Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Garth
Yes Patrick Moore ! It is all rather silly . All these names for diets . HaH ! The funny thing about them all, is that once they are defined , they are impossible to follow , as they create a prison within their own rules . For every theory, there is another to refute it. For every

[RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Hechmer
I don't know which is stronger, but would assume the larger triangle. I'm sure the canti mounts are strong enough. I resisted the canti mounts for a long time, thinking it would make brake adjustment more difficult, but this does not turn out to be the case. It may actually make the

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Ron Mc
bad science has always made for entertaining reading On Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:50:58 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote: Yes Patrick Moore ! It is all rather silly . All these names for diets . HaH ! The funny thing about them all, is that once they are defined , they are impossible to

[RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread Anton Tutter
I think practically, it makes no difference at all. The amount of weight that a small front rack has to hold is not enough to test the limits of the strength of the two different triangulation geometries of the two mounting approaches. Personally I think if the bike already has canti studs,

[RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread Anton Tutter
For anything more than a small handlebar rack (e.g., a large porteur rack), it makes better sense for the rack struts to extend down to the dropouts and attach to eyelets there. Otherwise you have a large horizontal compressive force component on the rack struts if they are attached up high.

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Ron Mc
what blows my mind is that nobody argues simply for a healthy attitude - don't graze on junk, which is the exact cause of American obesity (it's not an Illuminati plot). Everything is extreme, rather than balanced. Point at everybody else and call them carb-mongers. The Only Answer is Death

Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Ron Mc
BTW, if you get rid of mega-food-industrial conspiracies, then no one is responsible for your state of health other than yourself. On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:42:22 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: what blows my mind is that nobody argues simply for a healthy attitude - don't graze on junk,

RE: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Rellenos Ron: My favorite pic of the morning – that looks tasty! Tom From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Mc Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 9:05 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related,

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Patrick Moore
This is what I don't see. Corn came to North America even later than to middle America, yet the better part of two whole continents built flourishing civilizations on corn and a couple of other vegetables (those were the dietary basis, though of course they ate other things. Much of the rest of SA

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Patrick Moore
Because such things show ideological fervor and not scientific dispassion. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:25 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: On Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:35:19 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Incidentally, remembering the story

RE: [RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I just recently mounted two racks (front and rear) to the canti studs on my Stumpjumper. The mount seems extremely solid (but these are the Nitto Campee racks that mount at the dropouts and at the canti studs, the ones that have removable pannier racks, so I would expect the mount to be

RE: [RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Well, Michael Hechmer’s post suggests I may be incorrect about the difficulty of subsequent brake adjustments, and since I’m almost always inclined to believe the reality that is premised on my faulty bike mechanic skills, he’s probably right! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

Re: [RBW] Alternatives to MUSA pants and knickers?

2014-11-08 Thread Kevin M
The midweight Swrve pants are awesome, and they happen to be on sale right now! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul

2014-11-08 Thread Paul G
Nice! How do those Compass tires compare to the JB greens? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread justinaugust
1491 was an amazing read. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Aaron Young
I'm not a nutritionist, but I do practice medicine if that counts for anything. In medicine when there is a disease that has many different possible treatments it indicates we really don't have a good treatment yet, or we don't understand the disease very well yet. I think this is why there are

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread LeahFoy
I, for one, am grateful Eat Bacon Don't Jog has been written. I happen to be one of those folks who simply cannot handle a high-carb diet. I come from a family with rampant diabetes - both types - and though I'm only 33 and NOT overweight, my lab results revealed prediabetes last month.

[RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread rcnute
I have to partially dissent from my esteemed colleague Anton, having successfully used the mid-fork with a few porteur racks with moderate albeit not super heavy loads (a la the paper stacks of the original porteurs). Ryan On Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:34:29 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote:

[RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread Anton Tutter
We're mostly on the same page-- I agree the mid-fork attachment for a large rack can be OK, just not for really heavy loads. That just wouldn't make engineering sense. But on the plus side, a rack with mid-fork attachment would not alter the compliance characteristics of the fork, whereas

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Ron Mc
Leah, please don't be offended, but you started off with high-carb diet. I don't think high-anything diet can be good for anybody. The only high thing that is good for any of us is high activity. Like going for a bike ride. I just got home from 30 miles and finished with that tough climb

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread LeahFoy
Ron, I'm not offended. High carb diet is what we have in the USofA and that is what I'm referring to. Doctors have been saying the high-carb diet is great - been saying it for decades, and we see that it is not. Low-fat, lots of grains, low-fat pasta and rice, it's all been touted as superior

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Ron Mc
ok - thanks On Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:07:10 AM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote: Ron, I'm not offended. High carb diet is what we have in the USofA and that is what I'm referring to. Doctors have been saying the high-carb diet is great - been saying it for decades, and we see that it is not.

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
There is plenty of science to back up the Daniel Diet. I think you take issue because a group of people got their diet's name and inspiration from the Bible. I doubt you are appalled by the names of diets derived from non-Christian entities (ex. Paleo). What if they got their name and

[RBW] FS: 66cm orange Rambouillet F/F/HS

2014-11-08 Thread Kieran J
Hi Folks, I have a Rivendell Rambouillet frameset I'm getting ready to re-home. The plan is to move up one size to a 68cm. About this one: - Orange. - It’s what Riv called a 66, so it’s: - 64cm ST, C-C - 60cm TT - 92.5cm standover with 33.3 Jack Browns. - The JBs

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Eric Norris
There are many plants that have naturally developed toxins so that insects won’t eat them. A plant “that even a bug has the sense not to eat” isn’t necessarily bad. —Eric “Not Genetically Modified” N P.S. Many insects have themselves developed toxins that make them unpalatable to other

Re: [RBW] FS: New Sackville, New Brooks, New NITTO rack

2014-11-08 Thread David Hays
Seat still available? David On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:57 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: New Brooks B17 Imperial - Honey Briefly mounted on my new Rivendell and then removed after a couple test rides in nice weather. Less than 30 miles on it I would guess. It is a beautiful

Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto Campee front rack

2014-11-08 Thread Kendallspower
Hmmm. I want one for the wifes Betty. You think the 26 is better? On Friday, November 7, 2014 2:20:20 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: As far as I understand, they come in two sizes: a 700 / 650 sized one that you pictured (with angled mounts), and a 26 version (with straight mounts, presumably

[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul

2014-11-08 Thread GAJett
Those are some pretty impressive breaks! Took a look at the Gevenalle front. It only has a 14-tooth capacity. My old Superbe had 18, so works perfectly well on the current 17-tooth jump. On the old Raleigh, with the 23-tooth jump, it worked perfectly well as long as I didn't use the bottom 2

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Humans, like bears, pigs, and rats, are omnivores. A true carnivore cannot move its jaw from side to side to grind its food. There are monogastric herbivores, like horses and rabbits. Using cows' guts to prove humans must be carnivores is rhetoric, not science.

[RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread Ron Mc
I think you have more variability in aligning the tilt of the rack with a Mark's rack which uses the nitto rod bolts. With the Mini rack, if you need to change the tilt you end up with, you have to bend something in the rack. If you may move the rack later, I think the Mark's rack will also

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
That is true Eric but you are comparing apples to oranges. I was referring to GMO. A GMO or genetically modified organism is created by merging the DNA from different species to create an organism; plant, animal, bacteria or virus which cannot be produced in nature or through traditional

[RBW] Are P clamps supposed to do this?

2014-11-08 Thread lungimsam
Front rack feels rock solid when pulling on the rack. But if I grab the rubber p clamps themselves, I can sorta slide them a bit a few mm's. Is this just how P clamps are supposed to be? Bolts are totally snugged up and forks under p clamps are lined with bartape. -- You received this

[RBW] Re: FS: New Sackville, New Brooks, New NITTO rack

2014-11-08 Thread lungimsam
Yes it is still available! I just send you a private response. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

2014-11-08 Thread Marc Irwin
I like the Soma Express at 38mm. It's the Pasela tread with beefed up sidewalls for city riding. They've treated me well the past few years. Marc On Monday, October 27, 2014 4:58:49 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote: Panaracer is coming out with a 650B x 42mm version of the Pasela in 2015.

Re: [RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Hechmer
I'm curious. Which brakes? What was the problem and how did the rack figure into all of that? And how much prior experience do you have adjusting these brakes? You suggest learning as a solution, lets see if we can narrow that down a bit. Michael On Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:10:03 AM

[RBW] Re: Are P clamps supposed to do this?

2014-11-08 Thread hsmitham
Perhaps the bar tape is too slick and allowing the P-Clamp to slide. If I'm not mistaken they are designed to have the rubber make direct contact with the fork. Or maybe you used the wrong size? An image would help. ~Hugh Los Angeles, CA On Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:46:29 PM UTC-8,

[RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

2014-11-08 Thread Coconutbill
I'm pretty happy with the Panaracer Col de la Vie . I haven't taken a caliper to them. no lumps. no problems seating them on my Synergy/Dyad rims. I haven't tried them under a touring load, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto Campee front rack

2014-11-08 Thread Tim Gavin
Does her Betty Foy have eyelets on the front and back of the fork dropouts http://38.media.tumblr.com/d34a0a2afbdf5798f997e822945aa2c9/tumblr_ndv9fx7wXs1qe3ngpo3_1280.jpg? If so, then the 26 version https://www.benscycle.com/p-2125-nitto-campee-front-rack-26.aspx would work fine on the front

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Eric Norris
True, but simply saying that we shouldn't eat any plant (grain) that an insect won't eat is a much broader statement, and covers plants with naturally occurring defenses. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:28 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Patrick Moore
OK, perhaps I will retract the annoyed and leave only the amused. For the record, I am a practicing Orthodox Christian and I am quite ready to believe Daniel -- that is, to believe that the book, Daniel, accurately relates what happened to the prophet, Daniel. I just find the gee whiz!!! factor on

Re: [RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-08 Thread Tim Gavin
I picked up a Nitto M12 for my KOM (which has no other eyelets besides crown hole and canti), and I'm really satisfied with it. It came with the canti bolts http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rh2.htm included, and they keep the brake bolt tension separate from the rack mount. It mounted very

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Patrick Moore
True omnivores find a Moscow Mule, made with good vodka and real ginger beer, a Very Good Thing after a nice bosque ride on the Fargo. (Even if they are Orthodox Christians.) (Mblmblmblmbl, Amen.) On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Humans,

Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto Campee front rack

2014-11-08 Thread Dan McNamara
There is (or was) a 650B version available. Might be one still in stock somewhere. Straight mount at dropouts but more clearance than the 26 version. I did a bent strut hack to mount at the mid-fork braze-ons instead of canti posts. Works great. Dan On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Tim Gavin

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
I didn't say that. I was specifically referring to GMO's. At least I thought I was. Oh well ... lets move on. Matt On Saturday, November 8, 2014 2:20:22 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: True, but simply saying that we shouldn't eat any plant (grain) that an insect won't eat is a much

[RBW] Re: FS: New Sackville, New Brooks, New NITTO rack

2014-11-08 Thread lungimsam
Saddle is sold. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Alternatives to MUSA pants and knickers?

2014-11-08 Thread rperks
In the last 8 months I have made the move to Swrve pants/shorts/knickers almost every day. I have one pair of regular jeans that have not worn out yet, but will be done soon. In the last year or so, the cut on the product has gotten a little more generous. Also, do like they say and measure

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Eric Norris
What? It’s just getting fun. —Eric “Half Gallon of Organic Milk in the Fridge” N On Nov 8, 2014, at 3:03 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Oh well ... lets move on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Bike Industry Controlled by Grant Petersen

2014-11-08 Thread Noah Deuce
Sorry to Grant for misspelling his last name (if I were better at this google groups stuff I'd change the title at the top)! And thanks for giving us the opportunity to buy more versatile bikes. As to Mike's point about the midwest gravel races being racy, well, yes and no. I did Dirty Kanza

[RBW] Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

2014-11-08 Thread WETH
If it is not thread hijacking, anyone have experience with both Nifftyswifty and Soma New Xpress 650b tires and willing to share thoughts on how they compare? Hugh, apologies if this pulls too far away from your original question. -Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Wheel Stabilizer or no?

2014-11-08 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Cecily, A possible solution could be the Mark's Hub Area Rack. Due to it's lower center of gravity I'd think it would have less flop. That combined with a double legged kick stand should almost guarantee a solution. But hey ... no guarantees :) Matt On Friday, October 31, 2014 5:25:43

[RBW] Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-08 Thread Manuel Acosta
You know it's true love when you decide that a ride with a love one is more important than a ride for yourself. Pictures proved that I am incredibly lucky to have someone to join me: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk62KXd2 Manny Weddings are expensive Acosta -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel Stabilizer or no?

2014-11-08 Thread Patrick Moore
This reminds me of the time I installed a Wald Newsboy basket -- the biggest available, 21 X 15 X 9, now apparently called just the Giant Delivery Basket -- on the front of a beater, and tested it a l'outrance with 2 cinderblocks -- 52 lb total. I actually managed to ride it a half block, but was

[RBW] Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-08 Thread WETH
Congratulations! Rides with my wife are my favorite rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Found at the Co-Op Tonight

2014-11-08 Thread Andrew Drummond
Riv's version of these stems had the same hardware. My recollection is that the quills are friction-welded on, so Grant spec'ed them as long as he could. Looking closely at one NItto Technomic stem I have in the parts bin, I can see and feel the joint. I love the look of these stems too (I

[RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

2014-11-08 Thread rperks
FWIW Schwalbe is hitting the 650b market a bit harder soon. There is a 650b x 62 http://www.schwalbe.com/en/tour-reader/super-moto-x.html and a couple of others like the Kojak and big ben too Rob On Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:35:46 PM UTC-8, WETH wrote: If it is not thread hijacking,

[RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

2014-11-08 Thread hsmitham
Erl, No worries. I welcome which ever direction this post goes. I've been running the Soma New Express for nearly a year now and I like them. Very few flats and only from those pesky stickers called Goat heads. I haven't used them really off road nor with a load so can't speak to that

Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Grant Petersen
Humans are omnivores, of course. I hesitate to say THIS, but if we evolved from apes, and it's understandable that we'd have some ape-like features--like a sideways-moving jaw, and eyeballs in front. Right now and for the last 200,000 years, our digestive system looks more like a dog's than

Re: [RBW] Alternatives to MUSA pants and knickers?

2014-11-08 Thread Chris Chen
Swrve midweight DWR knickers every day. Amazingly versatile, I wear them down to the 30s, until spring ends. On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: In the last 8 months I have made the move to Swrve pants/shorts/knickers almost every day. I have one pair of regular

Re: [RBW] Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-08 Thread Chris Chen
Weddings are expensive because we're all invited, right? :) I kid I kid On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: You know it's true love when you decide that a ride with a love one is more important than a ride for yourself. Pictures proved that I am