Re: [RBW] WTB: Short 31.8mm Quill Stem

[Michael Williams]

Jeremy,   I’m in the same boat,  looking for an exact stem.  I’d prefer the 
Crust or Riv that you referenced.   Analog also offers their ‘fingerling’ stem 
that is similar to what your after but a bit more expensive. -Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 7:27 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> 
> (apologies for the x-post with iBOB)
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> I'm in need of a short (50-60mm) extension, tall 1" quill stem for 31.8mm 
> bars with a two or four bolt removable faceplate. Currently running a 90mm 
> Velo Orange but want something shorter. Something like the Nitto x Crust UI 
> Quill stem or the Rivendell/Nitto FacePlater, but the number of SKU's in this 
> segment seem to be proliferating so I'm open to other options as well. Pretty 
> much every retailer I can think of seems to be out of such an item, but if 
> you can point me to an in-stock item I'm happy to buy retail as well. Or if 
> you have experience with a custom builder who does stand-alone stem orders, 
> I'd be interested in that information also. Black is preferred but 
> beggars/choosers etc. so I'm open. 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[Leah Peterson]

Thanks again! I think I’m set on this idea…however, I discovered  there is a 
“rugged” version that might be worth paying a little more for. It’s here, but 
you can get from other stores for considerably less money than the 
manufacturer’s website: 
https://designbydelta.com/collections/bike-racks/products/two-bike-rugged-gravity-stand

Some people rate the rugged as higher quality. Delta just says it allows for a 
heavier bike. I’d spend more for peace of mind, but only if there really is a 
quality gain.

Anyone tried these models and compared?
L

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:10 PM, BobW  wrote:
> 
> Yea, the arm that hold th top tub of the bike move vertically independently 
> of one another, so could accomodate the slope of the mixte frames
> 
> Let us know what you eventually decide upon; with pics of course!!!
> 
> 
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 1:56:54 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Bob, this could work! Looks like the mixte tube isn’t a problem with this 
>> rack, too! 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 31, 2021, at 12:17 PM, BobW  wrote:
 
>>> Leah - I have two Delta Michangelo Gravity stands that go up against the 
>>> wall.  They work very well,  and handle my Sam Hillborne on the upper 
>>> bracket great.  You would need three of them for all your bikes though
>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Michelangelo-Two-Bike-Gravity-Stand/dp/B000ACAM38/ref=asc_df_B000ACAM38/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=167135146302==g=2231711972723674310c===9005533=pla-154725647530=1
>>> 
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 9:46:01 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> Hi Friends. I searched some other threads to find this answer but didn’t 
> really find what I was looking for, and, maybe there have been some 
> updated solutions, so, a new thread.
> 
> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
> parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to 
> be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and 
> my boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, 
> heavy frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the 
> bike up off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). 
> But I don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the 
> bike, OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it 
> would be awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we 
> would require more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
> 
> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
> 
> Thanks!
> Leah 
> 
 
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I'm so excited for the people who will get one. I can never decide which is 
more comfortable and wonderful - Platypus or Clem? And now the two of them 
went and got married and maybe this is the perfect bike. How many Rosco 
Plats are there? Maybe 50? I wonder if a production run could ever happen 
if the demand is there...

It is more fun to think of Rosco Plats than to be online shopping for 
CURTAINS. Yuck. Back to it. Happy New Year, Rivsters. May 2022 be plumb 
full of Platypuses and Rosco Plats.

Leah

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:47:05 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:

> If anyone was having trouble deciding between a Clem and a Platypus, this 
> is your bike. 
> 55mm tires plus fenders, these are going to be super.
>
> Ray
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it should 
>>> be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, admittedly. Did 
>>> anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed Riv to do such 
>>> wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with the Rosco models? 
>>> They are always such careful color choosers but this time they really went 
>>> for it. Fun!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should 
 ride."  To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.

 On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 
>
> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
>> you're there. I dig it! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
>>> both look excellent!
>>> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Ray Varella]

If anyone was having trouble deciding between a Clem and a Platypus, this 
is your bike. 
55mm tires plus fenders, these are going to be super.

Ray

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it should 
>> be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, admittedly. Did 
>> anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed Riv to do such 
>> wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with the Rosco models? 
>> They are always such careful color choosers but this time they really went 
>> for it. Fun!
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should ride."  
>>> To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
 Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 

 On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
> you're there. I dig it! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
>> both look excellent!
>> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Short 31.8mm Quill Stem

[Jeremy Till]

(apologies for the x-post with iBOB)

Hi All, 

I'm in need of a short (50-60mm) extension, tall 1" quill stem for 31.8mm 
bars with a two or four bolt removable faceplate. Currently running a 90mm 
Velo Orange but want something shorter. Something like the Nitto x Crust UI 
Quill stem 
 or 
the Rivendell/Nitto FacePlater 
, but the number of 
SKU's in this segment seem to be proliferating so I'm open to other options 
as well. Pretty much every retailer I can think of seems to be out of such 
an item, but if you can point me to an in-stock item I'm happy to buy 
retail as well. Or if you have experience with a custom builder who does 
stand-alone stem orders, I'd be interested in that information also. Black 
is preferred but beggars/choosers etc. so I'm open. 

Thank you!

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA
  

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Re: [RBW] Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[John Rinker]

Yes, of course, the rear fender is a concern. For my part, when my bike is 
fendered I do have to do a final grab and lift at the seat post. 

Really though, the only bikes I've stored this way are old mountain bikes I 
keep around for sentimental reasons. Until recently I've only had one Riv, 
and it never sits around long enough to warrant storage on a rack. 

Cheers, John


On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 10:41:29 AM UTC+9 Joe Bernard wrote:

> John,
>
> How do you deal with the rear fender? My concern with the vertical hanging 
> business is she'll be dragging the fender across the floor as she's trying 
> to get the front wheel up on that hook. This isn't an issue for the average 
> fenderless 16 lbs. carbon road bike, but her Rivs are fully loaded and 
> fendered. She's not gonna just toss 'em up there! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 5:12:10 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Leah,
>>
>> Happy New Year! An 8ft 2x4 bolted to the studs in your garage wall with 
>> utility 
>> hooks 
>> 
>>  works 
>> great. Mine is just high enough so the tires are about an inch off the 
>> floor so you don't have to lift very high. I just roll the tire up the wall 
>> and hook it in. Pretty easy and very inexpesive.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 7:41:56 AM UTC+9 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Leah – I realize you said you'd like the bikes up off the floor *but* 
>>> consider 
>>> the Peak Racks. This is a bike parking solution that leaves the bikes on 
>>> the ground. It's easy to adapt and space the bikes as you like to 
>>> accommodate your fenders and wide bars. Rivendell uses these in the shop. 
>>> I'd totally be in for these racks if I had room in my shed, but I don't. 
>>> Also, it's a California-based company and these are MUSA!
>>>
>>> Me and my back do not like hanging, balancing and hooking steel bikes. 
>>> Especially tricky with fenders. With on the ground storage like this you 
>>> can just wheel 'em in and out. With a three-car garage there might be a way 
>>> to make it all fit and leave things neat and tidy. The bikes are important 
>>> and I'd say they deserve their own dedicated bay :)  Roll that door up and 
>>> roll the bikes out. 
>>>
>>> https://peakracks.com/byo/#order-now
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 5:15:01 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 [image: 069A7403-7E88-4530-A7F8-0293ACD1CCA2.jpeg]

 On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:09:59 PM UTC+1 maxcr wrote:

> I used 4 of these, not cheap but if you have a wall you can drill on, 
> they’re great: 
>  https://cyclesafe.com/bike-parking/bike-racks/fender-rack/
> Max
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:00:57 PM UTC+1 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I bought this overhead storage rack from Costco, and it included 
>> hooks that hang off the bottom of it to hold bikes. It works pretty 
>> well, 
>> but at 12 bikes, even our big garage can still get crowded. 
>>
>> My 13 year old daughter (who I have to say is quite strong) is able 
>> to get her fendered Trek up on a hook. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I 
>>> searched some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find 
>>> what 
>>> I was looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, 
>>> so, a 
>>> new thread.
>>>
>>> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are 
>>> just parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are 
>>> bound 
>>> to be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, 
>>> and 
>>> my boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, 
>>> heavy 
>>> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike 
>>> up 
>>> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
>>> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the 
>>> bike, 
>>> OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would 
>>> be 
>>> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would 
>>> require 
>>> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>>>
>>> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Erik]

That is a stunning paint job, Jason.  It looks beautiful.  Can't wait to 
see ride reports once its all built up!

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might 
> be a couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient. 
>
> Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new 
> parts. Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars 
> will be wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender 
> flaps, and the rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was 
> painted by Chris Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing, 
> addition of Rene Herse tail light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell 
> would have charged, and it's also up to Joe's level of quality. 
>
> 2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes 
> according to plan! 
>
> [image: PXL_20211231_032223436.jpg]
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>> Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
>>
>> I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety 
>> tabs. I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I 
>> caught a bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs 
>> released, the wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better, 
>> but I'm still totally ready to abandon the combination.
>>
>> I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of 
>> mess after every ride.
>>
>> Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> Jason, 
>>>
>>> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety 
>>> Tabs will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 
>>> years. Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once 
>>> dropped the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the 
>>> wheel removed while loading it into the van. 
>>>
>>> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back 
>>> into place, no harm done.
>>>
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jason Fuller 
>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>>>
>>> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender 
>>> ruinage and full body aches. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which 
>>> tossed me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, 
>>> I haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure 
>>> this avoids the problem entirely.  
>>>
>>> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a 
>>> bit?  Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
>>>
>>> [image: signal-2021-08-27-124701.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past 
>>> Sunday's trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to 
>>> install on the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think 
>>> will do the trick - kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to 
>>> try, but alas, I have too many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the 
>>> knobby Ultradynamico for the slicker Cava's as well
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>>>
>>> Jason,
>>>
>>> you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike 
>>> weekly, pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of 
>>> times since then. I really 
>>> hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh
>>>
>>> EricF
>>> Vancouver BC
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[Joe Bernard]

John,

How do you deal with the rear fender? My concern with the vertical hanging 
business is she'll be dragging the fender across the floor as she's trying 
to get the front wheel up on that hook. This isn't an issue for the average 
fenderless 16 lbs. carbon road bike, but her Rivs are fully loaded and 
fendered. She's not gonna just toss 'em up there! 

Joe Bernard

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 5:12:10 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Hey Leah,
>
> Happy New Year! An 8ft 2x4 bolted to the studs in your garage wall with 
> utility 
> hooks 
> 
>  works 
> great. Mine is just high enough so the tires are about an inch off the 
> floor so you don't have to lift very high. I just roll the tire up the wall 
> and hook it in. Pretty easy and very inexpesive.
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 7:41:56 AM UTC+9 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Leah – I realize you said you'd like the bikes up off the floor *but* 
>> consider 
>> the Peak Racks. This is a bike parking solution that leaves the bikes on 
>> the ground. It's easy to adapt and space the bikes as you like to 
>> accommodate your fenders and wide bars. Rivendell uses these in the shop. 
>> I'd totally be in for these racks if I had room in my shed, but I don't. 
>> Also, it's a California-based company and these are MUSA!
>>
>> Me and my back do not like hanging, balancing and hooking steel bikes. 
>> Especially tricky with fenders. With on the ground storage like this you 
>> can just wheel 'em in and out. With a three-car garage there might be a way 
>> to make it all fit and leave things neat and tidy. The bikes are important 
>> and I'd say they deserve their own dedicated bay :)  Roll that door up and 
>> roll the bikes out. 
>>
>> https://peakracks.com/byo/#order-now
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 5:15:01 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 069A7403-7E88-4530-A7F8-0293ACD1CCA2.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:09:59 PM UTC+1 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 I used 4 of these, not cheap but if you have a wall you can drill on, 
 they’re great: 
  https://cyclesafe.com/bike-parking/bike-racks/fender-rack/
 Max
 On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:00:57 PM UTC+1 Eric Daume wrote:

> I bought this overhead storage rack from Costco, and it included hooks 
> that hang off the bottom of it to hold bikes. It works pretty well, but 
> at 
> 12 bikes, even our big garage can still get crowded. 
>
> My 13 year old daughter (who I have to say is quite strong) is able to 
> get her fendered Trek up on a hook. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I 
>> searched some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find 
>> what 
>> I was looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, 
>> so, a 
>> new thread.
>>
>> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
>> parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound 
>> to 
>> be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and 
>> my 
>> boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
>> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike 
>> up 
>> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
>> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the 
>> bike, 
>> OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
>> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would 
>> require 
>> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>>
>> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah 
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Re: [RBW] Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[John Rinker]

Hey Leah,

Happy New Year! An 8ft 2x4 bolted to the studs in your garage wall with utility 
hooks 

 works 
great. Mine is just high enough so the tires are about an inch off the 
floor so you don't have to lift very high. I just roll the tire up the wall 
and hook it in. Pretty easy and very inexpesive.

Cheers,
John

On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 7:41:56 AM UTC+9 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Leah – I realize you said you'd like the bikes up off the floor *but* 
> consider 
> the Peak Racks. This is a bike parking solution that leaves the bikes on 
> the ground. It's easy to adapt and space the bikes as you like to 
> accommodate your fenders and wide bars. Rivendell uses these in the shop. 
> I'd totally be in for these racks if I had room in my shed, but I don't. 
> Also, it's a California-based company and these are MUSA!
>
> Me and my back do not like hanging, balancing and hooking steel bikes. 
> Especially tricky with fenders. With on the ground storage like this you 
> can just wheel 'em in and out. With a three-car garage there might be a way 
> to make it all fit and leave things neat and tidy. The bikes are important 
> and I'd say they deserve their own dedicated bay :)  Roll that door up and 
> roll the bikes out. 
>
> https://peakracks.com/byo/#order-now
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 5:15:01 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>
>> [image: 069A7403-7E88-4530-A7F8-0293ACD1CCA2.jpeg]
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:09:59 PM UTC+1 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> I used 4 of these, not cheap but if you have a wall you can drill on, 
>>> they’re great: 
>>>  https://cyclesafe.com/bike-parking/bike-racks/fender-rack/
>>> Max
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:00:57 PM UTC+1 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 I bought this overhead storage rack from Costco, and it included hooks 
 that hang off the bottom of it to hold bikes. It works pretty well, but at 
 12 bikes, even our big garage can still get crowded. 

 My 13 year old daughter (who I have to say is quite strong) is able to 
 get her fendered Trek up on a hook. 

 Eric


 On Friday, December 31, 2021, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I 
> searched some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find 
> what 
> I was looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, so, 
> a 
> new thread.
>
> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
> parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to 
> be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and 
> my 
> boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike up 
> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the bike, 
> OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would 
> require 
> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>
> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>
> Thanks!
> Leah 
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[RBW] ISO Frame Saver.

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi,

Apparently problem solver purchased frame saver, as far as I can tell there 
are no online retailers selling an aerosol can of it,  perhaps it can't be 
shipped because it's an aerosol can under pressure?  Anyone know how I can 
get my hands on some? Maybe a retailer in the Los Angeles area? For obvious 
reasons most bike stores are closed today through January 3rd.

Happy New year!!

Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[Eric Marth]

Hi Leah – I realize you said you'd like the bikes up off the floor *but* 
consider 
the Peak Racks. This is a bike parking solution that leaves the bikes on 
the ground. It's easy to adapt and space the bikes as you like to 
accommodate your fenders and wide bars. Rivendell uses these in the shop. 
I'd totally be in for these racks if I had room in my shed, but I don't. 
Also, it's a California-based company and these are MUSA!

Me and my back do not like hanging, balancing and hooking steel bikes. 
Especially tricky with fenders. With on the ground storage like this you 
can just wheel 'em in and out. With a three-car garage there might be a way 
to make it all fit and leave things neat and tidy. The bikes are important 
and I'd say they deserve their own dedicated bay :)  Roll that door up and 
roll the bikes out. 

https://peakracks.com/byo/#order-now

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 5:15:01 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> [image: 069A7403-7E88-4530-A7F8-0293ACD1CCA2.jpeg]
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:09:59 PM UTC+1 maxcr wrote:
>
>> I used 4 of these, not cheap but if you have a wall you can drill on, 
>> they’re great: 
>>  https://cyclesafe.com/bike-parking/bike-racks/fender-rack/
>> Max
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:00:57 PM UTC+1 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> I bought this overhead storage rack from Costco, and it included hooks 
>>> that hang off the bottom of it to hold bikes. It works pretty well, but at 
>>> 12 bikes, even our big garage can still get crowded. 
>>>
>>> My 13 year old daughter (who I have to say is quite strong) is able to 
>>> get her fendered Trek up on a hook. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I 
 searched some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find 
 what 
 I was looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, so, 
 a 
 new thread.

 We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
 parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to 
 be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and my 
 boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
 frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike up 
 off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
 don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the bike, 
 OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
 awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would 
 require 
 more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)

 What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?

 Thanks!
 Leah 

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Re: [RBW] Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[maxcr]

I used 4 of these, not cheap but if you have a wall you can drill on, 
they’re great: 
 https://cyclesafe.com/bike-parking/bike-racks/fender-rack/
Max
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:00:57 PM UTC+1 Eric Daume wrote:

> I bought this overhead storage rack from Costco, and it included hooks 
> that hang off the bottom of it to hold bikes. It works pretty well, but at 
> 12 bikes, even our big garage can still get crowded. 
>
> My 13 year old daughter (who I have to say is quite strong) is able to get 
> her fendered Trek up on a hook. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I searched 
>> some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find what I was 
>> looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, so, a new 
>> thread.
>>
>> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
>> parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to 
>> be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and my 
>> boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
>> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike up 
>> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
>> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the bike, 
>> OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
>> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would require 
>> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>>
>> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[BobW]

Yea, the arm that hold th top tub of the bike move vertically independently 
of one another, so could accomodate the slope of the mixte frames

Let us know what you eventually decide upon; with pics of course!!!


On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 1:56:54 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Bob, this could work! Looks like the mixte tube isn’t a problem with this 
> rack, too! 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 31, 2021, at 12:17 PM, BobW  wrote:
>
> Leah - I have two Delta Michangelo Gravity stands that go up against the 
> wall.  They work very well,  and handle my Sam Hillborne on the upper 
> bracket great.  You would need three of them for all your bikes though
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Michelangelo-Two-Bike-Gravity-Stand/dp/B000ACAM38/ref=asc_df_B000ACAM38/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=167135146302==g=2231711972723674310c===9005533=pla-154725647530=1
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 9:46:01 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I searched 
>> some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find what I was 
>> looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, so, a new 
>> thread.
>>
>> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
>> parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to 
>> be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and my 
>> boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
>> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike up 
>> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
>> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the bike, 
>> OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
>> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would require 
>> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>>
>> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 


On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it should 
> be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, admittedly. Did 
> anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed Riv to do such 
> wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with the Rosco models? 
> They are always such careful color choosers but this time they really went 
> for it. Fun!
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should ride."  
>> To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
>>> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
 you're there. I dig it! 

 Joe Bernard

 On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
> both look excellent!
> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[Leah Peterson]

Bob, this could work! Looks like the mixte tube isn’t a problem with this rack, 
too! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 12:17 PM, BobW  wrote:
> 
> Leah - I have two Delta Michangelo Gravity stands that go up against the 
> wall.  They work very well,  and handle my Sam Hillborne on the upper bracket 
> great.  You would need three of them for all your bikes though
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Michelangelo-Two-Bike-Gravity-Stand/dp/B000ACAM38/ref=asc_df_B000ACAM38/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=167135146302==g=2231711972723674310c===9005533=pla-154725647530=1
> 
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 9:46:01 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Friends. I searched some other threads to find this answer but didn’t 
>> really find what I was looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated 
>> solutions, so, a new thread.
>> 
>> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just parked 
>> willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to be 
>> knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and my 
>> boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
>> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike up 
>> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
>> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the bike, OR 
>> if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
>> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would require 
>> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>> 
>> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Leah 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Large Saddlesack - olive color

[WETH]

Sold!  Thanks for all the interest and Happy New Year!

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:55:13 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> Hi Erl,
> I’ll take it, PM with details
> Max
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:37:39 PM UTC+1 WETH wrote:
>
>> For sale is a large olive colored Rivendell Saddlesack.  It is an older 
>> model with a metal tag showing serial number 101.  I purchased the bag used 
>> a few years ago off this list and never used it. It appears to have been 
>> only scarcely used by the previous owner.  Please see the photos for 
>> condition: https://erlhouston.smugmug.com/Portfolio/For-Sale-Saddlesack
>>
>> $150 for local pick-up in the Washington, DC area or $170 shipped. PayPal.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Erl Houston
>> Kensington, MD
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[BobW]

Leah - I have two Delta Michangelo Gravity stands that go up against the 
wall.  They work very well,  and handle my Sam Hillborne on the upper 
bracket great.  You would need three of them for all your bikes though

https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Michelangelo-Two-Bike-Gravity-Stand/dp/B000ACAM38/ref=asc_df_B000ACAM38/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=167135146302==g=2231711972723674310c===9005533=pla-154725647530=1

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 9:46:01 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I searched 
> some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find what I was 
> looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, so, a new 
> thread.
>
> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
> parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to 
> be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and my 
> boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike up 
> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the bike, 
> OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would require 
> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>
> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>
> Thanks!
> Leah 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[Paul Clifton]

Hi Leah,
I use a DIY version of the same style of system. I just installed several 
coated hooks in the studs. It works well for me in my half-car garage. I 
think it's a pretty efficient use of space. I staggered the height of the 
hooks so that the handlebars don't hit each other, and I can hang bikes by 
the back or front wheel to get them even tighter.

But, it IS awkward to lift them up and get them in the hooks (and I'm 
pretty strong FWIW), and it's even more awkward taking them down, which 
means I usually just ride whichever bike is already down ...

Whether the fenders rub the ground will depend on how high you install the 
rack, so you'll have to lift the bikes at least high enough to get the 
fenders off the ground.

The dance I do goes something like:
1. Tip bike backwards so I can roll it just on the back wheel.
2. Grab the seat tube to lift and keep my other hand on the front end to 
steady the wheel.
3. Engage my core.
4. Lift and attempt to hook the wheel.
5. Miss the hook and cuss.
6. Try again. All good.

I think there are some racks that make it easy to roll the bike up towards 
the wall, then hook the wheel, then lift with some sort of pulley or track 
system. Maybe someone can suggest something like that.

Paul in AR

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wrote:

> [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I searched 
> some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find what I was 
> looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, so, a new 
> thread.
>
> We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are just 
> parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are bound to 
> be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, and my 
> boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, heavy 
> frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike up 
> off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But I 
> don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the bike, 
> OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would be 
> awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would require 
> more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)
>
> What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?
>
> Thanks!
> Leah 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Large Saddlesack - olive color

[maxcr]

Hi Erl,
I’ll take it, PM with details
Max

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:37:39 PM UTC+1 WETH wrote:

> For sale is a large olive colored Rivendell Saddlesack.  It is an older 
> model with a metal tag showing serial number 101.  I purchased the bag used 
> a few years ago off this list and never used it. It appears to have been 
> only scarcely used by the previous owner.  Please see the photos for 
> condition: https://erlhouston.smugmug.com/Portfolio/For-Sale-Saddlesack
>
> $150 for local pick-up in the Washington, DC area or $170 shipped. PayPal.
>
> Thanks,
> Erl Houston
> Kensington, MD
>

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Re: [RBW] IGHs [segue from "My Frank Jones Sr is finally where I want it."

[Patrick Moore]

A good builder can turn a description of you riding experience into a
frame, though I emphasize "good builder," and one who is willing to
accommodate your preferences. As to "copying," no builder is entirely self
taught; Grant borrowed from others too, and discs and IGH are certainly
differentiating factors.

I'm not urging, just suggesting a custom. That's how I solved a number of
bicycle conundrums myself.

Patrick "5 customs to date" Moore

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 11:53 AM Jay Lonner  wrote:

> No doubt a custom is the way to go, but I’m frankly not conversant enough
> in bicycle geometry to approach a framebuilder and articulate my desires.
> I’ve owned an XO-1, Rambouillet, and Hunq over the years (still have the
> Hunq) and would like to check out this latest generation of long wheelbase
> Rivs. Part of what I like about Rivendell is that I trust Grant to do the
> math and come up with bikes that I enjoy riding. And it just seems cheesy
> to go to a framebuilder and say “make me a Gus ripoff but with Rohloff
> dropouts and disc tabs.”
>
> Stepping back, it seems like the writing is on the wall for front
> derailleurs. And I agree with Grant that getting caught up in the Shimano
> arms race of ever newer, shinier tech is just another form of planned
> obsolescence (my phrasing, Grant would no doubt put it differently). The
> Rohloff is a interesting lateral move with a lot of inherent advantages,
> hence my interest. Having said that, my Bike Friday is still fairly new to
> me, so I’m happy to explore its capabilities while the market evolves.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Dec 30, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
> Speaking of IGHs generally and Rohloffs particularly -- and remaining
> within RBWlist canons for relevance, since we're talking about using these
> with Rivendell frames:
>
> Has anyone used or heard first-hand particulars about the Kindernay hub?
>
> Me, at this point I'm not interested in buying either Rolhoff or
> Kindernay, only weird old SAs, but I *am* very interested generally in
> IHG technology. (I think it one area where tech advance could serve
> cyclists, and not only urban utility cyclists, very well. Closer ratios
> with sufficient range would be a great blessing.)
>
> Jay, have you thought of a custom frame for Riv-like geometry with IGH and
> discs? I know that in general a custom can accommodate odd specifications,
> per my 2 Matthewses (60+ mm tires + 80 mm fenders and sub 160 mm Q; 114 mm
> OL hub with 42 mm tires and fenders and sub 150 mm Q; not to mention all
> sorts of weird braze ons).
>
> Patrick "AM, TF, TC" Moore
>
> On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 12:55:48 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
> >
> > At the risk of derailing the topic (pun semi-intended) the lack of IGH
> support on Rivs has become an issue for me. I had a Gus in my cart when
> they went on sale recently - my size, my color - but ultimately didn’t go
> through with it because I really like the Rohloff that I have on my Bike
> Friday. I know it’s possible to kludge it, but I’d prefer to have a bike
> that has the proper dropouts and brazeons to begin with. Anybody know of a
> maker who offers a frame with Hillibike features that’s designed to
> accommodate an IGH and disc brakes? The Tumbleweed Prospector and Surly
> Ogre come close but don’t have the long wheelbase. Riv’s designs are
> influential so I suppose it’s only a matter of time…
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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie Chainstay Width

[Paul Clifton]

Thanks Ed. That's enough info for me to take a chance on this setup.

I can't think of any reason the chainstays on the medium would be any 
wider, but even if they are wider, I doubt they're 17mm wider.

Cheer,
Paul in AR

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 2:00:27 AM UTC-6 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Small GBW with 170mm Silver cranks which measure out to ~185mm 
> center-to-end on the crank arm. I took a measurement of the chain stay 
> width at the longest point of the crank arm that came out to ~120mm.
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:13:38 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> Awesome. Thanks Ed!
>> Outer width of the chainstays. Crank arms are 172.5.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 8:06:53 PM UTC-6 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul - wanted to give you a measurement but need to know where 
>>> specifically along the chainstay are you looking for the width, i.e., how 
>>> far back from the bottom bracket shell? Also, are you looking for the inner 
>>> width or the outer width?
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 5:13:16 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
 Can anyone tell me the outside-to-outside chainstay width on a 
 Gus/Susie for crank clearance purposes?

 I emailed Riv but haven't heard back, and I could use an answer sooner 
 rather than later, since there's an item on eBay that I might need to snag 
 ...

 I'm specifically wondering if the White Industries A30 crankset (R30 
 arms with M30 73mm spindle) will work. That ends up with inner arm to arm 
 measurement of 137mm. I have the arms and would like to just buy a 73mm 
 spindle. The narrower Q would probably be a small bonus. But that seems 
 kinda narrow for a bike the fits 2.8" tires.

 Thanks!

 Paul in AR

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Large Susie

[Ryan Frahm]

I was going to cancel mine for the one you picked up but I didn’t hear back 
from them in time to make sure I could cancel! Enjoy it and post some pics 
when you get it built!

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 3:29:52 PM UTC-8 antonio...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Ha that was me! I cancelled my L Dark Gold last week to pick up the Orange 
> one that was on sale here. It's been up for almost a week now I just don't 
> think anyone checked after they sold out...
>
> On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 11:11:40 AM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I noticed it last night, as well as DG and LO in XL still available.
>>
>> Get 'em while you can folks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 10:32:29 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone noticed the large Dark Gold Susie that is back on the Riv 
>>> site for sale? As fast as they went it seems crazy it hasn’t sold unless 
>>> nobody has checked! Already got mine :)
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Large Saddlesack - olive color

[WETH]

For sale is a large olive colored Rivendell Saddlesack.  It is an older 
model with a metal tag showing serial number 101.  I purchased the bag used 
a few years ago off this list and never used it. It appears to have been 
only scarcely used by the previous owner.  Please see the photos for 
condition: https://erlhouston.smugmug.com/Portfolio/For-Sale-Saddlesack

$150 for local pick-up in the Washington, DC area or $170 shipped. PayPal.

Thanks,
Erl Houston
Kensington, MD

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[RBW] Re: Brass Bits?

[Ryan]

Nice colour...that is the colour of my mixte...looks good with brass bits. 
Go for it. That's a very elegant frame. I like the simplicity of the lugs. 

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 9:51:31 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:

> Monebikes and Ocean Air Cycles come to mind.  Funny you should mention  
> this.  I've been trying to decide what color to repaint my beat-up 
> quiclbeam, and think I decided on this.  I'm not sure if it's the brass 
> that makes it look so good though, and hadn't considered it until now.
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 10:14:07 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> Yes, absolutely. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 12:07:28 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The more important message regarding Blue Lug and other "distant" online 
>>> sellers, is to remind yourself to add all the fun little bits whenever you 
>>> are buying the bigger bits.  Absolutely every time I order something from 
>>> Rivendell, I try hard to remind myself what tiny things that may have 
>>> caught my eye: silver shifter plastic washers, brass ferrules, a roll of 
>>> newbaums, a hillibike sticker, etc.  Blue Lug has TONS of really great 
>>> stuff, just remember to add brass bits next time it's worth the effort.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 9:01:14 AM UTC-8 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
 I love the look of the brass dust crank cap on Antonio's Susie build 
 , which got me 
 searching for where to source it. I see Velo Orange used to stock these 
 but 
 are currently sold out. And I know Blue Lug 
  has them 
 in stock but it seems kinda crazy to order such a small part from Japan. 

 Does anyone know of other sources? What other similar brass bits 
 elevate a bike?




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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it should be 
a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, admittedly. Did 
anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed Riv to do such 
wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with the Rosco models? 
They are always such careful color choosers but this time they really went 
for it. Fun!

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should ride."  
> To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>
>> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
>> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 
>>
>> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and you're 
>>> there. I dig it! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
 both look excellent!
 Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie Chainstay Width

[Ed Carolipio]

Small GBW with 170mm Silver cranks which measure out to ~185mm 
center-to-end on the crank arm. I took a measurement of the chain stay 
width at the longest point of the crank arm that came out to ~120mm.

--Ed C.

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:13:38 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Awesome. Thanks Ed!
> Outer width of the chainstays. Crank arms are 172.5.
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 8:06:53 PM UTC-6 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul - wanted to give you a measurement but need to know where 
>> specifically along the chainstay are you looking for the width, i.e., how 
>> far back from the bottom bracket shell? Also, are you looking for the inner 
>> width or the outer width?
>>
>> --Ed C.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 5:13:16 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone tell me the outside-to-outside chainstay width on a Gus/Susie 
>>> for crank clearance purposes?
>>>
>>> I emailed Riv but haven't heard back, and I could use an answer sooner 
>>> rather than later, since there's an item on eBay that I might need to snag 
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I'm specifically wondering if the White Industries A30 crankset (R30 
>>> arms with M30 73mm spindle) will work. That ends up with inner arm to arm 
>>> measurement of 137mm. I have the arms and would like to just buy a 73mm 
>>> spindle. The narrower Q would probably be a small bonus. But that seems 
>>> kinda narrow for a bike the fits 2.8" tires.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
>>

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