[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread Chad
That's a shame. The SM is such a great deal for someone wanting to join the Riv family! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] PRICE DROP! FS: HERON Touring 55cm complete build

2016-01-16 Thread MartyG
After a few nibbles, this bike is still with me, and I'd like to see it go to a good home. I'll knock off $100 this week, and another $100 next week if it's still around. After that it might go into hiding until Spring. So, that means $1,150 today, and $1,050 a week from today. Either way I'll

[RBW] PRICE DROP! FS: HERON Touring 55cm complete build

2016-01-16 Thread Chad
Marty, I'm going to shoot and email to Grant to see if he thinks this bike would be a good fit. I'm a 80.5 PBH and a 69-70 saddle height depending on the pedals and shoes. Looks like the standover on the Heron is about 80.6 with 35 width tires. What do you guys think, could I fit this bike?

[RBW] Re: What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

2016-01-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
I can't resist (and can't believe no one else beat me to it. Clearly everyone else is smarter than I). The purpose of the rear brake is to back up the front brake. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: New ACW patches and hats for all you bag matching, outside coffee types

2016-01-16 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
"KA-fee" ;) On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 8:53:14 AM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: > > Is it pronounced "caf-fe-uh-nated", or "caf-feen-at-ed"? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Garbage Pail Riv sighted in Berkeley

2016-01-16 Thread cyclotourist
The Shimano 600s. Had the full 600 group on my '86 Allez and they were NOT comfortable to ride in at all if you didn't have a cleated shoe. But yeah, better than SPD pedals with reg. shoes :-) On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

2016-01-16 Thread Joe Bernard
My comment was intended for mainly humorous purposes. I think fixed looks like fun; one of these days I'll grab one of the millions of cheap, garishly-colored fixies littering the SF Bay Area Craigslist and become Old Hipster Guy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

2016-01-16 Thread dougP
Phil: Nicely done. Thanks for your efforts on this & other patches. I'll have to get a couple headed my way. dougP On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:22:14 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: > > I'm making my first "Biketinker" patches, with Walter at Falls Creek > Outfitters. He's going to

[RBW] Re: Removing powder coat from canti brake studs

2016-01-16 Thread Lungimsam
pics!pics! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Society of Three Speeds membership kits on sale

2016-01-16 Thread Shawn Granton
Hello Bunch, I know at least a few of you here are three speed owners and enthusiasts on this list. And a few of you here are already members! But seeing Brad's ACW post earlier reminded me that I should post here about the sale I'm having on Society of Three Speeds membership kits. Until the end

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebars for problem backs?

2016-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I've noticed over the last 5-8 years that bars on conventional road bikes have risen quite a bit, so that many "recreational" riders -- why would you ride if it's not for recreation? -- on modern carbon fiber and aluminum road bikes are in almost a Grant-approved position. Note that back

[RBW] New ACW patches and hats for all you bag matching, outside coffee types

2016-01-16 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've had some request for a more "low key" color combo on patches that would work well on the tan and olive bag fabrics. I had been wanting to do a small run of camo hats and have sold out of the original ACW logo patches, so a perfect primer for a new run. I just added the new "woodland"

[RBW] Re: PRICE DROP! FS: HERON Touring 55cm complete build

2016-01-16 Thread Ryan Fleming
Hi Chad I'm a woman, but my measurements are similar to yours...my Riv road is 56cm.I probably have a shorter torso, but maybe this could work for you? The Heron looks like a heck of a terrific bike at a very nice price Good luck! On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 8:19:24 AM UTC-6, Chad wrote:

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread islaysteve
But is it really Grant's call? I know that he killed the Bleriot but that was a diffent deal; Riv-badged bike. Soma may have something to say about this one. For course, they may not be selling well Soma also. I agree, it would be a shame. I'd probably have bought one if I hadn't found my

[RBW] Re: Handlebars for problem backs?

2016-01-16 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
I support the wide flat bar suggestions. I have had three lower back surgeries and three carpal tunnel hand surgeries among others. I run a bar similar to an AHEARN or Jones Bar, and a Nitto dirt drop stem on my Atlantis. I found the Albatross bars were too upright. With fat tires and a

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread A CT Cyclist
That's really a shame. Makes me want to buy another one. Perhaps if they did away with the double top tube in the larger sizes it would appeal to more non Riv folks. On Jan 16, 2016 11:00 AM, "islaysteve" wrote: > But is it really Grant's call? I know that he killed the

[RBW] Re: Society of Three Speeds membership kits on sale

2016-01-16 Thread BSWP
Speaking of three-speeds... this looks like a fun event, in Minnesota this coming summer: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~steinborn/3speedtour.htm - Andrew, Berkeley On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 9:19:23 AM UTC-8, Shawn Granton wrote: > > Hello Bunch, > > I know at least a few of you here

[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

2016-01-16 Thread Andy Williams
Here's my collection from last year. Lots of rides, lots of riders, lots of styles and places https://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/albums/72157662901393999 Andy On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:39:16 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: > > Hi Group, > > I don't think I've seen a post on

[RBW] Re: New ACW patches and hats for all you bag matching, outside coffee types

2016-01-16 Thread Lungimsam
Is it pronounced "caf-fe-uh-nated", or "caf-feen-at-ed"? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

RE: [RBW] Someone order a Reader for me

2016-01-16 Thread olofstroh
Me too! Longtime Riv rider and reader (since 1996) I can understand the reasons but still find it irritating. Living abroad the minimum shipping costs from Riv is $50. The Reader plus a one-buck-badge would be $58. And the badge would make it commercial goods, making me vulnerable for another

[RBW] Re: What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

2016-01-16 Thread Jeremy Till
1. Redundancy. I like having two independent systems which can both stop the bike, albeit one more effectively that the other. 2. Ambidextrousness: Sometimes I'm doing something else with my right hand (front brake on my bike, I prefer "moto" or "brit" style), like grabbing a water bottle or

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread s...@austin.utexas.edu
Just got one through my LBS. Soma has a couple of 51cms left. May be worth pulling the trigger on a new one. Love the classic curve of the fork and the fact that the new ones have the mid fork braze-ons. It would be a shame to kill off this model. Seems to be a good bang for the buck compared

Re: [RBW] What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

2016-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
It's interesting to me, riding freewheels on the road again after so long with just a fixed gear, to learn how different cornering is. A rear brake is entirely unnecessary on a fixed gear, although it might be desirable according to your tastes, but when you are coasting around corners at much

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread cyclotourist
This. I'm not anti-DTT, but have fully consumed the Kool-Aide. I can't imagine even trying to explain it to the general bike-buying public. It's the equivalent of opening up a conversation with a description of your favorite RPG 12th level elf-princess wizard with a stranger at a bar. Not that I

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread cyclotourist
Good points, Jim. Basically the DTT shouldn't be a turn off for that many people. Although I think the 59cm frame is pretty well with standard frame size for a lot of people. Isn't a (traditional) 58cm frame the most popular size overall? That or 56, I forget... Still though, I don't think that

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Big One(s) on Clem.

2016-01-16 Thread El Sapo
Well as posted, there's no reason to worry about clearance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] PRICE DROP! FS: HERON Touring 55cm complete build

2016-01-16 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm 78 PBH and my Heron Road 54 fit well with a fist-full of seat post showing. I sold it because I'm at the point where I prefer a lot more standover clearance, but the fit on the bike was great. Buy it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
hi soma announced some new sizes that included a 54cm and 57cm for 650b wheels. there are no pictures on the internet of either san marcos that i can find. has anyone here actually seen one of these? pics? thanks joe kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Garbage Pail Riv sighted in Berkeley

2016-01-16 Thread JohnS
Thanks Bill, your cartoon made me laugh and helps put it into perspective. JohnS On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 3:30:40 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > > On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 11:39:15 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: >> >> He's a putz. >> >> >> -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread James Warren
If they did away with the DTT on the 59 cm size, it would be similar to the largest size single-top-tube frames offered by most major brands. The Specialized's in "61" for example, have a seat tube that is really quite a few cm less than 61 cm. (What they call "61" is an effective 61 if you

Re: [RBW] What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

2016-01-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/16/2016 12:59 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: And that leads to this Segway: I never understood what people meant by "feeling more at one" with the bike when it has a fixed drivetrain; but recently, going back and forth between fixed and free, I begin to see, or at least feel, that riding

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebars for problem backs?

2016-01-16 Thread Mike Shaljian
I've never had serious back pain or back issues, but I have gone from more traditional setups (drop bars level with the seat prior to Rivendell enlightenment) to a "weird" and supremely comfortable setup (relaxed Jones geometry with H-bar). I had always had issues with numbness/discomfort in

Re: [RBW] Re: PRICE DROP! FS: HERON Touring 55cm complete build

2016-01-16 Thread David Johnston
My Heron touring is a 57cm and I have a 83cm inseam and a 72cm saddle height and its a great fit. The top tube isn't that long, it has a 72deg seat angle so that makes the reach to the bars effectively a cm shorter than most bikes with the very common 73cm seat angle. The Sam Hillborne is not

Re: [RBW] What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

2016-01-16 Thread Joe Bernard
Agreed. Once upon a many years ago Ray Varella let me ride his fixed Riv and I dang near launched over the handlebars when I forgot I couldn't coast. I turned around and brought it right back before I and someone's custom bicycle ended up on the ground. Later my daughter told me Ray looked at

Re: [RBW] Re: Garbage Pail Riv sighted in Berkeley

2016-01-16 Thread Joe Bernard
Peter Von-whoever likes Chinese plastic so I don't have to ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

2016-01-16 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 2:48:25 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Agreed. Once upon a many years ago Ray Varella let me ride his fixed Riv > and I dang near launched over the handlebars when I forgot I couldn't > coast. I turned around and brought it right back before I and someone's >

Re: [RBW] Re: PRICE DROP! FS: HERON Touring 55cm complete build

2016-01-16 Thread Chad
On my previous post I said Mark recommended a 55 Hillborne, when I should have said 55 Hilsen. I have a 51 Hillborne and it fits great. A 55 Hillborne would be too big. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

2016-01-16 Thread ted
I think this almost launched experience is fairly common for first time fixed gear riders. But most people I've seen try it, get the hang of it pretty quick. I do think riding fixed makes the bike feel more like an extension of your body, or an appendage. Sort of transformative like changing

[RBW] FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

2016-01-16 Thread Philip Williamson
I'm making my first "Biketinker" patches, with Walter at Falls Creek Outfitters. He's going to tweak that R, and they'll be ready to ship in a couple weeks. If you'd like to get a couple, they're $5 each over on my Etsy shop. These first ones are a Sheldon tribute, since he started a lot more

[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

2016-01-16 Thread MartyG
Patch me in! Order placed. > Marty > > > > Many thanks! > Philip > www.biketinker.com > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

2016-01-16 Thread Shawn Granton
Nice job, Phil! I just pre-ordered mine. Today is shaping up to be a day of "bike club" gear! ;-) -Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Hunqa Sizing

2016-01-16 Thread Ryan Ray
I have a 35"/90cm PHB, which Hunqa size would be right for me? Any? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Hunqa Sizing

2016-01-16 Thread Joe Bernard
58. Scroll down for sizing stuff. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hunqapillar.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Hunqa Sizing

2016-01-16 Thread James Warren
58 for you would be my first guess. I have a 93 cm PBH. My 62 cm Hunqapillar is just right for all that I do on it, which is mostly Big Ben 700x55 riding, any surface, rides from half an hour in length to 4 days. If a person can fit a range of bikes, I would guess that the 62 cm Hunq is toward

Re: [RBW] What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

2016-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Even today after 19 years of riding fixed, I still get caught out occasionally after swapping from a derailleur bike back to a fixed gear. Fortunately, no such jolt recently has been very dangerous. I also get caught out the other way: my pedaling on a freewheel bike can be choppy for a half mile

[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

2016-01-16 Thread hsmitham
And done! Thanks Phillip for a great idea and patch. On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:22:14 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: > > I'm making my first "Biketinker" patches, with Walter at Falls Creek > Outfitters. He's going to tweak that R, and they'll be ready to ship in a > couple weeks.

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread Evan Baird
There's a whole set here. https://flic.kr/s/aHskmXiehz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Handlebars for problem backs?

2016-01-16 Thread George Schick
Took me a while to track it down, but this appeared in Riv Reader #4 or thereabouts. I believe Robert Gordon is a chiropractor, not sure. Anyway, FWIW: Raise Dat Stem! by Bob Gordon A flat back is one of the hallmarks of an experienced cyclist, particularly a racer, and over the years I

FW: [RBW] Someone order a Reader for me

2016-01-16 Thread olofstroh
-Original Message- From: Olof Stroh [mailto:o...@stroh.nu] Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 5:50 PM To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [RBW] Someone order a Reader for me Me too! Longtime Riv rider and reader (since 1996) I can understand the reasons but still find