albatross in favor of the Albastache in a few days. Just need the right stem for that..(so if anyone has a 8cm, 26.0mm technomic or otherwise, let me know) The RnR's feel great, so supple and you hardly can tell it's a knobby on pavement. No buzz, more like a very low-grade whirr. Surprisingly they fit well underneath the Berhoud/SKS fenders I've had for a few years. For muddy conditions, they'd definitely need to come off though. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k8pG4L9bc6s/U6l63rN1hlI/AVQ/bS2jwnZ1tz8/s1600/photo+3.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SfC-CIzMNoM/U6l69lbeX-I/AVY/KdCd_ii1o8c/s1600/photo+4.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv Owner Qualifications
Ha!!! On Jun 24, 2014, at 4:04 AM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you own the company you're not a Rivendell Owner. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Under-biking the Saluki
what a fun ride+ report, Tony. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:26:21 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote: I think I found an edge of my own personal envelope where the Saluki is involved on Sunday... not that it wasn't up to the task but I think this was a bit of a stretch. To be fair I had just re-built my MB-5 with Bosco's and 2.1 knobbies to use for this purpose but ended up loaning the bike out to a buddies son who needed it for a Boy Scout ride over the same weekend. So anyway, I decided to try and make the Saluki into an off-road axe/saw hauling utility vehicle to access some family property in Winchester VA. I'm hoping to spend alot more time up there in the next couple years and think a dedicated off road bike (dare I say fat bike?!?) is in my future. Bottom line was I didn't bring the 4wd vehicle so I was either riding or hiking in. I particularly wanted to finally demo the sweet Hultsfor Bruk American Felling Axe I picked up off the list a month or so ago but hadn't gotten any use out of it and my 36 bow saw. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_GEGvqJlSyg/U6j7Pnx9YII/EdY/I0pyjUMc2iM/s1600/DSC_3898.jpg Yes that's surly junk straps and old toe clip straps holding the axe and bow saw on. I'm not endorsing or suggesting anyone else try this! I will be doing some more garage work to figure out a better, safer and more secure way to mount these things for the next iteration (and probably on a knobbier tired bike w/out fenders). It did, however, get the job done. My 'ride' out to the site I was working on is less than 1.5 miles and there was so much mud early and then hill after that I hike-a-biked most of it. The way back was easier to ride... I'm amazed how difficult I find starting up off-road hills from a dead stop. It is very disconcerting to have so much trouble getting the bike moving! https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MC3JfvbWs44/U6j8Fm4dffI/Edg/Y0kd-lA6obc/s1600/DSC_3916.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hmuLRM8HxHQ/U6j8KhtQVyI/Edo/XJmtUF-k0sM/s1600/DSC_3925.jpg Evidence of axe work (you'll just see the Bruks in the left picture against the far tree trunk. I had never chopped down a tree before today and so I can't really review the axe with any authority, but it seemed to do its job exceptionally well. I much preferred it for the big tasks than using my Fiskars X15 chopper. These two trees were standing dead pines that are adjacent to a semi-permanent campsite I'm putting in. I limbed both and stripped the bark and I'm hoping to go back and process them further to use in some construction projects! https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PNyNQJ6niws/U6j8yxB_dnI/Edw/GOffVu4UqFo/s1600/DSC_3910.jpg My Saluki and my dog (named Knish) at the platform that will eventually hold a shed and covered deck combo. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eIiZnkE0zQA/U6j9EUrcpsI/Ed4/MVw7CKr891Y/s1600/DSC_3937.jpg On the way out I walked the bike, rolling it on the edges of this morass... what a mess. On the way back I carried the bike as best I could which worked better. The mud was so thick and has alot of clay so it really sticks good. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l8Kl0K5wlpQ/U6j9XzVEAPI/EeA/fFjwDJTPbjM/s1600/DSC_3940.jpg The mud eventually jammed up the fenders and brakes as you can see a bit here. I need Riv to make a lugged, long-tail, fat/mid-fat tired bike that can haul outdoor tools and some firewood! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Under-biking the Saluki
First there were country bikes - then there were logging bikes. On Jun 24, 2014, at 4:51 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Fantastic, Tony! Your Saluki is looking a wee bit like those old Australian outback sheep sheerer bikes! Strap on your bed roll and you're all set. Grin. For compact carrying and amazing sawing power, I love my Silky Saw Big Boy 2000. Though the blade is only 14, it's truly amazing the diameter of tree or log I can cut with this folding saw (I've done 18-20 diameters). I take it for trail work when there are downed trees. It's also how I would have cut down the standing tree you used the axe on (though it's always fun to use the axe too!). It takes some learning so you are using wedges or the working with the wood's own weight to keep the saw from binding (cut on the side that will fall away from the saw). http://www.silkysaws.com/Silky_Saws/Folding-Curved_2 With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 23, 2014 10:26:21 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: I think I found an edge of my own personal envelope where the Saluki is involved on Sunday... not that it wasn't up to the task but I think this was a bit of a stretch. To be fair I had just re-built my MB-5 with Bosco's and 2.1 knobbies to use for this purpose but ended up loaning the bike out to a buddies son who needed it for a Boy Scout ride over the same weekend. So anyway, I decided to try and make the Saluki into an off-road axe/saw hauling utility vehicle to access some family property in Winchester VA. I'm hoping to spend alot more time up there in the next couple years and think a dedicated off road bike (dare I say fat bike?!?) is in my future. Bottom line was I didn't bring the 4wd vehicle so I was either riding or hiking in. I particularly wanted to finally demo the sweet Hultsfor Bruk American Felling Axe I picked up off the list a month or so ago but hadn't gotten any use out of it and my 36 bow saw. Yes that's surly junk straps and old toe clip straps holding the axe and bow saw on. I'm not endorsing or suggesting anyone else try this! I will be doing some more garage work to figure out a better, safer and more secure way to mount these things for the next iteration (and probably on a knobbier tired bike w/out fenders). It did, however, get the job done. My 'ride' out to the site I was working on is less than 1.5 miles and there was so much mud early and then hill after that I hike-a-biked most of it. The way back was easier to ride... I'm amazed how difficult I find starting up off-road hills from a dead stop. It is very disconcerting to have so much trouble getting the bike moving! Evidence of axe work (you'll just see the Bruks in the left picture against the far tree trunk. I had never chopped down a tree before today and so I can't really review the axe with any authority, but it seemed to do its job exceptionally well. I much preferred it for the big tasks than using my Fiskars X15 chopper. These two trees were standing dead pines that are adjacent to a semi-permanent campsite I'm putting in. I limbed both and stripped the bark and I'm hoping to go back and process them further to use in some construction projects! My Saluki and my dog (named Knish) at the platform that will eventually hold a shed and covered deck combo. On the way out I walked the bike, rolling it on the edges of this morass... what a mess. On the way back I carried the bike as best I could which worked better. The mud was so thick and has alot of clay so it really sticks good. The mud eventually jammed up the fenders and brakes as you can see a bit here. I need Riv to make a lugged, long-tail, fat/mid-fat tired bike that can haul outdoor tools and some firewood! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Rack and Bruce Gordon RnR's
I have a new 9cm Talux. I wrote you off group, but know those get lost sometimes. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Under-biking the Saluki
The 18-20era definitely take creativity and would go faster with a bigger saw -- but it is doable. Undersawing. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:45:25 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Patrick that silky saw looks awesome (if a bit spendy!). 18-20 diameters are pretty impressive work! The bow saw definitely could have handled the tree faster, I did use it for the felling cut but I chopped out the hinge. I'm a total novice at this kind of thing but I'm enjoying myself. Eventually I'll have a shed up and my full size tools like those strapped to the bike will just live out there. At that point I think some smaller peices like your silky saw and a smaller axe will probably be my bike companions! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:04:53 AM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you own the company you're not a Rivendell Owner. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Moustache Bars (both 25.4 and 26.0)
Hello, I have two Nitto Moustache bars for sale. One has a 25.4mm clamp area and the other has a 26.0mm clamp area. They are for sale for $26 ea. plus shipping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv Owner Qualifications
This isn't my list, so my thoughts on the matter are to be taken with the appropriate grain of salt, but I'd be inclined to say that interest in the topics discussed on the RBWOB list is probably all that's required to participate. The conversation revolves around Rivendell Bicycles, bicycle components, and riding in the Riv-way, but I have never encountered any form of exclusivity from participants with regard to the particular bicycles posters are seen standing near or riding. I'd say that being willing to just ride should be good enough. That's not an official response of course, but it's one that aims towards the sort of inclusion that I've always felt Grant and Co. like to foster. Hugh all together now Flynn Newburyport, MA On Jun 24, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Addison Wilhite wrote: Eventually, to be fully assimilated, you need to be fitted for one of these. And some sandals and a seersucker. Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success Educator: Professional Portfolio Blogger: Reno Rambler Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:04:53 AM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you own the company you're not a Rivendell Owner. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 574818-borg4.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Under-biking the Saluki
Now you need a portable saw mill to process those logs into 2x4s, and build the structures out of self-created lumber! here's a cheapie, well, relatively speaking. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200325617_200325617?cm_mmc=Google-pla-_-Logging-_-Saw%20Milling%20%2B%20Accessories-_-190610ci_src=17588969ci_sku=190610ci_src=17588969ci_sku=190610gclid=CjkKEQjww6SdBRDls9vxsf7EoM0BEiQART_xPtamsjgelBA7Gnw5gIEwcTUiCnbUSR7j9Tg-s_ikAKnw_wcB On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: I think I found an edge of my own personal envelope where the Saluki is involved on Sunday... not that it wasn't up to the task but I think this was a bit of a stretch. To be fair I had just re-built my MB-5 with Bosco's and 2.1 knobbies to use for this purpose but ended up loaning the bike out to a buddies son who needed it for a Boy Scout ride over the same weekend. So anyway, I decided to try and make the Saluki into an off-road axe/saw hauling utility vehicle to access some family property in Winchester VA. I'm hoping to spend alot more time up there in the next couple years and think a dedicated off road bike (dare I say fat bike?!?) is in my future. Bottom line was I didn't bring the 4wd vehicle so I was either riding or hiking in. I particularly wanted to finally demo the sweet Hultsfor Bruk American Felling Axe I picked up off the list a month or so ago but hadn't gotten any use out of it and my 36 bow saw. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_GEGvqJlSyg/U6j7Pnx9YII/EdY/I0pyjUMc2iM/s1600/DSC_3898.jpg Yes that's surly junk straps and old toe clip straps holding the axe and bow saw on. I'm not endorsing or suggesting anyone else try this! I will be doing some more garage work to figure out a better, safer and more secure way to mount these things for the next iteration (and probably on a knobbier tired bike w/out fenders). It did, however, get the job done. My 'ride' out to the site I was working on is less than 1.5 miles and there was so much mud early and then hill after that I hike-a-biked most of it. The way back was easier to ride... I'm amazed how difficult I find starting up off-road hills from a dead stop. It is very disconcerting to have so much trouble getting the bike moving! https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MC3JfvbWs44/U6j8Fm4dffI/Edg/Y0kd-lA6obc/s1600/DSC_3916.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hmuLRM8HxHQ/U6j8KhtQVyI/Edo/XJmtUF-k0sM/s1600/DSC_3925.jpg Evidence of axe work (you'll just see the Bruks in the left picture against the far tree trunk. I had never chopped down a tree before today and so I can't really review the axe with any authority, but it seemed to do its job exceptionally well. I much preferred it for the big tasks than using my Fiskars X15 chopper. These two trees were standing dead pines that are adjacent to a semi-permanent campsite I'm putting in. I limbed both and stripped the bark and I'm hoping to go back and process them further to use in some construction projects! https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PNyNQJ6niws/U6j8yxB_dnI/Edw/GOffVu4UqFo/s1600/DSC_3910.jpg My Saluki and my dog (named Knish) at the platform that will eventually hold a shed and covered deck combo. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eIiZnkE0zQA/U6j9EUrcpsI/Ed4/MVw7CKr891Y/s1600/DSC_3937.jpg On the way out I walked the bike, rolling it on the edges of this morass... what a mess. On the way back I carried the bike as best I could which worked better. The mud was so thick and has alot of clay so it really sticks good. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l8Kl0K5wlpQ/U6j9XzVEAPI/EeA/fFjwDJTPbjM/s1600/DSC_3940.jpg The mud eventually jammed up the fenders and brakes as you can see a bit here. I need Riv to make a lugged, long-tail, fat/mid-fat tired bike that can haul outdoor tools and some firewood! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Any recommendations on a Atlantis wannabe?
I own an Atlantis and it has been my favorite bike, ever. I bought the frame new in '99 or so and it has been my main transportation since then. I love the fit and am trying to find an inexpensive frame, such as an old chromoly Mt. Bike frame, that has close to the same geometry for my girlfriend. I am hoping the tribe has some suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Any recommendations on a Atlantis wannabe?
I think the Surly Long Haul Trucker is a pretty decent approximation. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: I own an Atlantis and it has been my favorite bike, ever. I bought the frame new in '99 or so and it has been my main transportation since then. I love the fit and am trying to find an inexpensive frame, such as an old chromoly Mt. Bike frame, that has close to the same geometry for my girlfriend. I am hoping the tribe has some suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: New 9cm Nitto Talux 26.0mm stem
This is a new 9cm Nitto Talux 26.0mm stem. I took it out of its plastic, but never installed it as the 12 cm on the QB worked out great for me. (there may be a double post. I apologize if so. Google acted oddly the first attempt). $70 shipped. Please respond off list. Thanks! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Under-biking the Saluki
Another advantage of a trailer is that it can double as a wheelbarrow type device once you arrived at your work site. http://www.bikeshophub.com/files/2011/05/wandertec-bongo-trailer-small-home-depot-600x732.jpg Kevin Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: New 9cm Nitto Talux 26.0mm stem
This is a new 9cm Nitto Talux 26.0mm stem. I took it out of its plastic, but never installed it as the 12 cm on the QB worked out great for me. $70 shipped. Please respond off list. Thanks! With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Thanks, all. I do enjoy the discussions here. For those sensitive to the whiff of neurosis or of an almost obnoxious admiration of Rivendell, well, that might be part of it, but I justified asking the question because it seemed like it might generate some interesting dialogue. As for how nice the Sackville Small Saddlesack is--it's very. I sometimes wish I'd gotten a medium or even a large, otherwise it's great. Though I haven't used it much lately, as the saddle mounting position interferes with the Trail-A-Bike my daughter is often on. Should I need the space, I figure I'll just strap it to my front rack. Also super happy with a set of Swift Mini-Rolltop Panniers. Just to drift off topic slightly, who has a favorite cheap way to heat water at camp? Just looking for coffee on the morning of S24o's. Small pack size is secondary to small price, but both are important. Esbit or Trangia? What is the water holding vessel? Is there a good bottle or pot that can nest in a campfire? Not real interested in a $100 water heater from MSR. . . On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Any recommendations on a Atlantis wannabe?
Depends on what size wheels you are looking for. If 700c, I might suggest the New Albion Privateer: http://newalbioncycles.com/privateer1/ Or Soma Saga: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/saga Maybe slightly better tubes on the Saga, but who knows? I took a short ride on the built up Saga and found it to be nice parts and quite the ride. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:48:25 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: I own an Atlantis and it has been my favorite bike, ever. I bought the frame new in '99 or so and it has been my main transportation since then. I love the fit and am trying to find an inexpensive frame, such as an old chromoly Mt. Bike frame, that has close to the same geometry for my girlfriend. I am hoping the tribe has some suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Any recommendations on a Atlantis wannabe?
Or many late 80s to early 90s rigid MTBs can fill the role adequately. Look for the top-end models for nice tubing and geometry. Most sizes of Atlantii have 72 degree head and seat tubes and 44cm chainstays, for comparison purposes. Some vintage MTBs have strange tech dead-ends, though. My '88 Schwinn KOM has chainstay U-brakes and a Uniglide hub, for example, and no braze-ons (because race bike). If I hadn't already named my KOM the The King (of 'Merica), I'd consider Dr. Strangebrake, or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the U-brake. The U-brakes work great with new cables and Kool-stop pads, but they never stop being inconvenient to service. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: I own an Atlantis and it has been my favorite bike, ever. I bought the frame new in '99 or so and it has been my main transportation since then. I love the fit and am trying to find an inexpensive frame, such as an old chromoly Mt. Bike frame, that has close to the same geometry for my girlfriend. I am hoping the tribe has some suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Rack and Bruce Gordon RnR's
I just fine tuned my Clem rack on my Sam but up front. I also have the BG tires but bent into my Surly but have considered moving them to the Sam as I prefer them to the lil big bens in there now. I'll post my pics as soon as I get my swift short stacks back which are out in loan. FW, CCB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
I'm pretty thrilled with the Esbit and use the titanium bowl that Riv offers to heat water. I also use a few wood matches leaning over the fuel pellet to give the flames a slightly wider disbursal (I hope that makes sense). Seems to work better that way. If you have high winds you may need some sort of wind break. Regards, Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology http://www.washoecountyschools.org/aact/ *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”* Educator: Professional Portfolio http://addisonwilhite.blogspot.com/ Blogger: Reno Rambler http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/ Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee http://www.rtcwashoe.com/public-transportation-22-124.html On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Mathew Greiner mathew.grei...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, all. I do enjoy the discussions here. For those sensitive to the whiff of neurosis or of an almost obnoxious admiration of Rivendell, well, that might be part of it, but I justified asking the question because it seemed like it might generate some interesting dialogue. As for how nice the Sackville Small Saddlesack is--it's very. I sometimes wish I'd gotten a medium or even a large, otherwise it's great. Though I haven't used it much lately, as the saddle mounting position interferes with the Trail-A-Bike my daughter is often on. Should I need the space, I figure I'll just strap it to my front rack. Also super happy with a set of Swift Mini-Rolltop Panniers. Just to drift off topic slightly, who has a favorite cheap way to heat water at camp? Just looking for coffee on the morning of S24o's. Small pack size is secondary to small price, but both are important. Esbit or Trangia? What is the water holding vessel? Is there a good bottle or pot that can nest in a campfire? Not real interested in a $100 water heater from MSR. . . On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:02:29 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to be ordered soon. Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Any recommendations on a Atlantis wannabe?
Thanks! On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 8:42 AM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: Depends on what size wheels you are looking for. If 700c, I might suggest the New Albion Privateer: http://newalbioncycles.com/privateer1/ Or Soma Saga: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/saga Maybe slightly better tubes on the Saga, but who knows? I took a short ride on the built up Saga and found it to be nice parts and quite the ride. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:48:25 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: I own an Atlantis and it has been my favorite bike, ever. I bought the frame new in '99 or so and it has been my main transportation since then. I love the fit and am trying to find an inexpensive frame, such as an old chromoly Mt. Bike frame, that has close to the same geometry for my girlfriend. I am hoping the tribe has some suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/CBZ8tOBMLWo/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Gee . . . let me think . . .. ho hum ho hum . . . . If you are HERE . . . . you qualify :) This isn't rocket science ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Any recommendations on a Atlantis wannabe?
Any old Bridgestone MB-something should do fine for not too much money. I don't know about your area, but there's a billion of 'em here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Every 26-inch wheel Bstone in N. CA. seems to have been kept on the road in reasonably decent shape. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:48:25 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: I own an Atlantis and it has been my favorite bike, ever. I bought the frame new in '99 or so and it has been my main transportation since then. I love the fit and am trying to find an inexpensive frame, such as an old chromoly Mt. Bike frame, that has close to the same geometry for my girlfriend. I am hoping the tribe has some suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Losing Bike weight vs. Rider weight. Which one more effectively makes you go faster?
Patrick, I'm doing the keto thing in the hopes that I can reverse my recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetes, lose some weight and be able to spend more time riding my bicycle in interesting places. I'm encouraged by your experience with a ketogenic diet but did you experience a transition phase where things were difficult? When I get on my bike, I literally feel like I've already ridden 15 miles. My legs are just dead weight. I know this is a side-effect of ketosis but I'm wondering how long it might take for it to pass. I'm only on day eight. Blood sugar is holding steady below 100 and ketone strips are showing large concentrations of ketones in my urine. On Sunday, May 11, 2014 1:45:02 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Rework the engine. It's far cheaper and better for your health. I used to weigh nearly 300 pounds. I now weigh 190. I'm now on a full time ketogenic diet (high fat, very low carb). I can ride all day without food and far less water (processing carbs takes a LOT of water). I'm riding string, better, and farther than ever and feeling far better doing it. No muscle soreness after long rides (that's a ketogenic thing apparently). Of course, I'm doing the go light thing as well, so it needn't be exclusive. But I focused on the engine first and am delighted. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:31:59 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Assuming the 1-manpower engine stays the same. From time to time I think of shaving weight off bikes and I wonder if it really matters for a non-racer person like me who could stand to lose 25 lbs. I think if I lost the weight it would be much easier to turn the cranks than if I shaved 4 lbs. off the bike. But I am not sure how these mechanical things work, so I was wondering. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Losing Bike weight vs. Rider weight. Which one more effectively makes you go faster?
Great questions, Chris. I'll reply off group. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Looking for a Carradice saddlebag setup
I'm looking for a camper or nelson longflap, and a bagman qr support. Any color is fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Losing Bike weight vs. Rider weight. Which one more effectively makes you go faster?
I'm interested in your reply too. In a similar boat as Chris but blood sugar is higher. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:09:16 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Great questions, Chris. I'll reply off group. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Any recommendations on a Atlantis wannabe?
Clayton: Joe's suggestion of a Bridgestone MB- is a good one a possible expansion of that thought would be the RB-T or one of the XO variants. As predecessors to Rivendell they will share the same design philosophy, i.e., longer chainstays, rack eyelets, decent gearing, etc. dougP On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:48:25 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: I own an Atlantis and it has been my favorite bike, ever. I bought the frame new in '99 or so and it has been my main transportation since then. I love the fit and am trying to find an inexpensive frame, such as an old chromoly Mt. Bike frame, that has close to the same geometry for my girlfriend. I am hoping the tribe has some suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Losing Bike weight vs. Rider weight. Which one more effectively makes you go faster?
Och! I'm sorry. I sent it via the web interface, so have no record of it. Perhaps Chris can forward it to you? One thing I meant to put in but don't know if I did or not is that measuring ketones via urine is not very helpful. As you becomes keto adapted, your body will hold on to ketones, recognizing them as fuel, and so you need to measure blood ketones. So ketones in the urine can be zero even though you are fully keto adapted. For example, when I first shifted, my urine smelled sweet (ketones) but doesn't anymore even through I'm burning almost exclusively fat/ketones. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:08:32 PM UTC-6, RJM wrote: I'm interested in your reply too. In a similar boat as Chris but blood sugar is higher. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:09:16 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Great questions, Chris. I'll reply off group. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Travel to SFO / RBW: Food Tips?
I second The Bica recommendation. It's my home away from home. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] A ride report on my summer soltice ride
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/06/on-day-that-sun-stands-still-east-creek.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. *b* ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Interesting, I read Grant as saying this works for me - if it helps you use it, but find your own path. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. *b* ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] possible riv sighting skagit flats
nice fellow headed north on Farm to Market Road just south of Edison, Washington on what looked like a blue riv with a handlebar bag. we were a 68 atlantis, a 65 Redwood and my wonderful 54 Rambouillet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.
Ann My own experience is the same as yours. 60 psi rear and 55 in front. Faster downhill on coarse roads and surprisingly good to climb on. On Sunday, June 22, 2014, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco. I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we would since this was my second year on the trip. The tires are marked for 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; around 60 psi ended up working well for me. Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My buddy with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires were. When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I grew tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just rode straight with no trouble. No flats, no problems. I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] haven't been riding my Roadeo lately
I was having problems with the nether regions and had to finally give up on Brooks B17's. On the way, I discovered the Specialized Romin saddle and Assos shorts. My discomfort was so bad that I went to Kaiser and had all the tests. Health wise, everything is ok. Well, the Romin saddle and Assos shorts are my go to. Now, my Roadeo's seat tube angle is too shallow for my Romin saddle. I'm going to try one of my Rivet saddles with my new Soma Highway bars. I think this is going to be a winner. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
yet here you remain On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:29:08 PM UTC-5, Robert Barr wrote: Interesting, I read Grant as saying this works for me - if it helps you use it, but find your own path. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Cecily Walker cecily...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:03:38 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: yep, grant is the leader and we're all just followers. *b* ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] A ride report on my summer soltice ride
Nice recovery. Lack of sleep lethargy is hard to overcome, especially when you tack on all the riding above your comfort level on the first day. I wish the 2nd day of the 600K I rode this year was easy like Sunday morning. Instead, it was straight into the teeth of a 25mph headwind after the passage of a front. I made it to the turnaround control with 3 minutes to spare. OK, so the return trip was easy like Sunday morning at least ;) one of the few times I have wished for a bigger gear than 46 in front. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Iron Rider 1000...@gmail.com wrote: http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/06/on-day-that-sun-stands-still-east-creek.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications
Now we're getting deep. :-) dougP On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:10:03 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Gee . . . let me think . . .. ho hum ho hum . . . . If you are HERE . . . . you qualify :) This isn't rocket science ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] A ride report on my summer soltice ride
Inspiring ride report, that is one way to truly get the most out of the longest day! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] haven't been riding my Roadeo lately
I hear lots of good things about those Assos shorts but man are they expen$ive. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote: I was having problems with the nether regions and had to finally give up on Brooks B17's. On the way, I discovered the Specialized Romin saddle and Assos shorts. My discomfort was so bad that I went to Kaiser and had all the tests. Health wise, everything is ok. Well, the Romin saddle and Assos shorts are my go to. Now, my Roadeo's seat tube angle is too shallow for my Romin saddle. I'm going to try one of my Rivet saddles with my new Soma Highway bars. I think this is going to be a winner. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Waxed dental floss as thread for Riv type bags
This seems like a pretty resourceful group, but just thought Id share how great waxed dental floss is for sewing on patches and making repairs to Riv type bags( waxed canvas and such) Some/ most probably already know this, but I just found out about it. its WAY easier to work with than regular thread, just need a heavier duty hand sewing needle, and seems more durable. Sew away!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
