[RBW] Re: My Rosco Road Fatty build

[Gabriel Bruguier]

Thank you all for the kind words and the welcomes!  

Patrick asked about the st and tt: the measurements are 58cm and 57.5cm 
respectively.  Also, I took a look at the Compass tires.  Very tempting. 
 One Atala photo below.

EasyRider asked if I had chain drop issues.  I have not.  I have two other 
bikes set up with 1x drivetrains, all with Sugino chainrings, and haven't 
had dropping with them, either.  The rings aren't ramped or pinned, so I 
think that contributes to their chain retention.  And I do plenty of curb 
jumping and other riding that jostles them quite a bit.  I've actually 
taken to "jumping" the Riv off curbs when I get the chance, it is a blast 
on those Cazaderos!  



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[RBW] PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Christopher Murray]

I'd guess that price is pretty fair if the bike is like new as described. I 
think it is fair to assume the QB frameset today would be $1300 like the other 
imported, lugged frames (and would be Taiwan built vs Japan built). If it was 
my size and I was looking for that bike I think I'd go for it. I'd hate to lose 
the bike I wanted that's no longer made for $50-100. 

Hopefully it works out for you! Post pics if you get it! 

Cheers!
Chris

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[RBW] PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Andrew Huston]

I made an offer, we'll see. What's the thought on price? Fair considering add 
one? Looks like he shows the original receipt for $1750 in 2008. Seems like a 
great bike either way. 

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[RBW] Re: FS-Joe Appaloosa

[Gossamer]

All: Make me a reasonable offer. The longer I have this the longer I have 
to wait to get what I really want.


On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 9:16:53 PM UTC-6, Gossamer wrote:
>
> As close to new 58 Appaloosa in blue.
>
> Buil kit from Riv that included Nitto Choco Moose bars and added a read 
> Pletscher Rack with pannier rails, front Mark's rack and Sackville small 
> trunk (gray), kickstand. Currently has a Soma drop bar on it with Dura Ace 
> shifters. Already newbaumed chain stay, both sets of bars and put on a 
> great bell.
>
> Bike has fewer than 100 miles on it. It's closer to new than a demo could 
> be...it's sadly too big despite following the fit guide.
>
> I'd be happy to discuss further if someone would like. I'd like to get 
> $2100 for it since I have more than $2600 into it. It will be 
> professionally shipped and you'll get both bars and all mentioned above. 
> Only thing I would keep are the saddle and the pedals.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Pearl or C17 Carved

[Surlyprof]

Just placed my order for a Rivet Pearl.  Excited to see if it makes it here 
for the weekend.  Thank you for everyone's feedback.  Although I was 
leaning toward Rivet from the start (They were so nice at NAHBS last year), 
it was nice to get some discerning points of view from this group.  I 
really respect and appreciate your opinions.

Thanks everyone.

John

On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 1:25:48 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I need to get a new saddle and want to get one with a cutout.  Narrowed it 
> down to the Rivet Pearl and the Brooks C17 Carved.  Anyone have any 
> thoughts and opinions regarding the pros and cons of these saddles?  Would 
> love to get some personal experiences before I plunk down the cash.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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[RBW] Wool cycling gear for sale

[Anton Tutter]

I'm cleaning out my cycling stash and offering the following wool items 
(and one synthetic item). All are size M. and fit my 6ft/160lb frame well. 
All prices include shipping CONUS. $5 discount for two ore more items.


   - Smartwool short sleeve, half-zip jersery, rear pockets with button 
   closure. Red/burgundy. Medium weight. Excellent condition. One small 
   professional darning repair on back side, you can sort of make it out on 
   the photo of the back. $30
   - Kucharik short sleeve, half-zip jersey, rear pockets. Green. Medium 
   weight. Several small moth holes on back clustered in two areas. Plenty of 
   life left. See photos. $25
   - Kucharik padded shorts. Black. Rear pocket. Some chafing holes on one 
   thigh. Plenty of life left. See photos. $20
   - Pearl Izumi padded synthetic shorts. Very little wear. $15
   

Photo set 
here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/albums/72157677959757464

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[RBW] WTT: My Albatross bar for your Albastache bar

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi all.  I have a new, aluminum, never-mounted Albatross bar that I'd like 
to trade for an Albastache bar.  We each pay our own shipping.  Anyone 
interested?  

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Vs Clem Smith

[Davey Two Shoes]

Thanks guys! appreciate the insight. I think I'll go with the Clem. This 
chapter of N+1 was sparked while riding my mountain bike on the street and 
I thought, wow this would be a nice riding position if it weren't for the 
ungainly mountain bike beneath me. Seems like the Clem hits it better. I 
also think the Appaloosa might jostle with my Salsa Vaya.

On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 11:03:34 AM UTC-4, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone! 
> I'm new here, but my love of Rivendells is not!
> I'm getting ready to get my first Riv and its likely to be a Clemy or an 
> Appaloosa. I have ridden a Clem and I enjoyed it quite a bit, I have not 
> rode an Appaloosa. Lugwork and aesthetics aside what are the real 
> differences between the two bikes? They seem pretty similar to each other 
> with their long geometry and wheel configurations. I understand the Clem is 
> meant to be more of an everyday commuter and the Appaloosa more of a 
> tourer, but is this just waxing poetic? What I'm really asking about, I 
> guess, is the difference in ride character between the two bikes, or are 
> they akin to an entry level vs fully loaded version of the same vehicle.
>
> Thanks guys!
> Dave
>

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[RBW] PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Belopsky]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Quickbeam-56cm-practilly-new-/112332803131?&_trksid=p2056016.m2516.l5255

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Re: [RBW] Is it possible to 'lengthen' cable housing?

[Scott Blouke]

I think a lot of people stick with bars they aren't the happiest with 
longer than they want because of the cost involved with swapping them out. 
 Housing/Cable/Grips/Tape not just the bars.
I just glued grips on a bar and I really want to slip a 8 speed thumb 
shifter on replacing a downtube shifter but i don't want to buy new 
grips...  Ughhh its always something.

You could get new cables because they probably won't be long enough and try 
blakclouds ferrule to ferrule temporary fix maybe find a spacer at home 
depot/lowes that the ferrules will just fit into and then heat shrink it in 
that spot so the junction didn't kink under load...


On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 12:15:18 PM UTC-7, Ash A wrote:
>
> Foks, 
>
> Much appreciate the info.
>
> The LBS said replacing the housing is the only option.  Now I know I'm not 
> the only one with the crazy idea of adding an extra piece of cable hosing. 
>  That said, perhaps the LBS doesn't see a great value in doing the 
> extension by means of inline adjusters.  Because 4 adjusters cost almost 
> same as new cable set.
>
> Just learned bike part lingo for the 'coupling' in question is 'junction 
> ferrule'.  They are buck or two cheaper than barrel adjusters. I'm going 
> with barrel adjusters because they are better value than junction ferrules.
>
> I was a hoping for a cheap sturdy piece plastic pipe that you could slide 
> two pieces of cables housings into.
>
>
>
> On Monday, 13 March 2017 17:46:28 UTC-7, Andrew Letton wrote:
>>
>> They make in-line cable adjusters that would probably do the trick for 
>> you. Something like these:
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=in-line+cable+adjusters
>>
>> HTH,
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Ash A 
>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch  
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:43 AM
>> *Subject:* [RBW] Is it possible to 'lengthen' cable housing?
>>
>>
>> I want to raise the handlebar a bit on a road bike own.  This would 
>> require longer cables.  The bike is relatively new, so I don't feel like 
>> unwrapping the handlebar tape.  Want to keep the 'original' finish for a 
>> little while.  
>>
>> I'm thinking of adding a small piece of cable housing at the end of 
>> housings attached to the handlebar. Is there any problem with this hack? 
>>  Also, is there any product (like a coupling) out there that can close the 
>> gap that will exist when I add the extra piece.
>>
>> Thanks! 
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Re: [RBW] Something French

[RichS]

Last time I was in Paris it was August:(! Was hoping to go to the Singer 
shop. Alas, they were closed. Hopefully another time. 

Can you compare the ride/handling of the Singer with the Riv Road you're 
selling? Your Singer is gorgeous by the way!

Kind regards,
Richard

On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 11:08:45 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> There are people out there asking crazy prices for them.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
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>
> On Mar 13, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Belopsky > 
> wrote:
>
> There was a Singer in my size for sale in California, I think it was..but 
> I believe the asking price was $6k
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[RBW] Re: New (to me) Cheviot

[Ryan Fleming]

Yes please!

On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 4:58:28 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Ride report?   Looks great standing still. 

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Re: [RBW] Is it possible to 'lengthen' cable housing?

[Ash A]

Fantastic idea.  Just this morning I was thinking of trying a piece of drip 
irrigation pipe :)



On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 13:31:29 UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> If you have a well-stocked hardware store near you, check their supply of 
> small items. They may have some sort of a plastic or brass bushing that you 
> could use. Surprising what you can find if you look into all those parts 
> drawers.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Mar 14, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Ash A > 
> wrote:
>
> Foks, 
>
> Much appreciate the info.
>
> The LBS said replacing the housing is the only option.  Now I know I'm not 
> the only one with the crazy idea of adding an extra piece of cable hosing. 
>  That said, perhaps the LBS doesn't see a great value in doing the 
> extension by means of inline adjusters.  Because 4 adjusters cost almost 
> same as new cable set.
>
> Just learned bike part lingo for the 'coupling' in question is 'junction 
> ferrule'.  They are buck or two cheaper than barrel adjusters. I'm going 
> with barrel adjusters because they are better value than junction ferrules.
>
> I was a hoping for a cheap sturdy piece plastic pipe that you could slide 
> two pieces of cables housings into.
>
>
>
> On Monday, 13 March 2017 17:46:28 UTC-7, Andrew Letton wrote:
>>
>> They make in-line cable adjusters that would probably do the trick for 
>> you. Something like these:
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=in-line+cable+adjusters
>>
>> HTH,
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Ash A 
>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch  
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:43 AM
>> *Subject:* [RBW] Is it possible to 'lengthen' cable housing?
>>
>>
>> I want to raise the handlebar a bit on a road bike own.  This would 
>> require longer cables.  The bike is relatively new, so I don't feel like 
>> unwrapping the handlebar tape.  Want to keep the 'original' finish for a 
>> little while.  
>>
>> I'm thinking of adding a small piece of cable housing at the end of 
>> housings attached to the handlebar. Is there any problem with this hack? 
>>  Also, is there any product (like a coupling) out there that can close the 
>> gap that will exist when I add the extra piece.
>>
>> Thanks! 
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Re: [RBW] Is it possible to 'lengthen' cable housing?

[Eric Norris]

If you have a well-stocked hardware store near you, check their supply of small 
items. They may have some sort of a plastic or brass bushing that you could 
use. Surprising what you can find if you look into all those parts drawers.

--Eric Norris
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@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Mar 14, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Ash A  wrote:
> 
> Foks, 
> 
> Much appreciate the info.
> 
> The LBS said replacing the housing is the only option.  Now I know I'm not 
> the only one with the crazy idea of adding an extra piece of cable hosing.  
> That said, perhaps the LBS doesn't see a great value in doing the extension 
> by means of inline adjusters.  Because 4 adjusters cost almost same as new 
> cable set.
> 
> Just learned bike part lingo for the 'coupling' in question is 'junction 
> ferrule'.  They are buck or two cheaper than barrel adjusters. I'm going with 
> barrel adjusters because they are better value than junction ferrules.
> 
> I was a hoping for a cheap sturdy piece plastic pipe that you could slide two 
> pieces of cables housings into.
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, 13 March 2017 17:46:28 UTC-7, Andrew Letton wrote:
> They make in-line cable adjusters that would probably do the trick for you. 
> Something like these:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=in-line+cable+adjusters
>  
> 
> 
> HTH,
> Andrew
> 
> 
> From: Ash A >
> To: RBW Owners Bunch > 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:43 AM
> Subject: [RBW] Is it possible to 'lengthen' cable housing?
> 
> 
> I want to raise the handlebar a bit on a road bike own.  This would require 
> longer cables.  The bike is relatively new, so I don't feel like unwrapping 
> the handlebar tape.  Want to keep the 'original' finish for a little while.  
> 
> I'm thinking of adding a small piece of cable housing at the end of housings 
> attached to the handlebar. Is there any problem with this hack?  Also, is 
> there any product (like a coupling) out there that can close the gap that 
> will exist when I add the extra piece.
> 
> Thanks! 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 650b rim brake wheelset / SON28, White Ind, Velocity / $700

[Patch T]

> SOLD! thanks Bunch
>

Love
Patch 

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[RBW] Re: Photos of new silver Joe Appaloosa color

[Ash A]

Thank you Stuart!!



On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 08:00:45 UTC-7, Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
>
> Ash, looks like these are the levers that come with the stock build, some 
> Tektro brand lever. From the photo it looks like they are installed on the 
> opposite sides of the bars so the logos are on the inside of the 
> handlebars. 
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 7:51:07 PM UTC-5, Ash A wrote:
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know what make/model brake levers on that fully assembled 
>> Appaloosa?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 11 March 2017 18:14:44 UTC-8, Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
>>>
>>> Saw these on Instagram from Blue Lug in Japan. Looks sharp! 
>>>
>>> Source: http://instagram.com/bluelug_kamiuma
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Is it possible to 'lengthen' cable housing?

[Ash A]

Foks, 

Much appreciate the info.

The LBS said replacing the housing is the only option.  Now I know I'm not 
the only one with the crazy idea of adding an extra piece of cable hosing. 
 That said, perhaps the LBS doesn't see a great value in doing the 
extension by means of inline adjusters.  Because 4 adjusters cost almost 
same as new cable set.

Just learned bike part lingo for the 'coupling' in question is 'junction 
ferrule'.  They are buck or two cheaper than barrel adjusters. I'm going 
with barrel adjusters because they are better value than junction ferrules.

I was a hoping for a cheap sturdy piece plastic pipe that you could slide 
two pieces of cables housings into.



On Monday, 13 March 2017 17:46:28 UTC-7, Andrew Letton wrote:
>
> They make in-line cable adjusters that would probably do the trick for 
> you. Something like these:
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=in-line+cable+adjusters
>
> HTH,
> Andrew
>
>
> --
> *From:* Ash A >
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch > 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:43 AM
> *Subject:* [RBW] Is it possible to 'lengthen' cable housing?
>
>
> I want to raise the handlebar a bit on a road bike own.  This would 
> require longer cables.  The bike is relatively new, so I don't feel like 
> unwrapping the handlebar tape.  Want to keep the 'original' finish for a 
> little while.  
>
> I'm thinking of adding a small piece of cable housing at the end of 
> housings attached to the handlebar. Is there any problem with this hack? 
>  Also, is there any product (like a coupling) out there that can close the 
> gap that will exist when I add the extra piece.
>
> Thanks! 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 650b rim brake wheelset / SON28, White Ind, Velocity / $700

[Patch T]

To answer your question Ian, I had them on a Trek 850, a 26" mtn bike from 
1985, converted with Paul Motolites.

Wayne is right, these would be great. The rear hub spacing is 135mm on the 
wheelset, so will fit the Atlantis. Beyond that, I can't think of any other 
specs you should be concerned with.

Patch

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[RBW] Re: Decisions, Decisions... Too few? Too many? Just right??

[Pondero]

Just chiming in to second the book recommendation. "The Paradox of Choice" 
is (in my opinion) a great one.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: When it might help not to be so light

[BenG]

Wasn't that last bit a port-a-jon sliding past and tipping over? Nightmare 
scenario.

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[RBW] Re: Decisions, Decisions... Too few? Too many? Just right??

[Bob Lovejoy]

Thanks Dave and all who have contributed.  I will go find that book!  I 
have to laugh when I realize how much thinking and information I have to 
catch up on.  It seems I should get out more... :>)

I do think people walk into a bike shop (maybe), sometimes the biggest they 
can find *because* of the perceived choices, and are in the end, totally 
confused.  Even in a small shop, they know of varieties they have read or 
heard about, and so they ask and the sales person goes through at least 
some of the buzz types of bikes.  And since buying a bike is actually a big 
decision for most, the people walk away to think and research.  They go 
home to do that research, read about the 100's (?), of varieties, 
 categories, brands, philosophies... then do nothing. They are officially 
confused, tired and afraid of making the wrong decision.  So they decide to 
decide later, or easier yet, decide to not decide at all.  

I suppose I am indeed the luddite, or maybe not, but I do admit to hating 
seeing people not do something, not have fun, not take a chance, not 
live(!), because they are confused or afraid.  Time to commit I think, time 
to try new things, time to smile a bit more, experiment, be brave.

I will go find that book, and others...  I have some catching up to do!

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL




On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 9:59:49 AM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>
> Barry Schwartz wrote a book on this subject, titled "The Paradox of 
> Choice:  Why More is Less."  It's excellent, and has changed my approach to 
> decision-making regarding purchases.  It's quite readable and entertaining, 
> and I highly recommend it.  
>

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[RBW] FS: Bosco bullmoose

[Philip Kim]

selling bosco bullmoose 54cm, filet brazed version. $125 plus shipping. 


thanks,

Phil in DC

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Re: [RBW] Decisions, Decisions... Too few? Too many? Just right??

[Jim Bronson]

To me an e-mountain bike should be subject to the same regulations as
motorcycles off road.  Less is more.  $0.02.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> This is indeed an interesting subject that has been covered by many
> writers. I listened to an NPR story yesterday in which Malcolm Gladwell was
> talking about choices and the problems that come with having too many.
>
> Trader Joes is a good example of a store offering *less* choice but
> selling *more*. I would argue that Rivendell and Rivelo are as well—they
> have far fewer items than a typical bike shop, but what they do have is
> carefully curated.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Mar 13, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Bob Lovejoy  wrote:
>
> Sorry if this would seem to be off topic, though hopefully it is not, but
> Grant, in another post stated, and I hesitate to quote but it was a point I
> totally agree with and think about.
>
> "...The bike MARKET is super crowded, and it leads to dozens of categories
> and aberants and variety...and on one hand it's cool that bikes really can
> travel motorlessly over more terrain--that's one of the good things,
> although I'm not talking about eFat bikes penetrating the wilderness when i
> say "good"--but it also leads to overspecialization with too many
> categories, and then new riders go shopping and ask for bikes by category
> and not by this is how I'm gonna use it"
>
>
> Not that I am anything more than a participant and supporter in the world
> of bikes, but it makes me a little crazy when I hear of sagging bike sales,
> at least here in the U.S., maybe worldwide.  Bikes sales should be
> growing!  And the more bikes out there, the better the world might be...
>
> Anyway, I was just listening to a Ted Talks podcast, maybe the latest (
> http://www.npr.org/programs/ted-radio-hour/519264798/
> decisions-decisions-decisions ) and a researcher, Sheena Iyengar, was
> talking about an experiment she did with displaying and selling jars of jam
> at a fancy grocery.
>
> To cut it short, they displayed 24 different jars of jam for sampling and
> selling... 60% of the people stopped to look and sample but only 3% (of the
> 60%) bought.
> When they displayed only 6 different jars of jam, only 40% of the people
> stopped, but 30% (of the 40%) bought.
>
> Not that there are any great answers to the dilemma, but I do believe the
> bike industry has, in a race to the end, fallen into the trap.  I tell
> people these days, trying to sound enthusiastic and positive, that there
> are now bikes for almost every conceivable circumstance.  And there is no
> argument (from me) that that is a truly bad thing.  Still, Sheena calls it
> a "choice overload problem" and I think that's a very real effect.
>
> With that, I do think Rivendell has approached the problem well!  They
> might have bikes that overlap in function but they span different price
> ranges and, in this world, that is a necessity.  And each and every one of
> the bikes is designed to be ridden, enjoyed, bring a smile.
>
> I have not listened to the entire podcast just yet, and don't know if it's
> fully recommended, but that part of the discussion (16:00-18:00 in) made me
> think.
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Decisions, Decisions... Too few? Too many? Just right??

[Eric Norris]

This is indeed an interesting subject that has been covered by many writers. I 
listened to an NPR story yesterday in which Malcolm Gladwell was talking about 
choices and the problems that come with having too many.

Trader Joes is a good example of a store offering *less* choice but selling 
*more*. I would argue that Rivendell and Rivelo are as well—they have far fewer 
items than a typical bike shop, but what they do have is carefully curated.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Mar 13, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Bob Lovejoy  wrote:
> 
> Sorry if this would seem to be off topic, though hopefully it is not, but 
> Grant, in another post stated, and I hesitate to quote but it was a point I 
> totally agree with and think about.
> 
> "...The bike MARKET is super crowded, and it leads to dozens of categories 
> and aberants and variety...and on one hand it's cool that bikes really can 
> travel motorlessly over more terrain--that's one of the good things, although 
> I'm not talking about eFat bikes penetrating the wilderness when i say 
> "good"--but it also leads to overspecialization with too many categories, and 
> then new riders go shopping and ask for bikes by category and not by this is 
> how I'm gonna use it"
> 
> Not that I am anything more than a participant and supporter in the world of 
> bikes, but it makes me a little crazy when I hear of sagging bike sales, at 
> least here in the U.S., maybe worldwide.  Bikes sales should be growing!  And 
> the more bikes out there, the better the world might be... 
> 
> Anyway, I was just listening to a Ted Talks podcast, maybe the latest ( 
> http://www.npr.org/programs/ted-radio-hour/519264798/decisions-decisions-decisions
>  ) and a researcher, Sheena Iyengar, was talking about an experiment she did 
> with displaying and selling jars of jam at a fancy grocery. 
> 
> To cut it short, they displayed 24 different jars of jam for sampling and 
> selling... 60% of the people stopped to look and sample but only 3% (of the 
> 60%) bought.
> When they displayed only 6 different jars of jam, only 40% of the people 
> stopped, but 30% (of the 40%) bought.
> 
> Not that there are any great answers to the dilemma, but I do believe the 
> bike industry has, in a race to the end, fallen into the trap.  I tell people 
> these days, trying to sound enthusiastic and positive, that there are now 
> bikes for almost every conceivable circumstance.  And there is no argument 
> (from me) that that is a truly bad thing.  Still, Sheena calls it a "choice 
> overload problem" and I think that's a very real effect.
> 
> With that, I do think Rivendell has approached the problem well!  They might 
> have bikes that overlap in function but they span different price ranges and, 
> in this world, that is a necessity.  And each and every one of the bikes is 
> designed to be ridden, enjoyed, bring a smile.
> 
> I have not listened to the entire podcast just yet, and don't know if it's 
> fully recommended, but that part of the discussion (16:00-18:00 in) made me 
> think.
> 
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
> 
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Medium Saddlesack Olive Green - $150 shipped

[gordo]

Sold!  Thanks to all who expressed interest.

On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 9:19:10 AM UTC-8, gordo wrote:
>
> Bump - $140 shipped for the medium saddlesack.
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 3:53:58 PM UTC-8, gordo wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> This bag just came through as part of a complete bike purchase.  I use a 
>> small saddlesack daily and do not need the extra capacity.  Some 
>> scuffing/discoloration on the bottom leather (see photos), but otherwise in 
>> very good shape.
>>
>> $150 shipped within the U.S. (Paypal friends & family preferred) or $140 
>> local pick up in San Francisco.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>>
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[RBW] Re: Photos of new silver Joe Appaloosa color

[Stuart Lovinggood]

Ash, looks like these are the levers that come with the stock build, some 
Tektro brand lever. From the photo it looks like they are installed on the 
opposite sides of the bars so the logos are on the inside of the 
handlebars. 

On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 7:51:07 PM UTC-5, Ash A wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know what make/model brake levers on that fully assembled 
> Appaloosa?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 11 March 2017 18:14:44 UTC-8, Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
>>
>> Saw these on Instagram from Blue Lug in Japan. Looks sharp! 
>>
>> Source: http://instagram.com/bluelug_kamiuma
>
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[RBW] Re: Decisions, Decisions... Too few? Too many? Just right??

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Barry Schwartz wrote a book on this subject, titled "The Paradox of Choice: 
 Why More is Less."  It's excellent, and has changed my approach to 
decision-making regarding purchases.  It's quite readable and entertaining, 
and I highly recommend it.  

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[RBW] Re: OT: Update on ECHS Mountain Bike Racing Team (some Riv content, plus begging for donations)

[Bill Lindsay]

One-thousand thank yous to those who could donate.  I'm really grateful.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, March 13, 2017 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Many of you know I'm the volunteer team mechanic for El Cerrito High 
> School Mountain Bike Racing Team.  I have a son at ECHS, but he's a 
> swimmer.  I volunteered for the team almost entirely for me.  So far, it's 
> one of the better things I've done for myself.  We race in the Norcal High 
> School Cycling League, in the Southern Division.  We are one of six D1 
> teams, and by far the smallest.  D1 is dominated by Salinas High School, 
> who regularly field ~40 riders, while we field ~15.  
>
> Last weekend was our second race of the season and our team's best 
> performance ever.  The race course was adjacent to Laguna Seca Raceway in 
> Monterrey, CA.  Our EC Gauchos won three races (JV Boys, JV Girls, and Soph 
> Boys) and we got two second place medals and a fourth.  We placed second in 
> the team competition behind Salinas, but beat both of our East Bay Rivals 
> Berkeley and Albany.  We also hold a strong second place in the season-long 
> team overall competition.  It's a big challenge for our small team because 
> you use your top 8 finishers to make your team score.  When you only field 
> 15 riders, going 8 deep is tough.  
>
> My weekend had several highlights.  I solo-camped out at Laguna Seca 
> Friday night, and the evening was so warm and dry that I didn't even have 
> to use my rainfly.  I enjoyed a very pleasant coffee outside on Saturday 
> morning.  Being on site gave me plenty of time to do a lap on the very 
> challenging race course.  Grant would possibly approve that I underbiked 
> with no shocks, but would undoubtedly disapprove at how much crabon I was 
> running.  Besides personal stuff a couple of our kids dug incredibly deep 
> and had best ever results.  Being around their energy has been a sort of 
> fountain of youth experience for me.  
>
> Sadly, during the offseason, our team trailer was stolen.  So we've been 
> renting a U-Haul for each of these race weekends.  We have an opportunity 
> to buy a used trailer now, but are quite short on funds.  If you feel like 
> helping out a terrific group of kids with ANY amount, please check out our 
> GoFundMe below.  Thanks 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> https://www.gofundme.com/help-echs-mtb-team-replace-trailer
>
>
>

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[RBW] Decisions, Decisions... Too few? Too many? Just right??

[BenG]

Interesting, and thanks, Bob. I visited a local bike shop last night for tuning 
help with an 11-spd drivetrain for my son in law. Taken aback by an e-mountain 
bike display. Discussed e-bikes and progress with a thoughtful senior employee. 
He sees that change will occur, trials will sort errors, and the aging 
generation will be served. I humbly defer to stronger pedalers, but won't be 
happy to get out of the way of an e-bike climbing past me in my 26-34 crawl.

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[RBW] Re: Is it possible to 'lengthen' cable housing?

[blakcloud]

I have done this same thing when I was experimenting with different bars. I 
added a second piece of housing and butted two ferrules together to get the 
length I needed. It worked like a charm and even indexed with no problems. 
When I had it dialed in I replaced them but I had used it for months before 
I did this. 

I used this approach because it was all I had on hand at the time. The 
inline barrel adjusters mentioned here sounds like a great solution.  

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