Re: [RBW] WTB English Rain coat

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Deacon Patrick,

Which specific model of Hilltrek have you tried for your cycling activities?
Would you recommend their waterproof trousers (pants)?

Regards,
Edgar Fausto

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:05 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> If you don't find one used, consider Hilltrek in Scotland. Their double
> ventile or cotton analogy are both excellent and waterproof. I can't
> remember if Riv's offering was double, single, or a blend (double shoulder
> and arm?). Whatever it was, Hilltrek has a parallel. I love their cotton
> analogy (single ventile with an inner liner than mim ics the natural
> wicking of vapor and liquid out. Their lineup is a bit confusing at first,
> their workmanship is excellent and everything we've gotten from them is
> lasting beautifully under significant use. https://hilltrek.co.uk/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] A Genuine Pretend Anniversary Mixte

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

A Genuine Pretend Anniversary Mixte

Ever since the sketch and the mention of a 25th Rivendell Anniversary Mixte on 
the Blahg, I have been waiting like a kid on Christmas. The bikes I love are 
the mixtes/step-throughs and what an honor that a mixte was going to be the 
bike representing Rivendell Bicycle Works on their 25th. Since then, I’ve 
haunted the Blug and the Blahg, checking my traps for any hint of the rumored 
mixte coming to life. The fancy lugs, the Rivendell decal, the wispy, light 
ovalized tubes, the “One Bike To Rule Them All” decal I was jockeying to get 
Rivendell to place in some secret spot on the frame...I can’t forget about it. 

In a recent e-newlsetter, the AM was mentioned but then seemingly tabled. It’s 
inconceivable to me that this project may not happen. The lugs have been 
designed, and they look to have a hummingbird cut into the lugwork. And there’s 
no bird I love better than a hummingbird.

I was discussing (despairing) online with friends from the List and one of them 
said, “Why don’t you just get this in a custom? They might even make those lugs 
for you.” 

I am not a custom kind of gal. I love the stock Rivendells I have in my garage. 
But if the only way I can get an Anniversary Mixte is to make it out of a 
custom, well, there’s an idea. 

A Genuine Pretend Anniversary Mixte.

Grant is 65. The Gallup bike and the Longbolts bike are ahead of the AM in the 
queue. The lug maker is going out of business. It could be a very long time 
before the AM is in production. If ever.

I can’t be the only one whose heart was set on having this bike. Would anyone 
else want a Genuine Pretend Anniversary Mixte? Would it be over the top if I 
ordered it as a custom? Would anyone else do the same? Would we have a batch of 
them ordered? And if so, can I choose the color? RICH RED WITH SPARKLES AND 
CREAM ACCENTS.  Jewel-toned, like a hummingbird. 

This might be impossible. Too expensive, maybe Rivendell won’t agree to it, 
maybe it’s a bad idea - but I’d at least like to explore it. Reply if you have 
thoughts about it. This is fun, even if it turns out to be a pipe dream.
Leah

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[RBW] Re: FS: Assorted Rivendell Baggins Bags, plus Acorn handlebar bag and Velo-Orange seat bag

[ant ritchey]

PM sent on the hoss

On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 4:29:48 PM UTC-7, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> FS: Assorted Rivendell Baggins Bags, plus Acorn handlebar bag and 
> Velo-Orange seat bag 
>
>
> My good friend Mike (whose 66 cm Rambouillet I recently posted and sold to 
> a Riv lister) has also been a bit of a bag hoarder (as I am, too!) over the 
> years. He still rides, but not as much, and is in the process of 
> “de-accessioning”  — he now has 2 bikes and is keeping a few bags, but has 
> decided that these should go be enjoyed by others instead of sitting in a 
> closet. As he’s not list-active I’ve volunteered to find them new homes. 
>
>
> I’ve described them as best as I can — I’m not positive I’ve got the 
> Baggins model names correct — Mike doesn’t remember them, and my own memory 
> is fuzzy, too — so if it appears I’ve misidentified any, please let me know.
>
>
> All prices do not include shipping. Will charge actual shipping cost. 
>
>
> Rivendell Baggins Hoss? Saddlebag —this is a large saddlebag in good used 
> condition — some patina, but lots of life left. $125
>
>
> Rvendell Baggins medium saddlebag — not sure of the name. Well used, with 
> a lovely patina, and some dirt on the bottom, but in good functional shape 
> (and I love the leather’s look on this one!) $75
>
>
> Rivendell Baggins Candybar bag 1st generation — this and the medium 
> Baggins saddlebag are probably the most used ones, but still with lots of 
> life left — see photos.  $35 
>
>
> Rivendell Baggins Candybar bag 2nd generation — a bit wider and shorter 
> than the 1st generation bag, this one is essentially new, with little to no 
> use. $60
>
>
> Rivendell Baggins Pa Cartright panniers with Arkel mounts — He added Arkel 
> mounts on a plate to these to make them easy to attach securely and remove 
> quickly, but the mounts are attached through the Baggins grommets, so can 
> be removed with no trace if desired. I think these originally had an over 
> the rack flap — that’s gone missing. A bit discolored, but clean and in 
> good condition. $175
>
>
> Acorn medium handlebar bag  - brown, excellent condition, with little use. 
> This is designed to strap on the handlebars with cords to the brake levers. 
> $80
>
>
> Velo Orange seat bag (copy of Berthoud, IMHO) with Klik Fix saddle rail 
> mount. Back, fairly lightly used, with a bit of dirt. $50
>
>
> Photos here:   https://photos.app.goo.gl/W5VLMrokLVjMrbwZA 
>
>
> Let me know if you have questions or if you feel I’m way off on asking 
> prices.  
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
>
> Bloomington, IL 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

[franklyn]

It seems that a plush ride is of value here. One trick that I use and one that 
has been mentioned on this list before is to put tubeless sealant in the tubes. 
This way you can enjoy the supple Compass/RH tires while not worry about flats: 
have the cake and eat it also.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Assorted Rivendell Baggins Bags, plus Acorn handlebar bag and Velo-Orange seat bag

[Julian Westerhout]

Update: 

The 2nd Gen Candybar is sold pending payment. 

I'm told that the big saddle bag is likely a Hoss (two boxed 26" tubes fit 
in each of the side pockets, and the bottom measures ~ 13.5" x 11", 

And the medium saddlebag is likely a Little Joe. 

Julian Westerhout

Bloomington, IL 

On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 6:29:48 PM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> FS: Assorted Rivendell Baggins Bags, plus Acorn handlebar bag and 
> Velo-Orange seat bag 
>
>
> My good friend Mike (whose 66 cm Rambouillet I recently posted and sold to 
> a Riv lister) has also been a bit of a bag hoarder (as I am, too!) over the 
> years. He still rides, but not as much, and is in the process of 
> “de-accessioning”  — he now has 2 bikes and is keeping a few bags, but has 
> decided that these should go be enjoyed by others instead of sitting in a 
> closet. As he’s not list-active I’ve volunteered to find them new homes. 
>
>
> I’ve described them as best as I can — I’m not positive I’ve got the 
> Baggins model names correct — Mike doesn’t remember them, and my own memory 
> is fuzzy, too — so if it appears I’ve misidentified any, please let me know.
>
>
> All prices do not include shipping. Will charge actual shipping cost. 
>
>
> Rivendell Baggins Hoss? Saddlebag —this is a large saddlebag in good used 
> condition — some patina, but lots of life left. $125
>
>
> Rvendell Baggins medium saddlebag — not sure of the name. Well used, with 
> a lovely patina, and some dirt on the bottom, but in good functional shape 
> (and I love the leather’s look on this one!) $75
>
>
> Rivendell Baggins Candybar bag 1st generation — this and the medium 
> Baggins saddlebag are probably the most used ones, but still with lots of 
> life left — see photos.  $35 
>
>
> Rivendell Baggins Candybar bag 2nd generation — a bit wider and shorter 
> than the 1st generation bag, this one is essentially new, with little to no 
> use. $60
>
>
> Rivendell Baggins Pa Cartright panniers with Arkel mounts — He added Arkel 
> mounts on a plate to these to make them easy to attach securely and remove 
> quickly, but the mounts are attached through the Baggins grommets, so can 
> be removed with no trace if desired. I think these originally had an over 
> the rack flap — that’s gone missing. A bit discolored, but clean and in 
> good condition. $175
>
>
> Acorn medium handlebar bag  - brown, excellent condition, with little use. 
> This is designed to strap on the handlebars with cords to the brake levers. 
> $80
>
>
> Velo Orange seat bag (copy of Berthoud, IMHO) with Klik Fix saddle rail 
> mount. Back, fairly lightly used, with a bit of dirt. $50
>
>
> Photos here:   https://photos.app.goo.gl/W5VLMrokLVjMrbwZA 
>
>
> Let me know if you have questions or if you feel I’m way off on asking 
> prices.  
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
>
> Bloomington, IL 
>

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[RBW] Hillborne for sale

['Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I managed to get one of the Clem L frames so am selling my Sam Hillborne 
frameset and have posted it to the Seattle craigslist.
seattle.craigslist.org/skc/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-sam-hillborne/6989317420.html.
 
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder

[Craig Montgomery]

Yo Jake, I'm running RTP's. What are they, 2.3's? And there's still plenty
of room. Using VO 60mm fenders and they are about even with the edges of
the RTP's. I was running 650x42 Hetres and Gravel Kings but wanted to try a
fatter tire. First experiment was with 47mm Switchback Hills. They fit but
there was about 2-3 mm distance from the top of the tire to the seat stay
bridge. Deal breaker. Arizona monsoons are no fun without fenders. It's too
bad RTP's and Natchez Pass tires are the only good ones offered in 559. If
Jan ever decides to discontinue tires in this size we're screwed. See what
happens when you get spoiled.

Craig in Tucson

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 10:14 AM Jake P  wrote:

> Craig, Joe,
>
> Confirm what sie tires yall are squeezing on these bikes? I can't seem to
> fit anything larger than a 2.1
>
> Craig, those look like RTPs?? Suprised to see they fit!
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 1:50:23 AM UTC-5, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>>
>> They were considered semi-custom. Grant had me take a bunch of
>> measurements before we decided on the proper sizing. For example I got a
>> shortened top tube. You could also choose length of head tube extension.
>>
>> [image: 1 Last minute check and set up.JPG]
>>
>>
>> Craig in Tucson
>>
>> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 11:32:36 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's the first shots of my new-to-me A/R sans front fender and rack,
>>> and before I upright it with Boscos. It's a bummer I can't use those sweet
>>> carbon Campy brifters, but alas my arthritic wrists won't put up with drops
>>> anymore.
>>>
>>> I'm curious about the sizing. The early Reader geometry chart doesn't
>>> match it at all, this one has a 52cm ST, 55cm TT, which mimics the 52cm
>>> Bstone XO-1. Based on the serial number (what I can see of it) I believe
>>> this was built in 1997, did Waterford ever do custom A/Rs for Riv?
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>> Novato CA.
>>>
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[RBW] FS: Assorted Rivendell Baggins Bags, plus Acorn handlebar bag and Velo-Orange seat bag

[Julian Westerhout]

FS: Assorted Rivendell Baggins Bags, plus Acorn handlebar bag and 
Velo-Orange seat bag 


My good friend Mike (whose 66 cm Rambouillet I recently posted and sold to 
a Riv lister) has also been a bit of a bag hoarder (as I am, too!) over the 
years. He still rides, but not as much, and is in the process of 
“de-accessioning”  — he now has 2 bikes and is keeping a few bags, but has 
decided that these should go be enjoyed by others instead of sitting in a 
closet. As he’s not list-active I’ve volunteered to find them new homes. 


I’ve described them as best as I can — I’m not positive I’ve got the 
Baggins model names correct — Mike doesn’t remember them, and my own memory 
is fuzzy, too — so if it appears I’ve misidentified any, please let me know.


All prices do not include shipping. Will charge actual shipping cost. 


Rivendell Baggins Hoss? Saddlebag —this is a large saddlebag in good used 
condition — some patina, but lots of life left. $125


Rvendell Baggins medium saddlebag — not sure of the name. Well used, with a 
lovely patina, and some dirt on the bottom, but in good functional shape 
(and I love the leather’s look on this one!) $75


Rivendell Baggins Candybar bag 1st generation — this and the medium Baggins 
saddlebag are probably the most used ones, but still with lots of life left 
— see photos.  $35 


Rivendell Baggins Candybar bag 2nd generation — a bit wider and shorter 
than the 1st generation bag, this one is essentially new, with little to no 
use. $60


Rivendell Baggins Pa Cartright panniers with Arkel mounts — He added Arkel 
mounts on a plate to these to make them easy to attach securely and remove 
quickly, but the mounts are attached through the Baggins grommets, so can 
be removed with no trace if desired. I think these originally had an over 
the rack flap — that’s gone missing. A bit discolored, but clean and in 
good condition. $175


Acorn medium handlebar bag  - brown, excellent condition, with little use. 
This is designed to strap on the handlebars with cords to the brake levers. 
$80


Velo Orange seat bag (copy of Berthoud, IMHO) with Klik Fix saddle rail 
mount. Back, fairly lightly used, with a bit of dirt. $50


Photos here:   https://photos.app.goo.gl/W5VLMrokLVjMrbwZA 


Let me know if you have questions or if you feel I’m way off on asking 
prices.  


Julian Westerhout

Bloomington, IL 

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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Handbuilt wheels are best (assuming a good builder), but $145 for a rear wheel 
was too good for me to pass on, I bought two. I'll get some handbuilt fronts 
with Dyno hubs I've got, maybe even my own hands if I can find the time. 
-Kai (60mm tubeless Big Ones/G-ones por vida)

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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

[John McBurney]

I’m not sure on the stems  Mine have been fine.

I’m not sure about VO rims. Have you considered Pancentti or HED Belgium?

https://www.renehersecycles.com/product-category/components/rims/

John

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 6:10 PM Pancake  wrote:

> Good tips John, thanks. I am leaning toward hand built wheelset, but now
> that I've seen these Velo Orange Voyager
>  rims I'd a good reason to
> get anything different.
>
> Their size (38-60mm tires) is right between Velocity's Atlas (isn't
> tubeless compatible/ready, tires 25-45mm) and Cliffhanger (tubeless ready,
> tires 45-65mm) at a similar/lower price and similar/lower weight. And they
> are silver vs. the black Cliffhanger (though the polished version is nice,
> it's quite a bit more expensive and not well stocked).
>
> I think you convinced me that Sapim spokes are worth considering, though
> I've had great luck so far with 4 wheels built with DT Swiss 14/15/14
> double butted spokes (2.0-1.8-2.0mm). Rich Lesnik seems to use the DT
> double butted spokes and he sure knows what he's doing. I'll look at the
> Sapims again, though 2.3-2.0mm is super beefy for what I'm after. Good
> "Choosing Spokes Advice" link.
>
> I forgot about the Rene/Panaracer sealant
> , seems like a good match
> with the Rene/Panaracer tires. I noticed that Orange sealant seeps a bit of
> orange residue on tan sidewall tires and I'd rather avoid that if the
> performance of the sealants is about the same.
>
> I'm guessing that the tubeless stems are all about the same, just need the
> right length for the rim size, right?
>
> Abe
>
> On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 5:53:24 AM UTC-7, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>> Another thing to consider if your doing a custom build is to use Sapim
>> Strong spokes. Sapim uses the highest strength stainless alloy in the
>> Stongs - came as C X-ray bladed spokes while DT uses a lower grade steel in
>> heavier grade spokes. The combination of a heavier gauge high strength
>> spoke with a robust rim built by a good wheelbuilder produces a truly
>> robust wheel.
>>
>> https://dcrwheels.co.uk/custom-wheelsets/choosing-spokes-advice/
>>
>>
>> I’m not sure what kind of tape we used but I think it was Stan’s.  Valves
>> Stans I’m pretty sure.
>>
>> For sealant I used Stan’s but have purchased the new Panaracer sealant
>> that Compass sells. I’ll use this when these tires need to be replaced.
>>
>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/new-sealant-for-rene-herse-tires/
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:44 PM Pancake  wrote:
>>
>>> And with John’s answer we have a winner! Thanks John!
>>>
>>> Next: did you use the Velocity 21mm tape and valves?
>>> Which sealant did you use? Orange Endurance? Stan’s?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

[Pancake]

Good tips John, thanks. I am leaning toward hand built wheelset, but now 
that I've seen these Velo Orange Voyager 
 rims I'd a good reason to 
get anything different. 

Their size (38-60mm tires) is right between Velocity's Atlas (isn't 
tubeless compatible/ready, tires 25-45mm) and Cliffhanger (tubeless ready, 
tires 45-65mm) at a similar/lower price and similar/lower weight. And they 
are silver vs. the black Cliffhanger (though the polished version is nice, 
it's quite a bit more expensive and not well stocked).

I think you convinced me that Sapim spokes are worth considering, though 
I've had great luck so far with 4 wheels built with DT Swiss 14/15/14 
double butted spokes (2.0-1.8-2.0mm). Rich Lesnik seems to use the DT 
double butted spokes and he sure knows what he's doing. I'll look at the 
Sapims again, though 2.3-2.0mm is super beefy for what I'm after. Good 
"Choosing Spokes Advice" link. 

I forgot about the Rene/Panaracer sealant 
, seems like a good match 
with the Rene/Panaracer tires. I noticed that Orange sealant seeps a bit of 
orange residue on tan sidewall tires and I'd rather avoid that if the 
performance of the sealants is about the same. 

I'm guessing that the tubeless stems are all about the same, just need the 
right length for the rim size, right?

Abe

On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 5:53:24 AM UTC-7, John McBurney wrote:
>
> Another thing to consider if your doing a custom build is to use Sapim 
> Strong spokes. Sapim uses the highest strength stainless alloy in the 
> Stongs - came as C X-ray bladed spokes while DT uses a lower grade steel in 
> heavier grade spokes. The combination of a heavier gauge high strength 
> spoke with a robust rim built by a good wheelbuilder produces a truly 
> robust wheel. 
>
> https://dcrwheels.co.uk/custom-wheelsets/choosing-spokes-advice/
>
>
> I’m not sure what kind of tape we used but I think it was Stan’s.  Valves 
> Stans I’m pretty sure. 
>
> For sealant I used Stan’s but have purchased the new Panaracer sealant 
> that Compass sells. I’ll use this when these tires need to be replaced. 
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/new-sealant-for-rene-herse-tires/
>
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:44 PM Pancake > 
> wrote:
>
>> And with John’s answer we have a winner! Thanks John!
>>
>> Next: did you use the Velocity 21mm tape and valves? 
>> Which sealant did you use? Orange Endurance? Stan’s?
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[RBW] Re: Bike with Riv-like geometry for kids - gravel

[Ed Carolipio]

For brand new, another vote for a Brooklyn. I got a Clem L for the wife but 
it was still too big for her, so I got her the Willow 3 instead. Geometry 
and ride are very Riv like, though not as "sharp" so I replaced some parts 
to tighten up the ride. Frame's not bad though to build on, and they're one 
of the few manufacturers of city bikes who use cromoly, at least in the 
Willow. (Careful with those entry level bikes as "steel" is not synonymous 
with cromoly.)

Still, if she fits a Riv, I'm with Joe and check out the used market. It 
may seem pricey but depreciation on a well kept step thru is not bad and 
I'm sure the net "loss" of owning it would be worth the expense. Also, step 
thrus have a wide PBH range for fit: that 50cm Cheviot in theory could 
tolerate her growing another 5" or so.

--Ed C.

On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 2:01:48 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Brooklyn Bicycle has some nice step-throughs at reasonable prices. I don't 
> know the current situation or how much he was involved in the designs, but 
> Grant was a consultant for them when the company started.
>
> https://www.brooklynbicycleco.com/
>
> Or just get a small Clem L or Chev used and and sell it later. There's a 
> 50cm Cheviot on Ebay right now. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Clem L 64cm Size Range

[Dave Grossman]

Thanks Garth!  That was some great feedback!

>
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[RBW] Re: 64cm Clem L for sale ☹️

[Reid Echols]

Hey Jeff, 

I was very tempted by the blue (been sitting in my cart for ages), so I'll 
confess the green is a bit less appealing, but what do you think is 
reasonable shipped to Austin? 

Thanks, 
Reid 

On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-5, jeff perry wrote:
>
> I just bought my Clem L in green, but apparently I didn’t get the 
> necessary approval from the boss before making the purchase.  So I’m 
> selling it.  It’s brand new.  20 miles at most on it.  I added a Clem rack 
> on back too.  Prefer a local pickup here in Stamford CT, but have all the 
> shipping materials to box it up as well.  Will take to a bike shop to do 
> that. 
>
> I’m really bummed to get rid of it because it’s SUPER fun and I love the 
> color , but I also have a Appaloosa that is pretty similar, so it was an 
> extravagance to be sure.  Make me a reasonable offer! 
>
> Jeff

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[RBW] 64cm Clem L for sale ☹️

[J Imler]

Sorry to here about your predicament. I also have an Appaloosa and just got a 
Clem L. I was super nervous “the boss” was going to be adverse also, but I’m in 
the clear. 

I sold all possible bikes, frames, etc...prior to the Clem arrival to free up 
space and $$.

Let’s do something to keep Clem with you. Petition? 100 posts to this thread? 
What’s gonna win the day?

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

[Joe Bernard]

Jake, I have 2.0 with fenders. I think 2.3 without is about the limit at the 
fork, maybe a smidge more in the rear. That's a pretty A/R!

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[RBW] Re: Clem L 64cm Size Range

[Garth]

   
   Dave, I had ordered a 64 on Friday but called later in the day and 
changed it to a 59. I'm 6'3', 92cm pbh .  I have a 60cm. Bombadil which 
fits me perfect. Out riding the other day it occurred to me that with a 
4cm. taller seat tube , my thighs could rub on the seatstays. If the 64 
Clem had the socket type seat lug it would have been alright as it places 
the stays well rear of the seat lug, but it uses a lug that places it 
forward, just like the Bombadil. My saddle is always as far back as 
possible. This is just my thing, I prefer no rubbing of thighs on 
anything.  I was already 50/50 between the 2 sizes but the thigh thing gave 
me a clear choice. 

   One thing that hasn't been spoken of about the new Clems in how much 
longer they are in top tube and front-center, about 4 cm. Plus the head 
tube angles are 69.5. I had asked Will for the dimensions. The *59 and 64 
Clems are now 68.5/70 TT and  75/76 FC*.  Even I wondered if the 64 would 
be so high-front that I'd have use a -73d stem, which I really dislike. My 
Alba bars are already high enough and I use a 90's Zoom 0d 130mm stem.  
With the 59 Clem I may try Billie bars and the Hi-Riser stem.  These are 2 
inches more swept back than the Albas which with the extra TT length may be 
about the same reach as my Bomba with Albas. No Bosco, too little usable 
had space.

   What you may prefer could be entirely different , maybe you like 
oversized bikes, maybe not. Gotta know your self ! 

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations on cycling to Rivendell and around San Francisco and the Bay Area

[Sean Kline]

And don’t forget the FREE Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Music Festival in Golden 
Gate Park October 4-6, which will have bike parking care of tge San Francisco 
Bike Coalition. 1,000+ Parked bikes just means you need to remember where you 
parked your’s!

Bike parking map: 
http://www.hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/2019/wp-content/themes/hsb/HSB19-bike-parking.pdf

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Re: [RBW] Make my AHH look less tempting!

[Conor Skelding]

This doesn't go to the camouflage but to the theft problem -- insure it?
Either renters insurance that covers a bike up to that cost (or add a rider
to your regular police), or try Velosurance (no experience with them).

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 3:04 PM Eric Karnes  wrote:

> Evening all-
>
> I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a
> university area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft.
> (Granted this is a town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia,
> so perhaps I should take that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my
> AHH will shortly arrive here via Bikeflights.
>
> I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but
> I don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my
> Hilsen look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown
> and has albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater
> to the uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of
> stickers and a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Eric
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[RBW] 64cm Clem L for sale ☹️

[jeff perry]

I just bought my Clem L in green, but apparently I didn’t get the necessary 
approval from the boss before making the purchase.  So I’m selling it.  It’s 
brand new.  20 miles at most on it.  I added a Clem rack on back too.  Prefer a 
local pickup here in Stamford CT, but have all the shipping materials to box it 
up as well.  Will take to a bike shop to do that. 

I’m really bummed to get rid of it because it’s SUPER fun and I love the color 
, but I also have a Appaloosa that is pretty similar, so it was an extravagance 
to be sure.  Make me a reasonable offer!

Jeff

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[RBW] Re: Offroad Mountain Clem-L’s

[jeff perry]

Hi all.  New member here.  I thought I'd share my thoughts on a 64cm Clem L 
that I got last night.  I also have a 62cm Appaloosa.  The Clem L is a 
trip!  The frame flexes noticeably compared to the Appaloosa (which I 
suppose some might view as a negative), but it's just *crazy* how smooth 
the ride is over bumps.  Seriously, small to medium sized bumps just don't 
exist anymore.  No hyperbole here, it makes the Appaloosa feel harsh in 
comparison, and that bike is like a sofa compared to most bikes.  I took it 
for a ride last night over a trail that has a lot of raised tree roots and 
bumps, and the bike just cruised over stuff that would have beat me up on 
the Appaloosa.  It's like riding a steam roller!  It has to be due to frame 
flex (and maybe the longer wheelbase) because I'm running equivalent tires, 
bars and saddles on both bikes.  Yet despite all the gooshiness, it seems 
to accelerate at least as well as the Appaloosa, although I'll put that to 
the test this weekend.  Amazing.  It's just a blast to ride...pure fun!  

For touring or longer distance road riding, the Appaloosa would be my first 
choice and I'm not going to give it up, but for blasting around for fun, 
the Clem L is fantastic and I'm glad I got it.  My only regret is getting 
green instead of blue!

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> Who has their Clem L set up as a true off-roader ?
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Re: [RBW] Re: ideas for daytime visibility: vests and whatnot

[Joe S]

I've been hit twice by cars in the last 10 years. After the second one put
me in the hospital I started riding with Carhartt Force Class 3 Hi-vis
shirts. I have both long and short sleeve versions. Not very stylish, but I
haven't had a close call since using them. I realize that could be more
luck than anything else, but I'm sticking with them. Lighter and more
comfortable than wearing a vest. I'm not a cycling jersey type of rider
anyway.

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 2:46 PM PaulS  wrote:

> Some of the responses above seem to reference dark/night-time riding.  I
> thought the question was regarding daylight hours.
>
> For me, from what I've observed both on the bike and driving, is that
> cyclists' apparel does not do anything during daylight hours.  Light,
> reflective, dark, orange, etc.---once the cyclist rides under the shadow of
> a tree, building, etc., they "disappear".  Reflective gear doesn't work,
> since half the cars have their lights off and there is too much ambient
> light.  In my opinion, a light emitting source is needed.
>
> Bright rear AND front lights are a must.  BLINKING mode, not constant on,
> got my attention the most.  Maybe even two lights.  Don't get a minimalist
> Knog or the likes. I can barely see those at night time, let alone during
> the day.  I use PDW Radbot and one of their other taillights (can't
> remember the name), and Lezyne headlight (~1200 lumens).  Very bright and
> visible in full daylight.
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[RBW] Re: Offroad Mountain Clem-L’s

[Weston Hein]

I was able to fit 2.6 Maxxis Ikons on my 59cm H frame. Plenty of clearance 
although I've heard that the L frames have less clearance at the 
chainstays. Not sure if this is still accurate with the new run of frames 
though.

My girlfriend also has an older 52cm H frame with the swoopy seat stays. 
She is running 2.35 G-One Speeds on her bike with fenders, plenty of room 
for a 2.4.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvLICiVAn2u/
https://www.instagram.com/p/By8FbXGBEWL/

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[RBW] Clem L 64cm Size Range

[Dave Grossman]

I'm having some issues finding good info on the sizing differences between 
the 59 and 64 Clem L.  I realize standover is not an issue (duh).  I'm 
about 6'1" and have a PBH between 89-90.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

[PaulS]

Schwalbe touring tires can last quite a while and typically measured in 
distance. Reports I’ve seen vary between 6-10k miles, depending on terrain, 
weight, etc. 

I’ve used Big Apples. Very plush. I did have a staple go right through one 
time. If I had been on my Marathon Plus, I’d have just kept going. If you 
prioritize flat proof over everything else, I’d highly recommend the Marathon 
Plus. 

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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Randi Jo Pocket Tender

[Birdman]

Thanks, Stephen, that’s an excellent idea!

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Re: [RBW] Smaller tires on Cliffhanger rims? Snoqualmie (44mm) or small as 38mm? Sam Hillborne 700c

[John McBurney]

Another thing to consider if your doing a custom build is to use Sapim
Strong spokes. Sapim uses the highest strength stainless alloy in the
Stongs - came as C X-ray bladed spokes while DT uses a lower grade steel in
heavier grade spokes. The combination of a heavier gauge high strength
spoke with a robust rim built by a good wheelbuilder produces a truly
robust wheel.

https://dcrwheels.co.uk/custom-wheelsets/choosing-spokes-advice/


I’m not sure what kind of tape we used but I think it was Stan’s.  Valves
Stans I’m pretty sure.

For sealant I used Stan’s but have purchased the new Panaracer sealant that
Compass sells. I’ll use this when these tires need to be replaced.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/new-sealant-for-rene-herse-tires/


John

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:44 PM Pancake  wrote:

> And with John’s answer we have a winner! Thanks John!
>
> Next: did you use the Velocity 21mm tape and valves?
> Which sealant did you use? Orange Endurance? Stan’s?
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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Randi Jo Pocket Tender

[Stephen W.]

Just a thought: I've heard that Randi might be willing to sew a patch on any of 
her Tenders...she's cool...if you can get your hands on a Riv a patch you might 
be able to get yourself a Riv'd-Pocket-Tender. 


Stephen 

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[RBW] Re: Bike with Riv-like geometry for kids - gravel

[Joe Bernard]

Brooklyn Bicycle has some nice step-throughs at reasonable prices. I don't know 
the current situation or how much he was involved in the designs, but Grant was 
a consultant for them when the company started.

https://www.brooklynbicycleco.com/

Or just get a small Clem L or Chev used and and sell it later. There's a 50cm 
Cheviot on Ebay right now. 

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[RBW] Re: Bike with Riv-like geometry for kids - gravel

[Jared Volpe]

Ideally ready to go but I’m open to suggestions. 

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