Re: [RBW] Re: BQ to publish study of pedal retention usefulness in Summer issue

2015-07-16 Thread Patrick Moore
This just in: from the VO blog. Obviously rigorous, high and pure science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNedIJBZpgMfeature=youtu.be

Seriously, if not exactly rigorous or pure, still interesting. (The rigor
is at the level of the BQ observations: anecdotal, but still informative.)

For my own particular purposes, the key remarks are at the end: forget
racing, but when you ride fixed, or even if you tend to mash rather than
spin,  or hells, even when you are spinning hard as you accelerate, you not
infrequently find yourself pulling up rather hard, or at least, pulling
around with some energy. Certainly you do so when climbing steep hills, but
also simply when accelerating, seated as well as standing, as when,
sitting, you accelerate hard to make a light. At least, I myself *do* pedal
in circles to some extent when, sprinting to make a light or trying vainly
to impress onlookers.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Richard rlh3...@gmail.com wrote:

 You said it Patrick, the ability to move ones feet while riding is a huge
 benefit. Even slight movements make a big difference.

 I don't get BQ's opening the lid analogy, nor do I understand this
 statement When my feet are firmly attached to the pedals, I may not
 actually pull up, but I am using the pedal that is moving upward as a fixed
 point to push against with my downstroke leg.

 What? How can the upward moving pedal be a fixed point to push against?

 I'm not against clipless, I used them for many years, but the arguments in
 favor of, aren't convincing to me anymore. I know I'm in the minority here,
 but switching to platform pedals with pins has changed my mind about the
 need for foot retention for any type of riding. Just my experience, take it
 with a grain of salt.

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
What I meant was, that it is, for me, purely aesthetic. Also, knowing that I 
can't get a double tube riv in my size, other than a 56 sam, without going 
custom, is part of it. Ride wise, I doubt I'm gaining much. I like the look, 
it's unique. Mechanically and logically, it makes little sense I'm sure

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
What I meant was, that it is, for me, purely aesthetic. Also, knowing that I 
can't get a double tube riv in my size, other than a 56 sam, without going 
custom, is part of it. Ride wise, I doubt I'm gaining much. I like the look, 
it's unique. Mechanically and logically, it makes little sense I'm sure

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[RBW] Re: Question re Decal Removal

2015-07-16 Thread Joe Bernard
That's Grant's thing. The flash studio they did a couple years ago in San 
Francisco had what has to be the most scratched up Rivendell in existence 
hanging proudly on the wall (I think it was Spencer's, as shown in an early 
Reader). I admire his ability to tolerate such abuse of a fine bicycle, but 
I can't do it. Bubbling/peeling decals drive me crazy. 

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 7:50:02 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote:

 On one of my trips to Rivendell Grant pointed out to me the decals on his 
 Hilsen.  His were cracked as you describe but I do not remember any 
 bubbling.  Anyway, it seemed to me he liked it.  I suppose it's a beausage 
 sort of thing.  I got to say that I kind of liked it too.

 Matt

 On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:

 Hello, 

 I was wondering if anyone has experience dealing with a damaged decal.

 The bike is an Atlantis. Not the end of the world, but the seat-tube 
 decal is cracked and bubbling off. Does anyone know of a method of removal 
 without otherwise damaging the paint? No decal would look better than a 
 bubbly one.

 Thanks for any expertise you might share.

 Jim S.



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[RBW] How do I tell if I need a spacer for a 7speed cassette?

2015-07-16 Thread Lungimsam
Hi y'all,

Want to try a Shimano 7speed cassette with tight spacing I like on my Blue Sam.
How can I tell  if I need a 4.5 spacer or not with my freehub?
It's an RBW stock 650b wheelset Velocity hub with a Shimano compatible freehub 
that came stock with 9 speed cassette, then I went to 8-speed. Worked great, 
but now I wanna go 7speed.

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[RBW] Re: How do I tell if I need a spacer for a 7speed cassette?

2015-07-16 Thread Joe Bernard
You'll need the spacer. 8-speed is almost identical spacing to 7, they 
simply lengthened the freehub and added a cog. From there the spacing got 
narrowed as the 9th and later 10th cogs were added so that all three fit on 
the same body that started with 8. Shorter version: We have 7-speed 
freehubs and 8/9/10-speed freehubs. 

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:00:44 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 Hi y'all, 

 Want to try a Shimano 7speed cassette with tight spacing I like on my Blue 
 Sam. 
 How can I tell  if I need a 4.5 spacer or not with my freehub? 
 It's an RBW stock 650b wheelset Velocity hub with a Shimano compatible 
 freehub that came stock with 9 speed cassette, then I went to 8-speed. 
 Worked great, but now I wanna go 7speed.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Searching for a cheapo saddle with B17 like fit

2015-07-16 Thread Joe Bernard
I just picked up a shockingly immaculate '98-ish Bianchi Osprey mtb 
(welcome to Marin County, where thousands of mountain bikes were ridden 
once, then put away in nice, temperature controlled homes), and it has an 
equally untouched WTB Speed V..droop nose, 145mm width, looks like every 
SST I've ever seen. I might try riding it for a few days, but it's probably 
coming off for a Brooks. I'll pass it on for not much cash if I decide not 
to keep it.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 8:19:00 AM UTC-7, joe b. wrote:

 Count me as one who finds the WTB SST pretty close to a B17. You can't 
 really compare plastic and leather saddle widths directly because of the 
 leather saddles' frames and rivets. The SST is about 145mm wide, about 
 identical to a b17 between the rivets.

 I haven't taken mine on a long ride yet, but for a 6 mile commute, it's a 
 great b17 stand in. They came on some complete surlys at some point, so 
 shops might have take offs.

 Best,
 joe broach
 pdx or

 Caveat lector. Sent from a phone.
 On Jul 15, 2015 6:24 AM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Were these not fairly narrow in the rear section though? I had one SST.X 
 and it was OK but not nearly the same shape or width as a B17. Maybe mine 
 was one of the later variants. 

 Another worth considering is a Vetta SL from the 90's. Quality 
 lightweight saddle with a wide cantle area.

 They come fairly cheaply online:
 Here's one in Canada 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1993-VETTA-SL-Italian-Road-Saddle-Black-Leather-Manganese-248g-160mm-/400956726502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item5d5ae21ce6

 KJ 


 On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 7:47:11 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Keep an eye out for the old WTB SST saddles - the ones with the melted 
 looking nose.  Those were pretty close, fairly unpadded (though they made a 
 monster number of derivations of it over the years).

 Wish I'd known - I had a set of three or four old, nasty, peeling, SST's 
 which I donated to the local recyclery a while back.  

 - Jim

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[RBW] Re: New York Times Story: The Bicycle and the Ride to Modern America

2015-07-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thanks for sharing.  I passed it along to my children.

Michael

On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 7:39:02 PM UTC-4, mho wrote:


 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/14/science/the-bicycle-and-the-ride-to-modern-america.html


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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread Surlyprof
I believe the double tt Hillbornes had a longer top tube than the later 56s 
and 55s.  I have a 56 canti Sam with a 57.5cm top tube.  I think the 
doubles were 59cm.  I've always liked the look of the double tubes but also 
agree with Patick that the single tt Sam is pretty solid.  It is now my 
only trail bike and is doing a great job.

John

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:53:11 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Curious: what does the second top tube on a 56 cm frame do?

 I briefly owned a 56 cm single tt Sam, and the bike was very stout.

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:10 PM, 650Bsplease achati...@pointloma.edu 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hi folks! Looking for a double tube sam, frame or complete. Any leads or 
 offers are greatly appreciated. 

 Happy Trails 
 Andrew

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[RBW] Stem length considerations

2015-07-16 Thread Leslie
Just came across this in my morning reading...

Bike sizing should be, get the right size frame, then find the right length 
of stem to dial in the cockpit length;  but I usually hadn't thought of the 
effect of weight distribution over the front tire

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/03/how-does-stem-length-affect-a-bikes-steering-and-handling/

Makes sense, just not a step in thinking about it that I'd considered...   


Not that it's going to change anything I've done, but, it's something that 
I might have in the back of my head...



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[RBW] Stem length considerations

2015-07-16 Thread Avery Wilson
I'm compensating for my short (dirt drop) stem with a handlebar bag. Weight 
over front wheel problem = solved. :) 

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[RBW] FS: Ruffy Tuffy, Mark's Rack, Baggins, Schwalbe, C17

2015-07-16 Thread David Sprunger
Riders,

I'm listing a few items on ebay later this week, but I thought I'd
offer them here first. All prices include cheapest US shipping.
Paypal ok.

Brooks C17, natural color. Little used. $120.

Nitto M1 (Mark's rack). You get a Mark's rack, diving board, one set
of draw bolts, a pair of P-clamps, and two sets of short struts (one
curved and one straight), but depending on your intended use, you may
have to get some more small parts from Riv or elsewhere. $75.  See
your options here: www.rivbike.com/Racks-s/114.htm.

Ruffy Tuffy tires. 700c x 28. Wire bead. Ridden about 20 miles before
I went up a size. $80.

Schwalbe Big Ben tires. 700c x 50. Ridden about 20 miles before I
went up a size with these too. $80.

Baggins leather key fob. This is a basic leather fob onto which is
stamped (rather faintly) a logo reminiscent of the Rivendell seal
with a double B and a pair of stars. It reads Baggins Bags across
the top and Sacks for Travellers across the bottom. For the bag
matcher who has everything else. $10.

Snapshots here: http://faculty.cord.edu/sprunger/July15/

Thanks,
David Sprunger
Fargo, ND

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Re: [RBW] Stem length considerations

2015-07-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Stem length, or rather effective reach, is affected by bar height and by
bar shape as well. A few years ago, after having ridden for years with
Nitto 185 (short reach, deepish drop) bars on 8 cm stems 6 cm or so below
saddle, I switched to Maes Parallel bars with a much longer reach (115
versus 90) and shallower drop (125 versus 140) 3 cm below saddle. The reach
from saddle nose to points of brake hoods remains almost the same, and I am
just about as far over the tire when on hoods or in hooks, but I'm also
more upright.

Also, as you move from flats to ramps to hoods to hooks, your weight moves
forward.

I'll add to the fit equation: get the right frame, then *get the saddle in
the right place: up and down/fore and aft;* and in third place choose your
stem for the right bar position.

FWIW, my 2 remaining Rivs are perfect with 8 cm stems and the Maes
Parallels 3 cm below saddle.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just came across this in my morning reading...

 Bike sizing should be, get the right size frame, then find the right
 length of stem to dial in the cockpit length;  but I usually hadn't thought
 of the effect of weight distribution over the front tire


 http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/03/how-does-stem-length-affect-a-bikes-steering-and-handling/

 Makes sense, just not a step in thinking about it that I'd considered...


 Not that it's going to change anything I've done, but, it's something that
 I might have in the back of my head...



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[RBW] Re: Suntour Bar-Con Question

2015-07-16 Thread JohnS
Hello Roy,
 
The housings are 26 3/4 inches long. I was able to measure the pair that I 
had on my '83 Expedition.
 
JohnS
Allentown, PA
 

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 12:26:40 PM UTC-4, Roy Drinkwater wrote:

 I'm restoring a Miyata from 1979 and I'm almost done.  But what was the 
 standard length of the coiled housing?  If you have an original setup or a 
 NOS package, could you measure for me? 

 Roy Drinkwater 
 Lititz, PA

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[RBW] Re: Question re Decal Removal

2015-07-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
Rivendell sells hatchets. Amazing the fine work that can be done with a 
keen edge and good hand. Grin. I'd call it beausage and be done, but then I 
generally don't even notice things like that.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:05:20 PM UTC-6, Jim S. wrote:

 Hello, 
 I was wondering if anyone has experience dealing with a damaged decal.


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[RBW] Re: In praise of the Big Apple 26

2015-07-16 Thread Johan Larsson
When the Big Apples wear out, I can recommend the Super Moto,much like the 
Big Apples but lighter and faster because there's no puncture protection 
layer. So far I have had no problems with my 26/559 mm tires - there's no 
thorns here, but I do a lot of fast riding on sharp gravel, long sections 
with fist-sized blocky rocks, and tarmac with broken glass. No punctures so 
far, and I'm on the third (or is it maybe the fourth?) year of riding. I 
was planning to buy the Big Apple, but the Super Moto had just been 
available and I went for it.

For me, where I live and ride, puncture protection seems unnecessary for 
tires 42 mm and the lower pressures that comes with them. I once tried 32 
mm thin, lightweight tires without any puncture protection and got 10 
punctures in 14 days (always small glass pieces). With Grand Bois Hetres I 
had one puncture in two or three years under the same riding conditions.

John Larsson,
Sweden

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Re: [RBW] FS: Ruffy Tuffy, Mark's Rack, Baggins, Schwalbe, C17

2015-07-16 Thread Tim Gavin
I'll take the Nitto M1, please.

The hardware included should work perfectly for my intended use.

Ship to 52404.

I can paypal.

Thanks!
Tim


On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:20 AM, David Sprunger sprun...@gmail.com wrote:

 Riders,

 I'm listing a few items on ebay later this week, but I thought I'd
 offer them here first. All prices include cheapest US shipping.
 Paypal ok.

 Brooks C17, natural color. Little used. $120.

 Nitto M1 (Mark's rack). You get a Mark's rack, diving board, one set
 of draw bolts, a pair of P-clamps, and two sets of short struts (one
 curved and one straight), but depending on your intended use, you may
 have to get some more small parts from Riv or elsewhere. $75.  See
 your options here: www.rivbike.com/Racks-s/114.htm.

 Ruffy Tuffy tires. 700c x 28. Wire bead. Ridden about 20 miles before
 I went up a size. $80.

 Schwalbe Big Ben tires. 700c x 50. Ridden about 20 miles before I
 went up a size with these too. $80.

 Baggins leather key fob. This is a basic leather fob onto which is
 stamped (rather faintly) a logo reminiscent of the Rivendell seal
 with a double B and a pair of stars. It reads Baggins Bags across
 the top and Sacks for Travellers across the bottom. For the bag
 matcher who has everything else. $10.

 Snapshots here: http://faculty.cord.edu/sprunger/July15/

 Thanks,
 David Sprunger
 Fargo, ND

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread Patrick Moore
IIRC, the tt on my single tt 56 cm SH was 59 -- that must be right, since
my normal road tt choice is about 57 and I know that I had to put the bar
on the SH much higher than I like to get the bar close enough to fit (many
variables here, but the long tt was one reason I sold the Sam).

I'm not knocking 2X tts; just asking what purpose it serves on a 56 cm
frame (or 58 or 60, for that matter), for the sort of riding most of us use
it for?

I do recall riders of larger 2 tt Bombadils describing the nimble feel of
the bike.

Meshing this thread with another recent one, stem length and weight over
front wheel and handling: One reason I sold my SH was that, when climbing
seated, without a rear load, but especially with one, the front end wagged
all over the road. I daresay that one factor was my high bar, which didn't
allow sufficient front wheel weight.

At any rate, if the SH could take 60 mm tires, I'd probably still own one.
It would have made a nice alternative to my Fargo in that case. (Even with
2 tts.)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:11 AM, Surlyprof jmcclu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe the double tt Hillbornes had a longer top tube than the later
 56s and 55s.  I have a 56 canti Sam with a 57.5cm top tube.  I think the
 doubles were 59cm.  I've always liked the look of the double tubes but also
 agree with Patick that the single tt Sam is pretty solid.  It is now my
 only trail bike and is doing a great job.

 John

 On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:53:11 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Curious: what does the second top tube on a 56 cm frame do?

 I briefly owned a 56 cm single tt Sam, and the bike was very stout.

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:10 PM, 650Bsplease achati...@pointloma.edu
 wrote:

 Hi folks! Looking for a double tube sam, frame or complete. Any leads or
 offers are greatly appreciated.

 Happy Trails
 Andrew

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Re: [RBW] How do I tell if I need a spacer for a 7speed cassette?

2015-07-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I ran a home-made 7 sp cassette on a 8/9/10 sp Ultegra hub by intalling
spacers at each end (near spokes and near lockring). I think I just used
spare spacers from my cog box, 7 or 8 speed ones. It worked fine.

Note: sometimes if your spacers (or cassette as a whole) are a wee bit too
thick, you can get by if you choose a lockring with deeper threads. Torque
IME gets everything back to normal width specs. That's what I do with my
current home-made 9 sp, where many of the cogs are thicker 7 or 8 sp types.

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 Hi y'all,

 Want to try a Shimano 7speed cassette with tight spacing I like on my Blue
 Sam.
 How can I tell  if I need a 4.5 spacer or not with my freehub?
 It's an RBW stock 650b wheelset Velocity hub with a Shimano compatible
 freehub that came stock with 9 speed cassette, then I went to 8-speed.
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread Bruce Smitham
I own a 2TT Sam Hillborne and have had a single TT. Both worked great. My 2TT 
SH works better than all my other Riv bikes. Less handlebar shimmy for sure. 
Maybe those 2TT provide less flex. Another benefit of the 2TT's is that you can 
place a full size frame pump between the tubes and it doesn't get in the way 
when you pick up your bike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Searching for a cheapo saddle with B17 like fit

2015-07-16 Thread clyde canter
Skimming through the thread I picked up on SST.  I nabbed a cheaper OEM
takeoff at my LBS a while back.  I'm definitely not in the camp of likers.
I'd be happy to part with it for 20 bucks, plus shipping.  No perceivable
use at all, like new.
Pm if anyone is interested.

Best,
Clyde Canter


On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just picked up a shockingly immaculate '98-ish Bianchi Osprey mtb
 (welcome to Marin County, where thousands of mountain bikes were ridden
 once, then put away in nice, temperature controlled homes), and it has an
 equally untouched WTB Speed V..droop nose, 145mm width, looks like every
 SST I've ever seen. I might try riding it for a few days, but it's probably
 coming off for a Brooks. I'll pass it on for not much cash if I decide not
 to keep it.

 On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 8:19:00 AM UTC-7, joe b. wrote:

 Count me as one who finds the WTB SST pretty close to a B17. You can't
 really compare plastic and leather saddle widths directly because of the
 leather saddles' frames and rivets. The SST is about 145mm wide, about
 identical to a b17 between the rivets.

 I haven't taken mine on a long ride yet, but for a 6 mile commute, it's a
 great b17 stand in. They came on some complete surlys at some point, so
 shops might have take offs.

 Best,
 joe broach
 pdx or

 Caveat lector. Sent from a phone.
 On Jul 15, 2015 6:24 AM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Were these not fairly narrow in the rear section though? I had one SST.X
 and it was OK but not nearly the same shape or width as a B17. Maybe mine
 was one of the later variants.

 Another worth considering is a Vetta SL from the 90's. Quality
 lightweight saddle with a wide cantle area.

 They come fairly cheaply online:
 Here's one in Canada
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1993-VETTA-SL-Italian-Road-Saddle-Black-Leather-Manganese-248g-160mm-/400956726502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item5d5ae21ce6

 KJ


 On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 7:47:11 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Keep an eye out for the old WTB SST saddles - the ones with the
 melted looking nose.  Those were pretty close, fairly unpadded (though
 they made a monster number of derivations of it over the years).

 Wish I'd known - I had a set of three or four old, nasty, peeling,
 SST's which I donated to the local recyclery a while back.

 - Jim

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[RBW] FS: Ruffy Tuffy, Mark's Rack, Baggins, Schwalbe, C17

2015-07-16 Thread WETH
David,
Ruffy Tuffys please.
Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Can you elaborate? Why exactly do you like the double tube design?

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  I totally get the desire for the special extra tube that may or may not
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[RBW] Re: Seattle-to-Portland this weekend?

2015-07-16 Thread Andy Williams
Excellent, Rob.   

The One-Day ride is a major accomplishment.

We can have a great discussion over which is worse, the West Valley Highway 
or US-30 in Oregon!

Andy   



On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:41:35 AM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:

  

 Nice report Andy.  I agree it's kind of a madhouse but it's a fun trip.  I 
 ride in group about twice a year and nearly all my rides are unplanned with 
 no real destination so it's a complete change of pace for me.  I did it in 
 one day which was my longest ride ever.  I paid for it that night and the 
 next day but I'm pretty much back to normal except for a sore Achilles 
 heel. How guys do PBP and longer rides is beyond me. 

  

 The weather was a nice change from the recent heat wavelow 70's, some 
 drizzle, cloudy with mild to moderate head winds. There were some nice 
 changes to the course this year.  The route through McChord/Lewis military 
 base was a wonderful change replacing the worst section of the ride.  I 
 also made a 14 mile side-track and rode down the empty Interurban trail 
 instead of riding through the second worst section…the despised West Valley 
 highway.  No stoplights, no crowds...nothing but a lot of baby rabbits! 
  Also a new trail between Centralia and Chehalis was an improvement. 

  

 The Rivendell performed flawlessly with no problems.  The new Compass 
 tires are as good as advertised...very soft, smooth, however, I did 
 experience my first flat in 6 STP's. It was a big chunk of glass that 
 likely would have punctured about anything so I can't complain.  The tire 
 still has a small hole that looks kind of vulnerable so I'll boot it from 
 the back and hope for the best. 

  

 I took a pretty moderate pace with the goal to avoid longs stops and keep 
 moving.  Finished in 14:45 which was about 15 minutes longer than 
 estimated.  I did have the puncture though and also stopped to help a guy 
 out….he fixed his flat but didn't know how to put the wheel back on.  

  

 I saw the aftermaths of three crashes.  Two looked pretty minor but the 
 other one had rider was dusty and scratched up from head to toe.  I thought 
 the behavior of the vast majority of riders was very good.  I was ahead of 
 the big mass of two day riders though so I think most the people I was near 
 were fairly experienced.  Saw one a-hole in Centralia throw water at a car 
 that was passing him…he said he was getting squeezed but I was behind him 
 and he was way over to the left.  That seems to be my biggest beef….if you 
 are passing do it and get over!  I'm kind of amazed nobody gets killed on 
 the highway in Oregon where cars and truck are flying by at freeway speeds.

  

 Any it was a fun day but I'm ready to get back to my normal rambles.   A 
 few pics here:

  

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/sets/72157655744716946

  

 Rob Markwardt

 On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 6:18:28 AM UTC-7, Andy Williams wrote:


 Successful STP!   Ride report here 
 http://awilliams53.blogspot.com/2015/07/stp-2015.html.

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[RBW] FS: sackville saddlesack, acorn rando, topo designs pack

2015-07-16 Thread 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch
Backpack has sold. Acorn rando bag is still available. 

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
I also have a 56 dbl tt sam. I Bought it used and I would be lying if I said 
that having something that fits me with a, now unproduced, double tube didn't 
influence the decision. When I got my hunq I really wanted a diagonal 58, but 
couldn't fit it. I totally get the desire for the special extra tube that may 
or may not do anything. Especially when you're right on the edge of being tall 
enough

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
What I meant was, that it is, for me, purely aesthetic. Also, knowing that I 
can't get a double tube riv in my size, other than a 56 sam, without going 
custom, is part of it. Ride wise, I doubt I'm gaining much. I like the look, 
it's unique. Mechanically and logically, it makes little sense I'm sure

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-16 Thread drew
What I meant was, that it is, for me, purely aesthetic. Also, knowing that I 
can't get a double tube riv in my size, other than a 56 sam, without going 
custom, is part of it. Ride wise, I doubt I'm gaining much. I like the look, 
it's unique. Mechanically and logically, it makes little sense I'm sure

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[RBW] WTB: 29er rear wheel, 9 sp compatible

2015-07-16 Thread Neil
Kind of a longshot here, but I'm looking for a 'cost effective' (OK, 
cheapish) rear wheel for a 29er project I have going. Something with a 9 
speed hub body, normal MTB rim width. 

Anybody have anything collecting dust?

Cheers,

Neil

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[RBW] Re: How do I tell if I need a spacer for a 7speed cassette?

2015-07-16 Thread Lungimsam
Three more questions:
1. Will using the spacer mess with my chainline, and does it matter?
Also:
2. Will I have to reset my limit screws because of the 4.5mm spacer? No 
biggie. Just want to know.
3. How do I get around those rivets on the back of the cassette that won't 
allow the spacer to sit flush onto the freehub? Grind them off? 
Show trimmed content 

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[RBW] Re: How do I tell if I need a spacer for a 7speed cassette?

2015-07-16 Thread Lungimsam
OK, so last two questions:

1. Will I have to reset my limit screws because of the 4.5mm spacer? No 
biggie. Just want to know.
2. How do I get around those rivets on the back of the cassette that won't 
allow the spacer to sit flush onto the freehub? Grind them off? 

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[RBW] Re: How do I tell if I need a spacer for a 7speed cassette?

2015-07-16 Thread Jeremy Till
Basically any freehub currently sold will be 8-9-10 speed compatible or 
11-speed if it is higher end road.  7 speed freehubs were only produced for 
a short period of time, so unless you're buying a used wheelset it's 
unlikely you'll end up with one.  A wheel stocked LBS should have a spacer 
specifically designed for this purpose, for when they have to replace a 
wheel on a 7 speed cassette bike.  Wheels Manufacturing makes one.  

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:00:44 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 Hi y'all, 

 Want to try a Shimano 7speed cassette with tight spacing I like on my Blue 
 Sam. 
 How can I tell  if I need a 4.5 spacer or not with my freehub? 
 It's an RBW stock 650b wheelset Velocity hub with a Shimano compatible 
 freehub that came stock with 9 speed cassette, then I went to 8-speed. 
 Worked great, but now I wanna go 7speed.

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[RBW] Re: Seattle-to-Portland this weekend?

2015-07-16 Thread RoadieRyan
Chapeau Rob, cool that they routed you through the base this year

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:41:35 AM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:

  

 Nice report Andy.  I agree it's kind of a madhouse but it's a fun trip.  I 
 ride in group about twice a year and nearly all my rides are unplanned with 
 no real destination so it's a complete change of pace for me.  I did it in 
 one day which was my longest ride ever.  I paid for it that night and the 
 next day but I'm pretty much back to normal except for a sore Achilles 
 heel. How guys do PBP and longer rides is beyond me. 

  

 The weather was a nice change from the recent heat wavelow 70's, some 
 drizzle, cloudy with mild to moderate head winds. There were some nice 
 changes to the course this year.  The route through McChord/Lewis military 
 base was a wonderful change replacing the worst section of the ride.  I 
 also made a 14 mile side-track and rode down the empty Interurban trail 
 instead of riding through the second worst section…the despised West Valley 
 highway.  No stoplights, no crowds...nothing but a lot of baby rabbits! 
  Also a new trail between Centralia and Chehalis was an improvement. 

  

 The Rivendell performed flawlessly with no problems.  The new Compass 
 tires are as good as advertised...very soft, smooth, however, I did 
 experience my first flat in 6 STP's. It was a big chunk of glass that 
 likely would have punctured about anything so I can't complain.  The tire 
 still has a small hole that looks kind of vulnerable so I'll boot it from 
 the back and hope for the best. 

  

 I took a pretty moderate pace with the goal to avoid longs stops and keep 
 moving.  Finished in 14:45 which was about 15 minutes longer than 
 estimated.  I did have the puncture though and also stopped to help a guy 
 out….he fixed his flat but didn't know how to put the wheel back on.  

  

 I saw the aftermaths of three crashes.  Two looked pretty minor but the 
 other one had rider was dusty and scratched up from head to toe.  I thought 
 the behavior of the vast majority of riders was very good.  I was ahead of 
 the big mass of two day riders though so I think most the people I was near 
 were fairly experienced.  Saw one a-hole in Centralia throw water at a car 
 that was passing him…he said he was getting squeezed but I was behind him 
 and he was way over to the left.  That seems to be my biggest beef….if you 
 are passing do it and get over!  I'm kind of amazed nobody gets killed on 
 the highway in Oregon where cars and truck are flying by at freeway speeds.

  

 Any it was a fun day but I'm ready to get back to my normal rambles.   A 
 few pics here:

  

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/sets/72157655744716946

  

 Rob Markwardt

 On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 6:18:28 AM UTC-7, Andy Williams wrote:


 Successful STP!   Ride report here 
 http://awilliams53.blogspot.com/2015/07/stp-2015.html.

 Andy



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[RBW] Re: FS: Bike Friday Pocket Rocket 58cm $1400 shipped CONUS

2015-07-16 Thread Christopher Murray
Bump... maybe this is a sign that I shouldn't sell it. One last try and then I 
think it will just stay put. $1150 shipped CONUS includes two king iris cages 
and a pair for new in the box Grip Kings.

Chris

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[RBW] Re: How do I tell if I need a spacer for a 7speed cassette?

2015-07-16 Thread Rich Lesnik
I have the necessary spacer at Rivendell. Give me a call on Monday, and 
I'll send it to you. It's a standard item. Be careful with your derailer 
adjustment, however. You definitely do NOT want your chain dropping between 
the cassette and spokes.

Rich at Riv

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:00:44 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 Hi y'all, 

 Want to try a Shimano 7speed cassette with tight spacing I like on my Blue 
 Sam. 
 How can I tell  if I need a 4.5 spacer or not with my freehub? 
 It's an RBW stock 650b wheelset Velocity hub with a Shimano compatible 
 freehub that came stock with 9 speed cassette, then I went to 8-speed. 
 Worked great, but now I wanna go 7speed.

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[RBW] Re: Suggestions for replacement for B 135 for my dirt road bike?

2015-07-16 Thread William deRosset
Dear Patrick,

Noodles (too much drop, maybe, but not a lot). Bonus points for the 
bulge-formed and heat-treated version.
Maes Parallel 
Philippe Professional and Compass/Grand Bois Reproduction 
VO knockoffs of the Maes Parallel.

Best Regards,

Will
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 3:51:47 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I love the 44 cm B 135 on the Fargo except for one thing: the slight 
 upsweep on the flats.

 Can anyone recommend a bar with similar reach and drop (105 and 120)?

 In fact, I wouldn't mind 1 cm more reach as long as the flats are flat. 
 Drop must be no more than 120. But the imperative is a perfectly flat flat 
 part.

 (Sounds very much like I want a wider Maes Parallel; I have 37s or 38s on 
 my 2 road bikes ...)

 But are there alternatives?

 Bar must be strong enough for dirt road use and available in 44-45 cm 
 width at hoods. Flare not necessary. I don't like mountain bike flares 
 (having tried 6 or 8 different models).

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[RBW] Suggestions for replacement for B 135 for my dirt road bike?

2015-07-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I love the 44 cm B 135 on the Fargo except for one thing: the slight
upsweep on the flats.

Can anyone recommend a bar with similar reach and drop (105 and 120)?

In fact, I wouldn't mind 1 cm more reach as long as the flats are flat.
Drop must be no more than 120. But the imperative is a perfectly flat flat
part.

(Sounds very much like I want a wider Maes Parallel; I have 37s or 38s on
my 2 road bikes ...)

But are there alternatives?

Bar must be strong enough for dirt road use and available in 44-45 cm width
at hoods. Flare not necessary. I don't like mountain bike flares (having
tried 6 or 8 different models).

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