Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Ray Varella
I treat my favorite bike/parts sellers the same way I treat my local hardware store. I go there first. I want them to stay in business because they provide a level of knowledge and courtesy that a big box or large anonymous online seller does not. When you deal with people who have invested

Re: [RBW] Re: My Debate

2017-02-12 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
Nice country riding around Cedartown. If you would, send me an email per your address so I can add it to the list. Cheers, Bill in Roswell, GA On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 8:59:15 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote: > > I live near Montgomery, AL but every other week work in Cedartown with a >

Re: [RBW] Re: My Debate

2017-02-12 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
Rich, Tony lives in the Decatur area. A friend of mine rides with him regularly. I used to do Ride to the Capital, but I'm over-committed for March as is! Cheers, Bill in Roswell, Ga On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 3:44:28 PM UTC-5, RichS wrote: > > Hi Bill: > > Bill, thanks for compiling a

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Daniel D.
well then guess it's nothing to get worked up about. It's a great deal... On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 7:37:36 PM UTC-8, Justin August wrote: > > To be fair: this price is not really rare or exclusive. If you check EBay > you'll see that everyone who isn't a small online bike shop is selling

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Justin August
To be fair: this price is not really rare or exclusive. If you check EBay you'll see that everyone who isn't a small online bike shop is selling them for below $50. However, when Riv has stock I shop from them if the price differential is less than 20% or so. But when it's literally 70% off?

[RBW] Re: Identifying a potential 'Rivendell'

2017-02-12 Thread Jim M.
On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 2:02:34 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It's a RamboNOT ;-) How about Ram-boo-nay? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Rivsters Rock

2017-02-12 Thread dstein
That's awesome, I know the singer, Kyle (assuming he's a non-riv rider, or a non-rider)...and probably the other guys but it's been almost 6 years since I lived there and my memory is hazy. Their new record is pretty good from the little bit I've heard. On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 11:37:01

[RBW] Re: Identifying a potential 'Rivendell'

2017-02-12 Thread Belopsky
You all scared alex away :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: Identifying a potential 'Rivendell'

2017-02-12 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a RamboNOT ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Cycles of life

2017-02-12 Thread dougP
This explains a lot. Should be a PSA. dougP On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 12:30:31 AM UTC-8, Ash A wrote: > > -- > > www.freerice.com > play and feed a hungry person > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Identifying a potential 'Rivendell'

2017-02-12 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
It looks like a Blue Bike to me. It may not be a Rivendell, but I suppose we could give it honorary membership; after all, the cables *are* held to the frame with zip ties. On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 12:26:53 PM UTC-5, Alex Clarke wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > I was hoping someone could help

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

2017-02-12 Thread Patrick Moore
I had a pair of the original MUSA knickers, and they were pretty good: perfect weight -- not too heavy, not too light; long enough to stay cinched below knee, but IMO, cut too low in the waist, and had no fly -- I wanna fly, unless I wear tights. On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Ron Mc

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Garth
From my understand large retailers have contracts with shippers. The details are unknown to the public but I don't think it is the same as a per-shipment deal like a small business and the public get. Like some sort of bulk deal agreed upon. So looking at their shipping costs from a

Re: [RBW] Re: My Debate

2017-02-12 Thread RichS
Hi Bill: Bill, thanks for compiling a list of ATL Riv/Rivish riders. I don't know Tony Scott. Which area of ATL does he live in? Best regards, Richard On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 1:37:06 AM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA wrote: > > Hi Rich, > > I'm attempting to compile a list of RBW/iBob

[RBW] FS: NIB SP PV-8 dynamo hub, 36H, red: $95 shipped

2017-02-12 Thread Anton Tutter
I'm offering a NIB SP PV-8 dynamo hub for $95 shipped CONUS-- 30% off the retail price of $130. This unit was shipped to a customer but was the wrong model, so it got returned to me after he received the correct one. I don't normally keep stock so I'd rather offer it to the list than pay to

[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Edwin W
I like the idea of "if you heard about it from Riv and they sell it, buy it from them as a courtesy." The (usually small) increase in price is worth the mountains of advice I have received from them and you all. "Tuition comes in many forms," as my friend's dad says. I guess they have to limit

[RBW] Rivsters Rock

2017-02-12 Thread Edwin W
Caught a few songs from the band

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

2017-02-12 Thread Ron Mc
I'm not going to compare them to MUSA, because MUSA are perfect in my book. . I'll compare them to the Garneau, which don't stay below your knee. The knee gusset in the Garneau is comfortable, but it actually causes them to ride up , and the short velcro strap on the Garneau won't seal the

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Mark: do you mean our subsidized roads and motor vehicle infrastructure, or do you go further than this? I'm curious how far non-transportation money helps pay for transportation. On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:59 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

2017-02-12 Thread Patrick Moore
That would also be my question. I just took a pair of wool dress pants to the tailor yesterday to be cut to knicker length, and for me, knicker length is long enough so that when I raise my knee above my waist, the hem can be cinched tightly just below the knee and just begin to bind. I suppose

[RBW] PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh, I forgot to mention the cheapy pedals needed to be black to match the not-one-ounce-of-silver motif of my new Haibike. Normally I would just grab RMX pedals from Riv, which would have been the 7th or 8th time. RBW probably has a separate column in my Purchase History just for MKS RMX ;-)

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

2017-02-12 Thread Patrick Shea
How is the sizing? I have some MUSA large pants and they are perfect. The inseam sounds out of proportion to the waist sizing. Cheers, Patrick On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 9:55 AM, John Hawrylak wrote: > Ron > > Does the Karpos knickers remain below your knee when

Re: [RBW] real cyclists ride steel

2017-02-12 Thread Steven Sweedler
Mentioning Neil Peart, he has written two very enjoyable touring books, The Masked Rider, about a bicycle tour in West Africa, and The Ghost Rider, about a solo motorcycle tour in western North America: Alaska, Canada, USA and Mexico. Steve Campeche, Mexico On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:56 AM

[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread drew
In principle and theory I understand the argument against big discount sites sweeping the legs of the little guy. In practice in this group, I tend to disagree with the argument. i went from a 1 rivendell home when I joined the list, to a 4 rivendell home (2 new 2 used). I blame you guys. All

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

2017-02-12 Thread John Hawrylak
Ron Does the Karpos knickers remain below your knee when riding?? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:31:18 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > I have a review on Karpos knickers, which I bought from Holland. Sat in > customs for 3 weeks, but finally arrived this week. > I

[RBW] PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Joe Bernard
I posted a response to this last night, but a missing word really screwed up the final sentence. Trying again: I don't feel comfortable finding a better deal on this list for something Riv sells (referring to new products from online sellers). I already bought VP-001 pedals from Riv a couple

[RBW] Re: bar height

2017-02-12 Thread Don Compton
They're set 1cm above the saddle. Also, the bars are Soma Highway One's. Short reach and very shallow drop. On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 10:05:24 PM UTC-8, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Don > > How much further are your bars above the saddle?? I have my bars 15mm > above the saddle. > > John

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1997 57cm Rivendell Road, Waterford-built; $1500 OBO

2017-02-12 Thread Bill M.
On my Road Std., 28 mm Roly Poly's were a tight fit with plastic fenders, and 32's were a tight fit without fenders. Short reach brakes are pretty limiting. Bill Stockton, CA On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:26:48 AM UTC-8, Todd Fahrner wrote: > > Eh, looking again, I think 32 with fender

[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Daniel D.
For the past month. I've had a spending freeze on non-essentials. No big reason, just on a whim. Like going on a cleanse for my wallet. These pedals are testing my resolve. But pedals are consumables right?:p -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

2017-02-12 Thread Ron Mc
here's the link for the Karpos knickers https://www.trekkinn.com/outdoor-mountain/karpos-casatsch-baggy-3-4/137009/p_post=542306_1_null=eng=210 On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 9:31:18 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > I have a review on Karpos knickers, which I bought from Holland. Sat in > customs

Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

2017-02-12 Thread Ron Mc
I have a review on Karpos knickers, which I bought from Holland. Sat in customs for 3 weeks, but finally arrived this week. I tried some Garneau knickers which are good, but these are much better. They feel tight when you put them on, then they disappear.. They stretch everywhere really.

[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yes, but that dumping is part and parcel of the current economic system. On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:15:57 AM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote: > > Quick clarification on my post, I have nothing against > competition...online or otherwise. It's mainly the practice of

[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Quick clarification on my post, I have nothing against competition...online or otherwise. It's mainly the practice of dumping large volumes of goods into the market at unhealthy/unsustainable prices (below even distributor pricing). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I think there is a point to this, but it can be a gray area. Technically, Rivendell is mainly an online seller, meaning they are theoretically taking sales away from my local shop. However, this mostly remains in the theoretical realm, for mostly obvious reasons. On the other hand, Amazon is

[RBW] PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
We love these pedals and spec them on a lot of customer bikes. For the handy tinkerer, they can be rehab'd inexpensively with a rebuild kit. Calling out my obvious bias on the topic.Large volume online blowouts like this have a real effect on small businesses. It's undeniably

Re: [RBW] Re: My Debate

2017-02-12 Thread Fullylugged
I live near Montgomery, AL but every other week work in Cedartown with a Rambouillet packed in the car. I ride a couple of nights after work, usually solo, but sometimes with the Rome Rides A Bike gang. Give a shout anytime you want to set something steel framed up! -- You received this

[RBW] real cyclists ride steel

2017-02-12 Thread Fullylugged
The Harley folks were indeed very personable. One is a singer in a local band and saw the "RUSH" jersey one of our group had on. They spent several minutes trying to beat each other at a pick-up game of Rush trivia. "What song was written for Neil Peart to try out for the band on?" and etc.

[RBW] real cyclists ride steel

2017-02-12 Thread Fullylugged
Thanks Ian. The jersey is a wool blend MTB jersey with a single zipper rear pocket, by Canari. It is very comfortable. I'm sure I found it on Ebay. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] real cyclists ride steel

2017-02-12 Thread Fullylugged
Thanks Patrick. The bike is a nice old Tange tubed Japanese crit racer for pre-conglomerate Nashbar that has been converted to 650B. After a respray, it got an "Old Man Peterson's Ferrous Velocipedes" seat tube decal, and so also the name, "Ferrous Beuller." -- You received this message

[RBW] real cyclists ride steel

2017-02-12 Thread Garth
Yep... people are people everywhere, regardless of appearences. I have had wonderful conversations with motorcyclists while riding, even whole packs of them. People just like being acknowledged, it's quite simple. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] PSA: VP Pedals on sale

2017-02-12 Thread Garth
Fwiw, I have been reading Riv stuff since the very late 90's and I cannot recall a year in which their budget was not discussed in some way. Every business likely has such discussions in some form or fashion about budget whether private or public. Regardless, here they are today 2017, so

[RBW] Cycles of life

2017-02-12 Thread Ashwath Akirekadu
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