[RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
The side play in the upper pulley goes with Shimano's indexing. The shifter has a very crisp break when going to the next gear and the abrupt pull of cable and the tiny bit of over shift caused by this is moderated in movement of the chain by that rear derailleur's bit of slop in that upper pulley. Suntour pulleys don't have that play, their indexing shifters took up some slack before reaching the index detent. After you snapped through the detent, you would go into the free movement prior to the next detent until you took your hand off the lever relieving that bit of over shift, ending up dead-on the next cog. It would let the drivetrain start click-clicking if you moved the shifter through this without snapping through the detent. These proprietary index schemes dictate any intended side play of the top wheel. For friction shifting on 8-speed I find the crisp accuracy of no side play in the rear derailleur compliments friction shifting, although not Shimano bar ends in the friction mode; they seem to have less than smooth movement, almost like there are ripples in a plastic washer in it giving the sense of ghost indents. I've been using Suntour bar ends way beyond their intended service life via TLC. Once I get to 9-speeds, my friction shifting performance begins to fail the precision needed to line the chain and cog directly or quickly enough to get things trimmed and quiet, so the extra wiggle of those Shimano pulleys is helpful. Similar behavior of derailleur pulleys can be achieved on other brands by playing with the included washers of a replacement pulley wheel set, even putting side play into a Suntour to perform better in a Shimano shifter driver train. Despite the smaller jumps between cogs of the 9-speed, I found that I prefer operational rewards of an 8-speed friction drivetrain using a derailleur with no side play in the top pulley. I collected a drawer of old Suntour RDs and have a Mavic 840 for that attribute. I've not looked at modern Campagnolo or SRAM derailleurs for this attribute, they're just too pricey to use as a friction unit. I think an 8-speed Hilsen with Silver bar end shifters is an optimal combination, the Riv combo triple will give you a really useful bike to ride in more places than you anticipate. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:30:01 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote: The derailer company designed the derailer to work properly with indexed shifting systems. That's what more than 90% of their customers use...so no mystery there. Wobbly upper pulleys work best with indexed shifters. It is only the small, deeply disturbed minority using friction shifters who desire an upper pulley that doesn't wobble. I prefer a manual transmission car also. But I recognize that I'm in the minority there as well. If you want to be a retrogrouch, you have to accept that your path will be a lonely one. But it can be a happy and rewarding path. Doug Williams On Thursday, December 11, 2014 4:22:18 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote: Bizarre that a derailer company would design the pulleys that don't function optimally in their original orientation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OT: best Mac for sophisticated Word Processing, for the $?
i5 Mac Mini's are quite affordable on the used market, can use up to 16gb of RAM. If you like, you can build one to your specifications -- a Hackintosh like the CustoMac Mini is the ticket ... http://www.tonymacx86.com/building-customac-buyers-guide-november-2014.html On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:05:25 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: My 17 MacBook Pro is getting on for 5 years old. It's a trooper but I am wondering about eventual replacement once this one reaches the point where it can't work well with the latest Word or Mac OS and ditto Illustrator. I am pretty sure that, soon, I'll no longer need a portable computer for work, so a laptop won't be necessary. The principal considerations will be: 1. Can handle the latest Mac version of Word. (I would like to bury Word and piss on its grave, but my work requires Word and only Word. Open Office don't cut it.) 2. Can accept if it doesn't come stock with 4 GB of Ram. 3. Costs as little as possible. V I had a very satisfactory Mac Mini (Thanks, Ryan) but gave it away to a friend; it also was 2010. Is the Mini a good candidate? 4. Available used if possible. I think my optimum desideratum would be a used -- what, late model Mini? (Something stationary) with an iPad or clone to replace laptop and Fire. Whatch'all think? -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *[I]n exploring the physical universe man has made no attempt to explore himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing so.”* * -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots* *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money, these three; but the greatest of these is money. * * -- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ISO used, wind-blocking, UV blocking, decent quality cycling shades
I've spent my entire career at microscopes and have taken care of my eyes (don't understand people who don't use filters when looking through a microscope). I've always taken care of my eyes. I drive in Serengetis, fish in Smiths and Costas. I have no worries bicycling in Smiths. On Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:41:37 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote: Jim, I couldn't agree more. It is your EYES! Patrick, you already had cataract surgery so you know your eyes are vulnerable. Protect them! By-the-way, your replacement lens implants have UV protection built in. Your primary focus now should be wind, dust and general debris protection. But don't cheap out. Quality is always worth it in the long run. I opted for a pair of Maui Jim's. Not only do they protect they actually enhance vision. Mine cost a couple hundred bucks but they've held up to daily use for almost three years and they are still going strong. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Phase Two of an Atlantis build
Yeah, great idea for the cable routing, Bill. Looks clean, and stays out of your way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Friction shifting and pulleys again
All Shimano derailleurs I've used, back to pre-indexing slant parallelograms and up to recent LX models, will friction shift 8 cogs very well. (9, too.) It never even occurred to me to replace the jockey pulley. Try it first and see. One of my last commuting derailleur setups was a quasi halfstep 47/44 with a 7 speed cassette. The middle 5 were half stepped, the outer -- at 13 or a 12 -- was for downhills, and the inner was a 34, a big jump from the penultimate 24. This was a bailout. It shifted fine from the 24. Shimano 600 (I think; square design, slant para, looked like first Deore but no housing tension adjustment) pre-index long cage rd, Record dt shifters on those briefly sold but very nice that put the levers just inboard of the brake hoods. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Doug Williams salg...@minbaritm.com wrote: I’m looking at getting a Hilsen soon (probably 58cm 650b) and I want to go friction only shifting with Silver Shifter bar ends (probably on Albas). I decided on Riv’s Sugino 46-36-24 triple up front. From everything I have read, 8 speed is the way to go for friction, and 8 is enough for me. I’m not a racer so I don’t need to precisely match the cadence of the peloton. More important for me is to have a wide range of gears. So for the rear, I’m looking at the Shimano Acera HG41 8 Speed MTB Cassette, 11-13-15-17-20-23-26-34T. I like the 11T for fun downhill runs (I admit that I don’t really NEED it). The 34T is so I can get my old body up over the hill. I would only use it with the 24 up front for when I climb a really nasty hill. The 8 tooth jump between 26 and 34 probably makes the 34 less than desirable for normal use, but that’s fine as I’ll reserve the 34T for use only with the 24T front chainring as an “emergency wimp-out granny gear”. For the front derailer I’m looking at the Riv recommended Shimano Deore XT front derailer (FD-M781X6) – 17160 (Shimano's part number FD-M781X6 or M781AX6L or M781AX6S). For the rear, I’m planning on the Riv recommended Shimano Deore rear derailer – 17138, (RD M591 SGS). 1st Question: Are these the best derailer picks for my application, or should I look at something else? 2nd Question: I read that swapping the rear derailer pulleys is a good thing for friction shifting because the wobble designed into the top pulley (to make index shifting work) has a negative impact on friction shifting. But then…I would be putting a wobbly pulley in the lower position (when a non-wobbly pulley is called for). Should I just spring for another set of pulleys (about $10) so I could put “lower pulleys” in both positions? Would this avoid potential problems, or would I just be wasting money? Thanks, Doug Williams -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *[I]n exploring the physical universe man has made no attempt to explore himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing so.”* * -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots* *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money, these three; but the greatest of these is money. * * -- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW
[RBW] Re: Baltimore, MD to Scranton,PA ride planning...
I am not from the area but I vacation and ride in the Poconos every year, lots of hills and climbing between those locations, unless you follow the Susquehanna river most of the way. Good Luck Tom Dusky Huntington Woods, MI On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:55:56 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: You Rivfolks do some long distance rando riding, touring, campling, etc... What's the best way to plan a long ride like this from Baltimore, MD to Scranton, PA? Any east coasters know some bike friendly routes? I've only done a few centuriesin the last year and a half, so don't know if I would be able to handle a double century going to Scranton, as its 200 miles. Maybe layover at a motel one night and travel the rest the next day. Don't know how tough back to back centuries are for a commuter and recreational century and half century rider like me when I am in shape in the spring and summer and fall. Bike friendly routes would be the most important thing, I think. I know there is a MUP that runs from Baltimore to York, PA, so maybe that is a start. Don't know if I'd even dare to do this, but it would be fun and memorable. So I'm looking into it to see if it even seems realistic for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OT: best Mac for sophisticated Word Processing, for the $?
I have a 8g Ram 2013 MacMini hooked up to TV which accomplishes everything I need including photo editing (although I am a newbie to editing) btw I also have a iPad air which also works as a second screen for the mini if you want that capability, having said that I am considering selling both and getting a MacBook Pro or Air as I hardly use the iPad now that I have an IPhone 6plus which has replaced my iPad as my go to portable entertainment device. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ISO Bay Area frame builder
I had a frame built by John Fitzgerald last year and I am more than pleased with the ride and the workmanship. http://www.fitzcyclez.com/word.html mine is the orange 700c Rando on that page. I currently own an 64cm Atlantis (now for sale) a Riv custom Long Low and a '72 Paramount. The new Fitz is the only bike I want to ride. I highly recommend him. Good Luck with the build. Tom Dusky Huntington Woods, MI On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:25:20 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote: Well, my preferred route to a new custom touring frame fell through. Can any in SF Bay Area suggest great builders who do lugged steel frames? I'm tall enough that I don't fit most stock frames, and but also want to incorporate some specific design ideas that point to a custom. Things like Rohloff IGH with reinforced rear frame instead of bolt-on torque arm; also braze-on centerpulls, and internal wire routing for lighting. Nothing crazy... ;-) Thanks, - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Baltimore, MD to Scranton,PA ride planning...
This sounds like a fun ride, although it could get challenging when you get up north. The Heritage Rail Trail from Ashland to York is a nice and relatively easy ride. Once you get to York, you pick up one of the PA Bike Routes and go from there: http://www.bikepa.com/routes/index.htm These are basically recommended roads, which in parts I'm not sure I'd agree. Still, it's a place to start. On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:55:56 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: You Rivfolks do some long distance rando riding, touring, campling, etc... What's the best way to plan a long ride like this from Baltimore, MD to Scranton, PA? Any east coasters know some bike friendly routes? I've only done a few centuriesin the last year and a half, so don't know if I would be able to handle a double century going to Scranton, as its 200 miles. Maybe layover at a motel one night and travel the rest the next day. Don't know how tough back to back centuries are for a commuter and recreational century and half century rider like me when I am in shape in the spring and summer and fall. Bike friendly routes would be the most important thing, I think. I know there is a MUP that runs from Baltimore to York, PA, so maybe that is a start. Don't know if I'd even dare to do this, but it would be fun and memorable. So I'm looking into it to see if it even seems realistic for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Baltimore, MD to Scranton,PA ride planning...
Also, check these routes out: http://www.pahighways.com/other/bicyclepa.html On Friday, December 12, 2014 10:25:41 AM UTC-5, doc wrote: This sounds like a fun ride, although it could get challenging when you get up north. The Heritage Rail Trail from Ashland to York is a nice and relatively easy ride. Once you get to York, you pick up one of the PA Bike Routes and go from there: http://www.bikepa.com/routes/index.htm These are basically recommended roads, which in parts I'm not sure I'd agree. Still, it's a place to start. On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:55:56 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: You Rivfolks do some long distance rando riding, touring, campling, etc... What's the best way to plan a long ride like this from Baltimore, MD to Scranton, PA? Any east coasters know some bike friendly routes? I've only done a few centuriesin the last year and a half, so don't know if I would be able to handle a double century going to Scranton, as its 200 miles. Maybe layover at a motel one night and travel the rest the next day. Don't know how tough back to back centuries are for a commuter and recreational century and half century rider like me when I am in shape in the spring and summer and fall. Bike friendly routes would be the most important thing, I think. I know there is a MUP that runs from Baltimore to York, PA, so maybe that is a start. Don't know if I'd even dare to do this, but it would be fun and memorable. So I'm looking into it to see if it even seems realistic for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
Hi Doug, I have a similar set up to what you're building up: - 56cm AHH with Suntour friction down tube shifters (Noodle hbar) - Sugino triple and HG41 8 speed rear. - Shimano XT front and rear derailers (bit-o-bling, but works nicely) It works great. For the terrain I ride, the triple is overkill. I could do fine with 1X or compact double, if I want to pull my kids in the trailer. Maybe consider a compact double unless you have lots of hills or will be touring. (Shifting a triple isn't hard, but shifting a double is super easy.) Bottom line: don't over think it. 8- or 9-speed will work just fine. Swap pulleys if you're setting it up; don't worry about it if someone else is assembling. Enjoy the ride! It's a great bike. Shoji On Thursday, December 11, 2014 4:49:22 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote: I’m looking at getting a Hilsen soon (probably 58cm 650b) and I want to go friction only shifting with Silver Shifter bar ends (probably on Albas). I decided on Riv’s Sugino 46-36-24 triple up front. From everything I have read, 8 speed is the way to go for friction, and 8 is enough for me. I’m not a racer so I don’t need to precisely match the cadence of the peloton. More important for me is to have a wide range of gears. So for the rear, I’m looking at the Shimano Acera HG41 8 Speed MTB Cassette, 11-13-15-17-20-23-26-34T. I like the 11T for fun downhill runs (I admit that I don’t really NEED it). The 34T is so I can get my old body up over the hill. I would only use it with the 24 up front for when I climb a really nasty hill. The 8 tooth jump between 26 and 34 probably makes the 34 less than desirable for normal use, but that’s fine as I’ll reserve the 34T for use only with the 24T front chainring as an “emergency wimp-out granny gear”. For the front derailer I’m looking at the Riv recommended Shimano Deore XT front derailer (FD-M781X6) – 17160 (Shimano's part number FD-M781X6 or M781AX6L or M781AX6S). For the rear, I’m planning on the Riv recommended Shimano Deore rear derailer – 17138, (RD M591 SGS). 1st Question: Are these the best derailer picks for my application, or should I look at something else? 2nd Question: I read that swapping the rear derailer pulleys is a good thing for friction shifting because the wobble designed into the top pulley (to make index shifting work) has a negative impact on friction shifting. But then…I would be putting a wobbly pulley in the lower position (when a non-wobbly pulley is called for). Should I just spring for another set of pulleys (about $10) so I could put “lower pulleys” in both positions? Would this avoid potential problems, or would I just be wasting money? Thanks, Doug Williams -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Baltimore, MD to Scranton,PA ride planning...
It could take you a little longer, but if you want to get off the road for a bit, the Delaware Water Gap Recreational Area is nice. The Old Mine Road is on the NJ side of the Delaware River and the (recommended by me) McDade Rec.Trail on the PA side will take you north from the little township of Delaware Water Gap on I-80 to Milford, PA on I-84, east of Scranton. PA Route 6 east can be accessed there and I think it is a designated bike route. I'm from VA, so you'd need more onto on that. The hgwy is not west-coast standards for shoulders, but it could work. I'll bet Bobby Montclair in NJ could verify. There are a lot of rail trails, etc. on the NJ side of the river, but most likely just a bit too far east for you? Paul Germain, Midlothian, Va On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:55:56 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: You Rivfolks do some long distance rando riding, touring, campling, etc... What's the best way to plan a long ride like this from Baltimore, MD to Scranton, PA? Any east coasters know some bike friendly routes? I've only done a few centuriesin the last year and a half, so don't know if I would be able to handle a double century going to Scranton, as its 200 miles. Maybe layover at a motel one night and travel the rest the next day. Don't know how tough back to back centuries are for a commuter and recreational century and half century rider like me when I am in shape in the spring and summer and fall. Bike friendly routes would be the most important thing, I think. I know there is a MUP that runs from Baltimore to York, PA, so maybe that is a start. Don't know if I'd even dare to do this, but it would be fun and memorable. So I'm looking into it to see if it even seems realistic for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Baltimore, MD to Scranton,PA ride planning...
Oops. Here's a Delaware Water Gap / McDade Trail link that will get you started: http://www.nps.gov/dewa/planyourvisit/trail-maps-pa.htm Paul On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:55:56 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: You Rivfolks do some long distance rando riding, touring, campling, etc... What's the best way to plan a long ride like this from Baltimore, MD to Scranton, PA? Any east coasters know some bike friendly routes? I've only done a few centuriesin the last year and a half, so don't know if I would be able to handle a double century going to Scranton, as its 200 miles. Maybe layover at a motel one night and travel the rest the next day. Don't know how tough back to back centuries are for a commuter and recreational century and half century rider like me when I am in shape in the spring and summer and fall. Bike friendly routes would be the most important thing, I think. I know there is a MUP that runs from Baltimore to York, PA, so maybe that is a start. Don't know if I'd even dare to do this, but it would be fun and memorable. So I'm looking into it to see if it even seems realistic for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Longshot Want-To-Trade: My Paul Touring Cantilevers for your Shimano CX70s
Will the pads clear if you turn them around backwards, that is, so the long end is facing away from the fork blades? It okay to run pads like that if they aren't the cartridge style pads. That how I do it on my CX bike with Neo Retros. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Baltimore, MD to Scranton,PA ride planning...
Finally, here's a trip planning link for PA rte.6, east-west: http://www.paroute6.com Paul On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:55:56 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: You Rivfolks do some long distance rando riding, touring, campling, etc... What's the best way to plan a long ride like this from Baltimore, MD to Scranton, PA? Any east coasters know some bike friendly routes? I've only done a few centuriesin the last year and a half, so don't know if I would be able to handle a double century going to Scranton, as its 200 miles. Maybe layover at a motel one night and travel the rest the next day. Don't know how tough back to back centuries are for a commuter and recreational century and half century rider like me when I am in shape in the spring and summer and fall. Bike friendly routes would be the most important thing, I think. I know there is a MUP that runs from Baltimore to York, PA, so maybe that is a start. Don't know if I'd even dare to do this, but it would be fun and memorable. So I'm looking into it to see if it even seems realistic for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: ISO used, wind-blocking, UV blocking, decent quality cycling shades
Also, Maui Jim absolutely stands behind their products – my wife, who is very hard on sunglasses, has gotten at least three replacement pairs free from MJ in circumstances where the could certainly have raised a beef, but did not. Very good customer service, and very, very nice products. No financial or other interest of any kind in MJ. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:42 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: internet-...@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: ISO used, wind-blocking, UV blocking, decent quality cycling shades Jim, I couldn't agree more. It is your EYES! Patrick, you already had cataract surgery so you know your eyes are vulnerable. Protect them! By-the-way, your replacement lens implants have UV protection built in. Your primary focus now should be wind, dust and general debris protection. But don't cheap out. Quality is always worth it in the long run. I opted for a pair of Maui Jim's. Not only do they protect they actually enhance vision. Mine cost a couple hundred bucks but they've held up to daily use for almost three years and they are still going strong. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Bags, Shifters
HAR Bags in Olive - $110 shipped --I bought these a few months ago and have used them on about 3 rides. I'm switching over to Swift Industries Short Stack bags and have no need for these. They're in excellent shape. The only thing I did to them was cut both of the Irish straps a bit shorter which you can see in the pictures. I didn't like the extra strap dangling about. Suntour Accushift Barcons 7s - $40 shipped --Good shape, they work in both index and friction mode. I got these from a used bike shop but never ended up using them myself. Everything works on them as far as I can tell. Shimano 600 8-speed Downtube Shifters - $35 shipped --Good shape, I'm including both the flat and curved washers so that you can use them as either downtube or thumb shifters. If you have any questions please e-mail me, thanks! https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157649310161459/ Sorry for the awful photos! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ISO Bay Area frame builder
Thanks, all, for the recommendations, and for tolerating Yet Another Framebuilder thread. I've been in touch with Fitz, and things looks promising, as long as we can incorporate cast vertical dropouts. I'll report back with whatever the outcome is. - Andrew, Berkeley On Friday, December 12, 2014 7:18:36 AM UTC-8, tdusky wrote: I had a frame built by John Fitzgerald last year and I am more than pleased with the ride and the workmanship. http://www.fitzcyclez.com/word.html mine is the orange 700c Rando on that page. I currently own an 64cm Atlantis (now for sale) a Riv custom Long Low and a '72 Paramount. The new Fitz is the only bike I want to ride. I highly recommend him. Good Luck with the build. Tom Dusky Huntington Woods, MI On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:25:20 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote: Well, my preferred route to a new custom touring frame fell through. Can any in SF Bay Area suggest great builders who do lugged steel frames? I'm tall enough that I don't fit most stock frames, and but also want to incorporate some specific design ideas that point to a custom. Things like Rohloff IGH with reinforced rear frame instead of bolt-on torque arm; also braze-on centerpulls, and internal wire routing for lighting. Nothing crazy... ;-) Thanks, - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Longshot Want-To-Trade: My Paul Touring Cantilevers for your Shimano CX70s
Thanks Kevin. good idea but no, that doesn't work for me. You probably have an aluminum or carbon fork that has tall standoffs for the canti posts. Lucky you. On my fork(s) mountain cartridges hit a lot when run front ways, a little when run backwards, and a little with road cartridge pads. Furthermore, the rear pads in the normal direction are already flipped around so the long part is away from the stays, and they still hit. The workaround that is not uncommon is to get the non-cartridge internal frame pads like the KoolStop Thinlines and cut them off to clear. I've done that, and it just looks like such a janky workaround, that I'm now eager to try brakes that were built for the purpose of clearing the stays. Taller standoffs for the posts is in my opinion the optimum solution for this. Most carbon and some aluminum bikes have this feature, maybe by design. I've never seen a steel bike with deliberately elongated canti-posts to offer this benefit, but when I change careers and become a custom frame builder, I'm going to do it. (Dont hold your breath). On Friday, December 12, 2014 8:33:54 AM UTC-8, Kevin M wrote: Will the pads clear if you turn them around backwards, that is, so the long end is facing away from the fork blades? It okay to run pads like that if they aren't the cartridge style pads. That how I do it on my CX bike with Neo Retros. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The Canti Hilsen.
Still trying to pound a square peg into the round hole, I can't leave well enough alone. I sure hope this hits the spot. Being in between sizes stinks. The tire width / brake combo I want just doesnt exist in a size I'm comfortable on. So I decided to have cantis added to the Hilsen and try to ignore my fat tire craving of the Atlantis. My friend Josh from Avery Co. Cycles did a beautiful job with the brake bosses, and Spectrum Powderworks absolutely floored me with the paint. I'm very happy with the improved braking and feel of the cantis. Time will tell if my choice of this over an Atlantis will pan out. It's nice...so I'm goin riding. Maybe the only canti Hilsen: https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/15980402446/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Canti Hilsen.
That's fantastic. Is that a 700c 59cm Hilsen? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito CA On Friday, December 12, 2014 11:28:43 AM UTC-8, jinxed wrote: Still trying to pound a square peg into the round hole, I can't leave well enough alone. I sure hope this hits the spot. Being in between sizes stinks. The tire width / brake combo I want just doesnt exist in a size I'm comfortable on. So I decided to have cantis added to the Hilsen and try to ignore my fat tire craving of the Atlantis. My friend Josh from Avery Co. Cycles did a beautiful job with the brake bosses, and Spectrum Powderworks absolutely floored me with the paint. I'm very happy with the improved braking and feel of the cantis. Time will tell if my choice of this over an Atlantis will pan out. It's nice...so I'm goin riding. Maybe the only canti Hilsen: https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/15980402446/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Canti Hilsen.
700c 57cm. My first Hilsen was a 59 and was just too big. I was running a 60 stem and was still reaching. My sweet spot is 56cm, so even this is a little long. I'd love to try a 56 Atlantis with something like a big apple. On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:41:45 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: That's fantastic. Is that a 700c 59cm Hilsen? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Canti Hilsen.
Hey, since you pointed me at your flickr, tell me how I can buy a green ACW mug. More specifically, tell me how I can get my wife to buy me a green ACW mug for Christmas. I posted a flickr message to the same effect. On Friday, December 12, 2014 11:48:50 AM UTC-8, jinxed wrote: 700c 57cm. My first Hilsen was a 59 and was just too big. I was running a 60 stem and was still reaching. My sweet spot is 56cm, so even this is a little long. I'd love to try a 56 Atlantis with something like a big apple. On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:41:45 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: That's fantastic. Is that a 700c 59cm Hilsen? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
Well I do get hills where I live, and especially when I head north. My knees (and the rest of my body) are not getting any younger. So I like a full range of gears. I had decided to go with 8 gears for better friction shifting, and I think I should stick with that because most people report problems when friction shifting 9. But then I see the 9 speed Shimano HG61 with bh-group sprocket teeth combination: 12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Hey...remove the 12, replace it with an 11 (and an 11 lock ring) and you get 11-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Since the 11 would just be my whoo hoo downhill gear I wouldn't mind the 3 tooth jump going from 14 to 11 while going down hill. If I can't get up the next hill with a 24 in front and a 36 in the rear (17.3 gear inches with 650b)...well...let's not say it. The 9 speed 11-36 would be dreamy if it would friction shift well enough. On the other hand, I'm not sure that I could wrap 47 links of chain anyway. Hmmm...I guess I should stick with the 8 speed 11-13-15-17-20-23-26-34T. Doug Williams Spending WAY too much time with Sheldon's Gear Calculator On Friday, December 12, 2014 8:26:23 AM UTC-8, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Hi Doug, I have a similar set up to what you're building up: - 56cm AHH with Suntour friction down tube shifters (Noodle hbar) - Sugino triple and HG41 8 speed rear. - Shimano XT front and rear derailers (bit-o-bling, but works nicely) It works great. For the terrain I ride, the triple is overkill. I could do fine with 1X or compact double, if I want to pull my kids in the trailer. Maybe consider a compact double unless you have lots of hills or will be touring. (Shifting a triple isn't hard, but shifting a double is super easy.) Bottom line: don't over think it. 8- or 9-speed will work just fine. Swap pulleys if you're setting it up; don't worry about it if someone else is assembling. Enjoy the ride! It's a great bike. Shoji On Thursday, December 11, 2014 4:49:22 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote: I’m looking at getting a Hilsen soon (probably 58cm 650b) and I want to go friction only shifting with Silver Shifter bar ends (probably on Albas). I decided on Riv’s Sugino 46-36-24 triple up front. From everything I have read, 8 speed is the way to go for friction, and 8 is enough for me. I’m not a racer so I don’t need to precisely match the cadence of the peloton. More important for me is to have a wide range of gears. So for the rear, I’m looking at the Shimano Acera HG41 8 Speed MTB Cassette, 11-13-15-17-20-23-26-34T. I like the 11T for fun downhill runs (I admit that I don’t really NEED it). The 34T is so I can get my old body up over the hill. I would only use it with the 24 up front for when I climb a really nasty hill. The 8 tooth jump between 26 and 34 probably makes the 34 less than desirable for normal use, but that’s fine as I’ll reserve the 34T for use only with the 24T front chainring as an “emergency wimp-out granny gear”. For the front derailer I’m looking at the Riv recommended Shimano Deore XT front derailer (FD-M781X6) – 17160 (Shimano's part number FD-M781X6 or M781AX6L or M781AX6S). For the rear, I’m planning on the Riv recommended Shimano Deore rear derailer – 17138, (RD M591 SGS). 1st Question: Are these the best derailer picks for my application, or should I look at something else? 2nd Question: I read that swapping the rear derailer pulleys is a good thing for friction shifting because the wobble designed into the top pulley (to make index shifting work) has a negative impact on friction shifting. But then…I would be putting a wobbly pulley in the lower position (when a non-wobbly pulley is called for). Should I just spring for another set of pulleys (about $10) so I could put “lower pulleys” in both positions? Would this avoid potential problems, or would I just be wasting money? Thanks, Doug Williams -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
On 12/12/2014 03:57 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Well I do get hills where I live, and especially when I head north. My knees (and the rest of my body) are not getting any younger. So I like a full range of gears. I had decided to go with 8 gears for better friction shifting, and I think I should stick with that because most people report problems when friction shifting 9. But then I see the 9 speed Shimano HG61 with bh-group sprocket teeth combination: 12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Hey...remove the 12, replace it with an 11 (and an 11 lock ring) and you get 11-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Since the 11 would just be my whoo hoo downhill gear I wouldn't mind the 3 tooth jump going from 14 to 11 while going down hill. If I can't get up the next hill with a 24 in front and a 36 in the rear (17.3 gear inches with 650b)...well...let's not say it. My goodness. I see that cassette and I think how nice it would be to remove the 12 and replace it with a first position 13... 12's too high already, and what on earth would I do with an 11? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Super-fun Riv-Video and slick Saddlesack upgrade
I had never noticed this product before: Hook-Cord Kit http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hookcordkit.htm That's a slick upgrade for the Saddlesacks. And they have a great video showing how to use it. I'm going to buy that sheetmusic, too. There are a couple glitches in the video editing where they forget to mute the background noise, so don't turn it up crazy loud on headphones. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Super-fun Riv-Video and slick Saddlesack upgrade
New to me too. Probably also a good way to lash a rain jacket or other item you may want real quick on the ride outside the pack. On Friday, December 12, 2014 3:14:55 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: I had never noticed this product before: Hook-Cord Kit http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hookcordkit.htm That's a slick upgrade for the Saddlesacks. And they have a great video showing how to use it. I'm going to buy that sheetmusic, too. There are a couple glitches in the video editing where they forget to mute the background noise, so don't turn it up crazy loud on headphones. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
Steve, I suppose you could do that, but then 13 and 14 are awfully close together. I couldn't even tell the difference as I lack your finesse. :-) In any event, if you are going to replace a sprocket, the 12 is the only free one (not already attached to a group). So the 12 is the easy one to swap. Yes, I admit that the 11 is only a downhill toy and otherwise useless. But toys are toys and since I haven't grown up by now, it is a sure bet that I'm not going to. Fortunately, I'm too weak to spin the 11 fast enough to reach a dangerous speed anyway. Only gravity can do that for me now. The 11 fills a niche to boost me a little faster on a very mild hill before I stop spinning and start braking on a bigger hill. :-) Doug -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 1:08 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again On 12/12/2014 03:57 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Well I do get hills where I live, and especially when I head north. My knees (and the rest of my body) are not getting any younger. So I like a full range of gears. I had decided to go with 8 gears for better friction shifting, and I think I should stick with that because most people report problems when friction shifting 9. But then I see the 9 speed Shimano HG61 with bh-group sprocket teeth combination: 12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Hey...remove the 12, replace it with an 11 (and an 11 lock ring) and you get 11-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Since the 11 would just be my whoo hoo downhill gear I wouldn't mind the 3 tooth jump going from 14 to 11 while going down hill. If I can't get up the next hill with a 24 in front and a 36 in the rear (17.3 gear inches with 650b)...well...let's not say it. My goodness. I see that cassette and I think how nice it would be to remove the 12 and replace it with a first position 13... 12's too high already, and what on earth would I do with an 11? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/odl1v4BCeac/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Canti Hilsen.
I like it! It looks like a cyclocross bike now. On Friday, December 12, 2014 1:28:43 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote: Still trying to pound a square peg into the round hole, I can't leave well enough alone. I sure hope this hits the spot. Being in between sizes stinks. The tire width / brake combo I want just doesnt exist in a size I'm comfortable on. So I decided to have cantis added to the Hilsen and try to ignore my fat tire craving of the Atlantis. My friend Josh from Avery Co. Cycles did a beautiful job with the brake bosses, and Spectrum Powderworks absolutely floored me with the paint. I'm very happy with the improved braking and feel of the cantis. Time will tell if my choice of this over an Atlantis will pan out. It's nice...so I'm goin riding. Maybe the only canti Hilsen: https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/15980402446/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
It's true that if you max out at 100rpm for example, that your 46x12 has a max pedalling speed of about 30mph, but your 46x11 will allow you to pedal up to about 32mph. On Friday, December 12, 2014 1:38:48 PM UTC-8, Doug Williams wrote: Steve, I suppose you could do that, but then 13 and 14 are awfully close together. I couldn't even tell the difference as I lack your finesse. :-) In any event, if you are going to replace a sprocket, the 12 is the only free one (not already attached to a group). So the 12 is the easy one to swap. Yes, I admit that the 11 is only a downhill toy and otherwise useless. But toys are toys and since I haven't grown up by now, it is a sure bet that I'm not going to. Fortunately, I'm too weak to spin the 11 fast enough to reach a dangerous speed anyway. Only gravity can do that for me now. The 11 fills a niche to boost me a little faster on a very mild hill before I stop spinning and start braking on a bigger hill. :-) Doug -Original Message- From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 1:08 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again On 12/12/2014 03:57 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Well I do get hills where I live, and especially when I head north. My knees (and the rest of my body) are not getting any younger. So I like a full range of gears. I had decided to go with 8 gears for better friction shifting, and I think I should stick with that because most people report problems when friction shifting 9. But then I see the 9 speed Shimano HG61 with bh-group sprocket teeth combination: 12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Hey...remove the 12, replace it with an 11 (and an 11 lock ring) and you get 11-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Since the 11 would just be my whoo hoo downhill gear I wouldn't mind the 3 tooth jump going from 14 to 11 while going down hill. If I can't get up the next hill with a 24 in front and a 36 in the rear (17.3 gear inches with 650b)...well...let's not say it. My goodness. I see that cassette and I think how nice it would be to remove the 12 and replace it with a first position 13... 12's too high already, and what on earth would I do with an 11? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/odl1v4BCeac/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
At 30+ mph, I just tuck and enjoy the ride! Of course on mountain passes that are miles long, those middling speeds are what you get in the flats while you coast as long as you can. Grin. Doug, I nearly lost my mind on Sheldon's gear calculator figuring out how to gear my Quickbeam. Playing with 2x8 or 3x8 is cake! If you want to go 9 speed, I think you'll be just fine. But learning to stand and pedal is a good thing too, and builds those knees so they work better longer. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, December 12, 2014 2:51:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: It's true that if you max out at 100rpm for example, that your 46x12 has a max pedalling speed of about 30mph, but your 46x11 will allow you to pedal up to about 32mph. On Friday, December 12, 2014 1:38:48 PM UTC-8, Doug Williams wrote: Steve, I suppose you could do that, but then 13 and 14 are awfully close together. I couldn't even tell the difference as I lack your finesse. :-) In any event, if you are going to replace a sprocket, the 12 is the only free one (not already attached to a group). So the 12 is the easy one to swap. Yes, I admit that the 11 is only a downhill toy and otherwise useless. But toys are toys and since I haven't grown up by now, it is a sure bet that I'm not going to. Fortunately, I'm too weak to spin the 11 fast enough to reach a dangerous speed anyway. Only gravity can do that for me now. The 11 fills a niche to boost me a little faster on a very mild hill before I stop spinning and start braking on a bigger hill. :-) Doug -Original Message- From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 1:08 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again On 12/12/2014 03:57 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Well I do get hills where I live, and especially when I head north. My knees (and the rest of my body) are not getting any younger. So I like a full range of gears. I had decided to go with 8 gears for better friction shifting, and I think I should stick with that because most people report problems when friction shifting 9. But then I see the 9 speed Shimano HG61 with bh-group sprocket teeth combination: 12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Hey...remove the 12, replace it with an 11 (and an 11 lock ring) and you get 11-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36T. Since the 11 would just be my whoo hoo downhill gear I wouldn't mind the 3 tooth jump going from 14 to 11 while going down hill. If I can't get up the next hill with a 24 in front and a 36 in the rear (17.3 gear inches with 650b)...well...let's not say it. My goodness. I see that cassette and I think how nice it would be to remove the 12 and replace it with a first position 13... 12's too high already, and what on earth would I do with an 11? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/odl1v4BCeac/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Canti Hilsen.
Funny enough I'm doing the same thing with my 57cm Hilsen On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:48 AM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: 700c 57cm. My first Hilsen was a 59 and was just too big. I was running a 60 stem and was still reaching. My sweet spot is 56cm, so even this is a little long. I'd love to try a 56 Atlantis with something like a big apple. On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:41:45 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: That's fantastic. Is that a 700c 59cm Hilsen? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
On 12/12/2014 04:38 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Steve, I suppose you could do that, but then 13 and 14 are awfully close together. I couldn't even tell the difference as I lack your finesse. :-) I have no difficulty at all telling the difference between 13-14-15, the three 1-tooth gaps on my 9 speed cassettes. I don't think finesse has anything to do with it, but running at a typical 90 rpm or so cadence might do. Also, riding in rolling countryside with many short dips and rises but virtually nothing even approaching a half-mile long descent does too. In any event, if you are going to replace a sprocket, the 12 is the only free one (not already attached to a group). So the 12 is the easy one to swap. It is possible to remove the rivets or bolts or whatever that attach sprockets together, albeit with some difficulty. I haven't seen one of those 12-36 cassettes, so I don't have any idea how it's made; the 12-27s that form the basis for the custom 9s 13-30s I use have a couple of attached groups but also several loose sprockets. Yes, I admit that the 11 is only a downhill toy and otherwise useless. For me, worse than a toy: a spacer with teeth, and not useful for what passes for downhills where I ride. By the time I've got a 48x13 (i.e., 97-100 inches) spun up to around 120 rpm and I'm doing 34 or 35 mph, in the terrain where I ride I'll have run out of descent and it's time to brace for the bridge and the expansion joints and approach the climb out of the stream gully and back to the level. 100 inches spun right up is very useful for that: lots of rpm to work with as you work your way down through the gears. Approach a descent like that in too big a gear and you'll have nothing at all to spend before it's time to start downshifting, and at very low rpms those downshifts are slower and more difficult than they need to be. But toys are toys and since I haven't grown up by now, it is a sure bet that I'm not going to. So you are saying a 125 gear is fun somehow. This I do not get. Where is the fun in a lumbering slow cadence? That doesn't feel fast to me. Fortunately, I'm too weak to spin the 11 fast enough to reach a dangerous speed anyway. Only gravity can do that for me now. Ah, Gravity: the Goddess I worship every time I go riding. I have what is known as a Special Relationship with Gravity, and there are few who descend as quickly or get up to speed with the rapidity of a safe being pushed off the top of the Chrysler Building as do I. As for reaching dangerous speeds, every few years Bike Virginia has taken me into mountainous terrain in the Appalachians. I've learned that as soon as I begin to descend, my mental juke box starts playing the opening bars of The Wreck of Old 97... The 11 fills a niche to boost me a little faster on a very mild hill before I stop spinning and start braking on a bigger hill. :-) I'm surprised you can tolerate the enormous gap between the 11 and the 14. That's got to be around a 30 inch gap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Selle Anatomica big sale (previously Struggling with my B-17's)
When asked for my opinion on saddles, I always give the same answer: Brooks...period. Then just yesterday I was looking for a particular color and style (that I wasn't so sure I could find in a Brooks), and stumbled on the SA web site, where they're offering big discounts (at least for 1 more day) on their saddles, for just $99. I figured I'd like to give them a try, especially since I recently rode an old Avocet saddle on a long ride and it actually felt good (compared to my Brooks Conquest and Flyer, both too new and still breaking ME in...). This made me wonder, perhaps I need to expand my thinking a bit on saddles. So I ordered 2 - the X and NSX, both rated to handle my Clydesdale-ness. Based on many testimonials I understand the X (in particular) should sag and may require constant adjustment for a period of time, but eventually it's supposed to stop sagging... we'll see. Admittedly I bought these saddles to achieve a particular look on 2 special project bikes (a 1983 Specialized Expedition touring bike and a 1980 Raleigh Competition). I will be sure to weigh in with an opinion after a few rides on the SA saddles. If you're considering the SA, hurry and check out the site ASAP... I think the sale ends today... Peace, BB On Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:08:38 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote: I have finished my third ride on my Selle Anatomica X. I have had to tighten the tensioner after each ride. But, I love this saddle. I have my bars in a better position without all the crotch discomfort. On my Roadeo, I will have to use their older long rail saddle and hopefully the rails won't bend( I weigh about 170). I am going to buy another newer saddle for my IF bike. I will use my old Titanio with the long rails on my Roadeo. Don On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:45:09 PM UTC-8, Don Compton wrote: I have been having the usual saddle problems with my B-17's. After longterm breakin, the hump makes long rides impossible for me. I finally found a solution, the Selle Anatomica. It just works for me. At 2 weeks from 63yo, I just can't stand any saddle discomfort anymore. The Anatomica has solved the problem. I sold all my Brooks and will never look back. Don Compton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
Just to toss more grit into the gears, Miche makes Shimano-compatible outers (perhaps Campy ones too) up to 16. I run a 16-26 9 speed on my ram (with compact 52/38 rings) (very nicely shifted with Silver dt levers pulling a 7400 DA rd. I've several times crammed a non-outer-position-specific 14 or 15 onto the last mm of splines of a 8+ speed freehub body. The jump between a 13 and a 14 with a 46 outer is about 8 gear inches; plenty big enough for many to discern. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Doug Williams salguod3791willi...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, I suppose you could do that, but then 13 and 14 are awfully close together. I couldn't even tell the difference as I lack your finesse. :-) In any event, if you are going to replace a sprocket, the 12 is the only free one (not already attached to a group). So the 12 is the easy one to swap. Yes, I admit that the 11 is only a downhill toy and otherwise useless. But toys are toys and since I haven't grown up by now, it is a sure bet that I'm not going to. Fortunately, I'm too weak to spin the 11 fast enough to reach a dangerous speed anyway. Only gravity can do that for me now. The 11 fills a niche to boost me a little faster on a very mild hill before I stop spinning and start braking on a bigger hill. :-) Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
Steve, Maybe I'm reading Sheldon's Gear Calculator incorrectly, but I get 108.7 gear inches with 46x11 and 650b wheels. So yes...a little high, but not anything close to 125 (which I admit would be silly). Also, the 14 gives me 85.4 gear inches, so the gap between 11 and 14 would be 23.3 gear inches, not 30. Maybe tough on level ground, but an easy shift when you are already going downhill. Again, the 11 is just a fun downhill gear for me and I'm going to shift back out of it well before the next hill. In any event, you like close gears for a precise cadence and I like wide ranging gears to handle whatever comes my way. To each his own. I usually ride solo, and even in a group I'm not trying to hang on anybody's wheel. I have no need for a precise cadence. I usually spin about 90 and sometimes over 100. But I almost never spin 120. At 100 rpm, the 11T gives me 32.3 MPH. Plenty fast enough, but not death defying. The Bike Snob defines Fred Whoo Hoo Speed as 46 MPH. No chance of me spinning ANY gear anywhere near that fast. :-) Even without spinning, I wouldn't allow myself to coast that fast. I would definitely be on brakes well before Fred Whoo Hoo Speed. Doug On Friday, December 12, 2014 3:08:35 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 12/12/2014 04:38 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Steve, I suppose you could do that, but then 13 and 14 are awfully close together. I couldn't even tell the difference as I lack your finesse. :-) I have no difficulty at all telling the difference between 13-14-15, the three 1-tooth gaps on my 9 speed cassettes. I don't think finesse has anything to do with it, but running at a typical 90 rpm or so cadence might do. Also, riding in rolling countryside with many short dips and rises but virtually nothing even approaching a half-mile long descent does too. In any event, if you are going to replace a sprocket, the 12 is the only free one (not already attached to a group). So the 12 is the easy one to swap. It is possible to remove the rivets or bolts or whatever that attach sprockets together, albeit with some difficulty. I haven't seen one of those 12-36 cassettes, so I don't have any idea how it's made; the 12-27s that form the basis for the custom 9s 13-30s I use have a couple of attached groups but also several loose sprockets. Yes, I admit that the 11 is only a downhill toy and otherwise useless. For me, worse than a toy: a spacer with teeth, and not useful for what passes for downhills where I ride. By the time I've got a 48x13 (i.e., 97-100 inches) spun up to around 120 rpm and I'm doing 34 or 35 mph, in the terrain where I ride I'll have run out of descent and it's time to brace for the bridge and the expansion joints and approach the climb out of the stream gully and back to the level. 100 inches spun right up is very useful for that: lots of rpm to work with as you work your way down through the gears. Approach a descent like that in too big a gear and you'll have nothing at all to spend before it's time to start downshifting, and at very low rpms those downshifts are slower and more difficult than they need to be. But toys are toys and since I haven't grown up by now, it is a sure bet that I'm not going to. So you are saying a 125 gear is fun somehow. This I do not get. Where is the fun in a lumbering slow cadence? That doesn't feel fast to me. Fortunately, I'm too weak to spin the 11 fast enough to reach a dangerous speed anyway. Only gravity can do that for me now. Ah, Gravity: the Goddess I worship every time I go riding. I have what is known as a Special Relationship with Gravity, and there are few who descend as quickly or get up to speed with the rapidity of a safe being pushed off the top of the Chrysler Building as do I. As for reaching dangerous speeds, every few years Bike Virginia has taken me into mountainous terrain in the Appalachians. I've learned that as soon as I begin to descend, my mental juke box starts playing the opening bars of The Wreck of Old 97... The 11 fills a niche to boost me a little faster on a very mild hill before I stop spinning and start braking on a bigger hill. :-) I'm surprised you can tolerate the enormous gap between the 11 and the 14. That's got to be around a 30 inch gap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Bags, Shifters
HAR bags have been sold. On Friday, December 12, 2014 9:19:14 AM UTC-8, Michael Ullmer wrote: HAR Bags in Olive - $110 shipped --I bought these a few months ago and have used them on about 3 rides. I'm switching over to Swift Industries Short Stack bags and have no need for these. They're in excellent shape. The only thing I did to them was cut both of the Irish straps a bit shorter which you can see in the pictures. I didn't like the extra strap dangling about. Suntour Accushift Barcons 7s - $40 shipped --Good shape, they work in both index and friction mode. I got these from a used bike shop but never ended up using them myself. Everything works on them as far as I can tell. Shimano 600 8-speed Downtube Shifters - $35 shipped --Good shape, I'm including both the flat and curved washers so that you can use them as either downtube or thumb shifters. If you have any questions please e-mail me, thanks! https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157649310161459/ Sorry for the awful photos! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
Gearing is almost as fun to calculate and talk about as to ride. The jump between an 11 and a 14 (46 t ring -- I assume few on this list are using 53s with any normal cassette) is 24. PDB. EDB would be the 28 between them using the 53. I love gear fiddling. Even though I ride mostly fixed on road, and love it best, and even though, when I ride multiple gear coasters, I use mostly the 70 and the 65 on road, the 64 and the 61 on our flat but sandy bosque dirt (yes I can tell the 3.5 difference between my 17 and 18; the 61 is very nice for a slightly lower dirt road gear when the sand is slightly heavier) -- even given this, I know every single cog's gear inch equivalent on all of my bikes. Even for hub geared bikes. For almost 3 decades I've made my own gear charts, manually at first, though now Excel makes it easier -- in almost 30 years of fretting about gears I've rarely used a stock gearing combo. My own penchant is for close ratios between (road) 60 and 75in rolling terrain ABQ and adjacent Rio Rancho, NM), with the rest just gravy -- my outer cogs frankly act as much as spacers, to get the cruising gears in the middle, as they do for higher ratios. When you ride fixed so much, even simple coasting is so much faster downhill. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 12/12/2014 04:38 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Steve, I suppose you could do that, but then 13 and 14 are awfully close together. I couldn't even tell the difference as I lack your finesse. :-) I have no difficulty at all telling the difference between 13-14-15, the three 1-tooth gaps on my 9 speed cassettes. I don't think finesse has anything to do with it, but running at a typical 90 rpm or so cadence might do. Also, riding in rolling countryside with many short dips and rises but virtually nothing even approaching a half-mile long descent does too. In any event, if you are going to replace a sprocket, the 12 is the only free one (not already attached to a group). So the 12 is the easy one to swap. It is possible to remove the rivets or bolts or whatever that attach sprockets together, albeit with some difficulty. I haven't seen one of those 12-36 cassettes, so I don't have any idea how it's made; the 12-27s that form the basis for the custom 9s 13-30s I use have a couple of attached groups but also several loose sprockets. Yes, I admit that the 11 is only a downhill toy and otherwise useless. For me, worse than a toy: a spacer with teeth, and not useful for what passes for downhills where I ride. By the time I've got a 48x13 (i.e., 97-100 inches) spun up to around 120 rpm and I'm doing 34 or 35 mph, in the terrain where I ride I'll have run out of descent and it's time to brace for the bridge and the expansion joints and approach the climb out of the stream gully and back to the level. 100 inches spun right up is very useful for that: lots of rpm to work with as you work your way down through the gears. Approach a descent like that in too big a gear and you'll have nothing at all to spend before it's time to start downshifting, and at very low rpms those downshifts are slower and more difficult than they need to be. But toys are toys and since I haven't grown up by now, it is a sure bet that I'm not going to. So you are saying a 125 gear is fun somehow. This I do not get. Where is the fun in a lumbering slow cadence? That doesn't feel fast to me. Fortunately, I'm too weak to spin the 11 fast enough to reach a dangerous speed anyway. Only gravity can do that for me now. Ah, Gravity: the Goddess I worship every time I go riding. I have what is known as a Special Relationship with Gravity, and there are few who descend as quickly or get up to speed with the rapidity of a safe being pushed off the top of the Chrysler Building as do I. As for reaching dangerous speeds, every few years Bike Virginia has taken me into mountainous terrain in the Appalachians. I've learned that as soon as I begin to descend, my mental juke box starts playing the opening bars of The Wreck of Old 97... The 11 fills a niche to boost me a little faster on a very mild hill before I stop spinning and start braking on a bigger hill. :-) I'm surprised you can tolerate the enormous gap between the 11 and the 14. That's got to be around a 30 inch gap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again
I meant to specify a nominally 27 700C wheel. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Gearing is almost as fun to calculate and talk about as to ride. The jump between an 11 and a 14 (46 t ring -- I assume few on this list are using 53s with any normal cassette) is 24. PDB. EDB would be the 28 between them using the 53. I love gear fiddling. Even though I ride mostly fixed on road, and love it best, and even though, when I ride multiple gear coasters, I use mostly the 70 and the 65 on road, the 64 and the 61 on our flat but sandy bosque dirt (yes I can tell the 3.5 difference between my 17 and 18; the 61 is very nice for a slightly lower dirt road gear when the sand is slightly heavier) -- even given this, I know every single cog's gear inch equivalent on all of my bikes. Even for hub geared bikes. For almost 3 decades I've made my own gear charts, manually at first, though now Excel makes it easier -- in almost 30 years of fretting about gears I've rarely used a stock gearing combo. My own penchant is for close ratios between (road) 60 and 75in rolling terrain ABQ and adjacent Rio Rancho, NM), with the rest just gravy -- my outer cogs frankly act as much as spacers, to get the cruising gears in the middle, as they do for higher ratios. When you ride fixed so much, even simple coasting is so much faster downhill. On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 12/12/2014 04:38 PM, Doug Williams wrote: Steve, I suppose you could do that, but then 13 and 14 are awfully close together. I couldn't even tell the difference as I lack your finesse. :-) I have no difficulty at all telling the difference between 13-14-15, the three 1-tooth gaps on my 9 speed cassettes. I don't think finesse has anything to do with it, but running at a typical 90 rpm or so cadence might do. Also, riding in rolling countryside with many short dips and rises but virtually nothing even approaching a half-mile long descent does too. In any event, if you are going to replace a sprocket, the 12 is the only free one (not already attached to a group). So the 12 is the easy one to swap. It is possible to remove the rivets or bolts or whatever that attach sprockets together, albeit with some difficulty. I haven't seen one of those 12-36 cassettes, so I don't have any idea how it's made; the 12-27s that form the basis for the custom 9s 13-30s I use have a couple of attached groups but also several loose sprockets. Yes, I admit that the 11 is only a downhill toy and otherwise useless. For me, worse than a toy: a spacer with teeth, and not useful for what passes for downhills where I ride. By the time I've got a 48x13 (i.e., 97-100 inches) spun up to around 120 rpm and I'm doing 34 or 35 mph, in the terrain where I ride I'll have run out of descent and it's time to brace for the bridge and the expansion joints and approach the climb out of the stream gully and back to the level. 100 inches spun right up is very useful for that: lots of rpm to work with as you work your way down through the gears. Approach a descent like that in too big a gear and you'll have nothing at all to spend before it's time to start downshifting, and at very low rpms those downshifts are slower and more difficult than they need to be. But toys are toys and since I haven't grown up by now, it is a sure bet that I'm not going to. So you are saying a 125 gear is fun somehow. This I do not get. Where is the fun in a lumbering slow cadence? That doesn't feel fast to me. Fortunately, I'm too weak to spin the 11 fast enough to reach a dangerous speed anyway. Only gravity can do that for me now. Ah, Gravity: the Goddess I worship every time I go riding. I have what is known as a Special Relationship with Gravity, and there are few who descend as quickly or get up to speed with the rapidity of a safe being pushed off the top of the Chrysler Building as do I. As for reaching dangerous speeds, every few years Bike Virginia has taken me into mountainous terrain in the Appalachians. I've learned that as soon as I begin to descend, my mental juke box starts playing the opening bars of The Wreck of Old 97... The 11 fills a niche to boost me a little faster on a very mild hill before I stop spinning and start braking on a bigger hill. :-) I'm surprised you can tolerate the enormous gap between the 11 and the 14. That's got to be around a 30 inch gap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn
[RBW] New Cheviot
My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k4qd53iE85s/VIuVx3NKPlI/AOE/nDEePkttHKk/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1608.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mVMkj2JjiM8/VIuV1HJQyvI/AOM/YXRaWUPX03c/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1614.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FNVHczYl7WU/VIuV5P_80eI/AOU/EGBb89BJ3-A/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1619.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ezmaQIkeaKI/VIuV8zC9IQI/AOc/iuVU0kfIrRE/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1620.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WXvW45uwk18/VIuWADyVV3I/AOk/wqpmMZsJmew/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1621.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m5pSv2neeCY/VIuWDkhe7aI/AOs/4dNZOA8MGFc/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1623.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mj3yPTGctPw/VIuVsO_YSQI/AN8/YWH8KbwWCpQ/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1602.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F8gUXYXlIqk/VIuVnVcZQ-I/AN0/8zD0Zn1B0PA/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1597.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] New Cheviot
One good lookin' bike, Kellie! Did you paint those lug windows or is it like that straight outta' Walnut Creek? On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k4qd53iE85s/VIuVx3NKPlI/AOE/nDEePkttHKk/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1608.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mVMkj2JjiM8/VIuV1HJQyvI/AOM/YXRaWUPX03c/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1614.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FNVHczYl7WU/VIuV5P_80eI/AOU/EGBb89BJ3-A/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1619.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ezmaQIkeaKI/VIuV8zC9IQI/AOc/iuVU0kfIrRE/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1620.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WXvW45uwk18/VIuWADyVV3I/AOk/wqpmMZsJmew/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1621.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m5pSv2neeCY/VIuWDkhe7aI/AOs/4dNZOA8MGFc/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1623.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mj3yPTGctPw/VIuVsO_YSQI/AN8/YWH8KbwWCpQ/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1602.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F8gUXYXlIqk/VIuVnVcZQ-I/AN0/8zD0Zn1B0PA/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1597.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] New Cheviot
Nope, comes that way. On Dec 12, 2014, at 5:32 PM, cyclotourist wrote: One good lookin' bike, Kellie! Did you paint those lug windows or is it like that straight outta' Walnut Creek? On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/zi9wkENrNyw/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] New Cheviot
Have to like that! On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, comes that way. On Dec 12, 2014, at 5:32 PM, cyclotourist wrote: One good lookin' bike, Kellie! Did you paint those lug windows or is it like that straight outta' Walnut Creek? On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k4qd53iE85s/VIuVx3NKPlI/AOE/nDEePkttHKk/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1608.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mVMkj2JjiM8/VIuV1HJQyvI/AOM/YXRaWUPX03c/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1614.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FNVHczYl7WU/VIuV5P_80eI/AOU/EGBb89BJ3-A/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1619.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ezmaQIkeaKI/VIuV8zC9IQI/AOc/iuVU0kfIrRE/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1620.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WXvW45uwk18/VIuWADyVV3I/AOk/wqpmMZsJmew/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1621.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m5pSv2neeCY/VIuWDkhe7aI/AOs/4dNZOA8MGFc/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1623.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mj3yPTGctPw/VIuVsO_YSQI/AN8/YWH8KbwWCpQ/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1602.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F8gUXYXlIqk/VIuVnVcZQ-I/AN0/8zD0Zn1B0PA/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1597.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/zi9wkENrNyw/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Cheviot
Wow. Stunning! Beautiful build, and I love those Paul brakes. I love that color. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Canti Hilsen.
great choice of color Brad! wow. Josh is a great guy. I talked to him about brazing some useful bits onto my Bleriot a couple of summers ago, but decided to sleep on it. I hope to get him to add them when we move back to CO this summer. hope you enjoy the ahh2.0 -Jay B. On Friday, December 12, 2014 1:28:43 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote: Still trying to pound a square peg into the round hole, I can't leave well enough alone. I sure hope this hits the spot. Being in between sizes stinks. The tire width / brake combo I want just doesnt exist in a size I'm comfortable on. So I decided to have cantis added to the Hilsen and try to ignore my fat tire craving of the Atlantis. My friend Josh from Avery Co. Cycles did a beautiful job with the brake bosses, and Spectrum Powderworks absolutely floored me with the paint. I'm very happy with the improved braking and feel of the cantis. Time will tell if my choice of this over an Atlantis will pan out. It's nice...so I'm goin riding. Maybe the only canti Hilsen: https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/15980402446/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Cheviot
Thanks Patrick. I gave my Hillborne to my daughter; she got the Rivendell bug. But she deserves a great bike; she rode from Santa Cruz to New Orleans last Jan. I suspect she's got some more trips up her sleeve! But I love the Cheviot (especially this color). It feels a little zippier than the Hilborne. Maybe my imagination. On Dec 12, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Wow. Stunning! Beautiful build, and I love those Paul brakes. I love that color. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/zi9wkENrNyw/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Cheviot
So nice. How about a full-body shot? I especially like your reflection in the new bell. On Friday, December 12, 2014 5:29:08 PM UTC-8, Kellie Stapleton wrote: My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k4qd53iE85s/VIuVx3NKPlI/AOE/nDEePkttHKk/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1608.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mVMkj2JjiM8/VIuV1HJQyvI/AOM/YXRaWUPX03c/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1614.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FNVHczYl7WU/VIuV5P_80eI/AOU/EGBb89BJ3-A/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1619.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ezmaQIkeaKI/VIuV8zC9IQI/AOc/iuVU0kfIrRE/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1620.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WXvW45uwk18/VIuWADyVV3I/AOk/wqpmMZsJmew/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1621.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m5pSv2neeCY/VIuWDkhe7aI/AOs/4dNZOA8MGFc/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1623.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mj3yPTGctPw/VIuVsO_YSQI/AN8/YWH8KbwWCpQ/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1602.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F8gUXYXlIqk/VIuVnVcZQ-I/AN0/8zD0Zn1B0PA/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1597.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Canti Hilsen.
Thanks Jay. Yea, Josh is making some really incredible bikes. I'm thankful he was available to do it, and was instrumental in my decision to go forward with it. THIS was my inspiration for the color. Hard to go wrong with Porsche 365 Speedster Aquamarine. http://ekhatch.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/356-outlaw.jpeg I like the two tone jobs on some bikes, but this sure came out sexy and understated. On Friday, December 12, 2014 6:47:54 PM UTC-7, Jay B wrote: great choice of color Brad! wow. Josh is a great guy. I talked to him about brazing some useful bits onto my Bleriot a couple of summers ago, but decided to sleep on it. I hope to get him to add them when we move back to CO this summer. hope you enjoy the ahh2.0 -Jay B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Canti Hilsen.
For those of us considering a Hilsen, what's your PBH / actual height? Hi by the way. On Friday, December 12, 2014 8:48:50 PM UTC+1, jinxed wrote: 700c 57cm. My first Hilsen was a 59 and was just too big. I was running a 60 stem and was still reaching. My sweet spot is 56cm, so even this is a little long. I'd love to try a 56 Atlantis with something like a big apple. On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:41:45 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: That's fantastic. Is that a 700c 59cm Hilsen? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Longshot Want-To-Trade: My Paul Touring Cantilevers for your Shimano CX70s
Against my interest b/c I'd be interested in buying these if they are the high polish silvers (sent you a pm) but I've dealt with this exact issuing by simply flipping the thinline pads, so the short end is next to the fork/seatstays. Never had any noticeable difference in braking power. However I have heard from others that the braking power on the CX70's isn't as good as the Pauls. But can't verify that, never ridden the CX70's. On Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:31:05 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: I'd like to try out a set of cantilevers that were designed to clear the fork blades and seatstays completely when quick released open. The ones Rivendell sells are the Shimano CX70. I have a set of decidedly used silver Paul Touring Cantilevers to offer in trade, before I go hit the buy button. Let me know if you are looking to swap out and get more MUSA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Friction shifting and pulleys again
Hey Doug, I run the same cassette and crankset with an inexpensive SRAM 5 something on my 650b Rambouillet. The original 105 front derailer works great and I hardly use it. Rear shifting happens with a silver shifter on a Paul thumbie mounted on the handlebar. A silver shifter on the down tube takes care of the front. This setup works well for commuting and city riding. Jon in Philly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT: 700 x 50 Schwalbe Big Ben for 26 x 2.35 Big Bens
I have a brand new set of Schwalbe Cream Fat Franks (26 x 2.35) that I'd like to get rid of (too big for both of my 26 inchers), but I don't need your 700's. On Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:21:29 AM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: Just wondering if anyone would like to swap? My set has less than a mile on them. They were installed, ridden around the block and then removed when a bike was sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: VO Baguette handlebar bag, plus sleeping bag liner and handlebars
Hey all- I've got a few bike/camping things up for sale. Payment via PayPal. Contact me off-list if you want. - VO Baguette Bag: $25 shipped in the US - Cocoon Microfiber sleeping bag liner: $15 shipped in the US Buy both of the above for $35 shipped. Details here: http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2014/12/12/stuff-for-sale-update-handlebar-bag-and-bag-liner-still-available/ Also, for Portland pick-up only, a set of well-loved Civia Dupont handlebars for only $10. These aluminum bars are 600 mm wide with a 65 deg bend. Comparable to Nitto Albatross bars, but slightly wider than the Albas and feature a more straight-back hand grip position. 25.4 mm clamp, and diameter 22.2 mm so will take mountain bike brake levers and shifters. I've had these for two years and there's nothing wrong with them, but show scratches, and there's still some double-sided tape in the grip areas that I'm too lazy to strip the tape right now, but that's why I'm only charging $10. (These retail at $55, but it appears that Civia/QBP has discontinued this model.) See pics included. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nPQQ75-lPSA/VIu6834DzgI/AOs/Ba5dQEPdNME/s1600/civiadupont1.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cprHqIu0JOE/VIu7AlJrw3I/AO0/UUaaWreGX3w/s1600/civiadupont2.jpg thank you, Shawn -- http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/ http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ http://bikesspottedpdx.tumblr.com/ Un-electronic mail goes here: P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Cheviot
Full body shot on the way. You must have enlarged the photo and if you did you can see 1 bike hanging and 3 on the floor in the reflection. We like bikes! On Friday, December 12, 2014 6:43:04 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: So nice. How about a full-body shot? I especially like your reflection in the new bell. On Friday, December 12, 2014 5:29:08 PM UTC-8, Kellie Stapleton wrote: My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k4qd53iE85s/VIuVx3NKPlI/AOE/nDEePkttHKk/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1608.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mVMkj2JjiM8/VIuV1HJQyvI/AOM/YXRaWUPX03c/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1614.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FNVHczYl7WU/VIuV5P_80eI/AOU/EGBb89BJ3-A/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1619.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ezmaQIkeaKI/VIuV8zC9IQI/AOc/iuVU0kfIrRE/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1620.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WXvW45uwk18/VIuWADyVV3I/AOk/wqpmMZsJmew/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1621.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m5pSv2neeCY/VIuWDkhe7aI/AOs/4dNZOA8MGFc/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1623.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mj3yPTGctPw/VIuVsO_YSQI/AN8/YWH8KbwWCpQ/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1602.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F8gUXYXlIqk/VIuVnVcZQ-I/AN0/8zD0Zn1B0PA/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1597.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Cheviot
VERY NICE! *Chevi - Like a Riv...(Bob Seeger playing in the background...) * On Friday, December 12, 2014 8:29:08 PM UTC-5, Kellie Stapleton wrote: My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k4qd53iE85s/VIuVx3NKPlI/AOE/nDEePkttHKk/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1608.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mVMkj2JjiM8/VIuV1HJQyvI/AOM/YXRaWUPX03c/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1614.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FNVHczYl7WU/VIuV5P_80eI/AOU/EGBb89BJ3-A/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1619.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ezmaQIkeaKI/VIuV8zC9IQI/AOc/iuVU0kfIrRE/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1620.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WXvW45uwk18/VIuWADyVV3I/AOk/wqpmMZsJmew/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1621.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m5pSv2neeCY/VIuWDkhe7aI/AOs/4dNZOA8MGFc/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1623.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mj3yPTGctPw/VIuVsO_YSQI/AN8/YWH8KbwWCpQ/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1602.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F8gUXYXlIqk/VIuVnVcZQ-I/AN0/8zD0Zn1B0PA/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1597.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, Sackville, Swift, Edelux, Ortlieb, Dyanamo Wheelset, etc
Everything just went down in price by $10. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Baltimore, MD to Scranton,PA ride planning...
Hey, Bobby Montclair here... True, the East Coast Greenway would be less direct, and add significant miles but it's a defined, formal route, and likely an interesting one (albeit in a kind of urban, kludgy, gritty way), some of it follows dedicated trail; some over designated roads. Once you reach Philadelphia (110 miles from Baltimore) the route pretty much follows the Delaware River another 140 miles (through the town of Lambertville where I currently live) to Milford PA, some 60 miles East of Scranton. So adding up the miles (approx 310 total?) and grouping them into reasonable biking segments,you'd be looking at a 2-day ride from Baltimore to Lambertville, then another 2 days to Scranton. If you follow a more direct route (approx 220 miles), you could try to squeeze it into 2 days, although 3 sounds more realistic. Should you decide to pass through Lambertville, I'd be happy to at least provide you with a bed and a decent meal for an evening. If I had the extra time to spend, I'd take the ECG route; otherwise I'd expect the semi-rural direct route up through Maryland and Pennsylvania to be quite beautiful. Whichever you decide, good luck! Peace, Bobby Birmingham (aka MontclairBobbyB) On Friday, December 12, 2014 11:30:55 AM UTC-5, Bikie#4646 wrote: It could take you a little longer, but if you want to get off the road for a bit, the Delaware Water Gap Recreational Area is nice. The Old Mine Road is on the NJ side of the Delaware River and the (recommended by me) McDade Rec.Trail on the PA side will take you north from the little township of Delaware Water Gap on I-80 to Milford, PA on I-84, east of Scranton. PA Route 6 east can be accessed there and I think it is a designated bike route. I'm from VA, so you'd need more onto on that. The hgwy is not west-coast standards for shoulders, but it could work. I'll bet Bobby Montclair in NJ could verify. There are a lot of rail trails, etc. on the NJ side of the river, but most likely just a bit too far east for you? Paul Germain, Midlothian, Va On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:55:56 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: You Rivfolks do some long distance rando riding, touring, campling, etc... What's the best way to plan a long ride like this from Baltimore, MD to Scranton, PA? Any east coasters know some bike friendly routes? I've only done a few centuriesin the last year and a half, so don't know if I would be able to handle a double century going to Scranton, as its 200 miles. Maybe layover at a motel one night and travel the rest the next day. Don't know how tough back to back centuries are for a commuter and recreational century and half century rider like me when I am in shape in the spring and summer and fall. Bike friendly routes would be the most important thing, I think. I know there is a MUP that runs from Baltimore to York, PA, so maybe that is a start. Don't know if I'd even dare to do this, but it would be fun and memorable. So I'm looking into it to see if it even seems realistic for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
