[RBW] Re: Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

Benz asked: "So, is there any need for certification then?" Good question. I, for one, think that certification is useful -- IF that certification is a well-known industry standard, such as EN (which is the only one I've ever heard of). I guess my main point is simply this: Most retailers

[RBW] I got a new Clem!

Hehe, Erl, I've kinda given up trying to answer that question. I always say I'm not going to do another eRiv, then two months later I'm showing you guys pics of it. So it's a definite maybe  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] I got a new Clem!

Congratulations, Joe! That color looks great. Will this be a candidate for another e-conversion? Enjoy the ride! Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

This makes me honk about this list published recently regarding helmet safety and ratings. http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/desktopnews/new-tests-show-some-bike-helmets-protect-better-than-others I will definitely pay more for parts that meet a standard that is well defined and makes sense. If

[RBW] I got a new Clem!

The mid-to-later-life crisis continues! I've headed this butternut Clem H direction a few times, and always seem to end up somewhere else. Recently Riv had a couple 52cm frames on the Specials page, and I almost jumped then but no. Then Alex Wirth from Yellow Haus posted some Riv completes he

[RBW] Re: Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

Heat-treated handlebars are not necessarily stronger or more durable than non-heat-treated handlebars. You need to further know the alloy used, and the part's dimensions to derive these. For example, a thin-walled, heat-treated handlebar will likely be weaker and less durable than a stout

[RBW] Re: Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

I INSIST on every handlebar I buy to be tested to failure using well-established test standards on frequently calibrated and re-certified equipment. With those test results, I can then estimate how long I might have been able to use them on a bicycle, had I not paid the money to have them

[RBW] Re: FS: Hub Area Racks

Piggyback! Joe listed and sold a pair of hoopless Hub Area Racks for $170 shipped. Turns out I also have a hoopless hub-area rack and the matching bags that I could part with. Here's a photo of the setup on my singlespeed. They've been on a bike a couple times, and have carried things maybe

[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica X series saddles

The mistake you're going to see here was made at the factory - that's the bonding resin bleeding through - being squeezed through as the saddle stretched The mistake people make with Brooks is picking the wrong saddle for their riding position. My two

[RBW] Re: Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

No, I wouldn't. I think the current standards are fine and I never worry about my bars failing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

...also note the "they" DOES NOT mean Rivendell Bike Works, it refers to any given bar manufacturer who would raise MSRP as a marketing tool based on now deciding they need to hard sell their product as standardized when it has always been that way. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

...alot more $$ than their un-red-banded bars of the same model, I should say -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

I think we already pay more for those standardized bars. I mean, the Heat Treated red banded NITTO bars are alot more expensive than their unbanded bars, right? Now, I would not want to pay more if they started jacking the prices up higher than they are now by deciding they were going to use

[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica X series saddles

You can re-leather a saddle for less than new cost, and they now sell a longer bolt so you can get more life from it. The mistakes I see leading to short lifespan involve over application of "saddle sauce" ( I use Obenauf's from RBW) and over tensioning of the bolt. I'm 10 years on the oldest

[RBW] Would you pay more for handlebars if they were safety-certified?

Short Version: Would you pay more for handlebars (and stems) if the seller made clear that those bars and stems meet established safety standards, such as EN standards? Long Version: In a recent thread called "Dear Riv, Please Make a Wider Noodle," Grant told a story about how Nitto was sued

[RBW] FS: Hub Area Racks

Sold. Wid da quickness! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Wool at 100*+

Yeah, keep in mind my “jersey” is a plaid woven light cotton long sleeve work shirt, ala chambray. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Wool at 100*+

I'd never heard that; I'll have to be careful from now on, since rayon too uses harmful chemicals -- tho' all my rayon shirts are from Goodwill, so I suppose they're all environmental sunk cost, so to speak. But apparently a Swiss company, Litrax, uses mechanical and natural enzymes to break down

[RBW] Re: Brooks Flyer saddle 25$ + shipping

pm sent On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 4:00:13 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Paypal > Made my own cutout. > I like the Imperial Flyer I have better so goes to you. > 25$ + buyer pays shipping. > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] FS: Hub Area Racks

PMed, Daniel. You can text me at 415 seven eight six 46 two three if that doesn't work. The Google Groups interface SUCKS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica X series saddles

I've been riding two SA (non-X) saddles on my commuter and road bikes for years. It's the Lay-Z-Boy of leather saddles. I keep trying to transition to a modern road saddle but keep going back to the SAs like an old pair of comfy jeans. They are not super durable - the one on my commuter is

[RBW] Re: Brooks Flyer saddle 25$ + shipping

Cant pm from iphone Please email me at: john11.2...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Brooks Flyer saddle 25$ + shipping

Yes Will pm you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica X series saddles

I have the regular steel (now chromo) carriage Selle Anatomicas on all three of my bikes. One is four years old (the one on my 'car') and still going strong. I can't find a more comfortable saddle than these. They just work for my anatomy. Now, that being said, I have bent rails. Their

[RBW] FS: Hub Area Racks

Hi Joe. I’d love these but can’t PM. Would you mind getting in touch for purchase? Thanks, D. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS: Clearing out my stuff - Nitto, IRD, Dia Compe, PDW, VP, SRAM, Sunrace, Microshift, Wolftooth

Update on what's left & price drops: *Shifters & Brake Stuff* IRD Ratchet Brake Lever (pair) , brand new (actual pic ) - $85 shipped *Handlebar & Stem Stuff* PDW Whiskey

[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica X series saddles

Check out their sale page: https://selleanatomica.com/collections/factory-outlet On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 1:06:51 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Thanks for the info. > Now just looking for a good place to buy but seems to be a lock on the > pricing. Looks like $135-$199. > -- You

[RBW] Re: Cutting rack struts without a vice

This one takes the cake! Clayton Scott SF, CA On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 6:08:32 AM UTC-7, Daniel M wrote: > > Vice Grip on Vice Grip action. You saw it here first. > > Daniel M > Berkeley, CA > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica X series saddles

Thanks for the info. Now just looking for a good place to buy but seems to be a lock on the pricing. Looks like $135-$199. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] FS: Hub Area Racks

Non-hooped, I recently bought the last set from Riv. They work great (and easy to mount) but I can't talk myself into the silver look on my Lightning Bolt, so I'm going to sell these and get the black Crust front rack. $170 shipped. As seen on said Crust:

[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica X series saddles

Have them on our tandem and on my single bikes. No problems with any; still lots of threads in the adjusting bolt left. I've gotten some where on my shorts, but no digging into my thighs. It seems with S-A that your mileage will vary, but literally and figuratively. Tom Milani Alexandria, VA

Re: [RBW] Re: Wool at 100*+

I wore bamboo for a while till I learned all the junk used in processing it into a fabric. Cotton or wool now for me. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica X series saddles

I had them on all of my bikes until I discovered the Brooks C-17 Carved. They are okay for the first 100 miles, but they get wet from sweat and stretch too much for the 2nd hundred. My next saddle will probably be one the new Cambium All Weather C-17. On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 11:33:11 PM

[RBW] Selle Anatomica X series saddles

I bent the rails on the heavyweight version, but that was with the saddle almost all the way back. I'm around 210 and I love my Brooks saddles. -Kai BKNY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: OT/Giants-Diamondbacks Sunday 7/1

Oh, man! My Royals (yeah Rich, that's right, I'm still not over Baumgarner in WS '14) don't play the D-Backs this year and I would have loved to have gone but made plans to be in Sedona. It's soo freaking hot here! This place was not meant to be inhabited by human people types. There

Re: [RBW] Re: Wool at 100*+

Tangential question: has anyone used bamboo fiber/wood fiber/natural fiber jerseys for a while? How do they do as to comfort and longevity? Patrick Moore, who found a moth hole in the Sugoi jersey he wore Tuesday evening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Wool at 100*+

Fullylugged wrote: Recently got the new RUSA summer weight wool jersey (there is a heavier version too). Excellent in hot and humid weather. +1 on the new RUSA light weight jersey. My first ride in it was a hot, humid 200km day. The friend who came with me at one point commented on how she

[RBW] Re: Cutting rack struts without a vice

aand leave it to Google Groups to make it really difficult to post photos (or reply privately) from a mobile device AND to rotate the photo in the process. We all deserve better. Apple and Google USED to put the user first. Daniel M Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Recent Hunq Trip on the Erie

Marc, thanks for the report. I’m doing the same ride next month. I had a question about wild camping. I had considered getting a hotel room the first day when I arrive in Buffalo (my 20 YO son is dropping me off) would it be possible to find a spot to camp along the path not far from Buffalo? I

Re: [RBW] Re: Wool at 100*+

Agree on the light weight recommendation! Since I don’t need pockets in my riding clothes (I’ve got bags for that stuff), I’ve switched entirely to light weight ibex/icebreaker wool T’s and polos. MUCH better in warm temps than those super thick Swobo jerseys I’ve been riding in for the last 20

[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica X series saddles

Tried 2 and ran out of stretch in 6 mo/ I have a Brooks Select pushing 20,000 mi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Wool at 100*+

Recently got the new RUSA summer weight wool jersey (there is a heavier version too). Excellent in hot and humid weather. No nipple abrasion when wet, and no freezing when I go inside an air conditioned store or food stop on a long ride. Ebay is also a source for out of production but good

[RBW] Selle Anatomica X series saddles

Have them on 3 bikes. Love them. Got the 1st when RBW was selling them. Comfy from day 1. Don't wear as long as Brooks. Have had both slotted and unslotted and equally comfy for me. Get the one that goes with your weight. One of mine is drilled for laces. A prior owner did that to eliminate