[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Choco Norm, Nitto F25 Rack, Crust Bikes Rack, Many Stems, Other Misc Items

[adam leibow]

bump, Choco Bars, Crust Rack, and Silver Hupe are SOLD. 

On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:35:00 PM UTC-7, adam leibow wrote:
>
> Hello RBW group, 
>
> Trying to purge some nice things here. Links to pictures or product sites 
> are included for reference/clarity of what's being sold, but are not 
> pictures of the exact item in my possession. See below for more info. 
>
> 1. Nitto F25 rack, some use (steel fillet brazed front rack, google it - 
> it's rare, only place you can find it for sale is bikemania.biz). Rack 
> has been drilled to run a fatter tire - fits on my Cheviot with 700C x 50mm 
> sans fenders -  $150 LINK 
> 
>
> 2. Crust Bikes Rack (brand new, out of box but never used or mounted). 
> $150 LINK 
>
> 3. Rivendell Silver Hupe rear saddle bag support. (fits taller frames, do 
> some research before committing or know you're taking a risk). for 
> reference this works with my 60cm Cheviot, but not my 54cm Hunqapillar. 
> $28. LINK 
> 
>  
> 4. Simworks Little Nick Bar in Silver (steel 25.4 clamp MTB / flat bar 
> made by Nitto). Some scuffs from multiple installations -  $33 LINK 
> 
>
> 5. 650Bx2.1" WTB Nano Set of (2) tires, <30 miles barely used, wire bead. 
> $33 for the set. 
>
> 6. Thomson X2 stem, (120mm black 10degree) good condition - $58
>
> 7. Rivendell Nitto HiRiser stem, threadless, installed once or twice but 
> never ridden. $58 LINK 
> 
>
> 8. Velo Orange 110 threadless polished silver aluminum stem, 17degree 
> rise, 26.0 bar clamp, for 1-1/8" steerers - $28 LINK 
> 
>
> 9. Syntace 110 threadless aluminum stem, black, 10degree rise, 25.4 bar 
> clamp, for 1-1/8" steerers - $28 LINK 
> 
>
> 10. Roadrunner Bags Burrito Handlebar Bag - Highlighter yellow cordura, 
> kinda dirty/could use a wash. - $18 LINK 
> 
>
> 11. Nitto Choco Norm Handlebars Heat treated aluminum, 54cm wide. 
> Installed and ridden around the block a few times. otherwise new. $67
>
> 12. Salsa Quill Stem - cool lookin vintage mtb style. 130mm LONG - $40 
> LINK 
>
> Prices do NOT include PayPal fees. So it's your choice whether you want to 
> do F or pay a few extra bucks. I promise that you will receive your item 
> as described if you do F I am an experienced seller of bike parts and 
> accessories and I know several people on this group personally who can 
> vouch for me. 
>
> Prices include shipping west of the Mississippi. Add $7 for larger items 
> (like racks and handlebars) for EAST of the Mississippi. 
>
> I'll take $5-15 off the price (depending on size of item) for local pickup 
> in SF, CA. 
>
> Please text me @ 310 963 6959 for pics if you are interested in a 
> particular item. I would take pics of all items except it's 90~ish degrees 
> here which is at least 30degrees too hot for me, and the last thing I want 
> to do is move my body. 
>
> thanks for looking!
>
> Adam 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Shimano FC-6206 triple crankset 170mm, drive train components

[Gabriel Hargrove]

Looking for a Shimano triple FC-6206 Crankset 170mm in good condition, as 
well as other Shimano Deer head components for a 3x9 speed Riv Atlantis 
build. Opinions and ruminations on touring drive trains will also be be 
entertained.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Knobbie tire fender challenge

[Brian Campbell]

Maybe something like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mountain-Bike-Clip-On-Fender-Mud-Guard-Set-Front-Rear-29er-27-5-29-650B-/192164719696?hash=item2cbde8ec50:g:O20AAOSwPhdVUQ-o

Possibly drill holes in it and zip tie it to the inside of the rear rack 
(no stays) with an odl inner tube between= the the fender and attachment 
points?

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 7:44:45 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Oh, I understand it gives more coverage in the front. I'm good there. And 
> I've tried that style of rear and it doesn't work for me. Thanks again!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 5:33:41 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I think mine, which actually mounts under the crown and fits over the 
>> tire and turns with it, would give you more coverage; you could combine it 
>> with the dt mounted one.
>>
>> The rear straps to the seatpost and keeps the stuff off your saddle and 
>> back.
>>
>> Yours if you want them, but certainly no obligation.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Patrick! Actually, that gives roughly the coverage I have, so 
>>> I'll pass, with gratitude for the offer.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Steven. I've had similar. Full fenders like that work great 
>>> until the singletrack or the uber sloppy, then the detrius from the 
>>> knobbies is both noisy and cloggy, at least for me.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 12:03:37 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I’ve yet to find a good answer to the challenge of a rear fender that 
 is 1) effective; 2) beefy; 3) quiet; 4) allows duff and twigs and mud and 
 snow to flow through. This is with my Hunqapillar, 2.1” Racing Ralphs on 
 all terrains and all weathers.

 I’m not looking for for perfect protection, but to protect against 
 rooster tail at 20-35mph in the slop.

 I use the SKS Mud-X downtube fender for the front. It doesn’t keep my 
 front dry or drive train and feet clean, but it does keep 99% of the mud 
 off my face and glasses.  
 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X5ZK6Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8=1
   

 Until today, I’d been using a Woody fender Chop Chort (with added stays 
 for rigidity) on the rear. The stay died to a twig as I LCG’d. The ride 
 home was much quieter — the sound I’d been puzzling over for the past 
 month 
 gone despite all hardware being tight. Being shorter than a full rear 
 fender it only marginally works better against rooster tail, so minimal 
 benefit vs the toursacks on the rear rack being a partial fender.
 https://www.woodysfenders.com/category-s/116.htm

 So, my plan is to use the toursacks as my fender and call that as good 
 as I’ll get unless something you all know of fits the bill. Ideas?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 www.CredoFamily.org
 www.MindYourHeadCoop.org


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Many Parts

[Keith Muller]

The XTR drivetrain is 11-speed.  Sorry I missed that.

Keith

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Daniel Jackson  
> wrote:
> 
> XTR drivetrain is 11 speed, yes?
> 
>> On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 2:45:39 PM UTC-4, Keith Muller wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> Clearing out my extra parts.  PM me with any questions.  All prices include 
>> shipping.  See my google drive folder for pics.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-2NeF-6iHHVUFVaWkJKdHhWWUk
>> 
>> Paul Comp Canti-levers, Black, used but good shape - $90
>> 
>> Brooks B17 Titanium, Honey Brown, nicely broken in, great shape - $160
>> 
>> Brooks B67 Aged, used but great shape - $90
>> 
>> B IQ-X Dynamo Light, Silver, includes original mount and extra wires - $100
>> 
>> Shimano CX70 brakeset, Fr & Rr, includes new pads - $60
>> 
>> Shimano XTR M9000 drivetrain, includes Shifter, Crankset, chain, cassette, 
>> rear derailleur.  Crank 175mm w/ wolftooth 36T n/w ring.  XT Cassette is 
>> 11-42T.  Drivetrain was used about 600 miles.  No BB included. $420
>> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Many Parts

[Daniel Jackson]

XTR drivetrain is 11 speed, yes?

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 2:45:39 PM UTC-4, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> Clearing out my extra parts.  PM me with any questions.  All prices 
> include shipping.  See my google drive folder for pics.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-2NeF-6iHHVUFVaWkJKdHhWWUk
>
> Paul Comp Canti-levers, Black, used but good shape - $90
>
> Brooks B17 Titanium, Honey Brown, nicely broken in, great shape - $160
>
> Brooks B67 Aged, used but great shape - $90
>
> B IQ-X Dynamo Light, Silver, includes original mount and extra wires - 
> $100
>
> Shimano CX70 brakeset, Fr & Rr, includes new pads - $60
>
> Shimano XTR M9000 drivetrain, includes Shifter, Crankset, chain, cassette, 
> rear derailleur.  Crank 175mm w/ wolftooth 36T n/w ring.  XT Cassette is 
> 11-42T.  Drivetrain was used about 600 miles.  No BB included. $420
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Many Parts

[Keith Muller]

PayPal is trenne...@hotmail.com

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Jay Connolly  wrote:
> 
> Hey, Keith...I'll take the B67.
> 
>> On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 11:45:39 AM UTC-7, Keith Muller wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Clearing out my extra parts.  PM me with any questions.  All prices include 
>> shipping.  See my google drive folder for pics.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-2NeF-6iHHVUFVaWkJKdHhWWUk
>> 
>> Paul Comp Canti-levers, Black, used but good shape - $90
>> 
>> Brooks B17 Titanium, Honey Brown, nicely broken in, great shape - $160
>> 
>> Brooks B67 Aged, used but great shape - $90
>> 
>> B IQ-X Dynamo Light, Silver, includes original mount and extra wires - $100
>> 
>> Shimano CX70 brakeset, Fr & Rr, includes new pads - $60
>> 
>> Shimano XTR M9000 drivetrain, includes Shifter, Crankset, chain, cassette, 
>> rear derailleur.  Crank 175mm w/ wolftooth 36T n/w ring.  XT Cassette is 
>> 11-42T.  Drivetrain was used about 600 miles.  No BB included. $420
> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Many Parts

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Jay, if the cx brakes are available I would like them. Trying to pm, 
does not always work

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 4:10:57 PM UTC-4, Jay Connolly wrote:
>
> Hey, Keith...I'll take the B67.
>
> On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 11:45:39 AM UTC-7, Keith Muller wrote:
> > Hey all,
> > 
> > Clearing out my extra parts.  PM me with any questions.  All prices 
> include shipping.  See my google drive folder for pics.
> > 
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-2NeF-6iHHVUFVaWkJKdHhWWUk
> > 
> > Paul Comp Canti-levers, Black, used but good shape - $90
> > 
> > Brooks B17 Titanium, Honey Brown, nicely broken in, great shape - $160
> > 
> > Brooks B67 Aged, used but great shape - $90
> > 
> > B IQ-X Dynamo Light, Silver, includes original mount and extra wires - 
> $100
> > 
> > Shimano CX70 brakeset, Fr & Rr, includes new pads - $60
> > 
> > Shimano XTR M9000 drivetrain, includes Shifter, Crankset, chain, 
> cassette, rear derailleur.  Crank 175mm w/ wolftooth 36T n/w ring.  XT 
> Cassette is 11-42T.  Drivetrain was used about 600 miles.  No BB included. 
> $420
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Many Parts

[Jay Connolly]

Hey, Keith...I'll take the B67.

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 11:45:39 AM UTC-7, Keith Muller wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> Clearing out my extra parts.  PM me with any questions.  All prices include 
> shipping.  See my google drive folder for pics.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-2NeF-6iHHVUFVaWkJKdHhWWUk
> 
> Paul Comp Canti-levers, Black, used but good shape - $90
> 
> Brooks B17 Titanium, Honey Brown, nicely broken in, great shape - $160
> 
> Brooks B67 Aged, used but great shape - $90
> 
> B IQ-X Dynamo Light, Silver, includes original mount and extra wires - $100
> 
> Shimano CX70 brakeset, Fr & Rr, includes new pads - $60
> 
> Shimano XTR M9000 drivetrain, includes Shifter, Crankset, chain, cassette, 
> rear derailleur.  Crank 175mm w/ wolftooth 36T n/w ring.  XT Cassette is 
> 11-42T.  Drivetrain was used about 600 miles.  No BB included. $420

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[RBW] Re: FS Kalloy upshot high rise stem

[Bruce Smitham]

The stem is sold

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 2:39:42 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> For sale Kalloy Ultralite Upshot 1 1/8" threadless stem (high rise) 35 
> degrees with 31.8 clamp and 90mm length in black & excellent condition $15 
> CONUS
>
> Thx,
>
> Bruce in San Diego
>

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[RBW] FS: Many Parts

[Keith Muller]

Hey all,

Clearing out my extra parts.  PM me with any questions.  All prices include 
shipping.  See my google drive folder for pics.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-2NeF-6iHHVUFVaWkJKdHhWWUk

Paul Comp Canti-levers, Black, used but good shape - $90

Brooks B17 Titanium, Honey Brown, nicely broken in, great shape - $160

Brooks B67 Aged, used but great shape - $90

B IQ-X Dynamo Light, Silver, includes original mount and extra wires - $100

Shimano CX70 brakeset, Fr & Rr, includes new pads - $60

Shimano XTR M9000 drivetrain, includes Shifter, Crankset, chain, cassette, rear 
derailleur.  Crank 175mm w/ wolftooth 36T n/w ring.  XT Cassette is 11-42T.  
Drivetrain was used about 600 miles.  No BB included. $420

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[RBW] Re: FS Shimano XT SM-CRM80 M8000 Dyna-Sys 11 speed 32T chainring

[Bruce Smitham]

The chainring is sold

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 2:32:26 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> For sale Shimano XT SM-CRM80 M8000 Dyna-Sys 11 speed 32T chainring in 
> excellent condition $30 plus shipping CONUS
>
> Thx,
>
> Bruce in San Diego
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Bosco, Choco, or Albatross bars

[Joe Bernard]

Correctomundo, Bill. I "sized up" to a 52cm Clem L for the long (virtual) 
toptube and still had to lop 2 inches off the Boscos. These bars are best for 
towniefying old mountain bikes with "NORBA geometry": really long toptubes 
connected to short headtubes.  

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[RBW] Re: WTB Bosco, Choco, or Albatross bars

[Bill Lindsay]

Bosco's do reach WAY up but they also reach WAY back.  If a bike is already 
small for you might have your knees bumping your hands with Boscos.  Since 
you are just experimenting, have fun with it.  Generally, when I look for a 
Bosco bike, I look to start with a bike that would be too big for me with 
any other bar.  

Bill

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 11:05:39 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> I'm open to trying any of them; candidate bikes are my 64cm Sam H, and my 
> old 59cm Centurion touring bike that's a little on the short side for me 
> (thinking the Bosco might be particularly good here). 

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[RBW] WTB Bosco, Choco, or Albatross bars

[Reid Echols]

I'm open to trying any of them; candidate bikes are my 64cm Sam H, and my old 
59cm Centurion touring bike that's a little on the short side for me (thinking 
the Bosco might be particularly good here). 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

[Joe Bernard]

Haibike makes hi-step and low-step versions of their ebikes, which correlate 
well to the H and L designations Riv uses for the Clem. This seems a much 
simpler descriptor than trying to explain when a step-through is not a mixte 
and vice-versa.

Btw, the BLUG announced that RBW would be closed for a bit for "the 
occultation". Nice work, Bill!

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[RBW] Re: 2.35 inch tires on Atlas rims

[iamkeith]

"It is kinda funny though how one day they recommend this, then another day 
they recommend that, and every day is different !  Thank goodness there is only 
one this and one that and one day , it keeps things looking "normal" !  "

I think that the big thing that's changed is the quality and suppleness of tire 
casings.  In the 90s when all mtb rims were skinny, tires were all relatively 
stiff and meant to be run at higher pressures (at least all the ones i could 
afford, anyway).  And, to a lesser extent, the rise of tubeless technology.  To 
take full advantage of newer / better tires, it is necessary to use lower 
pressures which, in turn, requires an adequately wide rim.

Thats my experience anyway.  I also think that this is an area where 
riders/enthusiasts and a handful of progressive manufacturers 
(compass/panaracer, schwalbe, surly/inova, etc.) are WAY ahead of the rim 
manufacturers in figuring this out and in driving the market and technology.  
I'd trust real-world annecdotal evidence way more than a corporate endineer's 
chart.

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[RBW] Re: Cheviotlantis

[sameness]

(More than a) couple of questions?

WHEELS: Dynamo model? Rear hub model? Rim model? Spoke count front and rear?

CRANKSET: Crank length? Teeth count on chainrings?

REAR DERAILLEUR: Model?

SEATPOST: Model?

STEM: Model and length?

Idly inquiring minds...

Thanks!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:27:41 PM UTC-7, BBOB wrote:
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> Hi, Thanks for the compliments...Seat posts can be reversed...Height can 
> be adjusted...There is NO RESERVE... FREE Shipping in CONTIUSA. But yes you 
> can pick up if in NC?
> Please tell someone who appreciates what a great savings and what a nice 
> bicycle ( Male or Female) can be enjoyed.
> Thanks, BBOB
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Re: [RBW] Favorite Platform Pedals

[Eric Norris]

I remember a guy here in NorCal back in the 80s who rode barefoot on Phil Wood 
pedals—and did some hugely difficult rides that way!

--Eric Norris
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> On Sep 4, 2017, at 5:48 AM, lconley  wrote:
> 
> Barefoot: No question - Phil Wood, smooth surface, no spikes. Back when I was 
> young and could afford bike parts, but not shoes, the Phil Woods were a 
> wonder after years of Lyotard rat traps and Campagnolo Records. I have a pair 
> that still spin smooth. 
> Bang for the buck: MKS sneaker pedals, but these may not be considered 
> platform pedals by some. 
> Shoes: Shimano Saint, these win over the Thin Gripsters (VP001) because the 
> edges of the VPs are sharp and have drawn blood several times. I have filed 
> the edges of several VPs to prevent cuts, but it kind of ruins the esthetics. 
> If you have to have silver: Velo Orange Sabot. Note that I do not consider 
> MKS Touring to be platform pedals. They are classic rat traps, and the best 
> rat traps due to their width but they are not platforms. 
> Honorable mention: Lyotard platform pedals - too bad they are too narrow for 
> me. I have them in French and English threads. White Industries and MKS  both 
> make copies of these in alloy as opposed to the original steel. 
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[RBW] Re: 2.35 inch tires on Atlas rims

[Kellie]

Go Velocity website and select the rim. It'll give you all kinds of info.

On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 5:16:29 PM UTC-7, John G. wrote:
>
> I've inherited a pair of lightly used 2.35 inch Schwalbe G-One tires, and 
> I'm thinking about trying them out on my Atlantis. Are my Atlas rims too 
> small? According to Velocity's site, max optimal width for Atlas is 45mm. 
> Anyone have firsthand experience?

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Platform Pedals

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Canfield crampons in Silver. After getting them I discovered I really like 
having a very thin pedal with desert moccasins (from Crazycrow), which I 
have glued on a  thin layer of rubberish sole material to protect the soles 
from the pins. I am back to clipless on all my bikes, but if the smoke ever 
clears here in Bend, it will be my setup for bike camping. I am stuck 
inside as the smoke is officially hazardous. Cough...cough. 

Clayton (Bendite)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

[Patrick Moore]

Bill -- can you post the URL to this test? I'm curious about the level of
friction difference involved.

Thanks, Patrick Moore, who managed to get out for a short ditch and road
ride yesterday on the Speed-Waxed Matthews despite work, in dusty ABQ, NM

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Bill in Roswell GA 
wrote:

> [...]
>
> FWIW, a few years ago a lab tested chain lubes with the lowest friction
> (not longest viability). The four at the top were Molten Speed Wax, Squirt
> (wax based), Parrafin (grocery store) and Lilly Lube (synthetic blend).
>
>

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[RBW] WTB Bosco, Choco, or Albatross bars

[Bill Lindsay]

Do you want advice on how to choose between the three handlebars?  If so, What 
can you tell us or show us about the candidate bicycle? 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca. 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

[Bill Lindsay]

Mark explained he was not referring to the name Medium Mountain Mixte that I 
used in the subject line of this thread, but was referring to Rivendell's 
referential use of the term Mixte when describing a non-Mixte design

I think I understand better now.  Thanks. Why would somebody who knows better 
deliberately use the wrong term to describe something?  Is it marketing?  Is it 
sloppiness?  Did they forget?  

If I had to guess I would say it was just convenient communication. Last month 
the path of the moon was just right that observers on earth could see it block 
out the sun. Almost everybody referred to that event as an eclipse, even though 
everyone who knows better knew full well that it was not an eclipse but an 
occultation. When you said "the eclipse" people knew what you were talking 
about, and little harm was done by using the incorrect term. 

These eclipse/occultation/Mixte minutiae are fresh in my mind because last 
month Grant used the term 'eclipse' in a post and I called him on it, just for 
fun. When I went to pick up my frame, Grant called me on using the name Medium 
Mountain Mixte, also just for fun. That's the irony, that we're speculating why 
Grant would use the wrong term when it was Grant correcting me for using the 
wrong term. 

Part of language is just trying to convey an idea efficiently. The speaker is 
guessing at what words to use to get the job done. I've used the term 
'step-through' for decades working at bike shops and usually when speaking and 
with the bike present I still use the term step-through along with a little 
pantomime motion towards the dropped top tube.  

If Rivendell sometimes used the term Mixte to describe a non Mixte design, I 
trust it was just to briefly point out that the thing had that step through 
feature.  A Facebook post, a BLUG post is an environment where writers might 
get a little loose with descriptive terms. When it comes to actual NAMING of 
objects, like frame decals or a product brochure I think it's right to expect 
more precision. 

Happy Labor Day 
Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] WTB Bosco, Choco, or Albatross bars

[Reid Echols]

Been curious about these bars for a while. Convince me to drop the drops? 

Shipping would be to Austin, TX. 

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[RBW] Favorite Platform Pedals

[lconley]

Barefoot: No question - Phil Wood, smooth surface, no spikes. Back when I was 
young and could afford bike parts, but not shoes, the Phil Woods were a wonder 
after years of Lyotard rat traps and Campagnolo Records. I have a pair that 
still spin smooth. 
Bang for the buck: MKS sneaker pedals, but these may not be considered platform 
pedals by some. 
Shoes: Shimano Saint, these win over the Thin Gripsters (VP001) because the 
edges of the VPs are sharp and have drawn blood several times. I have filed the 
edges of several VPs to prevent cuts, but it kind of ruins the esthetics. 
If you have to have silver: Velo Orange Sabot. Note that I do not consider MKS 
Touring to be platform pedals. They are classic rat traps, and the best rat 
traps due to their width but they are not platforms. 
Honorable mention: Lyotard platform pedals - too bad they are too narrow for 
me. I have them in French and English threads. White Industries and MKS  both 
make copies of these in alloy as opposed to the original steel. 

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[RBW] Favorite Platform Pedals

[Mike Packard]

I've been using the same set of $20 Odyssey pedals daily for about 3 years and 
haven't really found a pair I like better. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

[Marc Nolte]

I've got a Dahon MuXL.  More cushy on Big Apples than my Wilbury on GB Hetres. 
Steering feels twitchy for the first 100-200m then my muscle-memory adapts. 

Just a wee bit slower than the Wilbury on my standard 15km commute. 

Lack of hand positions is my only gripe. I run wrapped albatross on my Riv, so 
I have 3.6 distinct hand holds. Dahon, basically 1. 

Love the Nexus-8 on the MuXL too. 

Feel envy every time a Brompton rider does the rear-wheel tuck 'n park trick. 

Still lust after a Moulton SST. 

Marc in Calgary
( Where an exceptional summer has seen the most miles by bike yet. )

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 10:31 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Oh well; if I could find a Brompton that could give me an 
> almost-road-bike riding position (as the HS does with 2" bar extender and 
> original Moustache bar), and let me set it up as a fixed gear, I'd think of 
> buying one. I don't want a bike whose principal benefit is folding small, 
> while its riding qualities are distant from those of full sized bikes.
> 
> The HS is not bad at all; "boat to truck" doesn't do it justice. I want a 
> folder that I can ride 20 miles in a normal position without pain.
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep. To do Brompton stuff you kinda need a Brompton. Your bike is a renamed 
>> Boardwalk, which is really more of a 'ride from the boat to the truck' 
>> design. Here's another shot that shows better how the bag fits on the bike.
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Favorite Platform Pedals

[Ron Mc]

Hi Ian, my ice-skate feet with tall arches measured out once at 13A, but 
I'm comfortable in most size 12D shoes.  My favorite walking shoes are 
Merrells, and they're also my favorite platform pedal shoes
Regards, Ron .  

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 1:05:58 AM UTC-5, Ian A wrote:
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> What size and width feet do you have Ron? The pedals you reference sound 
> good for my feet. 
>
> IanA 
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[RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Ann,
As you've probably noticed by now, sea mist (super fine salt water 
particles created by wave and wind action) on the bike causes other 
particulates (dust, grit, pollen) to stick. A rinse of fresh water every 
few days and a (soapy) wipe down of the bike every week or so will keep 
things from getting out of hand. "Waxing" the frame with a decent 
protective product (quick and easy tends to get done more often than a 
labor intensive product like paste) every month or so. 

Another thought on a paint-protective-coating is that the bright sun and 
reflected sunlight will age the paint faster than you might imagine. 

Nickel plated chains and cassettes hold up pretty well with a regular wash. 
However, remember that same salt air causes gunk to build up in the cable 
housing. A few drops of teflon based dry lube into the housing (with the 
bike hanging by the front or rear wheel) will prolong useable life. 

FWIW, a few years ago a lab tested chain lubes with the lowest friction 
(not longest viability). The four at the top were Molten Speed Wax, Squirt 
(wax based), Parrafin (grocery store) and Lilly Lube (synthetic blend). 

Have you talked with the local bike shops? There are plenty of hardcore 
roadies and triathletes to support some quality bike shops around there. 
Maybe they would share advice for the conditions.

Best of luck!

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA


On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-4, panog wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 10:55:35 PM UTC-4, Ann L wrote: 
> > I recently relocated due to work and now do the majority of my riding by 
> the beach.  I love the natural beauty of sand, surf, ospreys, and pelicans 
> but hate what the sand is doing to my gears.  A gritty crust rapidly 
> develops on my cassette and chain.  I have been cleaning the chain weekly 
> and wiping the bike down daily.  Any advice from beach riders as to what I 
> should be doing to maintain the bike? 
>
> Fenders, mud flap on the front and NFS chain lube. It works just fine 
> without any accelerated wear.

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Platform Pedals

[Ian A]

What size and width feet do you have Ron? The pedals you reference sound good 
for my feet. 

IanA 

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