Re: [RBW] Re: Banana sax reviews needed. Stuff fall out?

[Tim Butterfield]

This thread pushed me over the edge also.  Mine should arrive Monday along
with an Otto lock.  I got the brown sax so I could use it with both my blue
Homer and green Atlantis.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 12:35 PM Conway Bennett <
captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This thread plus that the blue was going away pushed and that I gave my
> wife my baggins hobo bag pushed me over the edge.  I just ordered the
> banana sax and a bosco bars for my tandem.
>
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[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

[Adam in Indiana]

I have to agree, having a brazed on canti hanger "hanging" there unused while 
using v-brakes would bother me for whatever unsound reason...

I have one of Surly's cable hangers, very similar to Nitto's.  They really do 
an elegant job of the whole thing.

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog and Coconut Oil

[Austin B.]

Good point about doctors knowing so much that isn't true! How many times 
does the medical guidance flip-flop on coffee? (and I love my coffee!)

My doctor did admit there was little research available on the health 
benefits of coconut oil, despite his hesitations. It's one 
easily-replaceable food to let go of. He didn't try to get me off the low 
carb eating--how could he, all my other numbers were up!

I will continue with my low-carb eating ways. It just works for me on so 
many levels.

Austin

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sakae cranks, Suntour derailers, coin purses, etc.

[Joe Bernard]

"But your listing was for 40-30-28...It's 50-40-28"

Oh. Well I'm an idiot so that's gonna happen 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sakae cranks, Suntour derailers, coin purses, etc.

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

But your listing was for 40-30-28...It's 50-40-28

On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 6:01:04 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Nope, the granny ring is stamped 28. I was surprised, too. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sakae cranks, Suntour derailers, coin purses, etc.

[Joe Bernard]

Nope, the granny ring is stamped 28. I was surprised, too. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sakae cranks, Suntour derailers, coin purses, etc.

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Joe, my RB-T had 50-40-30. Which makes sense, cause that's what yours 
are;^)

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 12:58:09 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: *Much 
clearing of the parts drawers commences. Prices are shipped CONUS obo.1. 
Sakae cranks, take-offs from Bstone RB-T, 28-30-40, $40*
>
>
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[RBW] FS: Sakae cranks, Suntour derailers, coin purses, etc.

[Joe Bernard]

Sold: All Suntour derailers, Claris, skewers, coin purses, Suntour bar-ends.

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog and Coconut Oil

[Dave Small]

I've done my own research on cholesterol and agree with Deacon.  

I've been keto since last June.  I pig out on meat and eggs and low-carb 
vegetables, and don't count calories but keep my daily carb count below 
about 35 grams.  During the first 6 months or so I lost weight, rapidly at 
first then more slowly until it leveled off and has been remarkably 
consistent over the past 3 months or so.  I now weigh more than I did in 
high school but less than I did in college, which I never ever thought 
would happen.  I feel better, look better, have more energy, and the belly 
I carried with me for 40 years is gone.  I could go on, but it's all in the 
same vein.  The only downside is that I've had to buy all new clothes, but 
I can live with that.  

I was scheduled to go in for a physical about a month after I started keto, 
and postponed it 3 months so I'd be stable on keto when I had my blood work 
done.  All my blood lipids were well within the "normal" range, and my 
total cholesterol was lower than it's ever been.  I've never had a total 
cholesterol concentration that was above the threshold for "high," but it 
was typically not far south of that.  It's 35 points lower now, and well 
within anyone's definition of normal. It's counterintuitive that all those 
ribs and sausage and eggs and hamburger would lower my cholesterol, but it 
did.  

I've come to believe that most of what we've been taught about diet is 
wrong.  Cholesterol has long been one of the medical community's boogymen, 
and I just don't buy it.  I don't see that eliminating coconut oil will do 
anything, but if you want to try it then it certainly won't hurt anything.  

Dave

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[RBW] Re: Banana sax reviews needed. Stuff fall out?

[Conway Bennett]

This thread plus that the blue was going away pushed and that I gave my wife my 
baggins hobo bag pushed me over the edge.  I just ordered the banana sax and a 
bosco bars for my tandem. 

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[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

[Rod Holland]

Grant,

Thanks for the clarification. I was just staring at the Sam frame and 
scratching my head, wondering what 3rd-party hangers would be compatible 
(but hadn't asked Mr. Google yet). Will ask you guys instead, much better.

rod

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 11:36:05 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> We have cable hangers, diff kinds front and rear..it's just (now) one of 
> the things you pick. When we included short adjustables, people wanted long 
> ones, and vice versa. So now you just get the one you want, you plunk out 
> $10 or whatever it is, and everybody happy, unless you think it should be 
> included. (We'll trade one for your bottom bracket, ha. And seat post ha 
> and headset, and all those rack boss and bottle boss bolts, which so many 
> frames don't come with, ha. Ha.)
> V vs Canti
> They both WORK. V-brakes have a rep for being harder to modulate, but 
> modulation is in the hand muscles and brain waves, not the lever. It's like 
> saying "power brakes make me skid." You get used to them quick. I used to 
> dis V-brakes, but then...man, it's really hard to once you've used them in 
> stressy downhills. I like the looks of cantilevers, and I'd go with cantis 
> on Sams or 42mm tires or smaller (or thereabouts, it's not a hard line). 
> But for fatties, V's. Not hands down, but yes, they'd be my first. And 
> they're so easy to ... deal with, in the way that you deal with brakes. 
> The new Dia-Compe cantis and the Shimano CX-50, and Paul's are all good, 
> too. 
>
> The rear cable hanger absence: It makes sense to HAVE it if you use 
> cantilevers, but if you have V-brakes it goes unused, and since Nitto makes 
> such great little cable hangers. I think the tiny rear NITTO hangers are 
> some of the neatest things NITTO makes. They put so much work into such 
> small parts and make them look so good. I'm not winning any of these 
> arguments, but they aren't winnable on either side. It's just a style 
> thing, and all options are good!
>
> On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 7:41:11 AM UTC-7, d2mini wrote:
>>
>> Just received my SH Canti frame and realized there was no cable hangers 
>> included, permanent or otherwise.
>> Had to order some for front and back.
>> They went through the trouble to weld on the brake mounts... why not a 
>> rear cable hanger? Or tossing in some add-ons with included headset and 
>> seat post?
>> Not a big deal, just kinda curious on that decision.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog and Coconut Oil

[Joe Bernard]

"Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?" 

'Yes.' 

"Morons!"

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog and Coconut Oil

[Trenker]

You really have to wonder why doctors don't just go to bicycle chat groups 
when they need scientific advice. What a bunch of dummies, eh?

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[RBW] Nitto rack on the Big Step-through

[MartyG]

I think this came up a while back: The Granary Bicycle Company selling 
custom Nitto front racks for cheap. (as in $49.00) I took a chance and 
bought one, hoping it might work on one of my Riv bikes. (Well, that and 
it's my namesake rack for pete's sake!) Turns out it works great with Paul 
cantis with the Paul rack bolt - something that has defied every rack I've 
tried because the brake with rack-bolt sticks out so far. A little minor 
tweaking and it dropped right in. Bigger than the standard Nitto mini, with 
a headlight mount and fender boss. I like it! 











Your application may vary, but for Paul brake bikes this may be the ticket. 
Still available at $49.00. 

http://www.thegranarybicyclecompany.com/product/martin-pecheur-touring-bicycle-front-rack-by-nitto/


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[RBW] Staff Bikes

[Joe Bernard]

There's some new additions, including two very cool pink bikes (I love pink 
frames and parts). Check out Roman's matte pink Legolas and Amy-Mark's-wife's 
fuschia custom cross. I met Amy on a trail at Mt. Diablo a couple years 
ago..the fuschia with blue ano in the bright sun is off the charts!

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/staff-bikes

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe saddlebag, medium?

[Joe Bernard]

SOLD.

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[RBW] Eat Bacon Don't Jog and Coconut Oil

[Deacon Patrick]

Great job! Cholesterol isn’t what doctors think it is, doesn’t mean what 
doctors think it means, and cholesterol blood work doesn’t mean what they think 
it means. This is the conclusion I came to based on personal experience as well 
as a variety of research, which is well summed up in various posts on Mark 
Sisson’s blog. https://www.marksdailyapple.com/?s=cholesterol

My suspicion is that a body that has been high carb for a lifetime and become 
low carb takes time to adjust, so number may spike in the first year plus. Mine 
spiked, freaked out my doctor, but I told her I wasn’t going to change anything 
and I was not going on any meds. She’s since shrugged, acknowledging doctors 
have a lot they don’t know but think they do (like what to do with people like 
me!), so no reason to test further unless I want to know my numbers. I don’t.

When I was in for emergency surgery at some point, we had to constantly monitor 
that they did not sneak glucose drips onto my IV. They were baffled by my 
ketone numbers, thinking I had diabetes (nothing even close), and they kept 
trying to slam water into me thinking I was dehydrated (I wasn’t). I just 
fasted the whole time I was there (that really freaked them out!). Pretty sure 
they were happy to see my dressed backside head out the door. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Betty's an eBike Now

[Joe Bernard]

Hi KC, I'll PM you about specific kit stuff, but will address the bike 
candidate question here. 

All things being equal - especially with the absurdly powerful motor I'm 
running, this thing would get me tossed out of Europe - a bike with v-brakes or 
discs like your SOMA can run is a better idea. My Cheviot is a great platform 
due to the stable handling, long wheelbase and low stepover, but it's my eRiv 
because I wanted a Cheviot and started it as a regular 2-speed bike, then 
decided it would be fun with a motor. I'm an experienced ebiker who knows how 
to avoid getting into braking situations that aren't healthy,  and just added 
those funky red pads to increase the calipers' grip, but realistically this 
bike is underbraked for the application.

For anyone who really likes Rivs and really wants an electric one, get one of 
the long-stay canti/v-brake models. A mid-drive MIT Atlantis would be 
fantastic!   

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[RBW] Eat Bacon Don't Jog and Coconut Oil

[Austin B.]

So I've been doing the low-carb Eat Bacon Don't Jog thing since the 
beginning of the year. Over the past several months I've experimented found 
some good, low carb eats. A few of my go-to's:

   - Frittatas with ham, sausage, bacon and/or veggies
   - Fake pancakes (from EBDJ)
   - Coconut "cereal" with greek yogurt and macadamia nuts (also EBDJ)
   - Almonds
   - Bacon!
   - Eggs of all kinds
   - Salmon with avacado, fresh chunky salsa, pepper, cheese and a 
   hard-boiled egg as a brown-bag lunch at work
   - 85%-90% Dark Chocolate as a dessert treat
   - And others...
   
I've also been doing a large glob of coconut oil + heavy cream in my 
morning coffee for breakfast. (I've gotten to prefer it that way). Based on 
EBDJ chapter, it looked like it had many benefits--and I had also done some 
research that it can increase LDL (bad cholesterol).  But it would also 
keep me going until lunch pretty consistently.

The results?

   - Eating significantly less processed foods
   - I've lost about 13 lbs. 
   - I don't get hunger pangs/cravings, etc. and can easily turn away 
   snacks.
   
However, just back from the doctor yesterday with results of my annual 
blood panel. My LDL (normally very low) had risen just over the "high" 
level of 126 and my total cholesterol had risen as well. Had a conversation 
with my doctor about it and he convinced me to abandon the coconut oil. I'm 
now trying a pat of butter + cream in my coffee as breakfast now.

All that said, my other markers were all improved and my blood glucose 
decreased a good bit (blood glucose + weight loss was my main reason for 
starting all this). I will continue my low-carb ways minus the coconut oil 
and continue to research ways to get the LDL number down.

Curious what others do on this diet, what they've learned, and what their 
results have been. Please share!

Austin Bishop
Sykesville, MD

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[RBW] Re: FS: Hupe, D-A Levers, Clothing & Misc.

[islaysteve]

All gone except the jersey and jacket.  I'm open to offers before I donate 
them.  Thanks,
Steve

On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 10:20:11 AM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:
>
> D-A levers and Hupe are spoken for, pending (my) shipping quote and final 
> payment.  So the $99 deal no longer works.  I will re-post if anything 
> changes.
> Cheers, Steve
>
> On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 6:36:55 AM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:
>>
>> (Cross-posted from iBob): 
>> I have the following items for sale.  Prices do not include shipping.  
>> Here’s the link to photos (I’ve allowed access, but please let me know if 
>> it doesn’t work):  https://photos.app.goo.gl/SPWpaY2y4Tsu5TwC7
>>
>> Pearl Izumi cycling jacket, blue, size M.  Single-layer wind jacket.  
>> Several years old but little wear, other than the elastic is somewhat old.  
>> One small pocket inside useable for keys.  Reflective piping.  Fits snug 
>> like P-I tends to do.  $20.
>>
>> Zoic short sleeve cycling jersey, size L, grey.  Quarter-zip.  Nearly 
>> new, worn a few times.  One large and one small zippered pocket in rear.  
>> $20.
>>
>> Dura Ace Brake shift levers, 8-speed.  The original Shimano D-A 
>> brifters.  Good condition with very slight scuffing on front, hoods show 
>> normal wear.  Front cover name plates are faded, shown removed in photos 
>> but I will send with brifters.  New plates can be purchased on eBay. Note:  
>> These levers will shift some but not all Shimano 8-speed groups.  If 
>> interested, I can provide further info.  These go for much more on eBay, 
>> I’d rather pass them on to list members.  $45/pr.
>>
>> Rivendell Hupe detachable rear bag support.  If you are not familiar with 
>> this item, please research to see how it works, info might still be up on 
>> the Riv site.  Note:  Prone to scratching your frame.  I have covered the 
>> offending end with a plastic cap, but this is no guarantee that it will not 
>> scratch.  Use at your own (frame’s) risk.  $10.
>>
>> Delta fork mount.  This is normally mounted to a pickup bed or similar 
>> location.  Shown on my Miata (Bleriot and Miata not included!).  This is a 
>> very strong version with loops in the levers to provide for a lock.  The 
>> mounting holes on this one have been enlarged slightly to accomodate the 
>> mounting area on my car.  If anything, this provides some flexibility for 
>> mounting.  $10.
>>
>> Sea Sucker “Rear Wheel Strap”:  This is a strong suction cup with a 
>> velcro wheel strap to hold down a wheel; attaches to car body and is 
>> removable.  Similar to this one: 
>> https://www.seasucker.com/collections/rack-accessories/products/rear-wheel-strap.
>>   
>> Works very well.  This and the fork mount above were used to create a trunk 
>> mount on my Miata.  I no longer have that car so am passing the mounts 
>> along.  $35 for Sea Sucker (sells new for $55).  
>>
>> Or take all of the above for $99 plus shipping.  PM me via this list, 
>> reply here, or email directly to:  alkiremx5_at_veri2on_dot_n3t.  I will 
>> quote shipping based on items and your zip code.  Thanks for looking!  Steve
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks for the BOB Gazettes and RR00! I’m riding a brevet today but will
get them uploaded as soon as I’ve got time at a computer.


Best,
Reed Kennedy
Somewhere around Martinez, CA

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 9:20 AM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> You'd probably want a Best Of kind of format. Maybe a project for Grant in
> retirement--published by Compass?
>
>
> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 6:28:24 AM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> It would be quite a book. I have nearly every reader— they make a stack
>> maybe a foot high.
>>
>> On Friday, May 11, 2018, Jan O.  wrote:
>>
> Thank you all for sharing the files and to Grant for giving permission.
>>> Love the idea of a coffee table book.
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You'd probably want a Best Of kind of format. Maybe a project for Grant in 
retirement--published by Compass?

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> It would be quite a book. I have nearly every reader— they make a stack 
> maybe a foot high. 
>
> On Friday, May 11, 2018, Jan O.  wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for sharing the files and to Grant for giving permission. 
>> Love the idea of a coffee table book.
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[RBW] Re: GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

[Jeffrey Arita]

Hey Bill,

Have a BLAST on the GDMBR!  Looks like you have prepped very well.

Will the ACA allow you to start from Jasper, this being the 20th 
Anniversary of the GD?  The ACA is supposed to have the map section for the 
Canada portion updated to have the new terminus in Jasper (vs. Banff) by 
June 15th or so.  An additional 387 miles, through some of the most 
gorgeous scenery on the planet.  My wife called and their website says June 
15 but verbally they are not committing to any specific date for public 
availability of the revised map section :(

My wife and I are headed back up to Butte, MT late June / early July.  We 
are northbounders.  Last year we departed Puerto Palomas (alternate 
end/start) and made it to Butte before the first snows hit in 
mid-September.  We hit the pause button in 2017.  So, we are hitting the 
re-start button and maybe we will encounter you later this year?  When do 
you depart?

Best regards,

Jeff

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 3:52:24 PM UTC-7, Bill Schairer wrote:
>
> Just received final confirmation (on my 65th birthday) from AC that our 
> tour from Banff to Whitefish on the GDMBR is officially a go. I have been 
> excitedly prepping myself and my Atlantis for this adventure. Hanging from 
> the frame will be:
>
>
> Bruce Gordon front and rear racks
>
> VO decaleur front rack
>
> 3 cheapo/clearance water bottle cages from Nashbar
>
> B17 saddle, very well broken in and so comfortable
>
> Sugino triple 46/36/24
>
> Shimano A530 pedals (spd one side, platform the other)
>
> Suntour Cyclone FD
>
> Suntour VGT RD
>
> Suntour bar-end friction shifters
>
> Shimano HG-400-9 12-36 cassette
>
> Crane Creek brake levers on Specialized 40mm drop bars (swapped from 
> stoker position on tandem for Albastache)
>
> Shimano cantilever brakes
>
> Deore LX 32/36 hubs laced by RL to Velocity Synergy 700C rims
>
> Schwalbe Mondial 50mm tires (measure at 47-48 @ 40 psi on the Velocity 
> rims)
>
>
> I’ve decided against fenders because clearance is so tight, I am not sure 
> I can fit them in the bike box, it will simplify break down and reassembly 
> (which I’ll be doing myself), and it will reduce toe overlap. I may decide 
> to borrow 40 hole, White Industries, Velocity Dyad front wheel from tandem 
> but probably not. I’ll box the bike myself in a Bikeflights cardboard box 
> and check for $25 on Alaskan Airlines.
>
> May opt for a smaller water bottle on the bottom - that’s pretty tight. 
> 40+ year old Kirtland handlebar bag, Beckman front and rear panniers. I 
> suspect there will be some modifications yet as I ride and fiddle. 
> Certainly, this is no UL rig but I can and have lifted it over obstacles as 
> much as 2 ft high.  Maybe I'll be lucky and get a "whatever it takes" 
> comment.
>
> I have plenty of touring experience but do not have a lot of off-pavement 
> experience. I have been doing some practicing here in San Diego to try to 
> get ready. I have successfully taken this unloaded up a about half-mile 
> 15-22% gravel grade but only made it up about half way on my one and only 
> loaded attempt. Pushing the rest of the way was no picnic. I will try again 
> doubtlessly. I’m a little concerned about climbs like this at altitude but 
> one way or another, I’ll manage. Interestingly (to me), I’ve found riding 
> loaded on gravel is easier for me (except for steepest grades) than 
> unloaded. I don’t have to concentrate so much on keeping my weight back or 
> worry about lifting the front wheel. The load also seems to smooth out the 
> rough a bit and the ride feels more stable to me. It is harder to correct 
> my line if I lose it though, especially climbing.
>
>
> As excited as I am, my wife is a bit peeved as I start on her birthday. 
> I’ve tried to explain that this is when the tour is offered so there really 
> wasn’t any choice and I’m getting to the point in life where I have to stop 
> dreaming of doing these things and just do them.
>
>
> Oh, and other RBW content, MUSA pants will double as my off bike pants and 
> rain/wind pants. My wife even gave me another pair for my birthday because 
> she knows I like them so much. Sorry for the length of post but I’m excited!
>
>
> Unloaded and loaded (projected) attached?
>
>
> Bill
>

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[RBW] Re: Betty's an eBike Now

[KC]

Joe, you have obviously converted several bikes to ebikes.  Looks like we 
may be moving to a hilly area that may warrant conversions to get us 
through a few areas.  Not sure if I would convert my Cheviot or Soma Groove 
(assume it can be converted and then I wouldn't be messing with my 
favorite).  Can you help with input on the process and determining if a 
bike is good candidate?  Please feel free to respond off the list if more 
appropriate.
thx

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Putting this here 'cause this is the unofficial Riv e-mixte thread. Took 
> the eChev fireroading, observe dirt!
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/bzGK46mLEYzeDXwb2
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[RBW] Re: FS: Blue Saddlesack - Medium - $185 shipped

[Belopsky]

On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 9:59:41 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> $170

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Re: [RBW] GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Definitely not waterproof, which would likely make them hot and 
uncomfortable. But the nylon dries super fast.

On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 6:25:42 AM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> I haven’t found my MUSA pants to be at all waterproof. Maybe add a spray 
> on coating?
>
> Enjoy the trip!
>
> On Friday, May 11, 2018, Bill Schairer  
> wrote:
>
>> Just received final confirmation (on my 65th birthday) from AC that our 
>> tour from Banff to Whitefish on the GDMBR is officially a go. I have been 
>> excitedly prepping myself and my Atlantis for this adventure. Hanging from 
>> the frame will be:
>>
>>
>> Bruce Gordon front and rear racks
>>
>> VO decaleur front rack
>>
>> 3 cheapo/clearance water bottle cages from Nashbar
>>
>> B17 saddle, very well broken in and so comfortable
>>
>> Sugino triple 46/36/24
>>
>> Shimano A530 pedals (spd one side, platform the other)
>>
>> Suntour Cyclone FD
>>
>> Suntour VGT RD
>>
>> Suntour bar-end friction shifters
>>
>> Shimano HG-400-9 12-36 cassette
>>
>> Crane Creek brake levers on Specialized 40mm drop bars (swapped from 
>> stoker position on tandem for Albastache)
>>
>> Shimano cantilever brakes
>>
>> Deore LX 32/36 hubs laced by RL to Velocity Synergy 700C rims
>>
>> Schwalbe Mondial 50mm tires (measure at 47-48 @ 40 psi on the Velocity 
>> rims)
>>
>>
>> I’ve decided against fenders because clearance is so tight, I am not sure 
>> I can fit them in the bike box, it will simplify break down and reassembly 
>> (which I’ll be doing myself), and it will reduce toe overlap. I may decide 
>> to borrow 40 hole, White Industries, Velocity Dyad front wheel from tandem 
>> but probably not. I’ll box the bike myself in a Bikeflights cardboard box 
>> and check for $25 on Alaskan Airlines.
>>
>> May opt for a smaller water bottle on the bottom - that’s pretty tight. 
>> 40+ year old Kirtland handlebar bag, Beckman front and rear panniers. I 
>> suspect there will be some modifications yet as I ride and fiddle. 
>> Certainly, this is no UL rig but I can and have lifted it over obstacles as 
>> much as 2 ft high.  Maybe I'll be lucky and get a "whatever it takes" 
>> comment.
>>
>> I have plenty of touring experience but do not have a lot of off-pavement 
>> experience. I have been doing some practicing here in San Diego to try to 
>> get ready. I have successfully taken this unloaded up a about half-mile 
>> 15-22% gravel grade but only made it up about half way on my one and only 
>> loaded attempt. Pushing the rest of the way was no picnic. I will try again 
>> doubtlessly. I’m a little concerned about climbs like this at altitude but 
>> one way or another, I’ll manage. Interestingly (to me), I’ve found riding 
>> loaded on gravel is easier for me (except for steepest grades) than 
>> unloaded. I don’t have to concentrate so much on keeping my weight back or 
>> worry about lifting the front wheel. The load also seems to smooth out the 
>> rough a bit and the ride feels more stable to me. It is harder to correct 
>> my line if I lose it though, especially climbing.
>>
>>
>> As excited as I am, my wife is a bit peeved as I start on her birthday. 
>> I’ve tried to explain that this is when the tour is offered so there really 
>> wasn’t any choice and I’m getting to the point in life where I have to stop 
>> dreaming of doing these things and just do them.
>>
>>
>> Oh, and other RBW content, MUSA pants will double as my off bike pants 
>> and rain/wind pants. My wife even gave me another pair for my birthday 
>> because she knows I like them so much. Sorry for the length of post but I’m 
>> excited!
>>
>>
>> Unloaded and loaded (projected) attached?
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
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[RBW] GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

[John G.]

Nothing prettier than a loaded Atlantis. Enjoy!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[MartyG]

Also sent BOB Gazette #1 and #2. I thought I had Zero, glad you found it 
Ed.  

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 11:05:58 PM UTC-4, ed wrote:
>
> I sent Reed RR00 in case he still does not have a copy.
> Ed Fausto
>
>
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[RBW] GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

[Pondero]

Very happy for you, Bill, and wish you the best on this adventure!

I applaud your plan and your preparation.  But what you said at the end of your 
post should be highlighted for many of us...

"...I'm getting to the point in life where I have to stop dreaming of doing 
these things and just do them."

Bravo!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, TX

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Eric Daume]

It would be quite a book. I have nearly every reader— they make a stack
maybe a foot high.

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Re: [RBW] GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

[Eric Daume]

I haven’t found my MUSA pants to be at all waterproof. Maybe add a spray on
coating?

Enjoy the trip!

On Friday, May 11, 2018, Bill Schairer  wrote:

> Just received final confirmation (on my 65th birthday) from AC that our
> tour from Banff to Whitefish on the GDMBR is officially a go. I have been
> excitedly prepping myself and my Atlantis for this adventure. Hanging from
> the frame will be:
>
>
> Bruce Gordon front and rear racks
>
> VO decaleur front rack
>
> 3 cheapo/clearance water bottle cages from Nashbar
>
> B17 saddle, very well broken in and so comfortable
>
> Sugino triple 46/36/24
>
> Shimano A530 pedals (spd one side, platform the other)
>
> Suntour Cyclone FD
>
> Suntour VGT RD
>
> Suntour bar-end friction shifters
>
> Shimano HG-400-9 12-36 cassette
>
> Crane Creek brake levers on Specialized 40mm drop bars (swapped from
> stoker position on tandem for Albastache)
>
> Shimano cantilever brakes
>
> Deore LX 32/36 hubs laced by RL to Velocity Synergy 700C rims
>
> Schwalbe Mondial 50mm tires (measure at 47-48 @ 40 psi on the Velocity
> rims)
>
>
> I’ve decided against fenders because clearance is so tight, I am not sure
> I can fit them in the bike box, it will simplify break down and reassembly
> (which I’ll be doing myself), and it will reduce toe overlap. I may decide
> to borrow 40 hole, White Industries, Velocity Dyad front wheel from tandem
> but probably not. I’ll box the bike myself in a Bikeflights cardboard box
> and check for $25 on Alaskan Airlines.
>
> May opt for a smaller water bottle on the bottom - that’s pretty tight.
> 40+ year old Kirtland handlebar bag, Beckman front and rear panniers. I
> suspect there will be some modifications yet as I ride and fiddle.
> Certainly, this is no UL rig but I can and have lifted it over obstacles as
> much as 2 ft high.  Maybe I'll be lucky and get a "whatever it takes"
> comment.
>
> I have plenty of touring experience but do not have a lot of off-pavement
> experience. I have been doing some practicing here in San Diego to try to
> get ready. I have successfully taken this unloaded up a about half-mile
> 15-22% gravel grade but only made it up about half way on my one and only
> loaded attempt. Pushing the rest of the way was no picnic. I will try again
> doubtlessly. I’m a little concerned about climbs like this at altitude but
> one way or another, I’ll manage. Interestingly (to me), I’ve found riding
> loaded on gravel is easier for me (except for steepest grades) than
> unloaded. I don’t have to concentrate so much on keeping my weight back or
> worry about lifting the front wheel. The load also seems to smooth out the
> rough a bit and the ride feels more stable to me. It is harder to correct
> my line if I lose it though, especially climbing.
>
>
> As excited as I am, my wife is a bit peeved as I start on her birthday.
> I’ve tried to explain that this is when the tour is offered so there really
> wasn’t any choice and I’m getting to the point in life where I have to stop
> dreaming of doing these things and just do them.
>
>
> Oh, and other RBW content, MUSA pants will double as my off bike pants and
> rain/wind pants. My wife even gave me another pair for my birthday because
> she knows I like them so much. Sorry for the length of post but I’m excited!
>
>
> Unloaded and loaded (projected) attached?
>
>
> Bill
>
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