[RBW] Re: Why we need to ride...

[Lum Gim Fong]

Hey Austin,

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/sykesville/rbw-owners-bunch/UUWiBwm5LSY

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto Top Rack R-14

[Irving]

I have a Nitto R-14 used for one camping trip. $130 shipped?

On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 8:02:39 AM UTC-8, Jacob Gosschalk wrote:
>
> Looking for a Nitto R-14 for my Hunq if anyone out there is wanting to 
> sell one or has a similar type, open for alternatives.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jake Gosschalk
> San Antonio Tejas
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[RBW] Re: Roasting Robusta

[Ray Varella]

Leslie,
Green beans keep at least 4-6 months like Patrick says. 
They will gradually lose some of their fruity and spicy undertones and nuances 
over time and you will be left with really smooth and delicious coffee. 
Some island grown beans are actually aged for a couple years before they are 
sold. 

and when you have a few different varieties left and not enough of any of 
them to make a full batch, mix them and roast them. 
As long as you start with good coffee the results will be outstanding. 
A blindfolded chimp could make a stellar blend, keep that in mind whenever you 
read flowery prose in a coffee shop. The blindfolded chimp would get just as 
good of results as any meticulously careful roaster. 
Trust me, I’m that chimp and every random blend I have ever made was 
outstanding 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: Rusted lugged frame still in heavy use pics.

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I don't think you were trolling. I do think the bike in question is not 
very Rivish: skinny skinny tires, carbon wheel, saddle rails, & fork,  aero 
bars, radial spoking,  STI shifting, huge saddle to bar drop and no way to 
raise the threadless stem, racing gearing and geometry. Apparently the 
frame was built by the owner and broke at least once. It's not completely 
clear but it appears there may be a significant crack at the top of the 
seat tube where it meets the seat stay. Might be due for another repair. 
And while I am the last person to criticize patina, this to me is bordering 
on neglect/abuse ( I get the "rusty patina" thing, and that it has been a 
topic, and some Riv bars have gotten the treatment, but still) . It could 
certainly be an interesting bicycle to some people on this list, but I 
don't think it has all that much relevance to the focus of this list. (Cue 
the "of course it's relevant" contingent;^). That may be why it got the 
"troll" reaction. Not a capital offence, but probably a better fit over on 
iBOB or some of the other forums around town.

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 8:57:28 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Its a fun bike to look at. The frame is pretty. Also fun to see how salty 
> roads and wintry rides effect a frame.
>
> I have never trolled. Kinda hurts to be called that as I always try to be 
> nice and friendly in the forum. I hope noone thinks I have trolled. Maybe 
> people are taking my written words the wring way. This is a legitimate post 
> about what I think is an interesting steel bike frane.
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[RBW] Re: FS: $10 Willow Chainrings through Sunday. Proceeds to Hail Mary.

[alfonsejr]

Very nice gesture, and excellent price on some nice chainrings.

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 2:41:12 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>
> Bumping up this deal. Let's say it's available through 9pm CST this 
> evening, at which point I'll use funds for Hail Mary efforts.
> Thanks to those that have taken me up on this.
> David
>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano XTR Rear Derailleur - RD-M900 - $50 Shipped CONUS

[Jeffrey Arita]

SOLD

On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 8:02:11 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Arita wrote:
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> Hello All,
>
> Up for sale is a lightly used Shimano XTR rear derailleur, RD-M900.  
> Originally came on our Santana Sovereign tandem.  After we rode the tandem 
> awhile, I changed out the entire drivetrain.  Stored this rear derailleur 
> in the garage hoping to one day install on a project bike that never 
> happened.  Would like to find a nice home on a bike that will be ridden.
>
> Please check out the photos.  This mech needs a nice home!  $50 shipped 
> CONUS.  PayPal preferred.  PM me if interested.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jeff
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Wool Repair? - SF Bay Area (or elsewhere if they have mad patching skillz...)

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Awesome!  Thanks Jim!

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 6:09:35 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> Olgas Atelie is in Pleasant HIll, no website but if you look her up on 
> Yelp you'll see overwhelming positive reviews. She does contract work for a 
> many dry cleaners who say they do repair work. I have not taken wool 
> jerseys to her, but my wife has taken cashmere sweaters to her and the 
> results really are impressive. 91 Gregory Lane, Pleasant Hill, 925.825.2327
>
> jim m
> walnut creek, ca
>
>
> On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 8:11:57 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>> Hey all - 
>>
>> Was going through some jerseys and remembered that there was one with a 
>> hole and a few with some tears that I'd meant to deal with last year or so. 
>> A few more geo-centric groups had posted recommendations for folks who 
>> repaired wool jerseys (moth-nibble-holes and some failed rear pocket 
>> stitching) but those were out of date enough that the urls didn't work or 
>> the phones didn't pick up. Which means I need to update some info...
>>
>> So - anyone get any wool jerseys repaired recently?
>>
>> I'm fine shipping 'em if the quality is good.  I'd prefer to drop 'em 
>> with someone in the greater SF Bay Area.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> - JIm
>>
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[RBW] Re: Roasting Robusta

[Tony DeFilippo]

Nice photos, I had been meaning to ask you if the zenroaster was still working 
well for you so this was great!  Glad to see it's a big part of your routine.  

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Re: [RBW] How avoid sore throats from riding in cold weather?

[EasyRider]

Patrick, for me the benefit of the Neti pot is that it clears out my nasal 
passage so excess "stuff" isn't slowly draining. It also seems to head off 
stuffy ears. Generally, it makes me feel better. You'll want to use distilled 
or boiled water and a saline solution or it will sting a bit and could 
introduce pathogens.

I had a cold a few weeks back and noticed that if I drank a cold glass of water 
or Gatorade, my throats would hurt almost immediately, and/or I would cough 
right away. I googled it, and What I read was, cold irritates the mucus lining 
of the throat, makes it shrink, and makes the throat more vulnerable to 
irritants and pathogens. 

I too avoid antihistamines. Perhaps sipping warm water or honey tea while 
riding, or sucking a lozenge, might help counteract the effect of cold air?

-Pete

(I've ocassionally posted my first name before. When I joined the list I didn't 
realize it was the norm.)

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Re: [RBW] How avoid sore throats from riding in cold weather?

[Ray Varella]

Patrick,
   I use something similar to a nettipot but rather than passively 
pouring the solution into your nose, this is a soft squeezable bottle with a 
tube that goes to the bottom. 
You put it in one nostril and squeeze hard, then do the other nostril the same 
way. 

It’s called Niel Med. it comes with little envelopes of a powdered solution of 
salt and baking soda. IIRC
You dissolve one envelope into the bottle filled with warm water. 

The allergy doctor that suggested it to me thought the guy that came up with it 
should have received a Nobel prize. 

The first couple times you use it, you’ll have flashbacks of the first time you 
jumped into water and didn’t know you should hold your nose. 

For me, it works great. I have seasonal allergies and it’s exceedingly rare 
that I need anything other than the Neil med. 

It flushes out your nasal passages and prevents all the gunk from dripping down 
the back of your throat.  

Our lung functions are reduced by about 35% when we are lying down and that 
also prevents us from expelling mucous that we would while awake and standing 
or sitting. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: Wool Repair? - SF Bay Area (or elsewhere if they have mad patching skillz...)

[Deacon Patrick]

And free me of my one thread of sanity? Darn! I must reconsider.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Wool Repair? - SF Bay Area (or elsewhere if they have mad patching skillz...)

[Jim M.]

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 6:22:25 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Jim, does she repair the wool between the ears of a muttonhead? Grin. 
>
> Of course, but off-road fixed gear muttonheadedness is extra.

jim m
walnut creek, ca 

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[RBW] Re: Wool Repair? - SF Bay Area (or elsewhere if they have mad patching skillz...)

[Deacon Patrick]

Jim, does she repair the wool between the ears of a muttonhead? Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick “what happens if I pull this thread” of the Highlands

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[RBW] Re: Wool Repair? - SF Bay Area (or elsewhere if they have mad patching skillz...)

[Jim M.]

Olgas Atelie is in Pleasant HIll, no website but if you look her up on Yelp 
you'll see overwhelming positive reviews. She does contract work for a many 
dry cleaners who say they do repair work. I have not taken wool jerseys to 
her, but my wife has taken cashmere sweaters to her and the results really 
are impressive. 91 Gregory Lane, Pleasant Hill, 925.825.2327

jim m
walnut creek, ca


On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 8:11:57 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Hey all - 
>
> Was going through some jerseys and remembered that there was one with a 
> hole and a few with some tears that I'd meant to deal with last year or so. 
> A few more geo-centric groups had posted recommendations for folks who 
> repaired wool jerseys (moth-nibble-holes and some failed rear pocket 
> stitching) but those were out of date enough that the urls didn't work or 
> the phones didn't pick up. Which means I need to update some info...
>
> So - anyone get any wool jerseys repaired recently?
>
> I'm fine shipping 'em if the quality is good.  I'd prefer to drop 'em with 
> someone in the greater SF Bay Area.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> - JIm
>

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[RBW] Re: Roasting Robusta

[Deacon Patrick]

Green beans have a long shelf life. We plan on 4-6 months and do fine. A good 
way to seal them is important — as moisture content matters to roasting.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Rusted lugged frame still in heavy use pics.

[Lum Gim Fong]

Its a fun bike to look at. The frame is pretty. Also fun to see how salty roads 
and wintry rides effect a frame.

I have never trolled. Kinda hurts to be called that as I always try to be nice 
and friendly in the forum. I hope noone thinks I have trolled. Maybe people are 
taking my written words the wring way. This is a legitimate post about what I 
think is an interesting steel bike frane.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 29 x 2.3-2.5 Knobby Tire & Rim Recommendations for Clem.

[Patrick Moore]

Regarding wide tires: I agree that adding significant weight on the
perimeter of the wheels is a good way to slow down both acceleration and
handling, but I have to say that compared to the 360 gram 50 mm F Freds, the
new-to-me Big Ones on the Matthews -- 440 grams!!! (well, I've seen them
range from 420 to 460) for true 60 mm!!! -- float over sand better, and
roll even faster on pavement, at least to judge this latter by the feel of
maintaining cadences in given conditions. Really wonderful tires! Besides,
they give the already somewhat industrial looking Matthews an even more
agressive, intimidating appearance, and that's what we all want, right?
(Before you get all indignant, consider whether this remark is earnest or
not.)

OTOH, I look forward to the day, perhaps, when I'll get a second wheelset
to run skinny Snoqualmie Pass tires tubeless, or perhaps even Barlow
Passes. But for local conditions, fatter is better, ceteris paribus.

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 4:46 PM, David B  wrote:

> My thought was to get the widest possible tires to fulfill my desires for
> a plus bike. I've sort of resolved not too buy another bike for a long
> while and ride what I have. I also was pondering this idea in the middle of
> a big snowfall. All snow is gone now, however the river trail I ride floods
> regularly and leaves the trail very muddy at times and I prefer wider tires
> for that type of thick mud.
> However, it's all sort of moot now as it was warm enough for Clem to take
> back his typical duties, going for rides with my son on a rear set. I did
> pick up a set of Ardents that I might play around with next winter.
>
> On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 3:42:30 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> I’ve found that the weight of wider tires sucks more out of all terrain
>> rides than they benifit the few spots narrower tires stuffle on — and that
>> includes winter riding (granted we’ve has a wimpy winter in terms of snow
>> depth). My Hunqapillar handles better with liteskin 2.1” ThunderBurts than
>> with wider and heavier tires. On my QB now (the only bike I’ve ridden since
>> November), 38mm Steilacooms are brilliant. Where the line is for a given
>> bike/rider/terrain/riding surface is going to vary significantly, but there
>> is a point of diminishing returns. With good riding skill, the number of
>> places I think “I wish I had a wider tire” is near nothing vs. the distance
>> I ride in total, whereas with a wider tire all those miles feel clumbsy and
>> cumbersome and plodding.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: FS-Joe Appaloosa

[Gossamer]

Whta  







The Soma Portola bars are currently on it and the Chocomoose bars will come 
with it as well. I have no doubt it will fit..I am just a shad over 89. I'd 
get a slightly smaller bike if I were to do it again.

On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 6:20:15 PM UTC-6, mike smith wrote:
>
> Can you post a few more pics? What handlebar options come with it?  Im 6 2 
> with a 91 PBH. It should fit.  

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[RBW] Re: Roasting Robusta

[Leslie]

How long do green coffee beans keep?   i.e., what would be your reorder 
frequency?  



On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 5:52:59 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which we roast our coffee as a gift for a caffeine hound. Robusta beans 
> have twice the normal caffeine. Rocket fuel! Here are the steps of roasting 
> using the ZenRoaster.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/roasting-robusta
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] FS/T: Brooks Cambium C17, VO Porteur Chaincase

[Jeremy Till]

(x-post from iBOB, apologies to those seeing it twice)

Two items for sale or trade.  Pictures are here 
.  

   - Used Brooks C17 Cambium, black.  Bought used by me in September last 
   year, and ridden for a few months on my mountain bike (so I was standing up 
   a lot). I've once again come to the conclusion that Brooks saddles don't 
   really work for my anatomy.  In very good shape, only signs of wear is some 
   almost unnoticeable fraying around the edges of the saddle at its widest 
   point.  $75 shipped.  
   - Velo-Orange Porteur Chaincase.  These are no longer produced by VO, 
   but a local LBS had one in back stock that I bought impulsively as I was 
   building up a bike specifically for commuting .  
   In the end I decided not to use it, so I thought I'd make it available to 
   the general public.  The perfect item to finish off your constructeur city 
   bike build, or maybe your Frank Jones Sr?  $60 shipped.  Includes all 
   hardware.

I would entertain offers for trades, partial or whole.  Items I'm 
interested in: 

   - WTB Pure V (aka "Pure") saddles, especially Team or Pro models, 
   especially ones lacking seams in the seating area and silly graphics.  
   - Good, fast, 700x28 tires, skinwall preferred.  Soma Supple Vitesse or 
   Panaracer Gravel King Slicks would be ideal.  
   - Good, fast, 700x38-42 tires, similar to above.  Soma SV, Panaracer 
   Gravel King, Compass Barlow Pass, etc.  Don't care about sidewall color on 
   this one.  
   - B Secula Plus for Fender, or other similarly modern LED fender 
   mounted tailight compatible with a Luxos U headlight.   

I am located in Sacramento, CA.   

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Re: [RBW] fixed-free hubs & chain line

[ted]

I have an 1/8" chainring, cog and chain on my SO. 
With the stock BB I experienced some "grunchiness" and observed some odd 
wear marks forming on the chainring teeth.
I replace the BB with a Phil unit and got the chain line as straight as I 
could. It's been great ever since.

I'll be setting up another single speed soon and am considering my options 
for hubs/wheels. Though I've never used a fw on my SO, I'm thinking I may 
want easy flipping fixed / free on the new bike. I like the allen bolts, 
high flanges with cut outs, etc of the Paul hubs, but I'm thinking having a 
different chain line on the fixed and free sides of the hub might not play 
well if I stay with 1/8" chainrings and cogs. On the other hand the fw 
would still be 3//32" so perhaps the chainline being off when I flip to 
that side would be fine.

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 10:50:48 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I've never had any problems with 1/8" or 3/32" chains, ss chains or 
> derailleur chains, used for fixed or single fw drivetrains; I've found that 
> a few mm either way makes no difference. 
>
> What do you mean by "particular", in particular? IE, what are the symptoms 
> or problems you experience?
>
> Is it possible you have the chain too tight?
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 8:13 AM, ted  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I would like some advice please.
>>
>> From experience I've found that a 1/8" track ring/cog/chain drive train 
>> can be particular about chain line.
>> I've noticed that the chainline for the fixed and free sides of the Paul 
>> high flange hub are different.
>> So now I'm wondering, is that typical for fixed-free hubs?
>> Does the thinner cog on a single speed fw afford enough slop that one can 
>> set up the fixed side precisely with 1/8" stuff and the fw flip side will 
>> be fine?
>> Should I stick with normal width gears if I'm going to use a fixed-free 
>> hub on a one speed?
>>
>> thanks for any help
>>
>> ted
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[RBW] Re: 29 x 2.3-2.5 Knobby Tire & Rim Recommendations for Clem.

[David B]

My thought was to get the widest possible tires to fulfill my desires for a 
plus bike. I've sort of resolved not too buy another bike for a long while 
and ride what I have. I also was pondering this idea in the middle of a big 
snowfall. All snow is gone now, however the river trail I ride floods 
regularly and leaves the trail very muddy at times and I prefer wider tires 
for that type of thick mud. 
However, it's all sort of moot now as it was warm enough for Clem to take 
back his typical duties, going for rides with my son on a rear set. I did 
pick up a set of Ardents that I might play around with next winter.

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 3:42:30 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I’ve found that the weight of wider tires sucks more out of all terrain 
> rides than they benifit the few spots narrower tires stuffle on — and that 
> includes winter riding (granted we’ve has a wimpy winter in terms of snow 
> depth). My Hunqapillar handles better with liteskin 2.1” ThunderBurts than 
> with wider and heavier tires. On my QB now (the only bike I’ve ridden since 
> November), 38mm Steilacooms are brilliant. Where the line is for a given 
> bike/rider/terrain/riding surface is going to vary significantly, but there 
> is a point of diminishing returns. With good riding skill, the number of 
> places I think “I wish I had a wider tire” is near nothing vs. the distance 
> I ride in total, whereas with a wider tire all those miles feel clumbsy and 
> cumbersome and plodding. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Why we need to ride...

[Deacon Patrick]

A common occurence in our wee hoosie...

“He needed a longer ride.” Simultanious sigh and shoulder shrug from me wife 
and four lassies.

Sardonic grin.

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[RBW] Re: Why we need to ride...

[Scott McLain]

The body fuels the mind!  
I didn’t ride yesterday because the high was 25F.  I needed some encouragement 
to get out there.  My job is driving me nuts so I need it for sure.

Also like the Deacon referencing a BYU article!

Thank you for the inspiration DP! 

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[RBW] Re: Why we need to ride...

[Austin]

Check! It was grey and wet and cool--perfect coffee weather so I took the 
Sam out this afternoon for a cup 'o joe. 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/iUxAgPc4WHQIaa2j2

Spring is shy and peaking her head around the corner here in the 
mid-atlantic. The moment you acknowledge her, she goes back into hiding.

Austin in MD


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[RBW] Ye Ol’ 8˚ Coffee Hoose

[Deacon Patrick]

In which we delight in a coffee house that has an amazing view, open roof, 
allows a pipe, allows bikes, though is oft drafty and prone to chill.
https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/ye-ol-8o-coffee-hoose/

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[RBW] Re: Roasting Robusta

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It looks interesting.  I just ordered an inexpensive roaster and will give 
it a try.

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>
> In which we roast our coffee as a gift for a caffeine hound. Robusta beans 
> have twice the normal caffeine. Rocket fuel! Here are the steps of roasting 
> using the ZenRoaster.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/roasting-robusta
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Re: [RBW] How avoid sore throats from riding in cold weather?

[Patrick Moore]

I will read the link and give it a try.

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Persist with the nose breathing and you will be amazed. It addresses
> everything you just described, much of which I had before I shifted to nose
> breathing all the time, 24/7.
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Re: [RBW] How avoid sore throats from riding in cold weather?

[Deacon Patrick]

Persist with the nose breathing and you will be amazed. It addresses everything 
you just described, much of which I had before I shifted to nose breathing all 
the time, 24/7.

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Re: [RBW] How avoid sore throats from riding in cold weather?

[Patrick Moore]

Well, also, possibly, damage from smoke, cigarette or exhaust. The opaque
black smoke wasn't diesel, either; it was the byproduct of inefficient
combustion of low octane petrol.

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> With me, the drip is either allergies or native,
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Re: [RBW] How avoid sore throats from riding in cold weather?

[Patrick Moore]

With me, the drip is either allergies or native, since I have had it all
the time, as a youth and in age, even when in bed or sitting at breakfast,
and not only when exercising -- which is why the first few miles are always
devoted to "blowing out the pipes." I know that it is this that "tickles"
the lungs and I hear that it is this that inflames the throat, but I expect
there is an immune system factor involved, too, since I am far more likely
to have the trickle turn into a sore throat when I am tired or stressed or
have exerted myself too much. I smoked cigarettes (and pipes and cigars
too, for that matter) for ~25 years; and as a boy I recall riding hard up
hills in the wake of black-smoke-belching buses and trucks (in 1971, at 5K+
feet, in Africa, many of your buses and trucks put out barely more
horsepower than I did, but put out opaque black clouds of exhaust, and I'd
pace them up long hills, inhaling the crap).

And, though I have the same trickles in warm weather, they don't cause me
sore throats then; I pop Yin Xiao only between November and March.

Covering the neck -- religiously wearing a scarf -- and staying out of
drafts seems to help; or perhaps it's the other way around: leaving the
neck exposed to cold and wind, and standing in a cold draft, makes a sore
throat more likely.

In any event, such discussions help me think through the matter, and at
least clarify what might be and what does not seem to be a cause.

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> ... sinus drip, congestion, inflamation, etc, is a symptom of
> overbreathing. Breath less, things open up.

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[RBW] Roasting Robusta

[Deacon Patrick]

In which we roast our coffee as a gift for a caffeine hound. Robusta beans have 
twice the normal caffeine. Rocket fuel! Here are the steps of roasting using 
the ZenRoaster.
https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/roasting-robusta

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[RBW] Why we need to ride...

[Rod Holland]

Thanks, Patrick! Best advice we're likely to receive until Spring declares 
itself.

rod

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[RBW] 29 x 2.3-2.5 Knobby Tire & Rim Recommendations for Clem.

[Deacon Patrick]

I’ve found that the weight of wider tires sucks more out of all terrain rides 
than they benifit the few spots narrower tires stuffle on — and that includes 
winter riding (granted we’ve has a wimpy winter in terms of snow depth). My 
Hunqapillar handles better with liteskin 2.1” ThunderBurts than with wider and 
heavier tires. On my QB now (the only bike I’ve ridden since November), 38mm 
Steilacooms are brilliant. Where the line is for a given 
bike/rider/terrain/riding surface is going to vary significantly, but there is 
a point of diminishing returns. With good riding skill, the number of places I 
think “I wish I had a wider tire” is near nothing vs. the distance I ride in 
total, whereas with a wider tire all those miles feel clumbsy and cumbersome 
and plodding.

With abandon,
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[RBW] 29 x 2.3-2.5 Knobby Tire & Rim Recommendations for Clem.

[masmojo]

I was running some wide knobbies on my Clementine for a short time, but I 
didn't like them so I took them off. The bike is a bit heavy & running some 
heavy knobbies just accentuated that feeling. I finally settled on running a 
2.1ish knobby up front & a Big Ben out back. 
Now when I was biilding my Surly Ogre up, I bought a set of wheels that came 
with premounted Continental Race Kings.  I anticipated that any tire that came 
on an economical set of wheels would be terrible, but to my surprise they were 
really great & I think they would excel on a Clem as well! They don't feel too 
heavy & the sidewall is really not too stiff, so they handle very well on most 
surfaces. 

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[RBW] Re: Rusted lugged frame still in heavy use pics.

[Eric Karnes]

Haha. I had the same thought, but...

that bike is really beautiful. Reminds me of a bike version of Tom Kundig's 
industrial-modernist architecture. Practicality without even a clear coat 
is another matter. I remember seeing a picture of an unfinished Roadeo once 
where the clearcoat had worn off in places and had a really beautiful 
patina.

Eric

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> i cant tell when youre trolling anymore so im going to assume its 80% of 
> the time
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[RBW] Re: Riv headbadge T-shirt?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The issue is, running a small to medium size business is hard. Running one 
that cares about more than the bottom line--quality offerings, sourcing, 
employees, customers, etc.--has always been even harder. These days it is 
becoming almost impossible.

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 2:36:21 PM UTC-5, Ray Varella wrote:
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>
> The issue could be unforeseen expenses that aren’t accounted for. 
>
>
> Ray

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[RBW] Re: FS: $10 Willow Chainrings through Sunday. Proceeds to Hail Mary.

[David B]

Bumping up this deal. Let's say it's available through 9pm CST this 
evening, at which point I'll use funds for Hail Mary efforts.
Thanks to those that have taken me up on this.
David

On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 5:45:54 PM UTC-6, David B wrote:
>
> Also, obviously buy Hail Mary certificates directly from Riv, just 
> throwing this out there if you have a chainring need.
> I've bought several certificates already, and want to do more, so offering 
> this out there.
> Also, for the diligent eye, there is a 49/37/25 chainring special, that's 
> priced at $10 a ring as well, so you could go through the webstore if 
> that's what you want.
> Thanks again,
> David
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 5:39:26 PM UTC-6, David B wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>> Bugging the list from time to time with the fact that I have a few Willow 
>> chainrings left. 
>> Willow chainrings were sold by Riv several years ago, and were a product 
>> of Ted Durant (Heron/Willow/RONA/frequent list contributor).
>>
>> So, my deal is, $10 a chainring for whatever's here: 
>> http://treetop.bigcartel.com/category/willow-chainrings-c
>> Best for 9-speed and less drivetrains.
>>
>> All funds will go to Rivendell Hail Mary certificates.
>>
>> Prices good through Sunday at 5pm CST, so I can then purchase Hail Mary 
>> certificates.
>>
>> Shipping options:
>> $4 for USPS First Class, up to a pound o' rings.
>> $7 for USPS Priority, for however many you'd like.
>>
>>
>> IMPORTANT! To get the $10 price, please contact me offlist, let me know 
>> your shipping preference, and I'll send a Paypal invoice.
>> Thanks!
>> David
>> River Grove, IL
>>
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[RBW] Re: Riv headbadge T-shirt?

[Ray Varella]

Perhaps taking enough prepaid preorders to cover production costs would make it 
feasible. 
The issue could be unforeseen expenses that aren’t accounted for. 


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[RBW] Re: Riv headbadge T-shirt?

[iamkeith]

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 12:14:48 PM UTC-7, Jay Lonner wrote:
>
> I would like to see Riv make a bigger commitment to their entire clothing 
> line. Between my Hunqapillar and Rambouillet I'm all set, bike-wise, so 
> I've pretty much hit a wall in terms of hardware needs. But I'm always in 
> the market for practical, unracer clothing that's suitable both on and off 
> a bike. I can sympathize if Grant wants to stay focused on bikes and avoid 
> morphing into LL Bean, but the fact remains that I have zero need for 
> additional bikey bits. In fact my parts bin is overflowing and I need to 
> sell some stuff off, so stay tuned for that.
>
>>
>>
I feel the same way, however I know for a fact that the MUSA stuff is a net 
money loser.   As I mentioned in the hail mary thread, they have to buy 
full runs of each size in minimum quantities, and lots of it languishes on 
the shelf.  Look how long the small and xxl shorts have been on the sale 
page.T shirts are probably a bit different, but I think the other stuff 
is a labor of love and probably not feasible under current circumstances.  
I sure hope there's more eventually, though. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv headbadge T-shirt?

[Lum Gim Fong]

A Rambouillet blue shirt with a Rambouillet head badge pic on it would be 
cool.

 

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[RBW] Re: Riv headbadge T-shirt?

[Jay Lonner]

I would like to see Riv make a bigger commitment to their entire clothing 
line. Between my Hunqapillar and Rambouillet I'm all set, bike-wise, so 
I've pretty much hit a wall in terms of hardware needs. But I'm always in 
the market for practical, unracer clothing that's suitable both on and off 
a bike. I can sympathize if Grant wants to stay focused on bikes and avoid 
morphing into LL Bean, but the fact remains that I have zero need for 
additional bikey bits. In fact my parts bin is overflowing and I need to 
sell some stuff off, so stay tuned for that.

Anyway, I'd buy a Hunqapillar t-shirt if they made one.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 9:24:22 AM UTC-8, Drw wrote:
>
> I was thinking something similar with all of this Hail Mary stuff going 
> on.The t-shirts they make can’t cost too much overhead and they sell out 
> really fast and there is probably more profit in them than many other 
> things they sell. It seems like a direction that they could go in. 

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[RBW] Why we need to ride...

[Deacon Patrick]

Exercise triggers the body’s natural healing mechanisms, including natural ways 
of handling stress. Who the February/March yips our fearless leader Jim 
mentioned? Not enough rides! Grin. No matter the weather, get out, walk, run, 
ride. Move.

https://news.byu.edu/news/running-helps-brain-counteract-negative-effect-stress-study-finds

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Re: [RBW] Re: fixed-free hubs & chain line

[Patrick Moore]

I wish I could get even close to concentric! I find that Pro 5 Vis rings in
particular -- or perhaps it's the spiders -- are always very eccentric,
despite juggling; more so than all the Sugino 110s I've used. But I've only
had 1 really egregious Pro 5 Vis ring, that practically had an eliptical
orbit, that threw a chain when the chain was too loose -- this after 15 or
18 years of using this stuff.

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 11:50 AM, BSWP  wrote:

> I'm running a 1/8 chain on my QuickBeam, which has a single ring in front,
> and a Dos Eno and fixed cog on the rear. My chain line is not "perfect" but
> I'm not seeing any unusual wear on the cogs - that is, the wear seems even
> on both sides. What I find more critical is getting the front chain ring
> perfectly concentric with the BB spindle. This takes time and patience, to
> achieve uniform chain tension through the entire rotation of the big ring.
> When it's just right, it's delicious!
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 7:13:56 AM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>
>>
>> I would like some advice please.
>>
>> From experience I've found that a 1/8" track ring/cog/chain drive train
>> can be particular about chain line.
>> I've noticed that the chainline for the fixed and free sides of the Paul
>> high flange hub are different.
>> So now I'm wondering, is that typical for fixed-free hubs?
>> Does the thinner cog on a single speed fw afford enough slop that one can
>> set up the fixed side precisely with 1/8" stuff and the fw flip side will
>> be fine?
>> Should I stick with normal width gears if I'm going to use a fixed-free
>> hub on a one speed?
>>
>> thanks for any help
>>
>> ted
>>
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Re: [RBW] fixed-free hubs & chain line

[Patrick Moore]

BTW, I agree with the others that 3/32 cogs and derailleur chain works more
than fine for fixed and ss applications. What's neat is that you can use,
say, a 10 speed chain for your 3/32 track cog and join the ends with a 8
speed masterlink (all of which I've done).

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I've never had any problems with 1/8" or 3/32" chains, ss chains or
> derailleur chains, used for fixed or single fw drivetrains; I've found that
> a few mm either way makes no difference.
>
> What do you mean by "particular", in particular? IE, what are the symptoms
> or problems you experience?
>
> Is it possible you have the chain too tight?
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 8:13 AM, ted  wrote:
>
>>
>> I would like some advice please.
>>
>> From experience I've found that a 1/8" track ring/cog/chain drive train
>> can be particular about chain line.
>> I've noticed that the chainline for the fixed and free sides of the Paul
>> high flange hub are different.
>> So now I'm wondering, is that typical for fixed-free hubs?
>> Does the thinner cog on a single speed fw afford enough slop that one can
>> set up the fixed side precisely with 1/8" stuff and the fw flip side will
>> be fine?
>> Should I stick with normal width gears if I'm going to use a fixed-free
>> hub on a one speed?
>>
>> thanks for any help
>>
>> ted
>>
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[RBW] Re: fixed-free hubs & chain line

[BSWP]

I'm running a 1/8 chain on my QuickBeam, which has a single ring in front, 
and a Dos Eno and fixed cog on the rear. My chain line is not "perfect" but 
I'm not seeing any unusual wear on the cogs - that is, the wear seems even 
on both sides. What I find more critical is getting the front chain ring 
perfectly concentric with the BB spindle. This takes time and patience, to 
achieve uniform chain tension through the entire rotation of the big ring. 
When it's just right, it's delicious!

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 7:13:56 AM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>
>
> I would like some advice please.
>
> From experience I've found that a 1/8" track ring/cog/chain drive train 
> can be particular about chain line.
> I've noticed that the chainline for the fixed and free sides of the Paul 
> high flange hub are different.
> So now I'm wondering, is that typical for fixed-free hubs?
> Does the thinner cog on a single speed fw afford enough slop that one can 
> set up the fixed side precisely with 1/8" stuff and the fw flip side will 
> be fine?
> Should I stick with normal width gears if I'm going to use a fixed-free 
> hub on a one speed?
>
> thanks for any help
>
> ted
>
>

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Re: [RBW] fixed-free hubs & chain line

[Patrick Moore]

I've never had any problems with 1/8" or 3/32" chains, ss chains or
derailleur chains, used for fixed or single fw drivetrains; I've found that
a few mm either way makes no difference.

What do you mean by "particular", in particular? IE, what are the symptoms
or problems you experience?

Is it possible you have the chain too tight?

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 8:13 AM, ted  wrote:

>
> I would like some advice please.
>
> From experience I've found that a 1/8" track ring/cog/chain drive train
> can be particular about chain line.
> I've noticed that the chainline for the fixed and free sides of the Paul
> high flange hub are different.
> So now I'm wondering, is that typical for fixed-free hubs?
> Does the thinner cog on a single speed fw afford enough slop that one can
> set up the fixed side precisely with 1/8" stuff and the fw flip side will
> be fine?
> Should I stick with normal width gears if I'm going to use a fixed-free
> hub on a one speed?
>
> thanks for any help
>
> ted
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA Pants | Olive/Brown / Size Medium / VGC

[WheelsOfSteel]

sold

On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 11:04:06 PM UTC-8, WheelsOfSteel wrote:
>
> craigslist ad with photos here:
>
>
> https://medford.craigslist.org/bop/d/rivendell-musa-pants-olive/6508954308.html
>
> These are the previous generation with the zippers and reflective strips 
> at the bottom of the pant legs. $40 shipped CONUS. Please email me.
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[RBW] Re: fixed-free hubs & chain line

[Jeremy Till]

I'm not sure what you mean by "normal width gears" but I ran flip-flop hubs 
for many years with 3/32" chains (usually SRAM 8spd ones) and the 
chainlines on each side of the hub were always close enough.  Honestly, I 
was never precise about measuring rear chainline. I just tried to get my 
chainring as close to 42mm as possible, that being the nominal chainline 
for the "standard" flip-flop hubs I was using (Formula, Phil, Surly).  I do 
remember that Paul hubs used a non-standard chainline, something like 
44mm?  

Unless you're doing a build that completely uses track components (in which 
case you'd be less likely to be using a flip-flop hub with freewheel), I 
feel like 3/32" is the way to go for real-world single cog setups.  Many 
more options for crank/chainring choices, easier/cheaper to find 
high-quality chains, more tolerant of slight chainline error, etc
 
On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 7:13:56 AM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>
>
> I would like some advice please.
>
> From experience I've found that a 1/8" track ring/cog/chain drive train 
> can be particular about chain line.
> I've noticed that the chainline for the fixed and free sides of the Paul 
> high flange hub are different.
> So now I'm wondering, is that typical for fixed-free hubs?
> Does the thinner cog on a single speed fw afford enough slop that one can 
> set up the fixed side precisely with 1/8" stuff and the fw flip side will 
> be fine?
> Should I stick with normal width gears if I'm going to use a fixed-free 
> hub on a one speed?
>
> thanks for any help
>
> ted
>
>

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[RBW] fixed-free hubs & chain line

[Deacon Patrick]

Ted, the details of chainline and all the factors that go into it are lost on 
me. I work with Rivendell to guide me through it in setting things up. However, 
I’ve learned that many single/fixed freewheels/cogs that aren’t track specific 
say they are designed for 8 or 9 speed, especially Dos ENO, Dingle Cogs, etc. 
Everything I’ve seen says 1/8 chain is not what it used to be, so the arguement 
of longer life is moot. I just ride 9-speed chain, which is designed to have 
some flex in chainline, so the minor differences in a singlespeed or fixed set 
up will be no big deal, especially compared with a 9-speed cassette and triple 
chainring. Not sure if that helps you or not.

With abandon,
Patrick 

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[RBW] FS: Shimano XTR Rear Derailleur - RD-M900 - $50 Shipped CONUS

[Ken Yokanovich]

No reply from seller to PM, presume sold?

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[RBW] Sam Hillborne Reimagined

[Deacon Patrick]

Beautiful bike! Great glamour shots! I’m always amazed how much practice 
practicing contentment takes! Grin.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Riv headbadge T-shirt?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yes, or one using the art that a list member recently shared for a poster, 
featuring* all *the head badges. Though I will say, it is much harder than 
you think to make money on t-shirts if you are not a t-shirt company. 
Stocking the sizes, colors, then print costs, etc. you don't really make 
much.

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> Has Riv ever offered T-shirts with headbadges of your favorite model?
>
> They would be nice to collect. 
>
> Tom
>
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[RBW] Re: fixed-free hubs & chain line

[Cyclofiend Jim]

I played around with 1/8" stuff and really never found any significant 
benefit to it. It always seemed to be a bit more reactive to non-linear 
chainline. 



On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 7:13:56 AM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>
>
> I would like some advice please.
>
> From experience I've found that a 1/8" track ring/cog/chain drive train 
> can be particular about chain line.
> I've noticed that the chainline for the fixed and free sides of the Paul 
> high flange hub are different.
> So now I'm wondering, is that typical for fixed-free hubs?
> Does the thinner cog on a single speed fw afford enough slop that one can 
> set up the fixed side precisely with 1/8" stuff and the fw flip side will 
> be fine?
> Should I stick with normal width gears if I'm going to use a fixed-free 
> hub on a one speed?
>
> thanks for any help
>
> ted
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv headbadge T-shirt?

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Have never seen one. 

Though I know a few RBW Crew people are on the list, it would certainly 
help to forward this idea directly to the home office. 

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 5:56:19 AM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>
> Has Riv ever offered T-shirts with headbadges of your favorite model?
>
> They would be nice to collect. 
>
> Tom
>
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[RBW] Re: Unsafe helmets

[Jonathan D.]

I don’t want to weigh into politics on this forum but I thought this was a good 
story on this issue. 
https://bikeportland.org/2018/02/23/local-bike-shops-come-to-terms-with-their-industrys-ties-to-the-nra-269395

Also a another good reason to support Rivendell, nitto, etc this weekend and 
always. 

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[RBW] Re: Unsafe helmets

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Since I've said the same thing to a number of group members who contacted 
me privately:

February/March has been a tough month historically.  It's when comments 
seem to suddenly turn caustic and umbrage taken in excess of what is 
appropriate. It hasn't played out for a few years now, but event back when 
we numbered in the hundreds and this was an email-based group, it would 
rear up, making good & calm individuals suddenly edgy and flippant. Then it 
would spiral in intensity until needlessly nasty words spilled out. We'd 
have to do a bit of a hard reset. 

The best way to end a thread is not respond to it. 

The quality of this list is dependent upon the members. A good signal to 
noise ratio depends upon good signal levels. 

Thank you all for your continued contributions to this group.

- Jim (now rolling back out from this rest stop...)


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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Reimagined

[Bob Warner]

Beautiful bike!   Love how you set this up.   That's a ride to cherish!

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[RBW] Riv headbadge T-shirt?

[Drw]

I was thinking something similar with all of this Hail Mary stuff going on.The 
t-shirts they make can’t cost too much overhead and they sell out really fast 
and there is probably more profit in them than many other things they sell. It 
seems like a direction that they could go in. 

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[RBW] BUY A FRAMESET OR JUST SOME PARTS

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

Everyone here knows Rivendell means quality as well as comfort and quality 
performance. They sell what they ride and it just works.
Now is the time to buy a frameset that you have always wanted.If not for 
now maybe to build up later.
If you can't swing a frameset.Stock up some parts for your existing Riv 
bike. You are going to need at some point chains, chain rings, 
cassettes, new cables and housing, tubes & tires. How about those cork 
grips, bar tape? They would look good on that special handle bar you have 
always wanted to try. If you have a front rack you should try one of those 
Wald medium baskets with a basket net to hold your shop sack in place.
Now is the time to get parts for your salty commuter bike and be ready  for 
spring.
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Reimagined

[Jacob]

Great bike and great photos too!  Love those brakes and fenders. This is 
why I wish to be tall enough for a double TT.
It's always wise to heed the Deacon.

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Reimagined

[Carla Waugh]

Your Sam looks perfect and I’m glad you reimagined it!! I bet you get lots of 
looks and happy miles/smiles from it!

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Reimagined

[Austin]

Beautiful build Tim--your post in a word is: Inspiring! 

Part of my affliction, (er "hobby") is reimagining how my bikes are 
configured. Having 3 bikes, I am constantly swapping out parts, testing & 
learning. riding, and standing back to admire what I've created. It helps 
to keep my n+1 desires in check and is very much in line with Patrick's 
sentiment. One of the things I like about Rivendell in general and the Sam 
in particular is how well these bikes take to my tinkering. And outside of 
truing a wheel or making frame repairs, I'm a self-sufficient bike mechanic 
as a result. I learn so much and get so many ideas reading post from people 
on this group.

If it ever stops raining here in Maryland today, I'm getting out on my 
identically-framed 2TT 62cm Sam. Until then, I'll be out in the garage...

Cheers,
Austin


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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Reimagined

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

Beautiful!
A perfect match of quality components.
You will get many enjoyable miles with your set-up.
Thanks for sharing..
Jon (looseheadset on IG)

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Reimagined

[Bob Lovejoy]

Perfect!!  Well decided and certainly well done...  It is complete magic 
and a gift when a bike makes us smile and lets us use the word glorious! 
 Here's to many great rides and adventures this year and beyond.

Beautiful bike and build!

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL


On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-6, Tim Bantham wrote:
>
> Hello Riv Friends, Not long ago I posted about possibly replacing my Sam 
> with a Roadini. I had switched my existing Sam to an upright touring rig 
> but missed riding my drop bar bike. I ended up buying a new Appaloosa to be 
> my touring/camping bike and I rebuilt my Sam into a sporty road bike. We 
> had a rare break in the winter weather so yesterday I took it out for a 15 
> mile ride. It was glorious! As I was riding I was thinking about Deacon 
> Patrick's advice of having gratitude for what I already own. Of course his 
> words were much more eloquent then that but the basic premise of his 
> message was the same. I am so thankful I listened to DP because the Sam is 
> just about the perfect bike for going out on my version of a fast road 
> ride. 
>
> Build Details: 
>
> 62cm Sam Hillborne 2TT 
> Wheels - Alex Rims - original stock
> Tires - 38 mm Compass Barlow Pass
> Fenders - 45 mm Velo Orange Hammered Aluminum
> Cranks: Sugino 175mm 48x34 rings
> Brakes: Paul Racer with Paul Moon Units
> Cassette: SRAM 12x34
> Chain: KMC X9
> Saddle: Brooks B17 Special
> Saddle Bag: Sackville X-Small
> Bars: 46cm Nitto Noodle
> Stem: Nitto 8cm 
> Pedals: Shimano PDA600
>
> Photos Here:
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmeT954u
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Unsafe helmets

[RichS]

Jim,

Didn’t you just apply your moderator’s wisdom a weeks ago?

Thank you again for stepping in to keep the conversation civil.

Best regards,
Richard

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[RBW] Sam Hillborne Reimagined

[Tim Bantham]

Hello Riv Friends, Not long ago I posted about possibly replacing my Sam 
with a Roadini. I had switched my existing Sam to an upright touring rig 
but missed riding my drop bar bike. I ended up buying a new Appaloosa to be 
my touring/camping bike and I rebuilt my Sam into a sporty road bike. We 
had a rare break in the winter weather so yesterday I took it out for a 15 
mile ride. It was glorious! As I was riding I was thinking about Deacon 
Patrick's advice of having gratitude for what I already own. Of course his 
words were much more eloquent then that but the basic premise of his 
message was the same. I am so thankful I listened to DP because the Sam is 
just about the perfect bike for going out on my version of a fast road 
ride. 

Build Details: 

62cm Sam Hillborne 2TT 
Wheels - Alex Rims - original stock
Tires - 38 mm Compass Barlow Pass
Fenders - 45 mm Velo Orange Hammered Aluminum
Cranks: Sugino 175mm 48x34 rings
Brakes: Paul Racer with Paul Moon Units
Cassette: SRAM 12x34
Chain: KMC X9
Saddle: Brooks B17 Special
Saddle Bag: Sackville X-Small
Bars: 46cm Nitto Noodle
Stem: Nitto 8cm 
Pedals: Shimano PDA600

Photos Here:

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmeT954u


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[RBW] fixed-free hubs & chain line

[ted]

I would like some advice please.

>From experience I've found that a 1/8" track ring/cog/chain drive train can 
be particular about chain line.
I've noticed that the chainline for the fixed and free sides of the Paul 
high flange hub are different.
So now I'm wondering, is that typical for fixed-free hubs?
Does the thinner cog on a single speed fw afford enough slop that one can 
set up the fixed side precisely with 1/8" stuff and the fw flip side will 
be fine?
Should I stick with normal width gears if I'm going to use a fixed-free hub 
on a one speed?

thanks for any help

ted

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[RBW] FS: MUSA Pants | Olive/Brown / Size Medium / VGC

[Andrew Huston]

Pm’d

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[RBW] Riv headbadge T-shirt?

[tc]

Has Riv ever offered T-shirts with headbadges of your favorite model?

They would be nice to collect. 

Tom

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