[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA pants Large Grey/Blue

[Joe Bernard]

SOLD

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 5:57:50 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Good shape, I seem to have settled on sweat pants as my "too cold for 
> shorts" gear so these are headed out the door. PM for pics and I'll try to 
> get some that don't show the grey as faded but it never works, it's a dark 
> grey and my phone insists on trying to brighten it! 
> $60 shipped
>  
> Joe Bernard 
> joeremi62 gmail com
>

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[RBW] FS: MUSA pants Large Grey/Blue

[Joe Bernard]

Good shape, I seem to have settled on sweat pants as my "too cold for 
shorts" gear so these are headed out the door. PM for pics and I'll try to 
get some that don't show the grey as faded but it never works, it's a dark 
grey and my phone insists on trying to brighten it! 
$60 shipped
 
Joe Bernard 
joeremi62 gmail com

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[RBW] FS: Bar End Shifters and Shimano 600 HS

[Michael Ullmer]

Cross posting from the i-bob list:

More parts from the bin. I found some mates for some orphan shifters I had 
in a previous post and did some drivetrain swapping. Prices are net to me. 
I use Pirateship for shipping which has been very reasonable.

1) Suntour Barcons - $40

2) 9sp Shimano Bar Ends - $50
--Shows some cosmetic wear, all the clicks are there. Can also be run 
friction

3) 10s Shimano Bar Ends - SL-BS78 - $60
--There are the version that can be run friction or 10 speed

4) 10s Shimano Bar Ends - SL-BS79 (SIS only) - $50
--These show some wear, but all the clicks are there. SIS only, no friction 
option.

5) Shimano 600 HP-6207 1" HS - $50

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/zQ2cQt27DKmfXhgc9

Mike in Minneapolis who's anxiously awaiting delivery of his Trek 640 from 
Prairie Crow Bikeworks that will have loads of new braze-ons, re-spaced to 
130, and 650b canti-studs. More to come on that later.

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[RBW] Re: REVISED WTB MUSA Atlantis 59 (650B) or Hunqapillar 56 (650B)

[dougP]

Bob:

If you prefer smaller wheels, have you considered a 56cm Toyo Atlantis? 
They used 26" wheels.  I'm 5'10" & have a 58cm. I've also comfortably 
ridden a 56. According to Rivendell's sizing chart, at my height & PBH 
(84-85), I'm right on the cusp for either size. You can always make a bike 
slightly bigger with stems & seat posts if it feels slightly small.

dougP

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:42:28 AM UTC-8 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have been reminded recently of my preference for smaller wheels in many 
> situations, so I'm revising my query of a dozen days ago.
>
> Still curious to know if anyone here has a 59 cm 650B Atlantis 
> (Waterford-built, as in 2016 RBW geometry charts). As an alternative, I'd 
> also be interested in a 56 cm 650B Hunqapillar of similar vintage.
>
> If you have one of these that you'd like to move, please contact me 
> off-list. Thank you.
>
> --
> Bob
>
> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 12:06:03 PM UTC-7 Bob wrote:
>
>> Happy Friday the 13th.
>>
>> You have been holding on to your Waterford-made Atlantis, thinking you 
>> might one day sell it. I have been lamenting my failure to buy one for 
>> fifteen years. Shall we make a deal?
>>
>> I'm looking for a 59 cm 650B Atlantis (as listed in the ca. 2016 RBW 
>> geometry chart). I'd prefer a complete bike, but a frameset or rolling 
>> chassis would work too.
>>
>> If no one has a 59 they're willing to sell (or has one at all; I don't 
>> think I've ever seen one posted here), then I would also be interested in a 
>> 58 (700C) Atlantis.
>>
>> Answers to some anticipated questions:
>>
>>- Yes, the newly-re-available Crust Nor'Easter would function 
>>similarly. I want an Atlantis, though, to redress various grievances 
>>(mostly against myself).
>>- No, I'm not interested in a newer MIT Atlantis. For the intended 
>>uses I prefer a more traditional touring-bike chainstay length and 
>>downtube-shifter bosses.
>>- No, I'd rather have Waterford model than a Toyo. From what I've 
>>seen, the Toyos had neither a third set of bottle-cage bosses under the 
>>downtube nor lowrider bosses on the fork legs, both of which I use.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Bob
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: CyclingSavvy Zoom presentation

[Richard Rose]

This begs the question; why is that sweet Sendero going to a storage unit?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 25, 2023, at 3:49 PM, Doug H.  wrote:Pam,This is fantastic. I am sure many folks rode bicycles as children and young adults, then stopped riding. Your video on your site speaks to this! All they need is a little training and confidence to get back on a bike.DougOn Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 2:28:10 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:For all those curious about CyclingSavvy, I've added a classroom only option which is done via Zoom so anyone can participate.  I'll post the link at the end.  Other than my Riv Betty Foy, it's the one thing I use everyday.  CyclingSavvy teaches you how to mitigate risks and teaches you how to be visible, relevant and predictable.  If you're unsure if you really want to register, send me an email.  I'll send you a link so you can listen in for the first hour to see if you want to stick around for the rest.  And if you ever want to come to Charlotte, NC for the on bike sessions, I'll loan you a Betty Foy or Cheviot.  Riding your bike should be fun and this may help take some of the fear out of some of your rides.  CyclingSavvy can take you from fear to freedom.https://cyclingsavvy.org/organizer/pamela-murray-2/Picture from the other day when I helped a friend move his Chumba Sendero TI mtb to his storage unit.  



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[RBW] Re: CyclingSavvy Zoom presentation

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Yes, and a lot of the country can’t be out riding this time of year so why 
not get cozy under a quilt, drink something hot and take part in Pam’s 
presentation? If you can’t be out riding this is a good thing to do 
instead. 

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 3:49:37 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> Pam,
> This is fantastic. I am sure many folks rode bicycles as children and 
> young adults, then stopped riding. Your video on your site speaks to this! 
> All they need is a little training and confidence to get back on a bike.
> Doug
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 2:28:10 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> For all those curious about CyclingSavvy, I've added a classroom only 
>> option which is done via Zoom so anyone can participate.  I'll post the 
>> link at the end. 
>>
>>  Other than my Riv Betty Foy, it's the one thing I use everyday.  
>> CyclingSavvy teaches you how to mitigate risks and teaches you how to be 
>> visible, relevant and predictable.  
>>
>> If you're unsure if you really want to register, send me an email.  I'll 
>> send you a link so you can listen in for the first hour to see if you want 
>> to stick around for the rest.  And if you ever want to come to Charlotte, 
>> NC for the on bike sessions, I'll loan you a Betty Foy or Cheviot.  Riding 
>> your bike should be fun and this may help take some of the fear out of some 
>> of your rides.  CyclingSavvy can take you from fear to freedom.
>>
>> https://cyclingsavvy.org/organizer/pamela-murray-2/
>>
>> Picture from the other day when I helped a friend move his Chumba Sendero 
>> TI mtb to his storage unit.  [image: chumba.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[David Pulsipher]

beautiful work Eric - thank you for sharing with us!

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 4:06:27 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>
> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>
> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>
> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>
> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>
> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
> which I shaped and finished. 
>
> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>
> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>
> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed them: 
> Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>
> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
> • Kasai 32H front hub
> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
> • Busch + Müller light mount
> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
> • Suntour Superbe levers
> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
> • MKS XC-III pedals
> • Suntour AR front derailer
> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
> • Brooks Conquest saddle
> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
> • Sim Works x Hoshi
> • M5 brass socket head screws
> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>
> Larger pictures here: 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks for lookin'! 
>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Ted, James and John. 

Paul, I'd be curious to see any pics of the finish on the Schwinn. 

The 614 looks fun, Reynolds tubes there? Seems like you fit a decent amount 
of rubber, too. 

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 1:27:42 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
> Hi Eric,
>
> I also enjoyed seeing your new project.
>
> Nicely done!
>
> It's great to see these vintage frames brought back to the vision the 
> 'artist' has for them.
>
> You are a definitely an 'artist' at this in my view.
>
> I enjoy tinkering with a variety of vintage frames also.
>
> Even though I thoroughly enjoy my Sam Hillborne
> from time to time I get bored for another project bike and search the ads 
> for what I think is a worthy frame at a modest price
>
>
> Although seemingly not as popular as the Bridgestone MB series I picked up 
> a 1990 CB Zip some months back and built it back up to my preferences.
>
> It's a fun bike.
> Currently it's sporting Rat Traps although that rear one is a very tight 
> fit.
>
> On the raw finish front,
>  a couple years back I stripped down to bare metal an early 90s Schwinn 
> High Plains mtb
> and built it back up.
>
> I rode it for a while, maybe a year, and then transfered parts over to 
> another bike.
>
> It's still hanging in my garage.
> I soaked it down ever few months with WD 40 or a cheap knock off and 
> surprisingly it stayed mostly rust free.
>
> I should check the current state of it.
>
> I looked into several metal stain products but never applied any to it.
>
> The look of your MB2 is certainly appealing.
>
> My recent fun build a couple weeks back is this 1982 Trek 614. I love how 
> it rides.
>
> Safe riding on your new build and thanks for sharing it with the list.
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: CyclingSavvy Zoom presentation

[Doug H.]

Pam,
This is fantastic. I am sure many folks rode bicycles as children and young 
adults, then stopped riding. Your video on your site speaks to this! All 
they need is a little training and confidence to get back on a bike.
Doug

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 2:28:10 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> For all those curious about CyclingSavvy, I've added a classroom only 
> option which is done via Zoom so anyone can participate.  I'll post the 
> link at the end. 
>
>  Other than my Riv Betty Foy, it's the one thing I use everyday.  
> CyclingSavvy teaches you how to mitigate risks and teaches you how to be 
> visible, relevant and predictable.  
>
> If you're unsure if you really want to register, send me an email.  I'll 
> send you a link so you can listen in for the first hour to see if you want 
> to stick around for the rest.  And if you ever want to come to Charlotte, 
> NC for the on bike sessions, I'll loan you a Betty Foy or Cheviot.  Riding 
> your bike should be fun and this may help take some of the fear out of some 
> of your rides.  CyclingSavvy can take you from fear to freedom.
>
> https://cyclingsavvy.org/organizer/pamela-murray-2/
>
> Picture from the other day when I helped a friend move his Chumba Sendero 
> TI mtb to his storage unit.  [image: chumba.jpg]
>

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[RBW] CyclingSavvy Zoom presentation

[Pam Bikes]

For all those curious about CyclingSavvy, I've added a classroom only 
option which is done via Zoom so anyone can participate.  I'll post the 
link at the end. 

 Other than my Riv Betty Foy, it's the one thing I use everyday.  
CyclingSavvy teaches you how to mitigate risks and teaches you how to be 
visible, relevant and predictable.  

If you're unsure if you really want to register, send me an email.  I'll 
send you a link so you can listen in for the first hour to see if you want 
to stick around for the rest.  And if you ever want to come to Charlotte, 
NC for the on bike sessions, I'll loan you a Betty Foy or Cheviot.  Riding 
your bike should be fun and this may help take some of the fear out of some 
of your rides.  CyclingSavvy can take you from fear to freedom.

https://cyclingsavvy.org/organizer/pamela-murray-2/

Picture from the other day when I helped a friend move his Chumba Sendero 
TI mtb to his storage unit.  [image: chumba.jpg]

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Re: [RBW] Lambda Add-ons

[Garth]

The wings ought to work just fine on the non-monarch models as the only 
difference, as far as I'm aware, is the addition of the pins from the 
factory rather than diy. The construction of the pedal appears the same, 
and it would be silly to change it. 

I never gave these a second though as-is because they're very narrow, not 
for large feet with shoe soles that are 4-3/4" wide. I'm curious what the 
overall width and length of the platform with the wings installed is, and 
so I'll have to Riv to find that out. I mean, it would make too much sense 
to simply measure it and post it on the sales page sigh . laughter 
..but that all makes sense . nonsense will never make sense. 


On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 12:02:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
i'm a little behind on my riv news, can anyone confirm if these will fit 
the grip king/lamda, non-monarch pedals too?

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Re: [RBW] Lambda Add-ons

[Bill Lindsay]

Related story from way back when:  I made my own and made a youtube about 
it.  This was back in 2011, it looks like.  Here is the 
link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo0YlOqqISs

My late father made some tooling for a batch-fabrication setup and we made 
and sold ~10 sets.  That may have been in 2013 or so.  I inherited that 
tooling after he died, but the process needed a lot of tweaking, so I ended 
up decommissioning the tooling he made.  I think it would have been a good 
job for a laser or water-jet cutting shop.  

BL in EC

On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 11:02:31 AM UTC-8 joshm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Was wondering what this would look like!
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 8:09 PM J Imler  wrote:
>
>> Wood and wings are a go. I used 30mm long bolts due to additional length.
>>
>> [image: image1 (1).jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] Lambda Add-ons

[lconley]

I have been wondering the same thing.

Laing

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 12:02:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> i'm a little behind on my riv news, can anyone confirm if these will fit 
> the grip king/lamda, non-monarch pedals too?
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 12:26:11 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>
>> Thanks for posting this pic. I didn't know that Rivendell had the Grip 
>> Monarch/King pedal wings made and in stock. Been waiting for them to mount 
>> on the Grip Kings I have. Went ahead and ordered the Silver 2 shifters and 
>> mounts while I was at it. Should be here tomorrow. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Reginald Alexis
>>
>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:02:31 PM UTC-6 joshm...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Was wondering what this would look like!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 8:09 PM J Imler  wrote:
>>>
 Wood and wings are a go. I used 30mm long bolts due to additional 
 length.

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[JohnS]

Eric and Greg,

Both are excellent builds! Well done. Any chance we'll see either of them 
featured on The Radavist, Reader's Rides???

I would like to see a frame overlay of Eric's MB-2 and my '82 Stumpjumper. 
Looks like they have very similar geometries and long wheelbases. 

JohnS

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:44:15 AM UTC-5 MoVelo wrote:

> Eric, beautiful build. looks like you had fun with that one!
>
> Greg, very nice restoration.
>
> James P
> mid-nebraska
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:45:38 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> Wow - labor of love! So much attention to detail. I love seeing people 
>> pour time and money into something with no expectation for "getting their 
>> money out of it" at the end. 
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Lambda Add-ons

[Minh]

i'm a little behind on my riv news, can anyone confirm if these will fit 
the grip king/lamda, non-monarch pedals too?

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 12:26:11 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:

> Thanks for posting this pic. I didn't know that Rivendell had the Grip 
> Monarch/King pedal wings made and in stock. Been waiting for them to mount 
> on the Grip Kings I have. Went ahead and ordered the Silver 2 shifters and 
> mounts while I was at it. Should be here tomorrow. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:02:31 PM UTC-6 joshm...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Was wondering what this would look like!
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 8:09 PM J Imler  wrote:
>>
>>> Wood and wings are a go. I used 30mm long bolts due to additional length.
>>>
>>> [image: image1 (1).jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[MoVelo]

Eric, beautiful build. looks like you had fun with that one!

Greg, very nice restoration.

James P
mid-nebraska

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:45:38 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>
> Wow - labor of love! So much attention to detail. I love seeing people 
> pour time and money into something with no expectation for "getting their 
> money out of it" at the end. 
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA  
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[RBW] Re: REVISED WTB MUSA Atlantis 59 (650B) or Hunqapillar 56 (650B)

[Bob]

I have been reminded recently of my preference for smaller wheels in many 
situations, so I'm revising my query of a dozen days ago.

Still curious to know if anyone here has a 59 cm 650B Atlantis 
(Waterford-built, as in 2016 RBW geometry charts). As an alternative, I'd 
also be interested in a 56 cm 650B Hunqapillar of similar vintage.

If you have one of these that you'd like to move, please contact me 
off-list. Thank you.

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Bob

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 12:06:03 PM UTC-7 Bob wrote:

> Happy Friday the 13th.
>
> You have been holding on to your Waterford-made Atlantis, thinking you 
> might one day sell it. I have been lamenting my failure to buy one for 
> fifteen years. Shall we make a deal?
>
> I'm looking for a 59 cm 650B Atlantis (as listed in the ca. 2016 RBW 
> geometry chart). I'd prefer a complete bike, but a frameset or rolling 
> chassis would work too.
>
> If no one has a 59 they're willing to sell (or has one at all; I don't 
> think I've ever seen one posted here), then I would also be interested in a 
> 58 (700C) Atlantis.
>
> Answers to some anticipated questions:
>
>- Yes, the newly-re-available Crust Nor'Easter would function 
>similarly. I want an Atlantis, though, to redress various grievances 
>(mostly against myself).
>- No, I'm not interested in a newer MIT Atlantis. For the intended 
>uses I prefer a more traditional touring-bike chainstay length and 
>downtube-shifter bosses.
>- No, I'd rather have Waterford model than a Toyo. From what I've 
>seen, the Toyos had neither a third set of bottle-cage bosses under the 
>downtube nor lowrider bosses on the fork legs, both of which I use.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Bob
>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Ted Durant]

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have a 
full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg

Wow - labor of love! So much attention to detail. I love seeing people pour 
time and money into something with no expectation for "getting their money 
out of it" at the end. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Eric Marth]

I've never ridden one of these frames but olde Tall Paul brought one along 
for our overnighter back in the fall. 

The Blue Lug galleries are always a great place to draw inspiration, such 
clean and well-appointed bikes and their Rivendell builds are some of the 
best around!

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:21:26 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gorgeous Gus build, Ronald! You can definitely see the Blue Lug influence! 
> Your rig looks very comfortable and practical. I love it.
> My Gus is my first Rivendell as well... welcome to the club!
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 1:32 PM Ronald Halili  wrote:
>
>> First time Riv owner here sharing pics of my Gus build. I had lots of 
>> inspiration from the Blue Lug website 
>> . I have only rode 
>> it a few miles though and still trying to get the squeal out of the brakes. 
>> So far so fun!
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nWnCevTy8pV3AKNZ7
>> [image: IMG_3291.JPG]
>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:59:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Richard, that is a fine and lovely bicycle. Enjoy! 
>>>
>>> Joe "I want one" Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You all are right. I just got my wheels / tires and got my first good 
 look at this rig in person. The bb is much higher than I anticipated - 
 within 1/2 centimeter of my full suspension MTB (for sale:)).
 This beast should be a hoot.
 [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 10, 2023, at 9:12 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:

 I run a 172 on my Susie and it is plenty high with the 2.5” for some 
 pretty chunky terrain. I have a 170 on my Clem with 2” and it is about an 
 inch lower. These bikes are so long that I understand wanting a bit more 
 clearance but if a 170 is comfortable I think the bike is high enough to 
 pedal through anything these bikes can pedal through. I’m still getting 
 used to the Susie as a mountain bike really. Chunky climbs are tough for 
 me 
 because if I get off the seat at all, instant loss of traction. Pedal 
 strikes hasn’t been an issue at all though. 



 On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:58:06 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Fair point(s). As you can imagine, the full suspension bike has a 
> pretty high bb, though not as high as current comparable bikes. I rarely 
> experienced pedal strokes even pedaling through stuff that at my age I 
> probably should not be doing!:)
> I just looked at available solutions & thought it might be beneficial 
> to shorten the cranks on the Gus to approximate the clearance I enjoyed 
> on 
> the suspension bike. To do so would require a 550mm crank arm.
> To be honest, I had one particular & disconcerting pedal strike riding 
> the Clem that really got my attention. This was a very familiar sweeping 
> turn but off camber section that I always pedal through. The pedal dug 
> into 
> the uphill side of the bank & I nearly crashed. It was just so 
> unexpected. 
> I’ve accepted the notion that I may have to ride a bit slower & less 
> aggressive than I am used to. But to the degree that I can minimize these 
> things with the right choice now seems smart.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 8:01 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I understand your intent to avoid crank or pedal contact, but 
> personally I wouldn’t base my crank length on the potential for pedal 
> strikes on rocks and roots. In this case, I would fall into the camp of 
> being conscious of the terrain, refining your technique, and being 
> mindful 
> of your own personal skill level. If you’re getting lots of strikes with 
> say, a 170mm or 165mm crank, I wouldn’t be confident that going even 
> shorter than that is going to necessarily solve your issue.
>
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 7:45 AM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
> Legit question. I am moving from a full suspension trail bike to the 
> Gus. I have ridden my Clem (27.5 x 2.25) with 173mm cranks and have been 
> reminded of how alarming pedal strokes can be! But, I really enjoy the 
> trail experience on the Clem otherwise. I realize the Gus has a slightly 
> higher BB than the Clem & the Gus is 29 x 2.6. So yes, I am trying to be 
> mitigate possible problems. I like the Silver crank on the Clem but I 
> will 
> likely use a 165mm Crank on the Gus. But, I am watching with keen 
> interest 
> the increasing availability of even shorter cranks.
> And yes, I know technique comes into play here, and I am looking 
> forward to refining mine.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 10, 2023, at 12:01 AM, iamkeith  wrote:
>
> 
>
> On Monday, January 9, 

[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Greg — The house paint on your MB-2 reminds me of an MB-3 I picked up at 
the end of 2021. Mine was in much worse shape overall. And I paid too much 
for it. The tires wouldn't hold air, the brakes and shifters didn't work, 
chain was rusted and, as I later found out, the steerer tube was bent and 
the fork crown was *twisted*. There was silver spray paint on the 
handlebars, brake levers and overspray on the head tube. There was black 
spray paint on the rear rack and overspray on the rear cable hanger. What a 
mess. 

Yours looks great in both iterations. Nice job blasting it and on the 
repaint. It looks great with all the clean and vintage parts and I'm sure 
it's tons of fun to ride. How did you get all that stack in the headset? On 
the '85s I've worked on there is room for a super low stack headset and 
zero spacers. 

Stephen — Thanks for checking it out, that was definitely part of the build 
I wanted to share with people as I'd never seen it done myself. Working on 
the steel wall sounds fun, I was thinking a little bit about Richard 
Serra's sculptures when I was coming up with the patina colors I wanted. 

The ride is good so far and feels different than my other bikes. Drops, 
smaller frame, longer wheelbase and lower trail than my Hillborne make it 
feel planted, nice on the descents, more reactive up front and it sometimes 
feels like I can lay down more power. I'm getting used to the shapes of the 
brake levers, the short ramps on the new bars and shifting (every 
mech/shifter combo is a little different). I still need to take it out for 
a long ride. 

Enjoy your next build! 
On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:54:16 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> Eric! Done it again, looks great! 
>
> I really dug seeing your process with patina-ing the steel and brass bits. 
> Reminds of a residential construction project I worked on that had a steel 
> retaining wall that was treated (maybe with a similar acid wash.. not sure) 
> to accelerate the rusting/patina. It turned a really nice purple. The 
> intentional metal oxidation plus the thoughtfulness/cleanness of the build 
> creates a really beautiful dynamic. I agree silver parts just look right on 
> this bike.
>
> How are you liking it and the ride so far? How does it compare to your 
> hillborne and appaloosa? Planning to take it on some overnighters? Anything 
> you wish you had done differently?
>
> Definitely giving me the bug to do another bike build myself... hopefully 
> sometime soon.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stephen
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:02:55 PM UTC-5 Greg Simmons wrote:
>
>> Eric, 
>>
>> Very nicely done! Provides a great example of the vast continuum of 
>> choices available when you approach a build. I really need to make the leap 
>> to a generator hub; the lighting looks great also! This one especially 
>> spoke to me, as I found an MB/2 some years back that eventually also became 
>> a project (In 1988, it was MB/2, not MB-2, strangely enough). It's been my 
>> daily commuter for  six years come February. Where did those 6 years 
>> go? *Tempus fugit, vita brevis, ars longa,* all that. Not that it is 
>> anything special, but if you wanted to compare to your '85, here's an album 
>> link that I hope will work and not make a mess: 1988 Bridgestone MB/2 
>> 
>>
>> Thanks for sharing, much enjoyed the video (and the earlier ones)!
>>
>> Greg Simmons
>> Boone, NC
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
>>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
>>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork 
>>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to 
>>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>>
>>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>>
>>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>>
>>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB2 09 SM